Brita Horn, Colorado GOP Chairwoman joins Sheriff Steve Reams live in-studio with the latest on her transition into the leadership position for state Republicans.
Fremont County Sheriff Allen Cooper details a recent ammunition bust in which the charged parties have been turned over to ICE.
Patrick Davis is working on a "stop the wolves" petition initiative looking to undo the previous reintroduction of wolves voted in by Coloradans. He tells listeners how they can join up in the cause.
Fremont County Sheriff Allen Cooper details a recent ammunition bust in which the charged parties have been turned over to ICE.
Patrick Davis is working on a "stop the wolves" petition initiative looking to undo the previous reintroduction of wolves voted in by Coloradans. He tells listeners how they can join up in the cause.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome back to the Dan Capas Show. Look well Canny
Sheriff Steve Reims setting in as the guest host. We've
got a lot coming up in this next hour. I've
got Britta Horn in the studio. She'll be on an
open mic here in just a little bit and we'll
have a lot of questions for But in the meantime,
we're gonna kind of jump away from our regularly scheduled
program here in just a few seconds, We've got a
man named Patrick Davis. It's going to be coming on
(00:36):
to talk about the wolf initiative in Colorado and kind
of the plan to try to stop that this thing
that we voted in a few years ago for wolf reintroduction,
as we're seeing a lot of cattle depredation and other
issues in the mountain areas where these wolves have been reintroduced.
But before we get Patrick on, here a couple of
texts that came in said Sheriff Rames, and Gabe Evans
(00:57):
was on. He talked about the Constitution bringing the supreme
law of the life, why doesn't that apply when it
comes to gun rights and in states such as Colorado
and pushing back on these ridiculous bills. I agree. I
think there's a there's a point in time where we're
gonna have to say these bills are unconstitutional and how
do we stop this and undo the madness that's that's
hit our state? Another one here, that's just pretty funny.
(01:19):
Any chance we can replace these progressive judges with just
using AI. Let's let something smarter take over. I don't
know who sent that in, but you know there is
there is good use for AI technology. That being said,
you know, in the state of Colorado. In the state
of Colorado, we we agreed as a state. I didn't
(01:40):
vote for this initiative, but there was this movement to
push the reintroduction of wolves into this state, and I think,
you know, there's a lot of money behind the pro effort,
and a lot of people voted thinking, oh, this is
just this is a feel good project and it hasn't
turned out to be that way. I got a chance
to hear this gentleman this morning. His name's Patrick David.
(02:00):
He's helping to coordinate an issue or an initiative to
remove wolves or stop the reintroduction of wolves in the
state of Colorado. Patrick, you're on the line with us.
How are you doing this afternoon?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Hey, Steve, thanks for the opportunity. I'm doing great. Thanks
you bet.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We're going to have just a short segment here, so
we'll try to give the elevator speech here. But Patrick,
can you kind of explain to the listeners what your
effort is and how they can get involved if they
choose to do so.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Ker, the most important thing your listeners need to know
is Smartwolfpolicyco dot com. Smartwolfpolicyco dot com. It's where you
can sign up to either sign our petition or circulate
the petition and get involved with this. This initiative will
be on the twenty twenty sixth ballot to put an
(02:46):
end to the gray wolf reintroduction in Colorado, which has
been an unmitigated failure for the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Absolutely, I think a lot of people would agree with you.
So it doesn't it doesn't undo any It just stops
the process. Right, There's just no more wolves being introduced
after twenty twenty six, Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
It stops the process. Any wolves that are either either
walk in on their own or have been flown in
from British Columbia or Oregon, they're still going to be
on the ground here and Parks and Wildlife and CPW
are going to continue to manage them just like they
always have and will continue to do in the future.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And we'll use managing air quotes just to let the
callers know kind of the status as it is now.
This morning you explain there's there's thirty five wolves that
have been reintroduced to the state of Colorado, but we
don't know what the breeding population has turned that into
at this time. Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Well, at a meeting I had after our meeting this morning, Steve,
I learned that CPW is collaring the wolves that are
being born right now, So those wolves are it's breeding
season for the wolves.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, Well, I guess that number could go up or
you know, we'll see where it turns out. But again
say that website if voters want to get involved in
helping your initiative artwolfpolicyco dot com. All right, Patrick, thanks
for coming on with us. I know that was a
short segment, but any any way that you can get
your information out is probably good. And again, thanks for
(04:10):
being on with us on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Thanks Steve.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
All right, so we'll transition from that to another person
who lives up in the mountains. She's not a wolf,
but she's she's been through quite a battle here lately.
We got Bretta Horn in studio. She was recently elected
as the state GOP chair woman. And I often refer
to winning that seats like the dog that caught the car.
(04:34):
And I'm not calling you a dog, but when a
dog is chasing that car and they finally catch it,
it's quite an event. So Bretta pulled the mic up
to your face and and welcome yourself to the show. Brittan,
how you doing.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I'm doing great. It's a great day today. And I
do have a little bit of an agriculture cattle rancher
story if you want to hear it, a Sigo coourse story.
So yesterday my husband came home and he was so
happy because he brought home a first calf heifer and
it's calf. And it ended up being there was a
neighbor that a couple of weeks ago where was on
(05:08):
our ranch and they kind of looked for elk horns
and you know, deer horns, and there there's looking form sheds.
And he sent a picture to us and he said, hey,
I think there's some cows up in the mountain, top
of the mountain where there's all the snow, and we're like, no,
those they can't be.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
There are four black dots.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
He had a small camera, you know, picture and like
it must be moose and he's like no, So he
put a scope on his phone, right, and so he
sent another picture and it was this round picture and
there was four cows there were I'll survived the winter
up at the top of the mountain. And so it
ended up being a neighbor's three cows and then one
of our first calf, heifer and one of her cows,
(05:42):
and shows she was a little short on groceries, a
little skinny, and her calf had a little tips of
her ears were kind of burned off, you know, from
the freezing frostbite. But my goodness, I mean we had
an extra you know, cow calf pair up in the winter.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
It was mild winter, but not that mild.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Colorado Mountain story, cow survives one and survives the wolf,
the wolf population exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
So what's the chances?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, hardy cows, you're gonna that's gonna be some tough beef.
That being said, talking about tough, tough processes. So, Brenda,
you just got elected as the GOP chair woman. A
couple of mons. N I've been a two months, I think, maybe.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
A month on No, it hasn't even been a month yet.
It will be a month on the twenty next week.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And you know you won. I think it was by
thirty two votes, but correct me if I'm.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Wrong, totally wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It was twenty nine, Okay, so even less than what
I believe contentious race. I was there for the whole
day and it was a long day, several rounds of well,
I think two rounds of voting. But there was a
lot of different candidates that bowed out after that first
round and started throwing their support back and forth, and
it was close. It came down to you and former
(06:48):
state rep and former commissioner Lori saying, but you pulled
it out by I guess twenty nine votes. So you won.
Where are you at now?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Oh my goodness, it's been a whirlwind, and it's just
everything that we are promising that we're going to do,
you know, not only doing the job, you know of
electing more Republicans, growing the party and fundraising. I've been
fundraising like crazy, like a mad dog last three weeks,
but also just getting the transition done. And the transition
has gone along.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
It's it's a.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Little bit bumpier than the smooth transition we were promised,
but we're getting through it. You know, we're getting through pieces.
Some things are taking a little bit longer than others.
We've made some transitions, some changes. We've had to escalate
a little bit. Some of the issues are a little
bit more higher level of dealing, so we're going to
try to deal with more like a compliance firm from
out of state to help us get through the compliance piece.
(07:37):
Making sure because we made that promised to if we
made that promise that we were going to make sure
that we're going to show transparency because we're never going
to get the funds coming in. We're never going to
get more people wanted to get elected. Now we're you know,
get candidates. We're not going to anybody grow the party
if we don't get there, build back the trust and
we have to show everybody that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So let's get let's let's start with the basics. Are
you back in an office. You have control of the office.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
We have the office, and so the office we were
told a week before all the candidates when I mean,
we got a letter back from I've got a letter
from Dave Williams that the contractor and the lease was
going was being canceled and we had two months to
get out.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
And I was okay with that because I was.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Already on the trail for the last six months saying, hey,
we don't need this office in Greenwood Village.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It's this huge office. It was it was hollow.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
It was like a tree house for a couple of people,
but nothing was getting done out of it. And we
have a lot of storage we have to get through.
But the bigger pieces we need to do where politics are,
they're local.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
We need to have regional offices.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
So we're using the I seventeen I twenty five corridors
is the four quadrants, and we're looking for offices in
the four quadrants.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Okay, so the physical office that has been known as
the GOP headquarters will be going away, but you're looking
for new places to rent out or lease out exactly
in the future.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Okay, exactly, So we already have one is I looked
out last week with a couple of people on our
team Donnas in Colorado Springs. Actually, while we were at
Lincoln Club today, because I was speaking at linkln Club,
people were making phone calls with each other and texting
and I'm looking at a place in Denver tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Awesome. So all right, you're working on the physical plant.
You I assume you have the control over all this
social media platforms email that.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Has that transition Gjorady majority.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
So there's still a few emails that we are, like
I said, like social medias that we don't have access to.
We're trying to figure out who has access to it.
So we're kind of digging through that. We still, like
I said, of another week and a half before the
person that's been the treasure I guess from the past,
Tom Bjorglund, he's like bringing information over. We are getting it,
We're getting it to our team, but there's still.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
You know, we're hunting a pack in for a couple
of pieces, all right, So we're going to cut to
a break when we come back. I'm going to ask
you the tough question of where's the finances at So
again we got Bretta Horn here, the new GOP chairwoman
with the Colorado Colorado GOP. We're going to cut the break.
You're listening to the Dan Caplis Show here with Well
County Sheriff Steve Reams as your guest host, and we'll
have Bretta on the other side.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Welcome back to the Dan capless Show. You got Steve
Reims Well Kenny Sheriff setting in and the driver's seat
today again day three of three for me, and we're
almost halfway through the heck, we're more than halfway through
the show, almost halfway through the second hour. In the
first in the first segment of this second hour, I
introduced that we had Britta Horn in studio here. She's
(10:25):
setting to my left and she's a newly elected state
Party GOP chair woman. When we went to break, we've
been talking about a little bit of the you know,
just the hardcore takeover of the office and some of
the some of the the wranglings that you've been through.
And I said when we came back from break, I
was going to ask you a question, and that is
(10:45):
where are we at financially as a party? What are
the finances?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
So the finances are coming to fruition.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
We're finding out and so there was an FEC report
that was put out on the fifteenth by the you know,
the former team. It's like Tom Bjorglan that's still working
of the next couple of days with us, and he
had to put a report off to the FEC file.
And you can go to the FEC file and see it,
and you can see all the income and all the expenses,
and there's like a schedule or I think they call
(11:11):
it Appendix A and Appendix B. Appendix A has the
receipts and then Appendix by is the disbursements. And I
think it's really important that the you know, everybody goes
and looks at that, and goes and looks at themselves
and see how the money was spent, what was spent on,
because we'll probably have a discussion about that, but be
really be serious.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I'm being very serious about this. We're going to look at.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
It, We're going to go through the transparency of it,
but we got to move forward.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
We have work to do.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I understood. So as of right now, you don't really
have a dollar figure that you know what you can
work with.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
I think at this point, because what's being reported, and
as we're getting all the bank accounts we'll put like
I said, next week, we'll have a better handle on
it all right.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Little little trepidation there, I would assume of where this
thing's going. I mean, obviously you want to take over
a party that's in in good health and plenty of cash,
because as you've been talking, the goal of this movement
is to get Republicans elected, not to invite, but to
move forward. I've been asking our callers do you think
(12:13):
we can bring back some of these seats? Do you
think we can win the governor seat? Do you think
we can win an AG se Can we not kicking
Looper out of that Senate seat? And you, as the
state party chairwoman, you're going to be saddled with trying
to make that happen. Do you think that those are
winnable seats? And if so, what's the strategy to get there?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
I think the strategy is definitely we need to start
having messaging, really good messaging to people that matter. Because
we still had two hundred and fifty thousand Republicans that
didn't vote last November, there were active Republicans. There's three
hundred thousand independents that are right leaning independence. We need
a message to them as well. All those seats can
I We're definitely going to move the needle. I'm looking
(12:51):
at all those seats. Let's find the seats that we
definitely can win and make sure that we do. I
still think there's going to be more names coming into
the you know, to every one of those seats, and
I think someone might surprise you.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, I hope so, because right now there's no names
in some of those seats, and you know, I have
to believe some of that is just because of a
little bit of trepidation of jumping into a state wide
race knowing what kind of the history has been over
the last few cycles of the state GOP not really
being there to support some of the candidates. And I
say that very directly. We had Gabe Evans on earlier
(13:23):
in the show, and I remember getting some mailings from
him that had to go through the state of Arizona
in order to get to my mailbox because there was
there was a I guess a lack of trust in
the state GOP process. Is that trust instantly rebuilt with
you being in the seat?
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I think a little bit. I don't. I know, I
have a team.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
We have you know, we obviously won by fifty three percent,
so obviously there was enough there. You know, everybody was
there and wanted this change to happen.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
So I saw it. I felt it.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
I felt it since last year when we used to
I started running, going, we have got to change this.
And I hope my history and my background putting out fires,
you know, thinking, artical thinking, but you know, problem solving.
We're going to be able to get a lot of
these pieces done. And there's a lot of mechanism. So
you know, there's five hundred and eight people that are
part of the state's Central Committee, and that's great, and
(14:12):
all five one hundred and eight of those, no matter what,
they're going to vote Republican. I got to get him
to turn around from the tent and start shooting outside
the tent and go in and finding more, more candidates
and more voters.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
We got to get people rowing in the right direction.
I think, is what you're trying to say, Britta. I didn't
want I don't want to put you on the spot,
but we had someone that call called in. I think
I know who this person is. It's Todd from El
Paso County. He wants to he's calling in to talk
about some litigation in reference to the Colorado GOP chair race.
Are you willing to take that call? Sure?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
All right? Is this Todd Watkins?
Speaker 7 (14:44):
It just might be, yes, sir, Sheriff.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Okay, Todd. I wasn't expecting a phone call during Britta's interview,
but she said she's willing to take the call. So
what do you have in reference to the litigation that was,
I guess kind of bubbling under the surface during that
GOP chair race.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
I didn't want to take up the chairs whole time
on this, but I was hoping that Britta could give
an update on where things stand right now. There have
been some developments, and it's probably okay to speak about
a couple of them because it's starting to see a resolution.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I believe, correct me if I'm wrong. But weren't you
part of that litigation as well? Weren't you being sued
by one side? Yes? Sir, Okay, Well, Britta, do you
feel comfortable answering that question.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Sir, just to just unpack for your listeners real quickly.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
So there was a lawsuit against like I said, Todd,
a handful of us, from Christy Burton Brown KBB all
the way down to all the people that were involved
in Brighton when we were doing those other meetings, and
we were within our you know, the bylaws and two
sections to go ahead and have those meetings and conduct them.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
And so instead of what.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
I would have done if I knew that half my
party was not happy they have the group, I would
walk in that room, sit down at the table, break
bread and figure it out. Instead, the previous leadership decided
to sue us, and so then there was a TRORO
and then it got dismissed.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
All that. Thank you for doing that. I appreciate that, Sheriff.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
And then and then and then this last couple of months,
all of a sudden, we're being sued for the money
that was spent over one hundred thousand dollars to pay
for this lawsuit that was frivolous and dismissed anyway, you know.
So we've been going back and forth. So then how
do I be on one side of the lawsuit then
win the chair and be on the other side of
(16:33):
the lawsuit.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
So we went.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Ahead really quickly and had it dismissed with prejudice. But
then there ended up being this other rogue air quote
my fingers are up in air quotes investigative committee saying
that they had more authority.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
They were put together by.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
The previous administ you know, previous leadership, and they said
that they had power over all of us to to
continue the lawsuit like it could still has to go.
So you can't sue yourself with yourself by people that
you know are working for you.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I'm already confused, all right.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
So there's three reasons why it wasn't going to work,
and it's called state law, the Bye laws, and Robert's
reserve order. So and we just found out today that
if there was an order denying the intervention of this.
So the judge went ahead and said that the judge
rejected the so called air quote investigative committee and had
any authority to continue with the lawsuit. So Dave's attempt
(17:27):
to rule from the dead over a rogue committee that
answers to no one is over.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Okay. Well, so look we're about to hit a hard break.
I appreciate you coming on. I think you've got a
heck of a task ahead of you, but I'm grateful
that you were willing to step into the studio, take
a few questions here and try to get the listeners
going in the right direction. Brenda again, thanks for being
on the show. Thanks for being on with the Dan
Kapli Show with myself, well Kenny sheriff, Steve Reems setting
(17:53):
in and again.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Thank you, thank you very much. Let's do it next time.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
You bet we'll go to break and uh we'll be
back with he just shortly.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Welcome back to the Dan Capless Show with well kind
of shriff Steve Riems stilling in his guest host in
day three of three, and we just got done with
Britta Horn in studio. You know, we never have enough
time to ask all the questions you want to have ask,
but well we'll kind of follow up with that in
our last segment. I want to go to a guest
that I wasn't planning on having on. I didn't I
(18:35):
didn't know if we'd be able to get him. But
this is Alan Cooper from Fremont County. Colorado, and the
reason I want to bring Alan on. He's a sheriff
up there and here recently. You know, earlier in the week,
we were talking about illegal immigration and crime in Colorado,
and I was trying to highlight stories that kind of
crossed both paths and just doing a little we'll say
(18:57):
slicing and dison through the Google machine. I've found a
story out of Freemont County where a couple of illegals
had been arrested for transporting a bunch of ammunition. And
I just so happened to know the Fremont County sheriff,
so we thought we'd give him a call. Alan Cooper.
Are you on the line with us? I am Alan,
Thanks for being on, and kind of tell the callers
a little bit about where you're at in Fremont County.
(19:19):
I mean, is what does Fremont County encompass and then
we'll get to the story.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
Well, Freemont County is down in south central Colorado or
rural county, and Highway fifty actually bisection Mike County. Our
distinction as we have the highest concentration of prisons in
the United States. I've got over a dozen state and
federal facilities here in my jurisdiction.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Canyon City comes to mind. Yes, all right, So Alan, recently,
like I was saying, I saw this story about I
think it was your deputies that contacted a couple of
individuals on a traffic stop, and this thing kind of
unfolded into something that I don't think they were quite expecting.
Tell us what that was.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
Okay, high Way fifty, like I said, bisects Fremont County.
It's also one of the two east west thoroughfares across
our state. So we do interdiction. And I had two
investigators that were out doing interdiction stops, and so they
saw a vehicle that committed a couple of traffic violations.
(20:25):
And our practices, we pulled people over, We talk with
them a little bit, make sure everything's okay. If there's
no reason to investigate further, we cut them loose. But
if something piqued their curiosity, then we delve deeper into that.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And what was it that these folks were stopped for.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
They were stopped initially for fare to dim.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Okay, so driving a night kept the rights on driving.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
At night, failed at dim. Then when the deputies turned
around to contact them for that they quickly turned into
a gas station and didn't signal. That's the second violation.
And so they made contact with the driver and the
passenger and just engagement conversation, told them why they stopped them.
And they noticed that there were a lot of boxes
(21:14):
in this van, and they asked, you know, what's in
the boxes? What's going on? And they were very obviously
ammunition boxes, boxes of ammunition. Well, they know in the
state of Colorado, if you're hauling over a certain amount
of ammunition, then you have to be placarded. Has this material.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And that wasn't the case in this particular stop, I
guess not the case.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
They had no paperwork indicating that they were commercially able
to hauld that quantity of ammunition when they provided documentation
to the deputies. They were on a non immigration status DIVISA,
which meant that they could be legally in the country
to work and conduct business.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But that business wasn't transport transporting ammunition. I assume how
much ammunition are we talking about here, Allen.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
One hundred and eighty thousand rounds, one.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Hundred and eighty thousand rounds of what kind of ammo?
Speaker 8 (22:11):
Well, one hundred and fifty thousand rounds was three away
or seven sixty two by fifty one ball ammo? Okay,
thirty thousand rounds was seven sixty two.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
By thirty nine all right, so ak forty seven ammo? Correct? Okay?
And what was there? What was their reason for that
much that's a lot of ammo? What was their reason
for moving that much ammo? And where were they coming
from and where were they going?
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Well, they said that they had gone come to Mexico,
then went to Denver to buy a vehicle, which we're
presuming to be the vehicle they were driving, a van, yes, right,
And then they were going to go up to Salt
Lake City to buy another van for another vehicle. Okay,
which is Salt Lake City is where they actually purchased
the ammunition.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Okay, no van, but ammunition instead. And where were they
taking the ammunition? Two? And for purpose?
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Well, they weren't really certain, at least they did not
give my deputies a firm answer. And it was at
that point they made the decision to contact both ICE
and Department Homeland Security.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And where are these individuals at now and what charges
may be pending.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
Currently they're in the custody of the Department Homeland Security
their face with unlawful possession of ammunition by a non
US citizen and that's in violation of their non immigration
status fieses and for the NOE placarding of the hazards
materials on the van.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So I have to suspect that that ammunition was probably
heading or likely heading for some nefarious cause. Is that
kind of your intuition as well?
Speaker 8 (23:49):
My intuition is that they were definitely en route to
take it into Mexico.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And no idea if these guys were identified as a
particular gang affiliation or anything like that.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
I assume I don't have that information right now.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Okay, that's fair. So you know, these are trick questions.
But apparently the laws in Colorado didn't prevent them. All
these laws that we've passed about ammunition and taxing and
all that stuff, it didn't slow them down whatsoever. Sounds
like that's a rhetorical question. Alan. So having said all that,
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your deputies were they shocked by what they found where
they were they had all surprised. I mean, you know,
is this just is this pretty common? Is this routine?
Or is this definitely out of the ordinary.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
The quantity was out of the ordinary. But we've had
involvement here with cartails before. We had a pretty serious
incident last year with the Cuban cartail sure, and we
actually got involved with a fire firefight up off one
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of my county roads and I think there were totally
almost two hundred grounds expended.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Wow. So we had a gentleman on earlier today that
he's with the Federation for American Immigration Reform. His name
is Art del Quoito. He's spent quite a bit of
time with border patrol in his in his previous career,
and you know, we've kind of talked about how every
state is a border state at this point. I guess
Fremont County doesn't escape that. You have plenty of issues
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of dealing with illegal immigrants and crime where those things
cross sect. Is that correct?
Speaker 8 (25:34):
That's correct.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, you know, Alan Sheriff Cooper, I appreciate you coming on.
I know that you know, oftentimes these cases you got
to be very careful about what you say and what
you don't as this thing is still pending prosecution, whether
it's by the federal authorities or local authorities. But thanks
for sharing the information with us, and thanks for coming
on with such short notice again, I respect the work
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that you do up there in Fremont. I know that
you're not typically a a radio kind of guy, but
thanks for coming on and thanks for educating us on
this particular call.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
All right, I appreciate it, Steve, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Thanks. That was Sheriff Cooper on with us. I've known
Alan for a long time. Again, he's not a man
of a lot of words, so getting him on the
radio is kind of a kind of a stretch for him.
But he is very much by the book and believes
in doing the right thing. I'm quite certain of this
case plays out in the future. We're going to hear
a lot more about where this thing could have gone
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and where that emma was intended to intended to end up.
But glad that thing was caught. I're glad that incident
was caught, and I'm really interested to see where it
shakes out in the end. We'll cut the break, We'll
get to our last segment of day three again here
on the Dan Capless Show with Well Kenny Sheriff Steve
Raams filling.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
In and now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Welcome back to the final segment of the Dan Capless
show here on a Wednesday. You got well Kenny Sheriff
Steve Riams filling in in my last segment, and I
got to tell you it's been a blast for these
three days. It's always fun to be on the show
trying to fill Dan's shoes, which are far too big
for me to fill by any sense of the word.
But we gave it the best college try, you know.
(27:13):
In the show had quite a few guests on. Today
was definitely jam packed, but we still have time for
a couple of calls if anybody wants to call in
three oh three seven one, three eight, two five five
or text in at five seven, seven, three nine a
couple of texts here I want to get to. In
reference to chairwoman Britta Horn being on, says Steve not
answers from the GOP woman, I can't necessarily disagree. I don't.
(27:37):
I'm a little shocked at no dollar amount. That that
part kind of I struggle with. And I get it.
You know, you're you're trying to transition from one group
to the next, and maybe that dollar figure doesn't make sense.
But I know if I were handing something off to
the next person, I'd want to seal a deal and
say here's exactly what you have to go with. I
don't know if that happened or not, but they're definitely
(27:58):
in the building stage right now, and I'm I'm I'll
be cautiously optimistic. I wish it was moving a little faster.
I'd love to see the focus already being on how
do we get somebody elected instead of how do we
get an office? But sometimes you don't control those timelines
exactly why you'd want to.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
You consider too, what Britas said to afford her some
a little bit of latitude here. It could not have
been a more hostile transition from the previous regime. And
Dave Williams telling them they had to vacate the premises
of quarters here in two months here in Greenwood Village.
It's not exactly like that regime did its level best
to hand the torch off.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah. No, I don't blame her for not being in
a situation wholly on her own. I mean again, you
can only move as fast as the information that you get.
But boy it, you know, as we're talking about where
does the party go, how do you win some of
these seats? It's going to take a functioning state party
to make that happen. And again, I'll remain cautiously optimistic.
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Here's another one. Sixty sixty year plus a native of
Colorado was always voted a Republican. That being said, they're
now an unaffiliated voter because the Republican Party, both state
and federal level became ineffective. Here can your guest explain
what will change to get me to switch back? And
you know, I didn't get a chance to read this
while she was here. I think she's definitely trying to
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get her feet underneath her and trying to figure out, Okay,
what's step one of getting this thing going in the
right direction. You know, that's not a seat I would
have ever run for. Again, I I equate it to
the dog that's chasing a car and catches it and says,
oh crap, what do I do now? Bretta's got the
oh crap? What I do now? Look in some of these,
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some of these ways just because you can't do you
can't move forward with the data you don't have, You
can't move forward with the with the you know, without
having an office and some places to work from. So
give her a little bit of latitude. But proofs in
the pudding. We'll see where this thing goes in the future. Ryan,
do you do you think this thing can turn around?
Do you see the state GOP becoming strong in the
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next year? Take a can.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
But I do believe it'll take time, Sheriff. It didn't
get broken overnight, and I don't think it'll be fixed overnight. Plus,
the Democrats have an inherent built in advantage.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
They've just grown in numbers.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
I think a high percentage of those who refer to
themselves as unaffiliated are actually Democrat voters who are an
affiliated for what any of a number of reasons. But yeah,
I think it's winning hearts and minds. I think it's
going back to the text from Kimberly earlier. You know,
let's focus on the winning issues that are in our party,
are many, exactly, and just hammer those home and drive
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them past wherever a partisan line might divide them. Because
parents are going to care about their kids regardless. Business
owners are going to care about their businesses, their safety,
their security, which you've had a great hand in in
Weld County yourself as sheriff. Sure, and when illegal criminal
aliens are here and then they're mucking up the works.
I don't think that a Democratic business owner is exactly
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crazy about that either.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
No, I agree with you, but you know, you do
have to look at the hard numbers. I think Trump
lost here by hundred and fifty thousand votes, So Bretta
was saying, there was two hundred and fifty thousand Republicans
that didn't vote, So even if all of those vote,
he's still underwater by two hundred thousand. So then the
question is where do you get the unaffiliated votes or
how do you pull those over on a you know,
if you're just looking at that top line victory and
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that next top line victory is going to be the
US Senate and the governor's race here in the state
of Colorado. You know, I don't know if there'll be
a four hundred and fifty vote four hundred and fifty
thousand vote swing, but it's going to take a lot
of work to get there and the right candidate. You know,
we were talking about this at the end of the
show yesterday. I think the right candidates still exist out there.
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I'm still going to keep recruiting Dan Kaplis as a
potential to jump in that governor's race, and I'm sure
a lot of the listeners would agree with me on that.
In fact, they were wholeheartedly yesterday. So hopefully when he
gets back in this studio seat, he's going to scroll
through and read some of those text messages. I know
he gets them every day. But regardless, I think there's
a pathway back to victory. It's just not going to
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be easy. And I have never put in for the
position that Bretta put in, you know, especially in the
environment in which she ran for it. You know, I've
worked with Dave Williams in years past. I didn't necessarily
agree with the way he ran the state Party, but
you know that being said, I don't think his goal
was to completely destroy it. I think he had a
(32:20):
methodology to his madness. I just don't think a lot
of people lined up behind that methodology. And now we're
at a place where it's time to shift gears and
try something else, and Bretta Horn is the one that's
going to have to try that something else. We got
a lot of listeners out there, We got a lot
of followers out there that are definitely Republican leaning, probably
on the Republican side of the ticket, probably don't vote
anything but that, but they need a reason to get
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off their seat, and they need a candidate they can
get inspired by. Earlier in the week, we talked about,
or maybe it was one one of the previous shows,
how many different candidates were running for governor. The I
guess top four right now, and probably name order is
Greg Lopez, Mark Baisley, Scott Bottoms, and then you know,
maybe Jason Mike Sel. Outside of that, We're we're struggling
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to find some name recognition in this state. So Ryan,
unless you're going to jump in for one of these seats,
maybe a gee, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
Well, I used the Butch Cassidy and Sundance kid metaphor earlier.
If you and I were to run up for something together,
I might be cooking with gas there.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Well, hey, maybe you can be the lieutenant governor candidate.
When Dan announces to be the governor.
Speaker 9 (33:25):
I think I will I'll put this out there, and
I told him this, but I will put it out
for the listeners. If Dan were to run and I
were asked to serve as as comms director, I would probably.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Do so well that Hey, I'd love to be the
director of public safety. Yeah, let's take on the state
and figure out how to clean this mess up. I
can tell you there's a whole lot of policies that
would change when it comes to dealing with with criminals
out on the street. You give me a chance to
run some of these these state agencies.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
The Colorado version of Tom Homan'd I'd.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Be okay with that. That's a compliment. It is. It's
been a great time here in these three days. I
hope you get a chance to come back at some point.
Don't run me off too fast. But again just to
honor to set in for Dan caplis work with Ryan
Shuling as the producer Kelly when she was here a
couple of days. Again, thanks for tolerting me over this
last three days, and thanks for listening on the Dan
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome back to the Dan Capas Show. Look well Canny
Sheriff Steve Reims setting in as the guest host. We've
got a lot coming up in this next hour. I've
got Britta Horn in the studio. She'll be on an
open mic here in just a little bit and we'll
have a lot of questions for But in the meantime,
we're gonna kind of jump away from our regularly scheduled
program here in just a few seconds, We've got a
man named Patrick Davis. It's going to be coming on
(00:36):
to talk about the wolf initiative in Colorado and kind
of the plan to try to stop that this thing
that we voted in a few years ago for wolf reintroduction,
as we're seeing a lot of cattle depredation and other
issues in the mountain areas where these wolves have been reintroduced.
But before we get Patrick on, here a couple of
texts that came in said Sheriff Rames, and Gabe Evans
(00:57):
was on. He talked about the Constitution bringing the supreme
law of the life, why doesn't that apply when it
comes to gun rights and in states such as Colorado
and pushing back on these ridiculous bills. I agree. I
think there's a there's a point in time where we're
gonna have to say these bills are unconstitutional and how
do we stop this and undo the madness that's that's
hit our state? Another one here, that's just pretty funny.
(01:19):
Any chance we can replace these progressive judges with just
using AI. Let's let something smarter take over. I don't
know who sent that in, but you know there is
there is good use for AI technology. That being said,
you know, in the state of Colorado. In the state
of Colorado, we we agreed as a state. I didn't
(01:40):
vote for this initiative, but there was this movement to
push the reintroduction of wolves into this state, and I think,
you know, there's a lot of money behind the pro effort,
and a lot of people voted thinking, oh, this is
just this is a feel good project and it hasn't
turned out to be that way. I got a chance
to hear this gentleman this morning. His name's Patrick David.
(02:00):
He's helping to coordinate an issue or an initiative to
remove wolves or stop the reintroduction of wolves in the
state of Colorado. Patrick, you're on the line with us.
How are you doing this afternoon?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Hey, Steve, thanks for the opportunity. I'm doing great. Thanks
you bet.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We're going to have just a short segment here, so
we'll try to give the elevator speech here. But Patrick,
can you kind of explain to the listeners what your
effort is and how they can get involved if they
choose to do so.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Ker, the most important thing your listeners need to know
is Smartwolfpolicyco dot com. Smartwolfpolicyco dot com. It's where you
can sign up to either sign our petition or circulate
the petition and get involved with this. This initiative will
be on the twenty twenty sixth ballot to put an
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end to the gray wolf reintroduction in Colorado, which has
been an unmitigated failure for the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Absolutely, I think a lot of people would agree with you.
So it doesn't it doesn't undo any It just stops
the process. Right, There's just no more wolves being introduced
after twenty twenty six, Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
It stops the process. Any wolves that are either either
walk in on their own or have been flown in
from British Columbia or Oregon, they're still going to be
on the ground here and Parks and Wildlife and CPW
are going to continue to manage them just like they
always have and will continue to do in the future.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And we'll use managing air quotes just to let the
callers know kind of the status as it is now.
This morning you explain there's there's thirty five wolves that
have been reintroduced to the state of Colorado, but we
don't know what the breeding population has turned that into
at this time. Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Well, at a meeting I had after our meeting this morning, Steve,
I learned that CPW is collaring the wolves that are
being born right now, So those wolves are it's breeding
season for the wolves.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, Well, I guess that number could go up or
you know, we'll see where it turns out. But again
say that website if voters want to get involved in
helping your initiative artwolfpolicyco dot com. All right, Patrick, thanks
for coming on with us. I know that was a
short segment, but any any way that you can get
your information out is probably good. And again, thanks for
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being on with us on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Thanks Steve.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
All right, so we'll transition from that to another person
who lives up in the mountains. She's not a wolf,
but she's she's been through quite a battle here lately.
We got Bretta Horn in studio. She was recently elected
as the state GOP chair woman. And I often refer
to winning that seats like the dog that caught the car.
(04:34):
And I'm not calling you a dog, but when a
dog is chasing that car and they finally catch it,
it's quite an event. So Bretta pulled the mic up
to your face and and welcome yourself to the show. Brittan,
how you doing.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I'm doing great. It's a great day today. And I
do have a little bit of an agriculture cattle rancher
story if you want to hear it, a Sigo coourse story.
So yesterday my husband came home and he was so
happy because he brought home a first calf heifer and
it's calf. And it ended up being there was a
neighbor that a couple of weeks ago where was on
(05:08):
our ranch and they kind of looked for elk horns
and you know, deer horns, and there there's looking form sheds.
And he sent a picture to us and he said, hey,
I think there's some cows up in the mountain, top
of the mountain where there's all the snow, and we're like, no,
those they can't be.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
There are four black dots.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
He had a small camera, you know, picture and like
it must be moose and he's like no, So he
put a scope on his phone, right, and so he
sent another picture and it was this round picture and
there was four cows there were I'll survived the winter
up at the top of the mountain. And so it
ended up being a neighbor's three cows and then one
of our first calf, heifer and one of her cows,
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and shows she was a little short on groceries, a
little skinny, and her calf had a little tips of
her ears were kind of burned off, you know, from
the freezing frostbite. But my goodness, I mean we had
an extra you know, cow calf pair up in the winter.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
It was mild winter, but not that mild.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Colorado Mountain story, cow survives one and survives the wolf,
the wolf population exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
So what's the chances?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, hardy cows, you're gonna that's gonna be some tough beef.
That being said, talking about tough, tough processes. So, Brenda,
you just got elected as the GOP chair woman. A
couple of mons. N I've been a two months, I think, maybe.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
A month on No, it hasn't even been a month yet.
It will be a month on the twenty next week.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And you know you won. I think it was by
thirty two votes, but correct me if I'm.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Wrong, totally wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It was twenty nine, Okay, so even less than what
I believe contentious race. I was there for the whole
day and it was a long day, several rounds of well,
I think two rounds of voting. But there was a
lot of different candidates that bowed out after that first
round and started throwing their support back and forth, and
it was close. It came down to you and former
(06:48):
state rep and former commissioner Lori saying, but you pulled
it out by I guess twenty nine votes. So you won.
Where are you at now?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Oh my goodness, it's been a whirlwind, and it's just
everything that we are promising that we're going to do,
you know, not only doing the job, you know of
electing more Republicans, growing the party and fundraising. I've been
fundraising like crazy, like a mad dog last three weeks,
but also just getting the transition done. And the transition
has gone along.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
It's it's a.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Little bit bumpier than the smooth transition we were promised,
but we're getting through it. You know, we're getting through pieces.
Some things are taking a little bit longer than others.
We've made some transitions, some changes. We've had to escalate
a little bit. Some of the issues are a little
bit more higher level of dealing, so we're going to
try to deal with more like a compliance firm from
out of state to help us get through the compliance piece.
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Making sure because we made that promised to if we
made that promise that we were going to make sure
that we're going to show transparency because we're never going
to get the funds coming in. We're never going to
get more people wanted to get elected. Now we're you know,
get candidates. We're not going to anybody grow the party
if we don't get there, build back the trust and
we have to show everybody that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So let's get let's let's start with the basics. Are
you back in an office. You have control of the office.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
We have the office, and so the office we were
told a week before all the candidates when I mean,
we got a letter back from I've got a letter
from Dave Williams that the contractor and the lease was
going was being canceled and we had two months to
get out.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
And I was okay with that because I was.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Already on the trail for the last six months saying, hey,
we don't need this office in Greenwood Village.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It's this huge office. It was it was hollow.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
It was like a tree house for a couple of people,
but nothing was getting done out of it. And we
have a lot of storage we have to get through.
But the bigger pieces we need to do where politics are,
they're local.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
We need to have regional offices.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
So we're using the I seventeen I twenty five corridors
is the four quadrants, and we're looking for offices in
the four quadrants.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Okay, so the physical office that has been known as
the GOP headquarters will be going away, but you're looking
for new places to rent out or lease out exactly
in the future.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Okay, exactly, So we already have one is I looked
out last week with a couple of people on our
team Donnas in Colorado Springs. Actually, while we were at
Lincoln Club today, because I was speaking at linkln Club,
people were making phone calls with each other and texting
and I'm looking at a place in Denver tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Awesome. So all right, you're working on the physical plant.
You I assume you have the control over all this
social media platforms email that.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Has that transition Gjorady majority.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
So there's still a few emails that we are, like
I said, like social medias that we don't have access to.
We're trying to figure out who has access to it.
So we're kind of digging through that. We still, like
I said, of another week and a half before the
person that's been the treasure I guess from the past,
Tom Bjorglund, he's like bringing information over. We are getting it,
We're getting it to our team, but there's still.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
You know, we're hunting a pack in for a couple
of pieces, all right, So we're going to cut to
a break when we come back. I'm going to ask
you the tough question of where's the finances at So
again we got Bretta Horn here, the new GOP chairwoman
with the Colorado Colorado GOP. We're going to cut the break.
You're listening to the Dan Caplis Show here with Well
County Sheriff Steve Reams as your guest host, and we'll
have Bretta on the other side.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Welcome back to the Dan capless Show. You got Steve
Reims Well Kenny Sheriff setting in and the driver's seat
today again day three of three for me, and we're
almost halfway through the heck, we're more than halfway through
the show, almost halfway through the second hour. In the
first in the first segment of this second hour, I
introduced that we had Britta Horn in studio here. She's
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setting to my left and she's a newly elected state
Party GOP chair woman. When we went to break, we've
been talking about a little bit of the you know,
just the hardcore takeover of the office and some of
the some of the the wranglings that you've been through.
And I said when we came back from break, I
was going to ask you a question, and that is
(10:45):
where are we at financially as a party? What are
the finances?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
So the finances are coming to fruition.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
We're finding out and so there was an FEC report
that was put out on the fifteenth by the you know,
the former team. It's like Tom Bjorglan that's still working
of the next couple of days with us, and he
had to put a report off to the FEC file.
And you can go to the FEC file and see it,
and you can see all the income and all the expenses,
and there's like a schedule or I think they call
(11:11):
it Appendix A and Appendix B. Appendix A has the
receipts and then Appendix by is the disbursements. And I
think it's really important that the you know, everybody goes
and looks at that, and goes and looks at themselves
and see how the money was spent, what was spent on,
because we'll probably have a discussion about that, but be
really be serious.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I'm being very serious about this. We're going to look at.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
It, We're going to go through the transparency of it,
but we got to move forward.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
We have work to do.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I understood. So as of right now, you don't really
have a dollar figure that you know what you can
work with.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
I think at this point, because what's being reported, and
as we're getting all the bank accounts we'll put like
I said, next week, we'll have a better handle on
it all right.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Little little trepidation there, I would assume of where this
thing's going. I mean, obviously you want to take over
a party that's in in good health and plenty of cash,
because as you've been talking, the goal of this movement
is to get Republicans elected, not to invite, but to
move forward. I've been asking our callers do you think
(12:13):
we can bring back some of these seats? Do you
think we can win the governor seat? Do you think
we can win an AG se Can we not kicking
Looper out of that Senate seat? And you, as the
state party chairwoman, you're going to be saddled with trying
to make that happen. Do you think that those are
winnable seats? And if so, what's the strategy to get there?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
I think the strategy is definitely we need to start
having messaging, really good messaging to people that matter. Because
we still had two hundred and fifty thousand Republicans that
didn't vote last November, there were active Republicans. There's three
hundred thousand independents that are right leaning independence. We need
a message to them as well. All those seats can
I We're definitely going to move the needle. I'm looking
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at all those seats. Let's find the seats that we
definitely can win and make sure that we do. I
still think there's going to be more names coming into
the you know, to every one of those seats, and
I think someone might surprise you.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, I hope so, because right now there's no names
in some of those seats, and you know, I have
to believe some of that is just because of a
little bit of trepidation of jumping into a state wide
race knowing what kind of the history has been over
the last few cycles of the state GOP not really
being there to support some of the candidates. And I
say that very directly. We had Gabe Evans on earlier
(13:23):
in the show, and I remember getting some mailings from
him that had to go through the state of Arizona
in order to get to my mailbox because there was
there was a I guess a lack of trust in
the state GOP process. Is that trust instantly rebuilt with
you being in the seat?
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I think a little bit. I don't. I know, I
have a team.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
We have you know, we obviously won by fifty three percent,
so obviously there was enough there. You know, everybody was
there and wanted this change to happen.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
So I saw it. I felt it.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
I felt it since last year when we used to
I started running, going, we have got to change this.
And I hope my history and my background putting out fires,
you know, thinking, artical thinking, but you know, problem solving.
We're going to be able to get a lot of
these pieces done. And there's a lot of mechanism. So
you know, there's five hundred and eight people that are
part of the state's Central Committee, and that's great, and
(14:12):
all five one hundred and eight of those, no matter what,
they're going to vote Republican. I got to get him
to turn around from the tent and start shooting outside
the tent and go in and finding more, more candidates
and more voters.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
We got to get people rowing in the right direction.
I think, is what you're trying to say, Britta. I didn't
want I don't want to put you on the spot,
but we had someone that call called in. I think
I know who this person is. It's Todd from El
Paso County. He wants to he's calling in to talk
about some litigation in reference to the Colorado GOP chair race.
Are you willing to take that call? Sure?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
All right? Is this Todd Watkins?
Speaker 7 (14:44):
It just might be, yes, sir, Sheriff.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Okay, Todd. I wasn't expecting a phone call during Britta's interview,
but she said she's willing to take the call. So
what do you have in reference to the litigation that was,
I guess kind of bubbling under the surface during that
GOP chair race.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
I didn't want to take up the chairs whole time
on this, but I was hoping that Britta could give
an update on where things stand right now. There have
been some developments, and it's probably okay to speak about
a couple of them because it's starting to see a resolution.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I believe, correct me if I'm wrong. But weren't you
part of that litigation as well? Weren't you being sued
by one side? Yes? Sir, Okay, Well, Britta, do you
feel comfortable answering that question.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Sir, just to just unpack for your listeners real quickly.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
So there was a lawsuit against like I said, Todd,
a handful of us, from Christy Burton Brown KBB all
the way down to all the people that were involved
in Brighton when we were doing those other meetings, and
we were within our you know, the bylaws and two
sections to go ahead and have those meetings and conduct them.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
And so instead of what.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
I would have done if I knew that half my
party was not happy they have the group, I would
walk in that room, sit down at the table, break
bread and figure it out. Instead, the previous leadership decided
to sue us, and so then there was a TRORO
and then it got dismissed.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
All that. Thank you for doing that. I appreciate that, Sheriff.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
And then and then and then this last couple of months,
all of a sudden, we're being sued for the money
that was spent over one hundred thousand dollars to pay
for this lawsuit that was frivolous and dismissed anyway, you know.
So we've been going back and forth. So then how
do I be on one side of the lawsuit then
win the chair and be on the other side of
(16:33):
the lawsuit.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
So we went.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Ahead really quickly and had it dismissed with prejudice. But
then there ended up being this other rogue air quote
my fingers are up in air quotes investigative committee saying
that they had more authority.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
They were put together by.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
The previous administ you know, previous leadership, and they said
that they had power over all of us to to
continue the lawsuit like it could still has to go.
So you can't sue yourself with yourself by people that
you know are working for you.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I'm already confused, all right.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
So there's three reasons why it wasn't going to work,
and it's called state law, the Bye laws, and Robert's
reserve order. So and we just found out today that
if there was an order denying the intervention of this.
So the judge went ahead and said that the judge
rejected the so called air quote investigative committee and had
any authority to continue with the lawsuit. So Dave's attempt
(17:27):
to rule from the dead over a rogue committee that
answers to no one is over.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Okay. Well, so look we're about to hit a hard break.
I appreciate you coming on. I think you've got a
heck of a task ahead of you, but I'm grateful
that you were willing to step into the studio, take
a few questions here and try to get the listeners
going in the right direction. Brenda again, thanks for being
on the show. Thanks for being on with the Dan
Kapli Show with myself, well Kenny sheriff, Steve Reems setting
(17:53):
in and again.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Thank you, thank you very much. Let's do it next time.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
You bet we'll go to break and uh we'll be
back with he just shortly.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Welcome back to the Dan Capless Show with well kind
of shriff Steve Riems stilling in his guest host in
day three of three, and we just got done with
Britta Horn in studio. You know, we never have enough
time to ask all the questions you want to have ask,
but well we'll kind of follow up with that in
our last segment. I want to go to a guest
that I wasn't planning on having on. I didn't I
(18:35):
didn't know if we'd be able to get him. But
this is Alan Cooper from Fremont County. Colorado, and the
reason I want to bring Alan on. He's a sheriff
up there and here recently. You know, earlier in the week,
we were talking about illegal immigration and crime in Colorado,
and I was trying to highlight stories that kind of
crossed both paths and just doing a little we'll say
(18:57):
slicing and dison through the Google machine. I've found a
story out of Freemont County where a couple of illegals
had been arrested for transporting a bunch of ammunition. And
I just so happened to know the Fremont County sheriff,
so we thought we'd give him a call. Alan Cooper.
Are you on the line with us? I am Alan,
Thanks for being on, and kind of tell the callers
a little bit about where you're at in Fremont County.
(19:19):
I mean, is what does Fremont County encompass and then
we'll get to the story.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
Well, Freemont County is down in south central Colorado or
rural county, and Highway fifty actually bisection Mike County. Our
distinction as we have the highest concentration of prisons in
the United States. I've got over a dozen state and
federal facilities here in my jurisdiction.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Canyon City comes to mind. Yes, all right, So Alan, recently,
like I was saying, I saw this story about I
think it was your deputies that contacted a couple of
individuals on a traffic stop, and this thing kind of
unfolded into something that I don't think they were quite expecting.
Tell us what that was.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
Okay, high Way fifty, like I said, bisects Fremont County.
It's also one of the two east west thoroughfares across
our state. So we do interdiction. And I had two
investigators that were out doing interdiction stops, and so they
saw a vehicle that committed a couple of traffic violations.
(20:25):
And our practices, we pulled people over, We talk with
them a little bit, make sure everything's okay. If there's
no reason to investigate further, we cut them loose. But
if something piqued their curiosity, then we delve deeper into that.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And what was it that these folks were stopped for.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
They were stopped initially for fare to dim.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Okay, so driving a night kept the rights on driving.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
At night, failed at dim. Then when the deputies turned
around to contact them for that they quickly turned into
a gas station and didn't signal. That's the second violation.
And so they made contact with the driver and the
passenger and just engagement conversation, told them why they stopped them.
And they noticed that there were a lot of boxes
(21:14):
in this van, and they asked, you know, what's in
the boxes? What's going on? And they were very obviously
ammunition boxes, boxes of ammunition. Well, they know in the
state of Colorado, if you're hauling over a certain amount
of ammunition, then you have to be placarded. Has this material.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And that wasn't the case in this particular stop, I
guess not the case.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
They had no paperwork indicating that they were commercially able
to hauld that quantity of ammunition when they provided documentation
to the deputies. They were on a non immigration status DIVISA,
which meant that they could be legally in the country
to work and conduct business.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But that business wasn't transport transporting ammunition. I assume how
much ammunition are we talking about here, Allen.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
One hundred and eighty thousand rounds, one.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Hundred and eighty thousand rounds of what kind of ammo?
Speaker 8 (22:11):
Well, one hundred and fifty thousand rounds was three away
or seven sixty two by fifty one ball ammo? Okay,
thirty thousand rounds was seven sixty two.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
By thirty nine all right, so ak forty seven ammo? Correct? Okay?
And what was there? What was their reason for that
much that's a lot of ammo? What was their reason
for moving that much ammo? And where were they coming
from and where were they going?
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Well, they said that they had gone come to Mexico,
then went to Denver to buy a vehicle, which we're
presuming to be the vehicle they were driving, a van, yes, right,
And then they were going to go up to Salt
Lake City to buy another van for another vehicle. Okay,
which is Salt Lake City is where they actually purchased
the ammunition.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Okay, no van, but ammunition instead. And where were they
taking the ammunition? Two? And for purpose?
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Well, they weren't really certain, at least they did not
give my deputies a firm answer. And it was at
that point they made the decision to contact both ICE
and Department Homeland Security.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And where are these individuals at now and what charges
may be pending.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
Currently they're in the custody of the Department Homeland Security
their face with unlawful possession of ammunition by a non
US citizen and that's in violation of their non immigration
status fieses and for the NOE placarding of the hazards
materials on the van.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So I have to suspect that that ammunition was probably
heading or likely heading for some nefarious cause. Is that
kind of your intuition as well?
Speaker 8 (23:49):
My intuition is that they were definitely en route to
take it into Mexico.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And no idea if these guys were identified as a
particular gang affiliation or anything like that.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
I assume I don't have that information right now.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Okay, that's fair. So you know, these are trick questions.
But apparently the laws in Colorado didn't prevent them. All
these laws that we've passed about ammunition and taxing and
all that stuff, it didn't slow them down whatsoever. Sounds
like that's a rhetorical question. Alan. So having said all that,
(24:27):
your deputies were they shocked by what they found where
they were they had all surprised. I mean, you know,
is this just is this pretty common? Is this routine?
Or is this definitely out of the ordinary.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
The quantity was out of the ordinary. But we've had
involvement here with cartails before. We had a pretty serious
incident last year with the Cuban cartail sure, and we
actually got involved with a fire firefight up off one
(25:02):
of my county roads and I think there were totally
almost two hundred grounds expended.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Wow. So we had a gentleman on earlier today that
he's with the Federation for American Immigration Reform. His name
is Art del Quoito. He's spent quite a bit of
time with border patrol in his in his previous career,
and you know, we've kind of talked about how every
state is a border state at this point. I guess
Fremont County doesn't escape that. You have plenty of issues
(25:28):
of dealing with illegal immigrants and crime where those things
cross sect. Is that correct?
Speaker 8 (25:34):
That's correct.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, you know, Alan Sheriff Cooper, I appreciate you coming on.
I know that you know, oftentimes these cases you got
to be very careful about what you say and what
you don't as this thing is still pending prosecution, whether
it's by the federal authorities or local authorities. But thanks
for sharing the information with us, and thanks for coming
on with such short notice again, I respect the work
(25:56):
that you do up there in Fremont. I know that
you're not typically a a radio kind of guy, but
thanks for coming on and thanks for educating us on
this particular call.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
All right, I appreciate it, Steve, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Thanks. That was Sheriff Cooper on with us. I've known
Alan for a long time. Again, he's not a man
of a lot of words, so getting him on the
radio is kind of a kind of a stretch for him.
But he is very much by the book and believes
in doing the right thing. I'm quite certain of this
case plays out in the future. We're going to hear
a lot more about where this thing could have gone
(26:30):
and where that emma was intended to intended to end up.
But glad that thing was caught. I're glad that incident
was caught, and I'm really interested to see where it
shakes out in the end. We'll cut the break, We'll
get to our last segment of day three again here
on the Dan Capless Show with Well Kenny Sheriff Steve
Raams filling.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
In and now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Welcome back to the final segment of the Dan Capless
show here on a Wednesday. You got well Kenny Sheriff
Steve Riams filling in in my last segment, and I
got to tell you it's been a blast for these
three days. It's always fun to be on the show
trying to fill Dan's shoes, which are far too big
for me to fill by any sense of the word.
But we gave it the best college try, you know.
(27:13):
In the show had quite a few guests on. Today
was definitely jam packed, but we still have time for
a couple of calls if anybody wants to call in
three oh three seven one, three eight, two five five
or text in at five seven, seven, three nine a
couple of texts here I want to get to. In
reference to chairwoman Britta Horn being on, says Steve not
answers from the GOP woman, I can't necessarily disagree. I don't.
(27:37):
I'm a little shocked at no dollar amount. That that
part kind of I struggle with. And I get it.
You know, you're you're trying to transition from one group
to the next, and maybe that dollar figure doesn't make sense.
But I know if I were handing something off to
the next person, I'd want to seal a deal and
say here's exactly what you have to go with. I
don't know if that happened or not, but they're definitely
(27:58):
in the building stage right now, and I'm I'm I'll
be cautiously optimistic. I wish it was moving a little faster.
I'd love to see the focus already being on how
do we get somebody elected instead of how do we
get an office? But sometimes you don't control those timelines
exactly why you'd want to.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
You consider too, what Britas said to afford her some
a little bit of latitude here. It could not have
been a more hostile transition from the previous regime. And
Dave Williams telling them they had to vacate the premises
of quarters here in two months here in Greenwood Village.
It's not exactly like that regime did its level best
to hand the torch off.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah. No, I don't blame her for not being in
a situation wholly on her own. I mean again, you
can only move as fast as the information that you get.
But boy it, you know, as we're talking about where
does the party go, how do you win some of
these seats? It's going to take a functioning state party
to make that happen. And again, I'll remain cautiously optimistic.
(28:54):
Here's another one. Sixty sixty year plus a native of
Colorado was always voted a Republican. That being said, they're
now an unaffiliated voter because the Republican Party, both state
and federal level became ineffective. Here can your guest explain
what will change to get me to switch back? And
you know, I didn't get a chance to read this
while she was here. I think she's definitely trying to
(29:17):
get her feet underneath her and trying to figure out, Okay,
what's step one of getting this thing going in the
right direction. You know, that's not a seat I would
have ever run for. Again, I I equate it to
the dog that's chasing a car and catches it and says,
oh crap, what do I do now? Bretta's got the
oh crap? What I do now? Look in some of these,
(29:37):
some of these ways just because you can't do you
can't move forward with the data you don't have, You
can't move forward with the with the you know, without
having an office and some places to work from. So
give her a little bit of latitude. But proofs in
the pudding. We'll see where this thing goes in the future. Ryan,
do you do you think this thing can turn around?
Do you see the state GOP becoming strong in the
(29:58):
next year? Take a can.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
But I do believe it'll take time, Sheriff. It didn't
get broken overnight, and I don't think it'll be fixed overnight. Plus,
the Democrats have an inherent built in advantage.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
They've just grown in numbers.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
I think a high percentage of those who refer to
themselves as unaffiliated are actually Democrat voters who are an
affiliated for what any of a number of reasons. But yeah,
I think it's winning hearts and minds. I think it's
going back to the text from Kimberly earlier. You know,
let's focus on the winning issues that are in our party,
are many, exactly, and just hammer those home and drive
(30:32):
them past wherever a partisan line might divide them. Because
parents are going to care about their kids regardless. Business
owners are going to care about their businesses, their safety,
their security, which you've had a great hand in in
Weld County yourself as sheriff. Sure, and when illegal criminal
aliens are here and then they're mucking up the works.
I don't think that a Democratic business owner is exactly
(30:54):
crazy about that either.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
No, I agree with you, but you know, you do
have to look at the hard numbers. I think Trump
lost here by hundred and fifty thousand votes, So Bretta
was saying, there was two hundred and fifty thousand Republicans
that didn't vote, So even if all of those vote,
he's still underwater by two hundred thousand. So then the
question is where do you get the unaffiliated votes or
how do you pull those over on a you know,
if you're just looking at that top line victory and
(31:15):
that next top line victory is going to be the
US Senate and the governor's race here in the state
of Colorado. You know, I don't know if there'll be
a four hundred and fifty vote four hundred and fifty
thousand vote swing, but it's going to take a lot
of work to get there and the right candidate. You know,
we were talking about this at the end of the
show yesterday. I think the right candidates still exist out there.
(31:37):
I'm still going to keep recruiting Dan Kaplis as a
potential to jump in that governor's race, and I'm sure
a lot of the listeners would agree with me on that.
In fact, they were wholeheartedly yesterday. So hopefully when he
gets back in this studio seat, he's going to scroll
through and read some of those text messages. I know
he gets them every day. But regardless, I think there's
a pathway back to victory. It's just not going to
(31:57):
be easy. And I have never put in for the
position that Bretta put in, you know, especially in the
environment in which she ran for it. You know, I've
worked with Dave Williams in years past. I didn't necessarily
agree with the way he ran the state Party, but
you know that being said, I don't think his goal
was to completely destroy it. I think he had a
(32:20):
methodology to his madness. I just don't think a lot
of people lined up behind that methodology. And now we're
at a place where it's time to shift gears and
try something else, and Bretta Horn is the one that's
going to have to try that something else. We got
a lot of listeners out there, We got a lot
of followers out there that are definitely Republican leaning, probably
on the Republican side of the ticket, probably don't vote
anything but that, but they need a reason to get
(32:42):
off their seat, and they need a candidate they can
get inspired by. Earlier in the week, we talked about,
or maybe it was one one of the previous shows,
how many different candidates were running for governor. The I
guess top four right now, and probably name order is
Greg Lopez, Mark Baisley, Scott Bottoms, and then you know,
maybe Jason Mike Sel. Outside of that, We're we're struggling
(33:05):
to find some name recognition in this state. So Ryan,
unless you're going to jump in for one of these seats,
maybe a gee, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
Well, I used the Butch Cassidy and Sundance kid metaphor earlier.
If you and I were to run up for something together,
I might be cooking with gas there.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Well, hey, maybe you can be the lieutenant governor candidate.
When Dan announces to be the governor.
Speaker 9 (33:25):
I think I will I'll put this out there, and
I told him this, but I will put it out
for the listeners. If Dan were to run and I
were asked to serve as as comms director, I would probably.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Do so well that Hey, I'd love to be the
director of public safety. Yeah, let's take on the state
and figure out how to clean this mess up. I
can tell you there's a whole lot of policies that
would change when it comes to dealing with with criminals
out on the street. You give me a chance to
run some of these these state agencies.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
The Colorado version of Tom Homan'd I'd.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Be okay with that. That's a compliment. It is. It's
been a great time here in these three days. I
hope you get a chance to come back at some point.
Don't run me off too fast. But again just to
honor to set in for Dan caplis work with Ryan
Shuling as the producer Kelly when she was here a
couple of days. Again, thanks for tolerting me over this
last three days, and thanks for listening on the Dan
(34:18):
Caples Show here on six point thirty k How with
Well Kenny Sheriff Stevens
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