April 14, 2025 • 34 mins
Senator Barb Kirkmeyer (R-23) checks in with an update on the pork barrel projects Governor Jared Polis is trying to insert into the legislative spending bill for 2025, even as we enter the fiscal year over our spending budget for the year.
Sheriff Steve Reams responds to callers and texters on his law enforcement perspective regarding several topics of political importance and interest.
Sheriff Steve Reams responds to callers and texters on his law enforcement perspective regarding several topics of political importance and interest.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show or an hour
two of the show. And if you're paying any attention,
then you'll know that I am not Dan Caplis. You've
got Steve Reams today, Well County Sheriff filling in and
happy to do so. Dan's out fighting a good fight
on someone else's behalf, I'm sure, but again, it's always
a pleasure to be here and take some calls. Today
we're clearing the decks on a bunch of issues when
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it as it pertains to Senate Bill twenty five Dash three,
the terrible gun law that Governor Polis signed into into
law last Thursday. And with us on the line, we
have Jim from Lamar. He wants to comment about some
of the gun laws that have been coming through the
state of Colorado. Jim, what do you got to say?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well, as an Illinoian who became a Colorado or so,
I'm very depressed I can understand that I've been fighting
these things for a long time and I come here
and have to fight them all over again. And now
we're going to go to court. Rocky Mountain gun Owners
who you just had on they need members, they need support.
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There's Colorado Shooting Association out here that are NRA associated.
They need your support, they need members, they need money.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
We've got to go to court.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
NRA. If you're not a life member of the NRA,
what the hell's wrong with you. You've got to become
a member. Okay, Second Amendment Foundation, become a member. Gun
Owners of America, become a member. There's the National Gun
Owners Association here in Loveland. Become a member. Support these guys.
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They're going to get the attorneys to go to court.
We're going to court. It's got to be fought in
the courts. Unfortunately, this new thing isn't going to be
fought until it actually passes in all six August. But
we're paying an extra six percent, which is illegal. Sure,
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so and as Ian said, they got like ten more
gun laws that they're passing or have passed that have
to be fought. I can't believe I came to this
state and have to put up with this. I keep
being told all it's all the Californians. I'm sorry, I
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don't think it is.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I don't know who to blame it on at
this point other than laying it at the feet of
the legislature and the governor who signed it, and the
governor before hid that signed the same bad gun bills.
I mean, this state's been been on a downward trend
when it comes to gun rights for quite some time,
but the last couple of years have definitely it's been
like we're on steroids for bad gun legislation. Jim, I'm
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sorry that your experience from moving to Oregon to Colorado
just like is a repeat. I'll tell you my experience
is from moving from Texas to here, and you know,
I oftentimes say, well, I don't know if that was
the best decision in the world when it comes to
my gun rights, because in Texas they still believe in
the Second Amendment, unlike here in Colorado. But Jim, thanks
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for the phone call, and we really appreciate you calling in.
I want to get to a few of the texts too.
We've got a whole bunch of them coming through this
one here says Sheriff Eames, what do you say to
the residents that are looking to you, as an elected
constitutional law man to do something against what I see
as tyranny by our Democrats ruining this state. They attacked
our kids, our roads, our jobs, our money, Now our
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gun rights. How much more are we going to lose?
This isn't freedom, you know. I think that's a very
poignant text. I think people in this state are getting
pretty fed up. And that leads me back to one
of the other questions I asked at the top of
the show, who do you want to see run for
governor to help try to turn this back around. I
went through a list of eleven names. I'll read them
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off here again. We've got eleven Republican candidates in the
race right now. We've got State Senator Mark Baisley, State
Reps Scott Bottoms, someone named Jason Clark, I don't know
who that is, Bryson Garrison again, I don't know who
that is, Steven Guess, John Gray Ginsburg, Joshua Griffin, Jason
mikes Ol, the sheriff down in Tayler County, Alexander Maguta, Magatta,
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Jim Runberg, and then today we had Greg Lopez jump
into the race. So are any of those names the
thing that you you want to hear so far? I mean,
are those names resonating for you? Or better yet, who
do you not want to see run? You know, I
guess that's a that's maybe a bad question because that
list might be even longer. But are there names on
this list that you rather not see on there? I mean,
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you know some of these people that are running that
just totally excite you and say that's the guy or
that's the person that I want to get behind, Or
is there someone out there sitting on the bench that
you say, this is the person we need to we
need to get into the race. And I'm taking myself
out of that equation, as you know, Ryan's tried to
elude several times. I think, you know, I think that
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it's time for the people in this state to say
we've had enough. We're tired of the attacks on our kids.
We're tired of the attacks on our roads and or
the mismanagement of our roads, our jobs, our money, our
gun rights. Who can bring it back? You know, I'd
love to hear what you have to say. Everybody's texting
and about Center Bill twenty five to three. Not too
many people are throwing in any good positive vibes here
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about the governor's race, and I don't think it's a
lost cause. I think with Michael Bennett, the presumptive candidate
on the dim side, I mean again, that's that's boring
on steroids. I mean, the guy is just like I said,
every time he talks it sounds like he's talking through
a yawn and he makes me tired. Going back to
the text that says, dims argue voter idea as a
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poll tax and certain people are too dumb to get
an id'. You hear that quite often, they don't say
it quite that way. Should make the same argument against
Senate Bill twenty five to three if you got to,
you know, we're not smart enough to figure out how
to go get these, so you should just repeal the law.
I guess it says if you ask me, dumb voters
are more dangerous than dumb gun owners. That's probably true,
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which explains a lot of the reasons why we're in
the state that we're in here in our state of Colorado,
here's a very on point question. Can you tell me
what the penalties are for violating any of the provisions
in Senate Bill three, most notably, if you are found
to have acquired a gun without going through all these
new steps and hoops. The first penalty is a Class
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two minut misdemeanor, but a second or subsequent offense becomes
a Class six felony. So if somehow you go out
and obtain a gun without going through this new process
of getting a background check, going to your sheriff's office,
presenting that background check to your sheriff, getting permission with
a card to then go take a class, if you
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don't do all those steps correctly, and somehow you still
obtain a gun, at that point, you could be in
violation of the law as it's written, and you'd face
a class two misdemeanor, or if you do it a
couple of times, class six felony. So that's the best
answer I can give. There's also one other provision in
the bill that if you provide a false statement to
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the sheriff that you're going to go ask for this
card from that too, could also be an issue of perjury,
and I've never seen perjury used in that type of form,
but regardless, that's kind of that's kind of one other
penalty that could be there. I think that would be
a misdemeanor crime. And one other text here says on
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the governor's race, anybody who has the Trump brand is
going to be branded as toxic in Colorado. Any Republican
running for governor will get tagged with that and get
beaten badly. Colorado is just that far left. Please convince
me I'm wrong, and they thank me for my service.
All that being said, you know, I don't know if
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Trump is resonating as poorly in Colorado as he was
maybe prior to his election. You know, some of the
stuff that's going on right now with tariffs make things
a little more questionable. I think people who are looking
at their four oh one k are getting a little
a little antsy. My dad's listening down in Texas. I
know we've had that conversation a couple of times about
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you know, hey, where's my four oh one k going?
And boy, I think certainty in the market is something
that a lot of people look for. But you know,
I don't know if Trump necessarily tears a candidate down,
but he certainly probably doesn't build one up in the
state of Colorado. But who knows. I give it a
couple more weeks, and Trump's capable of just about anything.
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But I want to make sure that we have time
for our next segment. We're going to have Senator Barb
kirk Myron, So we're cut to a break so that
she can get on with us ride at five twenty.
I'm told she has a very tough timeline, but I
want to get a chance to talk with her about
where we're at in the state of Colorado when it
comes to the Joint Budget Committee, which she is a
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big piece of. So we'll cut to break. You're listening
to the Dan Capless Show here on six point thirty
k How was Steve Raams Weld Kenny Sheriff.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Welcome back to the Dan Capless Show. You're listening to
Sheriff Steve Raams stilling end today from up down from
Weld County and bringing in one of the Weld County's
finest state Senator from Senate District twenty three, Barb Kirkmeyer's
on the line with us. Barb, how you doing?
Speaker 6 (09:42):
I am doing pretty good.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I think, well, that's a tough question right where you're at.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Yeah, exactly, it's just been a crazy day.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
But that's okay.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I guess that goes with the job, right, So what's
going on with the state budget? I know that you've
been a fighter going back and forth and kind of
trying to set the state in the right direction. Tells
tell the listeners a little bit about some of the
fights you've been having and kind of where we look
as a state right now.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Sure well, let me just start off first by saying,
we started the year in the hole, the budget year
in the hole, like by one point two billion at
one point. We're in what's called a structural deficit. And
it's not caused because of tabor. It's not caused because
we're in a recession, because we're not. Our economy is
pretty good right now. Quite frankly, it's been caused because
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the General Assembly and the Governor's administration, the executive branch
have just been overspending year over year for like the
last six years. And the overspending got masked by all
of these federal dollars that came in, you know, from COVID.
So we got in all these federal dollars and we
just kept spending them. On things that were supposed to
be one time and then they turned into ongoing and
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that caused this structural deficit that we have. So you
know me as my sheriff, you know me as a
county commissioner, and you know where I sit as a
budget hawk kind of thing, and I'm like, oh my god,
we have we have got to stop spending, and they
just can't help themselves. They just cannot help themselves down here.
So we have a constitutional requirement that we have to
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have a balanced budget, and I keep reminding them all
that means for more than just one day, not just
the day that the governor signs the budget. We really
should have had me a balanced budget, and we need
to control ourselves with spending. So it's just it's been
crazy when the governor who put in his budget request,
and I have to keep reminding him the executive branch
does not write the budget. It's the legislative branch, and
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it's the six members on the Joint Budget Committee that
actually write the budget, of which I'm one of those six.
But when he submitted his budget request back in November,
he comes in front of the Joint Budget Committee to
present it, he left a half hour early because I
was asking him a bunch of questions and ask him
how how I could even take his budget requests.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I find that hard to believe, having presented a budget
in front of the Board of County Commissioners a few times.
But that's great to hear. So, so what kind of
stuff was he throwing in there that you're asking questions about?
Speaker 6 (12:10):
So get this, he had a So we have a
constitutional requirement to fund education a free public school system,
and then also to increase that funding year over year
again in our constitution by inflation for the total program.
He came in with a one hundred and fifty million dollars
cut to education.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well that doesn't sound very pro education.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Yeah, exactly, and it's not. And then he also came
in with cutting Medicaid, like, let's cut medicaid, and it
was probably close to about one hundred to one hundred
and twenty million dollars worth of cut to medicaid at least,
and you know, and then in the meantime, after you know,
Trump gets elected and we're in doing hearings and stuff,
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all I've heard is how Trump's going to cut medicaid.
What are you talking about? The governor wants to cut
Medicaid and I have to fight to get it act.
So those are two of our most critical programs, you know,
those programs that we fund, those that just you know,
they can't do things for themselves. And we need to
fund medicaid and we need to fund it, and we
have to fund education. And in his November first budget request,
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he didn't want to fund education. He didn't fund medicaid fully,
he didn't fund higher education fully, and he cut healthcare
as well. So I'm like, seriously, why why do I
take this budget request seriously? Because he also had in
there that he wanted to fund a new ticket booth
at the States there, that we should fund additional like
landscaping around the Capitol, and that we should build a
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bridge from and I know that sounds funny, build a
bridge from the Capital grounds across Broadway and Lincoln over
to Civic Center Park.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
In Denver, the homeless, mental homeless.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
People, right.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
No, he wanted to put his name on it so
that it would be there for you know, twenty twenty six,
when we turn one hundred and fifty years old in
this state. So it's stuff like that. I'm like, it's
just crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So that with the at the end of DOGE at
the at the national level and kind of all the
stuff that you're hearing, you know, the terrible spending being found.
It sounds like you're kind of the Doge committee in
a lot of ways. For the state budget. What was
the most out of line thing that you saw? The
request for the bridge sounds like it might be on there,
but I mean, where was the most egregious funding request
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that you saw in the In the governor's.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Proposal, I would say, and it wasn't a filianus proposal,
but it was buried in all the stuff that you know,
all the things that are funded down here, all the
cash funds and the general fund. It's the second salary
for the lieutenant governor. Now, granted, i'm talking about when
we're talking about one point two billion dollars shortfall, I'm
talking about in the general fund operating budget, which is
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not our forty six billion dollar budget because that includes
federal funds and cash funds. But our general fund operating
budget is around, you know, anywhere from eighteen to twenty
billion dollars depending on you look on it. But let's
just say it's eighteen billion dollars and we had to
cut one point two billion, and we have all of
these cash funds, we have all these offices and programs
that are already in place, and it's really really I
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have to go back and dig I mean, you remember
when I was as Acount Commissioner, we would do that
strategic budgeting and y'all would go through your budgets and say, hey,
here's where we can cut, here's where we don't need
this program. It's past as time. Men, they don't do that.
I mean, I try to get the executive branch to
do that, and they just like stare at me, and
you know, and then I have to be more firm
as you know I can be. But so so in
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the Governor's office is Lieutenant Governor's office, and within that
we have this other office called the Office of Saving
People Money, which is just a total joke.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
But she gets.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Paid an additional seventy five thousand dollars on top of
her salary that she's going down as lieutenant governor.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
What's the salary for the lieutenant governor's the what's the
primary salary?
Speaker 6 (15:56):
I think it's ninety or ninety three thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's so if you can get it.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah, so she's do what she should.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Be doing as lieutenant governor in the first place. So
I just think that's appalling to me. And why as
a lieutenant governor, why doesn't she just give that up?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
No kidding first deficit?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So did that get cut out or is she still
taking that salary? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Still she's still taking the additional salary. We tried to.
I tried to get it amended out and take care
of it during the budget process with a Joint Budget
Committee to noevel and even during the long bill process
on the Senate floor, Senator Pelton had an amendment to
try and get rid of that. And the answer is no.
I mean it's in law, so we have to actually
repill that section of law. And we can't get them to.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Repill it, of course not. Why would they do anything
that makes sense and actually save the states and money.
We got just a couple of minutes left, Barb. Is
there anything else you want to cover that isn't budget related?
I know you've got a lot of stuff going on
down there. Is there something that the listeners need to
really tune into it and have their radar.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
On for I would say, tune into and have your
for its House bill. I think it's twelve thirteen thirteen
twelve thirteen or thirteen twelve thirteen twelve. This is just
an outrageous bill to me, it's attacking our constitutional rights.
But moreover, it just feels like to me that there
are certain Democrats down here across the aisle, even though
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I've got friends across the aisle, but there are other
Democrats that really it feels like they've just declared war
on parents. I mean, they're going after parents, trying to
figure out how to take their children away from them
and cutty cases, and it is just way out of line.
And I think that would be a bill that hopefully,
you know, I mean, if I haven't heard from every
parents in the state by now, you know, please don't
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send me anymore emails. But I understand my colleagues across
the aisle to let them know that, you know, parents
are the ones who should be raising their children. We
shouldn't be interjecting in between a parent's ability to raise
their child and take care of their child in the
best interest of the child versus you know, basically saying
that if you call your child by their given name
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at birth and they don't want to be called that
that you could be taken up X be cohersive, and
you could lose custody of your child in a custody case.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
We got a heart we got a heartbreak. But thanks
for being on with us, thanks for educating us about
the budget, and we look forward to having you on again.
If you're listening to the Dan Caplis Show on six
point thirty KHW.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You're back with the Dan Kaplis Show yet Steve reims Well,
Kundy Sheriff setting in today and covering the show while
Dan's out doing some really important stuff. But at the
top of the show, the top of the hour, I
ask people, who do you want to see run for governor?
You know, we've got eleven candidates in the race now
by my last counting. Greg Lopez made his announcement today.
I think this is his third time, maybe third times
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a charm, But I've been asking you guys, who do
you want to see ron? And then also, since I
happen to be the sheriff up in Weld County, if
you have any questions about Cenebill twenty five to three
that maybe I can answer call in, ask your question.
We'll talk about both topics. But before we get to
the calls, just want to read a couple of texts here,
And this one's pretty much on point, and I'm guessing
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our first caller is going to agree with this. It says,
quit worrying about Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, enough about Trump,
steer the narratives of those unpopular policies, and start talking
about Colorado. Every time someone says, but Trump, there's a
lot of truth there. I mean, I think Republican candidates
tend to get caught in the cycle of saying yeah,
you know, trying to defend Trump instead of just turn
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around and talking about the meat and potatoes of what's
going on. A couple other texts says there's a lot
of gray areas in this new gun law. That's the
understatement of the day. And then Michael Bennett is entirely
beatable with the right person hitting all the right notes.
They believe Bennett's superpower might be putting people to sleep.
And then we have one text in here, Dan for Governor,
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which I totally support, but I don't know that he'd
USh With that being said, if this is the Joe
from Marveda, I think it is. I'm guessing we're going
to hear some stuff about Trump, So we'll go to
that call first.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Joe, you on line with absolutely, Hey, hey, absolutely, First,
you know what you talk about Michael Bennett. This might
be a little before your time, but did you ever
see their movie Fast Time at Rich Month High?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Absolutely? Are we talking about speccoli Pacoli?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Michael Bennett. It's Poli. He's not as fun though, well no,
he's not as fun, but he sounds like him.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah he does, he does. Yeah, it's bad, it's bad.
So what do you think about the Republicans having a
chance in the state. Who's our who's our candidate going
to be? And is there anybody in the race now
that excite you?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Well? This was this was more. This was more gun related.
I mean, yeah, go ahead, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a
veteran and I'm a like member of the n r A,
and you know it is time for Republicans to point
out how, pardon me, how bad Democrat policies of gun
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control are. Sure, because look at look look at Chicago.
They had like the most restrictive gun laws there are right,
And how's that? How's the crime there?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Right? It's working out great? Right? I mean, if you
if you.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Want to look gun laws, gun laws or restrict you
and I because we abide by law, do they restrict
you know, criminals? It just it just blows my mind.
I just oh, it makes my blood boil.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well, Joe, I understand where you're at. And I think
you know you can't have one conversation without without having
the other. How do we get here? How do we
have all these restrictive gun laws in the states Because
we keep electing and we keep allowing Democrats to get
elected in this state. We don't have a united message
behind a good candidate for governor. We haven't for quite
some time. I don't know if one of these candidates
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in the race is going to do that, but uh,
we got to get there. I mean, at some point,
I think the people in this state that aren't died
in the world Democrats are going to say, Okay, enough's enough.
And just like Trump won the country back, I think
someone can win this state back. And I don't know
if that person's in the race yet. I don't know
if that person's waiting in the wings, But Uh, you know. Uh,
that's the way I see it. So Joe, thanks.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Can add to that. You said we elect I didn't
elect them.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
No, I get I say we collected it.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I know, I know, I understand, I understand.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I've never checked it, never checked a D on my
ballot either, So U Joe, thanks again, We appreciate it.
Get to a couple more texts here and then we'll uh,
we'll get to our next caller. This one is a
little confusing for me. It says, if you find yourself
defending your your family and your own home, you're forced
to shoot. I guess someone who's breaking in and the
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gun you grabbed in the emergency is quote unquote illegal. Well,
but the shooting itself would be justified. How does that
play out in the courts? And what I would say is,
if you already own the gun, you've already got it
in your house. You didn't acquire it illegally. This bill
does nothing to the guns you already owned. So if
you're using a gun to defend you and your family
inside your home, you don't need to worry about Senate
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Bill IREI. Now, if you've gone out and acquired that
gun somehow in violation of this law. You know, I'd
say I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by
six any given days. So if it comes down to
protecting your family, I think that's what you probably should do.
It looks like we got Dean from Ourvada on the line.
He wants to comment on gun laws. Dean, are you
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with us?
Speaker 8 (23:40):
Yes, sir, Yeah. We found out last summer. I guess
it was that prosecutors can basically prosecute anybody, including Donald Trump,
for pretty much anything. That is, when it comes down
to these gun laws, there's so much gray area. You
get the wrong crosster, he's gonna go after you, and
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you're just gonna ask for mercy because you know, the
prosecutor's got a lot more money to go after you
than you can defend yourself.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Most in most places, except.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
For you know, like Donald Trump, he has had a
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, he could five back a little bit. Yeah. You know,
you make a good point there, when you when you
write a bill, it has so much gray area in
it that leaves so much for the imagination, if you will.
The devil's in the details, and when the details aren't there,
someone can make them up and kind of twist the
bill to their own liking. Oh, I totally see where
you're coming from.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
Like a sheriff like you, Yeah, sheriff like you is
probably gonna say, look, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna,
you know, use this against you. But you get the
wrong sharef for the wrong prosecutor, and you're just playing
like mercy. Now, I'm like, please please give me a
misdemeanor instead of a felony. You know, it's it's it's
crazy how this works. I just I think in the
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gun laws are going to chill the small mom and pop.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Gun I mean, all this stuff.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
I don't know how anybody in their right mind would
want to open a gun store, much less keep on
open here.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Well, I can tell you this. You know, we talked
about this bill being an unfunded mandate on sheriffs, but
truly it's an unfunded mandate on the gun shops too,
because they're going to have to go through a whole
bunch of steps when that person finally, when the when
the customer finally jumps through all the hoops, they get
their their class, they've got their gun card, and they
show up at the gun store. Well, now it's on
the gun store to turn around and say, okay, are
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you in this registry that you're supposed to be in?
You know, it's that's time. That's valuable time that that
gun stores is spending trying to process someone. Oh, by
the way, and when they sell them again, now, they
still got to sit on it for three days and
go through a whole other background check. So we're just
stacking layers and layers of crap on top of one another.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Yeah, there is there a you said there's is there
a six and a half percent AMMO tax on top
of the regular sales tax?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I believe that's Uh. I think that one already went
into effect a few months ago. If I'm not mistaken.
I don't remember the name of the bill.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
We voted that in the amendment.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, Yeah, we voted that in Yeah,
the people of.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Colorado amo out of state.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Well, you know, right, But that's that's what a lot
of people do their guns and AMMO at this point. Now,
So Dean, I appreciate the call.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
They're killing these businesses.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Have a nice day, Thank you, thanks Dean. And uh,
before we run out of time here, we'll kick it
over real quick to Jack and Cheyenne. Jackie, you with us, Steve.
Speaker 9 (26:29):
I think people need to realize that the guns don't
destroy inner cities Democrats do. I mean, it's it's that simple.
And if I was going to vote one gun law,
that gun law would be it's illegal for a Democrat
to have a gun.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I mean, it's just.
Speaker 9 (26:45):
It's just so obvious.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Well, you know, I don't know if I don't know
if political party and gun Yeah, I don't know if
political party and gun ownership are necessarily exclusive to one another.
You know, we had a last time I covered the show,
I had Sheriff Lucero for Pueblo County. He's a Democrat,
He's got a lot of Democrats support down there, and they,
the Democrats in his county were up in arms about
this bill. And in fact, even with the county sheriffs
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of Colorado, which is probably I don't know if it's
a fifty to fifty split, but it's getting pretty close
to that. Of the sixty four sheriffs in the state
of Colorado, there weren't any of them that were in
support of this bill. So, you know, oftentimes it's it's
not every Democrat, but it's the Democrats that are making
the laws at the state House, that's for darn sure.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (27:27):
Well, they're also destroying the city, so that's what they
want to focus on, not the guns.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I couldn't agree with you more on that aspect. The
guns aren't the problem. It's the people that are using
the guns and the legislators who keep on making it
harder and harder for us to get them. Jack appreciate
you listening from Cheyenne. Thanks for calling in. I think
Jack's Jack's done all right, So well again, throw out
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the number here, it's three oh three seven one, three
eight two five five. Call in ask your questions. We
got just a little bit of time left in the show,
or you can text in at five seven three nine.
We'll answer all those questions as best we can and
we'll go to break. Now again, you're listening to Steve
Riams covering the Dan Capless Show here on six thirty KF.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You're back in the last segment of the Dan Kaplas Show.
Sheriff Steve Riams filling in for Dan today. But I
want to go straight to a caller from Pueblo. We
got Jake on the line. He wants to comment about
some gun laws. Jake, what do you got to say?
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Well, the Democrats have been trying to create an in
state gun registry for the longest time.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
They taught my track in our credit card purchases that
what creates a registry, we just outsmarted it. Might just
start paying cash for everything. And now this is another
end around to hopefully create in state gun registries all
the way.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I can see it.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, you know, the bill specifically says that this isn't
for the purposes of making a registry, and they won't
know exactly what gun you buy, but they will know
who's going out and buying a gun. Again, they may
not know the exact model or or or item that
you buy, but they're going to know if you took
the class and have an intent to go buy one.
So and it's all going to be housed by the
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by parks and wildlife. That's that's the.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Other thing about the class. I read the bill a
couple of times. If you take it once, they ever
have If I want to go bast second, semi automatically
or detestable mag no, I have to take the class
a second time.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
No.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Once you take the class and you get your card,
it's good for five years, so you can buy I
guess theoretically as many guns as you want in that
five years. But at the end of that five years,
you got to go renew the card. And it's kind
of silent as to whether or not you have to
take the class again or just renew the card again.
That's one of those gray areas in the bill. I
don't think you'd have to take the class again, but
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you would have to keep the card renewed, is the
way I see it.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
But what do I know, Just a form of a
man registry is. But as far as I'm concerned, and
I hope we can get declared conversational, I.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Agree with you. Jake Hey, thanks for calling in, Thanks
for listening from all the way down there in public.
We appreciate it. So kind of wrapping up the show.
Here a couple more texts. I have to tell you
about this one specifically, it came in from my under sheriff,
who I guess he thinks he's funny. You know, in
the state of Colorado, most sheriff salaries are set by
state statue in Weld County, we have a little different process,
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but my salary is set every four years, and that's
always a point of contention. And my under sheriff currently
makes more money than I do, so he's got the
best job in the agency. But he's encouraging me to
run for governor so that he can be the lieutenant
governor and yet again make more money than me. I
don't even know how to take that. I mean, he's
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been riding my coattails for nine years. Now enough's enough.
And I say that in all fairness, he's a great undershriff.
He does a great job for me, but I'm not
giving him any more of a free ride, so he
can go find his own job when my time is done.
And we did get a text here in support of
Jack says Jack is right, Democrats voted in the Democrats
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to push these laws. I can't agree more that with Jack,
that gun laws should only apply to the Democrats, make
guns illegal for them. And then I got a friend
from up in Wild County, actually a couple of friends
just saying hey, thanks for filling in for Dan today,
asking me if this is going to be my next career,
and I think we're We've got a long ways to
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go before we see that happen. And I think I
think Dan is safe in this seat. I'm not. I
don't think I'm gunning for his position anytime soon. But sure,
do you like filling in? It's a lot of fun
to get a chance to talk with folks and answer
a few text messages and educate folks as to you know,
what's going on out there in the public sphere, and
you know, kind of do something different for the day.
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Excuse me, Ryan before we break for the day. You
know you do you do your show every day? Do
you do you get one feeling that there's a candidate
out there amongst Republicans that is just waiting in the
wings to jump in, because right now I'm not getting
a lot of vibes for the eleven Republicans that have
jumped in. Have you heard of Are you getting a
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feeling that that person's going to jump in there and
change the tide?
Speaker 10 (32:16):
Well, the one and obviously it has a lot to
do with our present forum. But that callers and listeners
am calling for is is Dan Caplis. And you know,
he makes no secret that at one time he was
seriously considering run for high office, in particular the US Senate.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
He had gone to Washington, d C. With Amy, had.
Speaker 10 (32:35):
Been taken in on a tour I believes by John
Cornyan and others introducing him, and I forgot what ultimately
led him to the decision against him. I think it
had to do with his kids, certainly his family, and
it's a big decision. Well absolutely, you know, as you know,
there are people myself included, that would like to see
you run, whether it was governor or something else. And
maybe that'll still happen. But it's not just something you
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declare one day you're going to throw your hat in
the ring, and that's all there is to it.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
That's just the beginning. It's the actual race itself, and.
Speaker 10 (33:03):
You know it's asking a lot of a person and
that person's family, and to answer your question directly, right now,
I don't know that there's a candidate that really breaks through.
I know Greg Lopez announced on my show today that
he is going to reach across the aisle. He's going
to hold town halls. He's going to go and meet
the people where they are, and I think that's a
good start. Any candidate on our set is going to
have a chance has to break through that unaffiliated wall,
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which we have not been able to do.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, you know, and the issues that affect unaffiliated voters
might be a little different than the ones Republicans are
looking at. But I think there's a cross section of
things that every voter in this state has a feeling about,
you know, condition of our roads, fentanyl, you know, education system,
making it fair and accessible to everyone. I mean, I
think if you boil it down to kind of those
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common those common themes that affect every household, you know,
a candidate may resonate a little better. And I think
when you're looking at, you know, primary races, it's always
the idea that the candidate on either side is going
to try to appeal to those to the far right
or far and left and then sometimes can't get back
to the middle for the unaffiliated voter. With that, it's
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been a blast filling in for Dan Caples again. I
look forward to every opportunity I get to do this. Ryan,
thanks for taking care of me on the other side
of the glass. Kelly, thanks for setting up all the
phone calls, and hopefully I'll get a chance to do
this again in the near future. Today we are listening
to the Dan Capleas show being filled in by Steve Raims,
Weld County Sheriff, and we'll see you next time.
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show or an hour
two of the show. And if you're paying any attention,
then you'll know that I am not Dan Caplis. You've
got Steve Reams today, Well County Sheriff filling in and
happy to do so. Dan's out fighting a good fight
on someone else's behalf, I'm sure, but again, it's always
a pleasure to be here and take some calls. Today
we're clearing the decks on a bunch of issues when
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it as it pertains to Senate Bill twenty five Dash three,
the terrible gun law that Governor Polis signed into into
law last Thursday. And with us on the line, we
have Jim from Lamar. He wants to comment about some
of the gun laws that have been coming through the
state of Colorado. Jim, what do you got to say?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well, as an Illinoian who became a Colorado or so,
I'm very depressed I can understand that I've been fighting
these things for a long time and I come here
and have to fight them all over again. And now
we're going to go to court. Rocky Mountain gun Owners
who you just had on they need members, they need support.
(01:19):
There's Colorado Shooting Association out here that are NRA associated.
They need your support, they need members, they need money.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
We've got to go to court.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
NRA. If you're not a life member of the NRA,
what the hell's wrong with you. You've got to become
a member. Okay, Second Amendment Foundation, become a member. Gun
Owners of America, become a member. There's the National Gun
Owners Association here in Loveland. Become a member. Support these guys.
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They're going to get the attorneys to go to court.
We're going to court. It's got to be fought in
the courts. Unfortunately, this new thing isn't going to be
fought until it actually passes in all six August. But
we're paying an extra six percent, which is illegal. Sure,
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so and as Ian said, they got like ten more
gun laws that they're passing or have passed that have
to be fought. I can't believe I came to this
state and have to put up with this. I keep
being told all it's all the Californians. I'm sorry, I
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don't think it is.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I don't know who to blame it on at
this point other than laying it at the feet of
the legislature and the governor who signed it, and the
governor before hid that signed the same bad gun bills.
I mean, this state's been been on a downward trend
when it comes to gun rights for quite some time,
but the last couple of years have definitely it's been
like we're on steroids for bad gun legislation. Jim, I'm
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sorry that your experience from moving to Oregon to Colorado
just like is a repeat. I'll tell you my experience
is from moving from Texas to here, and you know,
I oftentimes say, well, I don't know if that was
the best decision in the world when it comes to
my gun rights, because in Texas they still believe in
the Second Amendment, unlike here in Colorado. But Jim, thanks
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for the phone call, and we really appreciate you calling in.
I want to get to a few of the texts too.
We've got a whole bunch of them coming through this
one here says Sheriff Eames, what do you say to
the residents that are looking to you, as an elected
constitutional law man to do something against what I see
as tyranny by our Democrats ruining this state. They attacked
our kids, our roads, our jobs, our money, Now our
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gun rights. How much more are we going to lose?
This isn't freedom, you know. I think that's a very
poignant text. I think people in this state are getting
pretty fed up. And that leads me back to one
of the other questions I asked at the top of
the show, who do you want to see run for
governor to help try to turn this back around. I
went through a list of eleven names. I'll read them
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off here again. We've got eleven Republican candidates in the
race right now. We've got State Senator Mark Baisley, State
Reps Scott Bottoms, someone named Jason Clark, I don't know
who that is, Bryson Garrison again, I don't know who
that is, Steven Guess, John Gray Ginsburg, Joshua Griffin, Jason
mikes Ol, the sheriff down in Tayler County, Alexander Maguta, Magatta,
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Jim Runberg, and then today we had Greg Lopez jump
into the race. So are any of those names the
thing that you you want to hear so far? I mean,
are those names resonating for you? Or better yet, who
do you not want to see run? You know, I
guess that's a that's maybe a bad question because that
list might be even longer. But are there names on
this list that you rather not see on there? I mean,
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you know some of these people that are running that
just totally excite you and say that's the guy or
that's the person that I want to get behind, Or
is there someone out there sitting on the bench that
you say, this is the person we need to we
need to get into the race. And I'm taking myself
out of that equation, as you know, Ryan's tried to
elude several times. I think, you know, I think that
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it's time for the people in this state to say
we've had enough. We're tired of the attacks on our kids.
We're tired of the attacks on our roads and or
the mismanagement of our roads, our jobs, our money, our
gun rights. Who can bring it back? You know, I'd
love to hear what you have to say. Everybody's texting
and about Center Bill twenty five to three. Not too
many people are throwing in any good positive vibes here
(05:38):
about the governor's race, and I don't think it's a
lost cause. I think with Michael Bennett, the presumptive candidate
on the dim side, I mean again, that's that's boring
on steroids. I mean, the guy is just like I said,
every time he talks it sounds like he's talking through
a yawn and he makes me tired. Going back to
the text that says, dims argue voter idea as a
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poll tax and certain people are too dumb to get
an id'. You hear that quite often, they don't say
it quite that way. Should make the same argument against
Senate Bill twenty five to three if you got to,
you know, we're not smart enough to figure out how
to go get these, so you should just repeal the law.
I guess it says if you ask me, dumb voters
are more dangerous than dumb gun owners. That's probably true,
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which explains a lot of the reasons why we're in
the state that we're in here in our state of Colorado,
here's a very on point question. Can you tell me
what the penalties are for violating any of the provisions
in Senate Bill three, most notably, if you are found
to have acquired a gun without going through all these
new steps and hoops. The first penalty is a Class
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two minut misdemeanor, but a second or subsequent offense becomes
a Class six felony. So if somehow you go out
and obtain a gun without going through this new process
of getting a background check, going to your sheriff's office,
presenting that background check to your sheriff, getting permission with
a card to then go take a class, if you
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don't do all those steps correctly, and somehow you still
obtain a gun, at that point, you could be in
violation of the law as it's written, and you'd face
a class two misdemeanor, or if you do it a
couple of times, class six felony. So that's the best
answer I can give. There's also one other provision in
the bill that if you provide a false statement to
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the sheriff that you're going to go ask for this
card from that too, could also be an issue of perjury,
and I've never seen perjury used in that type of form,
but regardless, that's kind of that's kind of one other
penalty that could be there. I think that would be
a misdemeanor crime. And one other text here says on
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the governor's race, anybody who has the Trump brand is
going to be branded as toxic in Colorado. Any Republican
running for governor will get tagged with that and get
beaten badly. Colorado is just that far left. Please convince
me I'm wrong, and they thank me for my service.
All that being said, you know, I don't know if
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Trump is resonating as poorly in Colorado as he was
maybe prior to his election. You know, some of the
stuff that's going on right now with tariffs make things
a little more questionable. I think people who are looking
at their four oh one k are getting a little
a little antsy. My dad's listening down in Texas. I
know we've had that conversation a couple of times about
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you know, hey, where's my four oh one k going?
And boy, I think certainty in the market is something
that a lot of people look for. But you know,
I don't know if Trump necessarily tears a candidate down,
but he certainly probably doesn't build one up in the
state of Colorado. But who knows. I give it a
couple more weeks, and Trump's capable of just about anything.
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But I want to make sure that we have time
for our next segment. We're going to have Senator Barb
kirk Myron, So we're cut to a break so that
she can get on with us ride at five twenty.
I'm told she has a very tough timeline, but I
want to get a chance to talk with her about
where we're at in the state of Colorado when it
comes to the Joint Budget Committee, which she is a
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big piece of. So we'll cut to break. You're listening
to the Dan Capless Show here on six point thirty
k How was Steve Raams Weld Kenny Sheriff.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Welcome back to the Dan Capless Show. You're listening to
Sheriff Steve Raams stilling end today from up down from
Weld County and bringing in one of the Weld County's
finest state Senator from Senate District twenty three, Barb Kirkmeyer's
on the line with us. Barb, how you doing?
Speaker 6 (09:42):
I am doing pretty good.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I think, well, that's a tough question right where you're at.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Yeah, exactly, it's just been a crazy day.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
But that's okay.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I guess that goes with the job, right, So what's
going on with the state budget? I know that you've
been a fighter going back and forth and kind of
trying to set the state in the right direction. Tells
tell the listeners a little bit about some of the
fights you've been having and kind of where we look
as a state right now.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Sure well, let me just start off first by saying,
we started the year in the hole, the budget year
in the hole, like by one point two billion at
one point. We're in what's called a structural deficit. And
it's not caused because of tabor. It's not caused because
we're in a recession, because we're not. Our economy is
pretty good right now. Quite frankly, it's been caused because
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the General Assembly and the Governor's administration, the executive branch
have just been overspending year over year for like the
last six years. And the overspending got masked by all
of these federal dollars that came in, you know, from COVID.
So we got in all these federal dollars and we
just kept spending them. On things that were supposed to
be one time and then they turned into ongoing and
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that caused this structural deficit that we have. So you
know me as my sheriff, you know me as a
county commissioner, and you know where I sit as a
budget hawk kind of thing, and I'm like, oh my god,
we have we have got to stop spending, and they
just can't help themselves. They just cannot help themselves down here.
So we have a constitutional requirement that we have to
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have a balanced budget, and I keep reminding them all
that means for more than just one day, not just
the day that the governor signs the budget. We really
should have had me a balanced budget, and we need
to control ourselves with spending. So it's just it's been
crazy when the governor who put in his budget request,
and I have to keep reminding him the executive branch
does not write the budget. It's the legislative branch, and
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it's the six members on the Joint Budget Committee that
actually write the budget, of which I'm one of those six.
But when he submitted his budget request back in November,
he comes in front of the Joint Budget Committee to
present it, he left a half hour early because I
was asking him a bunch of questions and ask him
how how I could even take his budget requests.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I find that hard to believe, having presented a budget
in front of the Board of County Commissioners a few times.
But that's great to hear. So, so what kind of
stuff was he throwing in there that you're asking questions about?
Speaker 6 (12:10):
So get this, he had a So we have a
constitutional requirement to fund education a free public school system,
and then also to increase that funding year over year
again in our constitution by inflation for the total program.
He came in with a one hundred and fifty million dollars
cut to education.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well that doesn't sound very pro education.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Yeah, exactly, and it's not. And then he also came
in with cutting Medicaid, like, let's cut medicaid, and it
was probably close to about one hundred to one hundred
and twenty million dollars worth of cut to medicaid at least,
and you know, and then in the meantime, after you know,
Trump gets elected and we're in doing hearings and stuff,
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all I've heard is how Trump's going to cut medicaid.
What are you talking about? The governor wants to cut
Medicaid and I have to fight to get it act.
So those are two of our most critical programs, you know,
those programs that we fund, those that just you know,
they can't do things for themselves. And we need to
fund medicaid and we need to fund it, and we
have to fund education. And in his November first budget request,
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he didn't want to fund education. He didn't fund medicaid fully,
he didn't fund higher education fully, and he cut healthcare
as well. So I'm like, seriously, why why do I
take this budget request seriously? Because he also had in
there that he wanted to fund a new ticket booth
at the States there, that we should fund additional like
landscaping around the Capitol, and that we should build a
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bridge from and I know that sounds funny, build a
bridge from the Capital grounds across Broadway and Lincoln over
to Civic Center Park.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
In Denver, the homeless, mental homeless.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
People, right.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
No, he wanted to put his name on it so
that it would be there for you know, twenty twenty six,
when we turn one hundred and fifty years old in
this state. So it's stuff like that. I'm like, it's
just crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So that with the at the end of DOGE at
the at the national level and kind of all the
stuff that you're hearing, you know, the terrible spending being found.
It sounds like you're kind of the Doge committee in
a lot of ways. For the state budget. What was
the most out of line thing that you saw? The
request for the bridge sounds like it might be on there,
but I mean, where was the most egregious funding request
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that you saw in the In the governor's.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Proposal, I would say, and it wasn't a filianus proposal,
but it was buried in all the stuff that you know,
all the things that are funded down here, all the
cash funds and the general fund. It's the second salary
for the lieutenant governor. Now, granted, i'm talking about when
we're talking about one point two billion dollars shortfall, I'm
talking about in the general fund operating budget, which is
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not our forty six billion dollar budget because that includes
federal funds and cash funds. But our general fund operating
budget is around, you know, anywhere from eighteen to twenty
billion dollars depending on you look on it. But let's
just say it's eighteen billion dollars and we had to
cut one point two billion, and we have all of
these cash funds, we have all these offices and programs
that are already in place, and it's really really I
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have to go back and dig I mean, you remember
when I was as Acount Commissioner, we would do that
strategic budgeting and y'all would go through your budgets and say, hey,
here's where we can cut, here's where we don't need
this program. It's past as time. Men, they don't do that.
I mean, I try to get the executive branch to
do that, and they just like stare at me, and
you know, and then I have to be more firm
as you know I can be. But so so in
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the Governor's office is Lieutenant Governor's office, and within that
we have this other office called the Office of Saving
People Money, which is just a total joke.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
But she gets.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Paid an additional seventy five thousand dollars on top of
her salary that she's going down as lieutenant governor.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
What's the salary for the lieutenant governor's the what's the
primary salary?
Speaker 6 (15:56):
I think it's ninety or ninety three thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's so if you can get it.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah, so she's do what she should.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Be doing as lieutenant governor in the first place. So
I just think that's appalling to me. And why as
a lieutenant governor, why doesn't she just give that up?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
No kidding first deficit?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So did that get cut out or is she still
taking that salary? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Still she's still taking the additional salary. We tried to.
I tried to get it amended out and take care
of it during the budget process with a Joint Budget
Committee to noevel and even during the long bill process
on the Senate floor, Senator Pelton had an amendment to
try and get rid of that. And the answer is no.
I mean it's in law, so we have to actually
repill that section of law. And we can't get them to.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Repill it, of course not. Why would they do anything
that makes sense and actually save the states and money.
We got just a couple of minutes left, Barb. Is
there anything else you want to cover that isn't budget related?
I know you've got a lot of stuff going on
down there. Is there something that the listeners need to
really tune into it and have their radar.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
On for I would say, tune into and have your
for its House bill. I think it's twelve thirteen thirteen
twelve thirteen or thirteen twelve thirteen twelve. This is just
an outrageous bill to me, it's attacking our constitutional rights.
But moreover, it just feels like to me that there
are certain Democrats down here across the aisle, even though
(17:18):
I've got friends across the aisle, but there are other
Democrats that really it feels like they've just declared war
on parents. I mean, they're going after parents, trying to
figure out how to take their children away from them
and cutty cases, and it is just way out of line.
And I think that would be a bill that hopefully,
you know, I mean, if I haven't heard from every
parents in the state by now, you know, please don't
(17:40):
send me anymore emails. But I understand my colleagues across
the aisle to let them know that, you know, parents
are the ones who should be raising their children. We
shouldn't be interjecting in between a parent's ability to raise
their child and take care of their child in the
best interest of the child versus you know, basically saying
that if you call your child by their given name
(18:03):
at birth and they don't want to be called that
that you could be taken up X be cohersive, and
you could lose custody of your child in a custody case.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
We got a heart we got a heartbreak. But thanks
for being on with us, thanks for educating us about
the budget, and we look forward to having you on again.
If you're listening to the Dan Caplis Show on six
point thirty KHW.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You're back with the Dan Kaplis Show yet Steve reims Well,
Kundy Sheriff setting in today and covering the show while
Dan's out doing some really important stuff. But at the
top of the show, the top of the hour, I
ask people, who do you want to see run for governor?
You know, we've got eleven candidates in the race now
by my last counting. Greg Lopez made his announcement today.
I think this is his third time, maybe third times
(18:52):
a charm, But I've been asking you guys, who do
you want to see ron? And then also, since I
happen to be the sheriff up in Weld County, if
you have any questions about Cenebill twenty five to three
that maybe I can answer call in, ask your question.
We'll talk about both topics. But before we get to
the calls, just want to read a couple of texts here,
And this one's pretty much on point, and I'm guessing
(19:14):
our first caller is going to agree with this. It says,
quit worrying about Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, enough about Trump,
steer the narratives of those unpopular policies, and start talking
about Colorado. Every time someone says, but Trump, there's a
lot of truth there. I mean, I think Republican candidates
tend to get caught in the cycle of saying yeah,
you know, trying to defend Trump instead of just turn
(19:35):
around and talking about the meat and potatoes of what's
going on. A couple other texts says there's a lot
of gray areas in this new gun law. That's the
understatement of the day. And then Michael Bennett is entirely
beatable with the right person hitting all the right notes.
They believe Bennett's superpower might be putting people to sleep.
And then we have one text in here, Dan for Governor,
(19:56):
which I totally support, but I don't know that he'd
USh With that being said, if this is the Joe
from Marveda, I think it is. I'm guessing we're going
to hear some stuff about Trump, So we'll go to
that call first.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Joe, you on line with absolutely, Hey, hey, absolutely, First,
you know what you talk about Michael Bennett. This might
be a little before your time, but did you ever
see their movie Fast Time at Rich Month High?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Absolutely? Are we talking about speccoli Pacoli?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Michael Bennett. It's Poli. He's not as fun though, well no,
he's not as fun, but he sounds like him.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah he does, he does. Yeah, it's bad, it's bad.
So what do you think about the Republicans having a
chance in the state. Who's our who's our candidate going
to be? And is there anybody in the race now
that excite you?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Well? This was this was more. This was more gun related.
I mean, yeah, go ahead, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a
veteran and I'm a like member of the n r A,
and you know it is time for Republicans to point
out how, pardon me, how bad Democrat policies of gun
(21:06):
control are. Sure, because look at look look at Chicago.
They had like the most restrictive gun laws there are right,
And how's that? How's the crime there?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Right? It's working out great? Right? I mean, if you
if you.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Want to look gun laws, gun laws or restrict you
and I because we abide by law, do they restrict
you know, criminals? It just it just blows my mind.
I just oh, it makes my blood boil.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well, Joe, I understand where you're at. And I think
you know you can't have one conversation without without having
the other. How do we get here? How do we
have all these restrictive gun laws in the states Because
we keep electing and we keep allowing Democrats to get
elected in this state. We don't have a united message
behind a good candidate for governor. We haven't for quite
some time. I don't know if one of these candidates
(21:59):
in the race is going to do that, but uh,
we got to get there. I mean, at some point,
I think the people in this state that aren't died
in the world Democrats are going to say, Okay, enough's enough.
And just like Trump won the country back, I think
someone can win this state back. And I don't know
if that person's in the race yet. I don't know
if that person's waiting in the wings, But Uh, you know. Uh,
that's the way I see it. So Joe, thanks.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Can add to that. You said we elect I didn't
elect them.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
No, I get I say we collected it.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I know, I know, I understand, I understand.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I've never checked it, never checked a D on my
ballot either, So U Joe, thanks again, We appreciate it.
Get to a couple more texts here and then we'll uh,
we'll get to our next caller. This one is a
little confusing for me. It says, if you find yourself
defending your your family and your own home, you're forced
to shoot. I guess someone who's breaking in and the
(22:56):
gun you grabbed in the emergency is quote unquote illegal. Well,
but the shooting itself would be justified. How does that
play out in the courts? And what I would say is,
if you already own the gun, you've already got it
in your house. You didn't acquire it illegally. This bill
does nothing to the guns you already owned. So if
you're using a gun to defend you and your family
inside your home, you don't need to worry about Senate
(23:17):
Bill IREI. Now, if you've gone out and acquired that
gun somehow in violation of this law. You know, I'd
say I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by
six any given days. So if it comes down to
protecting your family, I think that's what you probably should do.
It looks like we got Dean from Ourvada on the line.
He wants to comment on gun laws. Dean, are you
(23:38):
with us?
Speaker 8 (23:40):
Yes, sir, Yeah. We found out last summer. I guess
it was that prosecutors can basically prosecute anybody, including Donald Trump,
for pretty much anything. That is, when it comes down
to these gun laws, there's so much gray area. You
get the wrong crosster, he's gonna go after you, and
(24:02):
you're just gonna ask for mercy because you know, the
prosecutor's got a lot more money to go after you
than you can defend yourself.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Most in most places, except.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
For you know, like Donald Trump, he has had a
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, he could five back a little bit. Yeah. You know,
you make a good point there, when you when you
write a bill, it has so much gray area in
it that leaves so much for the imagination, if you will.
The devil's in the details, and when the details aren't there,
someone can make them up and kind of twist the
bill to their own liking. Oh, I totally see where
you're coming from.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
Like a sheriff like you, Yeah, sheriff like you is
probably gonna say, look, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna,
you know, use this against you. But you get the
wrong sharef for the wrong prosecutor, and you're just playing
like mercy. Now, I'm like, please please give me a
misdemeanor instead of a felony. You know, it's it's it's
crazy how this works. I just I think in the
(24:56):
gun laws are going to chill the small mom and pop.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Gun I mean, all this stuff.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
I don't know how anybody in their right mind would
want to open a gun store, much less keep on
open here.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Well, I can tell you this. You know, we talked
about this bill being an unfunded mandate on sheriffs, but
truly it's an unfunded mandate on the gun shops too,
because they're going to have to go through a whole
bunch of steps when that person finally, when the when
the customer finally jumps through all the hoops, they get
their their class, they've got their gun card, and they
show up at the gun store. Well, now it's on
the gun store to turn around and say, okay, are
(25:29):
you in this registry that you're supposed to be in?
You know, it's that's time. That's valuable time that that
gun stores is spending trying to process someone. Oh, by
the way, and when they sell them again, now, they
still got to sit on it for three days and
go through a whole other background check. So we're just
stacking layers and layers of crap on top of one another.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Yeah, there is there a you said there's is there
a six and a half percent AMMO tax on top
of the regular sales tax?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I believe that's Uh. I think that one already went
into effect a few months ago. If I'm not mistaken.
I don't remember the name of the bill.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
We voted that in the amendment.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, Yeah, we voted that in Yeah,
the people of.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Colorado amo out of state.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Well, you know, right, But that's that's what a lot
of people do their guns and AMMO at this point. Now,
So Dean, I appreciate the call.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
They're killing these businesses.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Have a nice day, Thank you, thanks Dean. And uh,
before we run out of time here, we'll kick it
over real quick to Jack and Cheyenne. Jackie, you with us, Steve.
Speaker 9 (26:29):
I think people need to realize that the guns don't
destroy inner cities Democrats do. I mean, it's it's that simple.
And if I was going to vote one gun law,
that gun law would be it's illegal for a Democrat
to have a gun.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I mean, it's just.
Speaker 9 (26:45):
It's just so obvious.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Well, you know, I don't know if I don't know
if political party and gun Yeah, I don't know if
political party and gun ownership are necessarily exclusive to one another.
You know, we had a last time I covered the show,
I had Sheriff Lucero for Pueblo County. He's a Democrat,
He's got a lot of Democrats support down there, and they,
the Democrats in his county were up in arms about
this bill. And in fact, even with the county sheriffs
(27:09):
of Colorado, which is probably I don't know if it's
a fifty to fifty split, but it's getting pretty close
to that. Of the sixty four sheriffs in the state
of Colorado, there weren't any of them that were in
support of this bill. So, you know, oftentimes it's it's
not every Democrat, but it's the Democrats that are making
the laws at the state House, that's for darn sure.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (27:27):
Well, they're also destroying the city, so that's what they
want to focus on, not the guns.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I couldn't agree with you more on that aspect. The
guns aren't the problem. It's the people that are using
the guns and the legislators who keep on making it
harder and harder for us to get them. Jack appreciate
you listening from Cheyenne. Thanks for calling in. I think
Jack's Jack's done all right, So well again, throw out
(27:52):
the number here, it's three oh three seven one, three
eight two five five. Call in ask your questions. We
got just a little bit of time left in the show,
or you can text in at five seven three nine.
We'll answer all those questions as best we can and
we'll go to break. Now again, you're listening to Steve
Riams covering the Dan Capless Show here on six thirty KF.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You're back in the last segment of the Dan Kaplas Show.
Sheriff Steve Riams filling in for Dan today. But I
want to go straight to a caller from Pueblo. We
got Jake on the line. He wants to comment about
some gun laws. Jake, what do you got to say?
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Well, the Democrats have been trying to create an in
state gun registry for the longest time.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
They taught my track in our credit card purchases that
what creates a registry, we just outsmarted it. Might just
start paying cash for everything. And now this is another
end around to hopefully create in state gun registries all
the way.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I can see it.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, you know, the bill specifically says that this isn't
for the purposes of making a registry, and they won't
know exactly what gun you buy, but they will know
who's going out and buying a gun. Again, they may
not know the exact model or or or item that
you buy, but they're going to know if you took
the class and have an intent to go buy one.
So and it's all going to be housed by the
(29:11):
by parks and wildlife. That's that's the.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Other thing about the class. I read the bill a
couple of times. If you take it once, they ever
have If I want to go bast second, semi automatically
or detestable mag no, I have to take the class
a second time.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
No.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Once you take the class and you get your card,
it's good for five years, so you can buy I
guess theoretically as many guns as you want in that
five years. But at the end of that five years,
you got to go renew the card. And it's kind
of silent as to whether or not you have to
take the class again or just renew the card again.
That's one of those gray areas in the bill. I
don't think you'd have to take the class again, but
(29:47):
you would have to keep the card renewed, is the
way I see it.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
But what do I know, Just a form of a
man registry is. But as far as I'm concerned, and
I hope we can get declared conversational, I.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Agree with you. Jake Hey, thanks for calling in, Thanks
for listening from all the way down there in public.
We appreciate it. So kind of wrapping up the show.
Here a couple more texts. I have to tell you
about this one specifically, it came in from my under sheriff,
who I guess he thinks he's funny. You know, in
the state of Colorado, most sheriff salaries are set by
state statue in Weld County, we have a little different process,
(30:24):
but my salary is set every four years, and that's
always a point of contention. And my under sheriff currently
makes more money than I do, so he's got the
best job in the agency. But he's encouraging me to
run for governor so that he can be the lieutenant
governor and yet again make more money than me. I
don't even know how to take that. I mean, he's
(30:45):
been riding my coattails for nine years. Now enough's enough.
And I say that in all fairness, he's a great undershriff.
He does a great job for me, but I'm not
giving him any more of a free ride, so he
can go find his own job when my time is done.
And we did get a text here in support of
Jack says Jack is right, Democrats voted in the Democrats
(31:06):
to push these laws. I can't agree more that with Jack,
that gun laws should only apply to the Democrats, make
guns illegal for them. And then I got a friend
from up in Wild County, actually a couple of friends
just saying hey, thanks for filling in for Dan today,
asking me if this is going to be my next career,
and I think we're We've got a long ways to
(31:28):
go before we see that happen. And I think I
think Dan is safe in this seat. I'm not. I
don't think I'm gunning for his position anytime soon. But sure,
do you like filling in? It's a lot of fun
to get a chance to talk with folks and answer
a few text messages and educate folks as to you know,
what's going on out there in the public sphere, and
you know, kind of do something different for the day.
(31:51):
Excuse me, Ryan before we break for the day. You
know you do you do your show every day? Do
you do you get one feeling that there's a candidate
out there amongst Republicans that is just waiting in the
wings to jump in, because right now I'm not getting
a lot of vibes for the eleven Republicans that have
jumped in. Have you heard of Are you getting a
(32:12):
feeling that that person's going to jump in there and
change the tide?
Speaker 10 (32:16):
Well, the one and obviously it has a lot to
do with our present forum. But that callers and listeners
am calling for is is Dan Caplis. And you know,
he makes no secret that at one time he was
seriously considering run for high office, in particular the US Senate.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
He had gone to Washington, d C. With Amy, had.
Speaker 10 (32:35):
Been taken in on a tour I believes by John
Cornyan and others introducing him, and I forgot what ultimately
led him to the decision against him. I think it
had to do with his kids, certainly his family, and
it's a big decision. Well absolutely, you know, as you know,
there are people myself included, that would like to see
you run, whether it was governor or something else. And
maybe that'll still happen. But it's not just something you
(32:56):
declare one day you're going to throw your hat in
the ring, and that's all there is to it.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
That's just the beginning. It's the actual race itself, and.
Speaker 10 (33:03):
You know it's asking a lot of a person and
that person's family, and to answer your question directly, right now,
I don't know that there's a candidate that really breaks through.
I know Greg Lopez announced on my show today that
he is going to reach across the aisle. He's going
to hold town halls. He's going to go and meet
the people where they are, and I think that's a
good start. Any candidate on our set is going to
have a chance has to break through that unaffiliated wall,
(33:25):
which we have not been able to do.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, you know, and the issues that affect unaffiliated voters
might be a little different than the ones Republicans are
looking at. But I think there's a cross section of
things that every voter in this state has a feeling about,
you know, condition of our roads, fentanyl, you know, education system,
making it fair and accessible to everyone. I mean, I
think if you boil it down to kind of those
(33:47):
common those common themes that affect every household, you know,
a candidate may resonate a little better. And I think
when you're looking at, you know, primary races, it's always
the idea that the candidate on either side is going
to try to appeal to those to the far right
or far and left and then sometimes can't get back
to the middle for the unaffiliated voter. With that, it's
(34:08):
been a blast filling in for Dan Caples again. I
look forward to every opportunity I get to do this. Ryan,
thanks for taking care of me on the other side
of the glass. Kelly, thanks for setting up all the
phone calls, and hopefully I'll get a chance to do
this again in the near future. Today we are listening
to the Dan Capleas show being filled in by Steve Raims,
Weld County Sheriff, and we'll see you next time.
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