Rep. Jeff Hurd (R, CO-3) joins Dan to discuss the ongoing fiery L.A. anti-ICE riots and the status of President Trump's 'Big, Beautiful Bill' and its implications for constituents in his 3rd Congressional District.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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American way itself which is at stake today, and I
hope you'd take a second and to appreciate the magnitude
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of the moment we're living through right now. I know
life's fast and twenty four to seven news cycle, this
is not like every other story. This is, in the
words of Joe Biden back in the day when he
could formulate sentences, a big blanket deal. What's going on
right now. What's going on right now threatens the very
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existence of the modern Democratic Party. It's not a threat
to the United States of America because Donald Trump's president
and Donald Trump is dealing very decisively with what would
otherwise be a real threat to the United States of America.
It's a threat that's been growing for a long time.
It's a threat that has gone beyond a danger to
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becoming reality. And the threat I'm talking about is insurrection
because what's happened is you've had this insurrection accepted by
political elites and the media elites. You've had this growing insurrection,
this acceptance of insurrection on the part of many many leftists,
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many elected leftists, one of whom I mean Mayor Mike
Johnston in Denver, right, who openly called for insurrection against
the federal government on immigration. And i'll play some of
that sound in a second. It did not age well
for the mayor. But that's what's been happening as you've
had the left and whether it's you know Polis or
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Johnston or picture lefty from around the country, they've been
carving out that they've been carving out this separate nation,
or to be more precise, they've been separating themselves from
the United States of America when it comes to immigration.
And they've been really double middle finger in your face
about it and openly defying the federal government's sole and
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exclusive immigration powers. And so that's one reason, big reason
Trump won twice. And now it's coming to a head
starting in LA. But it's not limited to LA. Very
very vivid example here in fact, here's Kyle Clark reporting
on it Beck last November when we were all over.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
This Denver mayor Mike Johnson is walking back his comments
suggesting Denver police would somehow try to stop a mass
deportation by federal forces. If the mayor says he expects
the people of Denver would resist, and he says he
would too, even if it means.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Going to jail. So just open insurrection.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The mayor of a city is going to use police
power to fight the Feds, try to stop the Feds
from enforcing federal law, and then call on the people
as he did, to come out in large numbers, tens
of thousands, comparing it to Tenemin's where to try I
try to stop the federal government from enforcing federal law.
That's an insurrection. There is no doubt that's an insurrection.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
But you see it here.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
You see it here in other ways as well, many
things Polish and other lefties have done legislatively and otherwise.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
But you see it also on display in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
So that's why this is such an enormously important moment,
because we were very rapidly moving toward a point where
it was becoming accepted in America as the new normal
that that federal law would not apply. Federal law would
not apply where the left did not want it to apply.
And obviously we cannot stay remain a nation for long
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that way, But that's what they were carving out in
the most vivid example being immigration, illegal immigration in particular
three or three s one, three eight, two five five,
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Love your thoughts, And the reason I started the show
at the point that that the threat right now is
not to the United States of Americans to the Democratic
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Party is because that's true again with Donald Trump in charge,
there's no real threat to the United States of America
right now because he is going to defeat that and
there's a great opportunity for the United States of America
cross party line. So all people who love this nation
and the Constitution and want to see us function as
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a constitutional republic should welcome this moment because it really
takes somebody of clear mind and vision and strength like
Trump to just draw the bright line and say no,
we are going to enforce the Constitution and have the
guts to do it. And that's what the President's doing.
So this is a great opportunity for all constitution loving
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Americans across party lines. The reason it's an existential threat
to the existence of the Democratic Party is that this
far left, radical, secular Democratic party that's emerged right now
stands for this insurrection. It is what they are all about.
They are deeply, deeply committed to it. And here's the
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problem now that Trump is confronting them in a very
visible way. Every single contested election at the federal level
across Americans, some beneath the federal level, obviously mayor's races.
It should now become a referendum on whether Americans want
to elect somebody who's going to be an insurrectionist, and
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that includes a John Higgenlooper, that includes Michael Bennett. Do
you want to elect an insurrectionist or do you want
to elect somebody who is.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Not an insurrectionist.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I mean, that is the stark choice because in their
own very concrete ways, pick your lefty right, no matter
what the wrapping is, no matter what the package is.
Take a higgin loop Er, take a Benet, take a Polish,
take any of them.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Please couldn't resist.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But what you get there, what you get there is
some buddy who is openly defiant of federal authority on immigration.
Look at all this stuff they've done in Colorado, to
thwart the federal government's enforcement of immigration law. And they're
so bold that Mike Johnston, the mayor, would stand up
and say, I'm going to send the cops out to
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stop them. I'm going to round up fifty thousand people
from Denver to stop them. That's how emboldened they are
on this.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So that's a choice.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
This US Senate racing Colorado is governor's racing Colorado. Do
you want to elect an insurrectionist, Okay, elect Bennett or Wiser.
The Senate race you want to elect an insurrectionist, Okay,
you elect ticking Looper. But but these races should come
down to a choice of the people. Do you want
to elect somebody who is going to enforce federal law
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and immigration or elect somebody who's going to be an
insurrectionist when it comes to federal immigration law three or
three someone three eight two five five The number takes
da N five seven seventy three nine. That's what do
you think that people would vote on that? Young Ryan,
let's say that is the ballot issue. Do you want
federal immigration law enforced in Colorado or not enforced in Colorado?
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What do you think that? Yes, no question?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
What are the numbers on that.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
In Colorado, the Great State of Colorado, not as good
as they would be nationally, but still an overwhelming majority,
and that bears out in the polling, as Harry Bentine
of CNN has pointed out.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
And I know we have that sound either for now
or for later, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yes, yes, you're so subtle, Ryan, Your subtlety sometimes just
blows me away. And I really do want to get
to that. It's fascinating stuff and it confirms what we
would think, right, but it supports what I was saying
to start the show, which is right here in Colorado.
Every one of these races should be brought back to
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do you want federal immigration law enforced or not? Because
that is a clear, stark choice, and nobody can honestly
dispute the fact that the Democrats do not want it enforced.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
You know, if we just take a look at the
baseline numbers here, this is Trump's net approval rating on immigration.
It's gone up like a rocket compared now versus eight
years ago. During Trump's first term, look at this, and
his first term Trump was way way way under water
at minus twenty one points. But look at this, He's
up over twenty points now in the aggregate. He is
in positive territory at plus one point on his net
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approval rating. Some other polls even have it a little
bit higher than that. There is no issue on which
Trump is doing so much better than he was in
his first term more than the issue of immigration. No
wonder The Times has written up the way that he is.
Trump is begging for a fight on this because he
knows what he's doing so far is working with the
American elector.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, but why is it working? Drilled down to that,
why is it working?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's not because of great marketing or messaging or quote
framing or any of that garbage. No, it's working because
America has reached a tipping point in that Americans get
it now that that each and every one of us
knows some truly great people who are here illegally or
came here illegally in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But that's not the point.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
The point is a nation cannot survive mass illegal immigration.
It cannot survive on any level despite how many good
people we know who've come here illegally, because along with
the good people, you're going to get a lot of
bad people. But you're also going to get an overwhelming
of resources and a fractured nation. The visuals coming out
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of Los Angeles right now typify it. It has nothing
to do with race, nothing to do with skin color.
It has to do with we have a nation, and
we have laws, and if we're going to allow unlimited
mass illegal immigration from anywhere, that nation.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Is going to cease to exist. Here on the Dan.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Caplas Show, and now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
God rest, So.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
What a voter see in terms of their perception of Republicans,
the president or Democrats, se Gavenusom on this issue. Yeah,
the American electorate believed that the Democrats don't have a
clue on the issue of immigration. I mean, you could
just take it here closer to trust Moore and immigration.
Democrats versus Republicans. Got three different polls for you across
the board. They all tell the same story. Republicans lead
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on the issue of immigration. You see it here CBS
plus six, You see it here at CNN plus six.
You see it here IPSOS even bigger plus nineteen. No
matter what poll you look at, no matter which way
you cut it, the American public is with the Republicans.
The American public is with Donald Trump, and to a
much greater extent than they were in term number one.
And it's not just on the broad issue of immigration.
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It's on the specifics as well in which the American
public is with Donald Trump and the Republicans. And that
is why Donald Trump is eager to take on this
fight and eager for those scenes at a Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, in an existential threat to Democrats as we go
to the phone line, including in Colorado. And I know
Colorado's one of the toughest nuts to crack, but simple
question for the Senate race, for the governors, I saw
other races as well. Do you want immigration law enforced
or not? That's your choice on this ballot, No matter
whose names appear, that's your choice on this ballot. Let's
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go to a Larkspur, Colorado. A beautiful day there. I'm
sure Steve, you're on the Dan Kaplas show.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Welcome, Hi there, Dan.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Listen your opinion?
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Does Trump have legal standing to arrest Newsom and Bass?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
And if he.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Does, do you support that if he were to do that?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
He does not, he does not, but he certainly has
legal standing to be calling in the seven hundred Marines
that he is, depending upon how they're deployed.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
And I'll get specific.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Certainly has legal standing to be nationalizing the State of
California National Guard under these circumstances, very solid legal grounds. Steve,
you seem disappointed or maybe just a bad cell connection.
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Hopefully we'll get our friend Steve back and I'll elaborate,
and I want to get other callers in.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And Littleton, you're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Dan, how are you today?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I'm living the dream? How about you?
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Beautiful day, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Oh man?
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Heyre's here's what I see. You know, when it comes
specifically to Colorado, I'm a red hornet living in a
blue horn's nest, and you.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Know that's blood.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Yeah, very tough thing to overcome. And what this nation?
You know, I don't have to go back and beat
the dead horse. I think it's pretty obvious what we've
seen happen over the years is a loud minority has
you know, got the upper hand for a while on
the silent majority, and we're going to go through a
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very tough period correcting things, and we've got to start
enforcing our laws. And the best analogy that I see
is this nation's going to kind of go through an exorcism.
It's going to be ugly. There's gonna be a lot
of screaming, there's going to be a lot of name calling,
and it's going to be tumultuous.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
But sounds like talk great.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
Yeah, but I'd rather do it now. Let's let's get
it done. Let's get through this, you know, because if
we continue to go down this path not enforcing our
laws and the Democrats picking and choosing what they want
to enforce and what they don't want to enforce, we
no longer have a nation. That's what the legal system is,
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what has kept this nation going. And you know, we've
got we've got the little anarchists out there that you know,
they have nothing better to do in their life, and
so you know, anarchy gives them a little something to do.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And talking about Mike Johnston.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Yeah, yeah, I'm serious.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I'm serious.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I mean, when Mike Johnston calls says he's going to
send the Denver police out to take on the FED
so they can't enforce federal law, calls for tens of
thousands of Denver rights to take to the streets to
stop the Feds at that's worse than any ANTIFA punk.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Yeah, you're you're, you're, You're absolutely right, because you know,
if if Mike Johnson Ton wants to if he wants
to protect the immigrants and protectcise me the illegal immigrants,
he needs to just and he needs to resign his
position and realize he was put in the office to
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protect the American citizens. If he has other aspirations, he
needs to resign his positions and go find that calling
in life that he but in his position, the American
his number one job is to protect the people here
in Denver, protect people, you know, and thank you, and
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I do apologize.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Got to pop this break, but Mick Johnston did not
hide it, by the way, Mike Johnston well until after
the election. Johnston came out in his inaugural address and
we'll put that sound up and he said, we will
get you a home. He was telling the world come
to Denver and we will get you a home. And
he has been delivering on that. He's been using taxpayer dollars. Okay,
you cut all these other services, defund the police, meaning
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lesson police funding, etc. In order to buy those homes
and provide those hotel rooms and provide those accommodations. From
people coming to Denver from all over the world to
take Mike Johnston up on his promise to we will.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Get you a home.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
They're doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
But what I want to see is is I want
to see Mike Johnston's tax returns. I want to see
if Mike Johnston is spending any of his money on this.
We know, no matter whose money he's spending, it's very
bad for Denver. But is he spending any of his
own money on this? He claims to care so much,
it's so heartfelt from him, right the quote newcomers, let's
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see it.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Let's see the checkbook.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Mike, how much of your own family money have you
donated to quote the newcomers versus how much of other
people's money? Let's see it. Same for Hickenlooper, same for Bennett.
Three oh three seven one three eight two five five.
The number tags d A N five seven seven at
three nine. I mean, that's what it's really coming down to,
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is a choice on the Colorado ballot and elsewhere are
you going to vote for an insurrectionist? Because every one
of these lefties who stands for opposing the federal government
enforcing federal immigration law, that's that's.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
What they are in spirit.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Now, whether they rise to the level of being a
legally prosecutable insurrectionist, no different question.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
But when you've got Mike Johnston.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Talking talking to but let's play that Kyle Clark story again,
talking about sending the law enforcement out to fight the Fed,
stop the Feds the border and putting tens of thousands
of Colorado's into the street. Yeah, now you're at least
having the conversation about whether it's criminal insurrection. When I
talk about insurrection and these people be an insurrectionist, I'm
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talking about the spirit of it. What they're actually trying
to accomplish, to thwart the federal government from enforcing federal law.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Denver Mayor Mike Johnson is walking back his comments suggesting
Denver police would somehow try to stop a mass deportation
by federal forces if the mayor says he expects the
people of Denver would resist, and he says he would too,
even if it means going to jail.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Is that anything other than a flat out insurrectionist? Can
somebody explain that to me? Again, I'm not I don't
do criminal law. I do catastrophic injury work, so I
can't tell you whether that stuff's criminally prosecutable. If it's not,
it should be. But I'm just talking about reality. Are
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you electing an insurrectionist? Are you electing somebody who is
determined to stop the federal government from enforcing federal law.
So that's a very bad spot that Democrats find themselves
in right now nationally, that's what they're identified with, that
they're identified with trying to separate from the federal government
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when it comes to immigration or any other federal laws
they don't like. And then God Trump has stepped up
to say, no, we're one nation. We're one nation under God.
We have one constitution and we're going to live by
the law of the land. If you don't like the law,
change it. But to the polices and Johnston's and Bennett's
and Hickenloopers and all these other lefties that Karen Basses
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and newsoms who say, no, we're going to take the
federal money, but then we're going to operate the way
we want to double middle finger to federal law.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
No, those days must come to an end. You're on
the Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast Urder Rule
to gage, but gerally, see what happens if we think
it is serious insurrection.
Speaker 9 (19:08):
For less than that, we're.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Gonna have a long hard Urian for how we define
in any direction.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
You have to really just have.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
To look at the side. You have to see what's happening.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
Last night in Los Angeles we watched the Dredge Plusley.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
There was a lot of violence there.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
There was a lot of violence that it could have
gotten much worse.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
You have an incompetence govern it.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Just take a look at the at the train stations
that he's building, like twenty times over, budd that nobody's
ever seen as they like.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
And tell I did call him the other night. I said, look,
you got to take care of this.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Otherwise I'm sending.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
In the troop.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
That's what we do.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, insurrection, you know when you see it right, and
it's a little more precise and illegally, but certainly a
violent uprising against federal authority.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, that's an insurrection.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
And remember Trump has these powers, he has these to
federalize a state national guard, you know, when you're facing
civil unrest. It was done during the riots following the
acquittal of the officers who had been involved with Rodney King,
remember that back in LA So yeah, and we're talking
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about a couple of different critters here, but the bottom
line is that the president certainly does have that kind
of power under certain circumstances, including the Rodney King verdict, riots,
and certainly here where you're trying to enforce federal immigration
law and you have people violently rising up against that
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to try to stop it. Yeah, that's textbook. There's no
gray area there. And in terms of the Marines, yeah,
you cannot in a situation like this, and you wouldn't
want to right use the Marines against people just protesting
out in the streets, etc. Or to maintain order in
that circumstance.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
That's not the point.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
But you can certainly use the Marines to protect federal facilities,
you know, use the Marines to facilitate the movement of
other federal government law enforcement officers, including ice, that kind
of thing. But you won't see the Marines involved in
keeping the peace at protests, for example, that will be
federalized state national guards. So three or three someone three
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eight two five five the number text D eight and
five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Love your thoughts on all of this. If you've just
joined us. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I really do think that this is a particularly important
day or or time or series of days in America,
and that very, very good things are going to come
from this because we've been moving so steadily toward a
separation of state and federal government of in particular left
leaning or very leftist mayors, governors, et cetera, as we've
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seen in Colorado simply defying the Feds, and and that
is a breach of our constitution in its own form
of insurrection, particularly and I'm not talking about legally prosecutable,
though arguably it might be. I'm talking about in the
true spirit of insurrection. When Mike Johnston says yeah, he's
then please to stop the feds. Bring tens of thousands
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into the streets to stop the feds. How is that
anything other than an insurrection? Hey, let's welcome Jeff heard
back to the show. He is a congressman, as you
know from CD three in Colorader.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Jeff, welcome back to the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Hey, Dan, it's great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
What do you make of what's going on in LA
and the President's response.
Speaker 9 (22:32):
Listen, we've got to believe in the rule of law
and the supremacy of federal law, particularly when it comes
to federal immigration issues. I mean, this is something that
we campaigned on. It's something that's important. It's a national
security issue, it's an economic security issue. We have to
follow the law and we have to cooperate with federal
law enforcement authorities. And that's an issue, Dan, that we've
seen not only in California, but also in our homestate.
I think you just alluded to a second ago. It's
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it's a big issue. It's important. We need to take
it seriously. We got to follow the law.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
And at what point does it become here in Colorado
insurrectionist behavior, not in the legally prosecutable sense, but when
you've got the left doing everything it can think of
to prevent the federal government from enforcing immigration law, and
in particular Congressman, as you know, in order to protect
folks here illegally who've committed other crimes. I mean, they're
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going out of their way to protect criminals in our
jails from being picked up by the feds.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Wait.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
Dan, it was just over two weeks ago that our
governor signed in a law that made it even harder
for local law enforcement to cooperate with suberal immigration authorities.
We have not learned a lesson here in Colorado, and
it's something that we need to fix. And I'll tell
you fundamentally, we need to elect more individuals for our
state legislature who understand and respect the important role that
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we have as a state in cooperating with subtal law enforcement,
particularly when it comes to criminals that are here illegally,
they're committing additional crimes. It's a disgrace that we're not
doing that. We have to do it fundamentally. That requires
getting people lefted to our state legislature that understand the
problem and can fix it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, Congressman heard our guest. I would think Colorado races
at every level in this cycle can be framed as
a simple choice, do you want immigration.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Loan enforced or not? Now.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I know there are going to be other important issues,
but that central issue. Nobody can argue that there isn't
a very clear bright line between Republicans and Democrat candidates.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
That's right. Are we a nation of laws or not?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Right?
Speaker 9 (24:30):
And this is something that we take seriously as constitutionalists,
as Republicans, as citizens, and I don't think this should
be a Republican democratic issue. This is a rule of
law issue, it's a state security issue, it's a national
security issue. We got to follow the law. We got
to take it seriously. We don't have a nation if
we don't have a border. And this is something that
I think we campaigned on, and actually we worked on.
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The one big beautiful bill that we just passed delivers
on some of the border security promises that we made.
We're looking at one of the law our just border
security investments in history. Ten thousand new ICE agents are
being hired. I mean, there's a lot of work that
we're doing here in Congress on a federal level to
address this problem that we're seeing in California and in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Well, let me ask you about big beautiful here. First
of all, where are we going to end up on
this once the Senate gets done?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
What's going to happen?
Speaker 9 (25:20):
Well, one thing I've said is I'm cautiously optimistic. We'll
see what the Senate does. It was I think the
Speaker of the House liken this to crossing the grantking
and on a piece of dental floss, like this difficult
balancing act that we had in the House. It certainly
was difficult. Let's see what the Senate does. But I've
got hope that leadership both in the Senate and in
the House, and of course with our President, can deliver
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this bill. We are closer so many good things in
this bill.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Van.
Speaker 9 (25:46):
We cannot make the perfect the enemy of the good,
and this is an enormous step forward for America, for Colorado,
for my district. We got to get this passed.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, acknowledging that my cyber truck purchase is now on hold.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
How do you respond to Elon Musk's criticism of the.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
Bill, Well, look, there's going to be policy differences. There
are parts of this bill that I'm not a big
fan of either, but again, we can't make the perfect
the enemy get Fundamentally, this bill is going to extend
tax cuts, something that matters to every single Colorado not
just rich coloraids, but middle class, working Coloradin's. It's going
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to extend the Trump tax cut. I already mentioned the border.
It's going to be delivering on so many of the
fundamental promises that we made as Republicans where we were running,
as well as what the President himself ran on. And
that's something that we need to get behind and it's
important and I'm proud to be supporting it, even though
there are parts of it that aren't perfect.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
And last question for me, Congressman Jeff heard and appreciate
your time today. I know you've always been a staunch
fiscal conservative. Elon Musk says this bill will make us
death slaves. How do you balance the good in this
bill versus his claim that it's going to just run
up the federal debt.
Speaker 9 (26:59):
We're not going to balance the federal ledgers unless we
grow our economy. And that's a fundamental piece of what
this legislation is doing. It's going to unleash American energy.
It's going to increase the amount of dollars that are
coming into our federal government. And so, yes, there are
spending issues that we have in our government. Absolutely can't
paign on them. It's it's a public debt, is a
public curse, Dan, and we need to address this issue absolutely,
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But there are things that we can work on. This
is just the first of many steps that we're going
to be taking as Congress and hopefully with the President,
to right side our nation's fiscal situation. You can't make
this the perfect. The perfect the enemy of the goven
So this is the first important step and what I
hope will be many steps toward fiscal sanity in our
federal government.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
See, that was part of my proposal to my wife,
the part they cut out.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
You know, it's yeah, but that's right, it works, Hey,
it's the bottom line business.
Speaker 9 (27:52):
They say that you govern in poetry, you are. You
can't paign in poetry. Your government pros that grows part
right here with the rubbers met in the road. And fundamentally,
we got to bend that cost curve. And this is
a step in the right direction. When it comes to
the revenue side. Now we got to get the spending
under control as well.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Well. Hey, appreciate the time, my friend. Look forward to
the next chat anytime. Dan, take care, you take care.
That is a Congressman, Jeff Hurt good to be with us.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Three all three someone three eight two five five texts
d An five seven, seventh three nine. For the record,
that was not part of the proposal. Probably should have
thrown that in just to try to be safe. But
since the proposal was recorded, and as I recall live cast, yeah,
I think we can confirm that was definitely not parted
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three all three someone three eight two five five takes
d an five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Denver Mayor Mike Johnson is walking back his comments suggesting
Denver police would somehow try to stop a mass deportation
by federal forces if the mayor says he expects the
people of Denver would resist, and he says he would too,
even if it means going to jail.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Wow, just pure insurrectionist behavior, right, whether it's criminally prosecutable
or not. But that's the point, right that that's why
this moment's so big out in Los Angeles, because you've
had can't even call it a slow motion or a
percolating up. It's been right in our face insurrection movement
going on led by the left now for quite a
(29:25):
while to make it clear to the federal government that
these leftist jurisdictions like Denver, State of Colorado, California, et cetera,
are not going to enforce federal laws they don't like,
and they're not going to permit federal laws they don't
like to be enforced. And so obviously we can't have
a nation under those circumstances, but you think that bothers them.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
So that's why what.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
President Trump is doing right now is so dramatically important
and why this is such a crazy dangerous moment politically
for the left, because they understand, at least the smart
ones understand, you know, what's going on in America that
that America is is flat out rejecting the left on
this and embracing Trump. And Harrieton talked about that as
(30:11):
well today. Where does immigration rank on issues for him?
How is he doing compaired to others?
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Yeah, so I think what's so important is it is
his top issue so far. And the reason it is
his top issue is because take a look at the
individual nuggets in here. Why are people approving of Trump
on immigration? Approve of these different immigration actions. Will Trump's
administration's program.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
To deport those here illegally?
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Look at this fifty four percent approval, how about agents
searching your hometown for those that they think.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Are here illegally?
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Again, positive territory here above fifty percent.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Party and understand the significance of that. That's for all
folks here illegally. So America has tipped on this in
a very dramatic way, and we can talk about why
I'd love your thoughts three oh three seven one three
eight two five five text d an five seven seven
three nine. But I believe clearly what's happened is we've
reached a point where collectively, Americans are saying, it's a
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tipping point. Americans are saying, wait a second, I get it.
I mean, I get that if people are like me,
some of the very finest people I've ever known are
here illegally. I've just met some phenomenally great people who
are here illegally. But I understand, I think Americans understand.
That doesn't mean that it's okay. That doesn't mean that
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we can just have open borders, because even though we
probably all know some very good people who came here illegally,
the reality is a there are also some bad people,
some murders, some rapists. There's also the financial pressure on
a nation and the system.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
There's also rule of law.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
A nation simply cannot withstand, cannot survive massy legal immigration,
no matter where it's coming from. It could be coming
from Sweden, it could be coming from south of the border.
A nation cannot withstand that. And Americans have reached a
tipping point on that, and it's one of the reasons
Trump got elected again, and it's one of the reasons
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the Poles say what they say, and this stuff in
LA right now. It's great for Trump politically, but it's
also great for America because it's pointing out this insurrection
by the left is real, this defiance of federal law,
and we cannot be a nation if you can pick
and choose your laws. And how many Americans, what do
you think those numbers are? How many Americans at this point?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
What want to see us.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Devolve into a situation where you have people out in
the streets waving flags of other nations no matter what
the nations are, blatantly defying our laws, smashing vehicles, burning vehicles. Listen,
we're all lottery winners, right, those of us who happen
to be born in America be American citizens. Otherwise we're
all lottery winners. And people are not suicidal. The nation's
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not suicidal. People don't want to give away this tremendous
blessing we have of being American citizens and just watch
the nation you get fractured and fall apart.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Nobody wants that except the left. The left wants it
for its own purposes.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Three or three someone three A two five five text
d An five seven seven three nine. That does not
mean that we are not a generous.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
People, not at all.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
And you think that fifty four fifty five percent I've
seen it hire in some other polls, who want the
Feds now rounding up all illegals. You think those people
are a racist or selfish, or they're not Christian or
don't practice whatever faith they adhere to know. I guarantee
you there are a ton of people there, our household included,
(33:35):
who give generously personally out of pocket to help migrants
who are down on their luck. You know, whether they're
legal or illegal, that they're God's children and you want
to help them personally. But when it comes to government policy,
different story. Anybody who wants open borders does not want America.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
It's that simple.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Three or three someone three A two five five texts
Dan five seven seven three nine. So glad you're here.
This is a big, big moment, and I think it's
going to end very well.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I think the Trump voters agree with Mosk. He found
billions in UH. I'm shortening this fraud and abuse, etc.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Hey, I'm grateful to Elon Musk. I disagree with him
on some policy stuff, but I'm grateful to him for
the doze work he did. I'm grateful to him for
helping get Trump and other Republicans elected. I'm grateful to
him for pointing out that we are on the verge
of becoming dead slaves. Elon Musk has done a tremendous
amount of good for America. To come out and make
the bizarre, unprovably false claim that Donald Trump won't release
(34:35):
the Epstein files because he's in them. That's just psycho stuff.
And all I can say on that is we're all human.
We've all made big mistakes at times, and that's one
for Elon Musk. It doesn't wipe away all the good
he's done, and I sense there's going to be a
reconciliation there.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Sean and Arvada, you're on the Dan Kapla, she'll welcome.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
Hey, Dan, thanks, you's fall you know so light. It's funny.
Your dad was a do you hear me?
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yes, sir, Oh yeah, can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Dan?
Speaker 8 (35:08):
You know your dad was Yes, sir, your dad was
a Chicago cop for thirty years right, yes, And uh,
I mean, how could a cop set there?
Speaker 6 (35:19):
He was good.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
I'm sure your dad was seller, you know, law enforcement.
I mean, you talked so good about him, But how
could these police officers do their job?
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (35:29):
You know they're taking molesof cocktail, burning cars at him. Yeah,
and they're I mean, that's the.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Threat of their life. Oh yeah, hang on, Dean, You're
welcome on the other side.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
My dad was in some tough, tough riots in Chicago
the sixty eight Them convention following the murder of doctor
King us in some tough riot situations. And you're one
hundred percent right about that. And it's amazing to self
control they have here on the Dankapla Show
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of the moment we're living through right now. I know
life's fast and twenty four to seven news cycle, this
is not like every other story. This is, in the
words of Joe Biden back in the day when he
could formulate sentences, a big blanket deal. What's going on
right now. What's going on right now threatens the very
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existence of the modern Democratic Party. It's not a threat
to the United States of America because Donald Trump's president
and Donald Trump is dealing very decisively with what would
otherwise be a real threat to the United States of America.
It's a threat that's been growing for a long time.
It's a threat that has gone beyond a danger to
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becoming reality. And the threat I'm talking about is insurrection
because what's happened is you've had this insurrection accepted by
political elites and the media elites. You've had this growing insurrection,
this acceptance of insurrection on the part of many many leftists,
(01:24):
many elected leftists, one of whom I mean Mayor Mike
Johnston in Denver, right, who openly called for insurrection against
the federal government on immigration. And i'll play some of
that sound in a second. It did not age well
for the mayor. But that's what's been happening as you've
had the left and whether it's you know Polis or
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Johnston or picture lefty from around the country, they've been
carving out that they've been carving out this separate nation,
or to be more precise, they've been separating themselves from
the United States of America when it comes to immigration.
And they've been really double middle finger in your face
about it and openly defying the federal government's sole and
(02:07):
exclusive immigration powers. And so that's one reason, big reason
Trump won twice. And now it's coming to a head
starting in LA. But it's not limited to LA. Very
very vivid example here in fact, here's Kyle Clark reporting
on it Beck last November when we were all over.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
This Denver mayor Mike Johnson is walking back his comments
suggesting Denver police would somehow try to stop a mass
deportation by federal forces. If the mayor says he expects
the people of Denver would resist, and he says he
would too, even if it means.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Going to jail. So just open insurrection.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The mayor of a city is going to use police
power to fight the Feds, try to stop the Feds
from enforcing federal law, and then call on the people
as he did, to come out in large numbers, tens
of thousands, comparing it to Tenemin's where to try I
try to stop the federal government from enforcing federal law.
That's an insurrection. There is no doubt that's an insurrection.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
But you see it here.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
You see it here in other ways as well, many
things Polish and other lefties have done legislatively and otherwise.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
But you see it also on display in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
So that's why this is such an enormously important moment,
because we were very rapidly moving toward a point where
it was becoming accepted in America as the new normal
that that federal law would not apply. Federal law would
not apply where the left did not want it to apply.
And obviously we cannot stay remain a nation for long
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that way, But that's what they were carving out in
the most vivid example being immigration, illegal immigration in particular
three or three s one, three eight, two five five,
the number tex d an five seven, seven, three nine.
Love your thoughts, And the reason I started the show
at the point that that the threat right now is
not to the United States of Americans to the Democratic
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Party is because that's true again with Donald Trump in charge,
there's no real threat to the United States of America
right now because he is going to defeat that and
there's a great opportunity for the United States of America
cross party line. So all people who love this nation
and the Constitution and want to see us function as
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a constitutional republic should welcome this moment because it really
takes somebody of clear mind and vision and strength like
Trump to just draw the bright line and say no,
we are going to enforce the Constitution and have the
guts to do it. And that's what the President's doing.
So this is a great opportunity for all constitution loving
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Americans across party lines. The reason it's an existential threat
to the existence of the Democratic Party is that this
far left, radical, secular Democratic party that's emerged right now
stands for this insurrection. It is what they are all about.
They are deeply, deeply committed to it. And here's the
(05:06):
problem now that Trump is confronting them in a very
visible way. Every single contested election at the federal level
across Americans, some beneath the federal level, obviously mayor's races.
It should now become a referendum on whether Americans want
to elect somebody who's going to be an insurrectionist, and
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that includes a John Higgenlooper, that includes Michael Bennett. Do
you want to elect an insurrectionist or do you want
to elect somebody who is.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Not an insurrectionist.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I mean, that is the stark choice because in their
own very concrete ways, pick your lefty right, no matter
what the wrapping is, no matter what the package is.
Take a higgin loop Er, take a Benet, take a Polish,
take any of them.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Please couldn't resist.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But what you get there, what you get there is
some buddy who is openly defiant of federal authority on immigration.
Look at all this stuff they've done in Colorado, to
thwart the federal government's enforcement of immigration law. And they're
so bold that Mike Johnston, the mayor, would stand up
and say, I'm going to send the cops out to
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stop them. I'm going to round up fifty thousand people
from Denver to stop them. That's how emboldened they are
on this.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So that's a choice.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
This US Senate racing Colorado is governor's racing Colorado. Do
you want to elect an insurrectionist, Okay, elect Bennett or Wiser.
The Senate race you want to elect an insurrectionist, Okay,
you elect ticking Looper. But but these races should come
down to a choice of the people. Do you want
to elect somebody who is going to enforce federal law
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and immigration or elect somebody who's going to be an
insurrectionist when it comes to federal immigration law three or
three someone three eight two five five The number takes
da N five seven seventy three nine. That's what do
you think that people would vote on that? Young Ryan,
let's say that is the ballot issue. Do you want
federal immigration law enforced in Colorado or not enforced in Colorado?
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What do you think that? Yes, no question?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
What are the numbers on that.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
In Colorado, the Great State of Colorado, not as good
as they would be nationally, but still an overwhelming majority,
and that bears out in the polling, as Harry Bentine
of CNN has pointed out.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
And I know we have that sound either for now
or for later, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yes, yes, you're so subtle, Ryan, Your subtlety sometimes just
blows me away. And I really do want to get
to that. It's fascinating stuff and it confirms what we
would think, right, but it supports what I was saying
to start the show, which is right here in Colorado.
Every one of these races should be brought back to
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do you want federal immigration law enforced or not? Because
that is a clear, stark choice, and nobody can honestly
dispute the fact that the Democrats do not want it enforced.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
You know, if we just take a look at the
baseline numbers here, this is Trump's net approval rating on immigration.
It's gone up like a rocket compared now versus eight
years ago. During Trump's first term, look at this, and
his first term Trump was way way way under water
at minus twenty one points. But look at this, He's
up over twenty points now in the aggregate. He is
in positive territory at plus one point on his net
(08:25):
approval rating. Some other polls even have it a little
bit higher than that. There is no issue on which
Trump is doing so much better than he was in
his first term more than the issue of immigration. No
wonder The Times has written up the way that he is.
Trump is begging for a fight on this because he
knows what he's doing so far is working with the
American elector.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, but why is it working? Drilled down to that,
why is it working?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's not because of great marketing or messaging or quote
framing or any of that garbage. No, it's working because
America has reached a tipping point in that Americans get
it now that that each and every one of us
knows some truly great people who are here illegally or
came here illegally in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But that's not the point.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
The point is a nation cannot survive mass illegal immigration.
It cannot survive on any level despite how many good
people we know who've come here illegally, because along with
the good people, you're going to get a lot of
bad people. But you're also going to get an overwhelming
of resources and a fractured nation. The visuals coming out
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of Los Angeles right now typify it. It has nothing
to do with race, nothing to do with skin color.
It has to do with we have a nation, and
we have laws, and if we're going to allow unlimited
mass illegal immigration from anywhere, that nation.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Is going to cease to exist. Here on the Dan.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Caplas Show, and now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
God rest, So.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
What a voter see in terms of their perception of Republicans,
the president or Democrats, se Gavenusom on this issue. Yeah,
the American electorate believed that the Democrats don't have a
clue on the issue of immigration. I mean, you could
just take it here closer to trust Moore and immigration.
Democrats versus Republicans. Got three different polls for you across
the board. They all tell the same story. Republicans lead
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on the issue of immigration. You see it here CBS
plus six, You see it here at CNN plus six.
You see it here IPSOS even bigger plus nineteen. No
matter what poll you look at, no matter which way
you cut it, the American public is with the Republicans.
The American public is with Donald Trump, and to a
much greater extent than they were in term number one.
And it's not just on the broad issue of immigration.
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It's on the specifics as well in which the American
public is with Donald Trump and the Republicans. And that
is why Donald Trump is eager to take on this
fight and eager for those scenes at a Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, in an existential threat to Democrats as we go
to the phone line, including in Colorado. And I know
Colorado's one of the toughest nuts to crack, but simple
question for the Senate race, for the governors, I saw
other races as well. Do you want immigration law enforced
or not? That's your choice on this ballot, No matter
whose names appear, that's your choice on this ballot. Let's
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go to a Larkspur, Colorado. A beautiful day there. I'm
sure Steve, you're on the Dan Kaplas show.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Welcome, Hi there, Dan.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Listen your opinion?
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Does Trump have legal standing to arrest Newsom and Bass?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
And if he.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Does, do you support that if he were to do that?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
He does not, he does not, but he certainly has
legal standing to be calling in the seven hundred Marines
that he is, depending upon how they're deployed.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
And I'll get specific.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Certainly has legal standing to be nationalizing the State of
California National Guard under these circumstances, very solid legal grounds. Steve,
you seem disappointed or maybe just a bad cell connection.
(12:02):
Hopefully we'll get our friend Steve back and I'll elaborate,
and I want to get other callers in.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And Littleton, you're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Dan, how are you today?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I'm living the dream? How about you?
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Beautiful day, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Oh man?
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Heyre's here's what I see. You know, when it comes
specifically to Colorado, I'm a red hornet living in a
blue horn's nest, and you.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Know that's blood.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Yeah, very tough thing to overcome. And what this nation?
You know, I don't have to go back and beat
the dead horse. I think it's pretty obvious what we've
seen happen over the years is a loud minority has
you know, got the upper hand for a while on
the silent majority, and we're going to go through a
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very tough period correcting things, and we've got to start
enforcing our laws. And the best analogy that I see
is this nation's going to kind of go through an exorcism.
It's going to be ugly. There's gonna be a lot
of screaming, there's going to be a lot of name calling,
and it's going to be tumultuous.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
But sounds like talk great.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
Yeah, but I'd rather do it now. Let's let's get
it done. Let's get through this, you know, because if
we continue to go down this path not enforcing our
laws and the Democrats picking and choosing what they want
to enforce and what they don't want to enforce, we
no longer have a nation. That's what the legal system is,
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what has kept this nation going. And you know, we've
got we've got the little anarchists out there that you know,
they have nothing better to do in their life, and
so you know, anarchy gives them a little something to do.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And talking about Mike Johnston.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Yeah, yeah, I'm serious.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I'm serious.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I mean, when Mike Johnston calls says he's going to
send the Denver police out to take on the FED
so they can't enforce federal law, calls for tens of
thousands of Denver rights to take to the streets to
stop the Feds at that's worse than any ANTIFA punk.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Yeah, you're you're, you're, You're absolutely right, because you know,
if if Mike Johnson Ton wants to if he wants
to protect the immigrants and protectcise me the illegal immigrants,
he needs to just and he needs to resign his
position and realize he was put in the office to
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protect the American citizens. If he has other aspirations, he
needs to resign his positions and go find that calling
in life that he but in his position, the American
his number one job is to protect the people here
in Denver, protect people, you know, and thank you, and
(14:58):
I do apologize.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Got to pop this break, but Mick Johnston did not
hide it, by the way, Mike Johnston well until after
the election. Johnston came out in his inaugural address and
we'll put that sound up and he said, we will
get you a home. He was telling the world come
to Denver and we will get you a home. And
he has been delivering on that. He's been using taxpayer dollars. Okay,
you cut all these other services, defund the police, meaning
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lesson police funding, etc. In order to buy those homes
and provide those hotel rooms and provide those accommodations. From
people coming to Denver from all over the world to
take Mike Johnston up on his promise to we will.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Get you a home.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
They're doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
But what I want to see is is I want
to see Mike Johnston's tax returns. I want to see
if Mike Johnston is spending any of his money on this.
We know, no matter whose money he's spending, it's very
bad for Denver. But is he spending any of his
own money on this? He claims to care so much,
it's so heartfelt from him, right the quote newcomers, let's
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see it.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Let's see the checkbook.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Mike, how much of your own family money have you
donated to quote the newcomers versus how much of other
people's money? Let's see it. Same for Hickenlooper, same for Bennett.
Three oh three seven one three eight two five five.
The number tags d A N five seven seven at
three nine. I mean, that's what it's really coming down to,
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is a choice on the Colorado ballot and elsewhere are
you going to vote for an insurrectionist? Because every one
of these lefties who stands for opposing the federal government
enforcing federal immigration law, that's that's.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
What they are in spirit.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Now, whether they rise to the level of being a
legally prosecutable insurrectionist, no different question.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
But when you've got Mike Johnston.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Talking talking to but let's play that Kyle Clark story again,
talking about sending the law enforcement out to fight the Fed,
stop the Feds the border and putting tens of thousands
of Colorado's into the street. Yeah, now you're at least
having the conversation about whether it's criminal insurrection. When I
talk about insurrection and these people be an insurrectionist, I'm
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talking about the spirit of it. What they're actually trying
to accomplish, to thwart the federal government from enforcing federal law.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Denver Mayor Mike Johnson is walking back his comments suggesting
Denver police would somehow try to stop a mass deportation
by federal forces if the mayor says he expects the
people of Denver would resist, and he says he would too,
even if it means going to jail.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Is that anything other than a flat out insurrectionist? Can
somebody explain that to me? Again, I'm not I don't
do criminal law. I do catastrophic injury work, so I
can't tell you whether that stuff's criminally prosecutable. If it's not,
it should be. But I'm just talking about reality. Are
(18:02):
you electing an insurrectionist? Are you electing somebody who is
determined to stop the federal government from enforcing federal law.
So that's a very bad spot that Democrats find themselves
in right now nationally, that's what they're identified with, that
they're identified with trying to separate from the federal government
(18:22):
when it comes to immigration or any other federal laws
they don't like. And then God Trump has stepped up
to say, no, we're one nation. We're one nation under God.
We have one constitution and we're going to live by
the law of the land. If you don't like the law,
change it. But to the polices and Johnston's and Bennett's
and Hickenloopers and all these other lefties that Karen Basses
(18:43):
and newsoms who say, no, we're going to take the
federal money, but then we're going to operate the way
we want to double middle finger to federal law.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
No, those days must come to an end. You're on
the Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast Urder Rule
to gage, but gerally, see what happens if we think
it is serious insurrection.
Speaker 9 (19:08):
For less than that, we're.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Gonna have a long hard Urian for how we define
in any direction.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
You have to really just have.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
To look at the side. You have to see what's happening.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
Last night in Los Angeles we watched the Dredge Plusley.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
There was a lot of violence there.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
There was a lot of violence that it could have
gotten much worse.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
You have an incompetence govern it.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Just take a look at the at the train stations
that he's building, like twenty times over, budd that nobody's
ever seen as they like.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
And tell I did call him the other night. I said, look,
you got to take care of this.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Otherwise I'm sending.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
In the troop.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
That's what we do.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, insurrection, you know when you see it right, and
it's a little more precise and illegally, but certainly a
violent uprising against federal authority.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, that's an insurrection.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
And remember Trump has these powers, he has these to
federalize a state national guard, you know, when you're facing
civil unrest. It was done during the riots following the
acquittal of the officers who had been involved with Rodney King,
remember that back in LA So yeah, and we're talking
(20:18):
about a couple of different critters here, but the bottom
line is that the president certainly does have that kind
of power under certain circumstances, including the Rodney King verdict, riots,
and certainly here where you're trying to enforce federal immigration
law and you have people violently rising up against that
(20:39):
to try to stop it. Yeah, that's textbook. There's no
gray area there. And in terms of the Marines, yeah,
you cannot in a situation like this, and you wouldn't
want to right use the Marines against people just protesting
out in the streets, etc. Or to maintain order in
that circumstance.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
That's not the point.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
But you can certainly use the Marines to protect federal facilities,
you know, use the Marines to facilitate the movement of
other federal government law enforcement officers, including ice, that kind
of thing. But you won't see the Marines involved in
keeping the peace at protests, for example, that will be
federalized state national guards. So three or three someone three
(21:20):
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five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Love your thoughts on all of this. If you've just
joined us. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I really do think that this is a particularly important
day or or time or series of days in America,
and that very, very good things are going to come
from this because we've been moving so steadily toward a
separation of state and federal government of in particular left
leaning or very leftist mayors, governors, et cetera, as we've
(21:51):
seen in Colorado simply defying the Feds, and and that
is a breach of our constitution in its own form
of insurrection, particularly and I'm not talking about legally prosecutable,
though arguably it might be. I'm talking about in the
true spirit of insurrection. When Mike Johnston says yeah, he's
then please to stop the feds. Bring tens of thousands
(22:12):
into the streets to stop the feds. How is that
anything other than an insurrection? Hey, let's welcome Jeff heard
back to the show. He is a congressman, as you
know from CD three in Colorader.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Jeff, welcome back to the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Hey, Dan, it's great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
What do you make of what's going on in LA
and the President's response.
Speaker 9 (22:32):
Listen, we've got to believe in the rule of law
and the supremacy of federal law, particularly when it comes
to federal immigration issues. I mean, this is something that
we campaigned on. It's something that's important. It's a national
security issue, it's an economic security issue. We have to
follow the law and we have to cooperate with federal
law enforcement authorities. And that's an issue, Dan, that we've
seen not only in California, but also in our homestate.
I think you just alluded to a second ago. It's
(22:53):
it's a big issue. It's important. We need to take
it seriously. We got to follow the law.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
And at what point does it become here in Colorado
insurrectionist behavior, not in the legally prosecutable sense, but when
you've got the left doing everything it can think of
to prevent the federal government from enforcing immigration law, and
in particular Congressman, as you know, in order to protect
folks here illegally who've committed other crimes. I mean, they're
(23:21):
going out of their way to protect criminals in our
jails from being picked up by the feds.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Wait.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
Dan, it was just over two weeks ago that our
governor signed in a law that made it even harder
for local law enforcement to cooperate with suberal immigration authorities.
We have not learned a lesson here in Colorado, and
it's something that we need to fix. And I'll tell
you fundamentally, we need to elect more individuals for our
state legislature who understand and respect the important role that
(23:48):
we have as a state in cooperating with subtal law enforcement,
particularly when it comes to criminals that are here illegally,
they're committing additional crimes. It's a disgrace that we're not
doing that. We have to do it fundamentally. That requires
getting people lefted to our state legislature that understand the
problem and can fix it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, Congressman heard our guest. I would think Colorado races
at every level in this cycle can be framed as
a simple choice, do you want immigration.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Loan enforced or not? Now.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I know there are going to be other important issues,
but that central issue. Nobody can argue that there isn't
a very clear bright line between Republicans and Democrat candidates.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
That's right. Are we a nation of laws or not?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Right?
Speaker 9 (24:30):
And this is something that we take seriously as constitutionalists,
as Republicans, as citizens, and I don't think this should
be a Republican democratic issue. This is a rule of
law issue, it's a state security issue, it's a national
security issue. We got to follow the law. We got
to take it seriously. We don't have a nation if
we don't have a border. And this is something that
I think we campaigned on, and actually we worked on.
(24:52):
The one big beautiful bill that we just passed delivers
on some of the border security promises that we made.
We're looking at one of the law our just border
security investments in history. Ten thousand new ICE agents are
being hired. I mean, there's a lot of work that
we're doing here in Congress on a federal level to
address this problem that we're seeing in California and in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Well, let me ask you about big beautiful here. First
of all, where are we going to end up on
this once the Senate gets done?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
What's going to happen?
Speaker 9 (25:20):
Well, one thing I've said is I'm cautiously optimistic. We'll
see what the Senate does. It was I think the
Speaker of the House liken this to crossing the grantking
and on a piece of dental floss, like this difficult
balancing act that we had in the House. It certainly
was difficult. Let's see what the Senate does. But I've
got hope that leadership both in the Senate and in
the House, and of course with our President, can deliver
(25:43):
this bill. We are closer so many good things in
this bill.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Van.
Speaker 9 (25:46):
We cannot make the perfect the enemy of the good,
and this is an enormous step forward for America, for Colorado,
for my district. We got to get this passed.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, acknowledging that my cyber truck purchase is now on hold.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
How do you respond to Elon Musk's criticism of the.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
Bill, Well, look, there's going to be policy differences. There
are parts of this bill that I'm not a big
fan of either, but again, we can't make the perfect
the enemy get Fundamentally, this bill is going to extend
tax cuts, something that matters to every single Colorado not
just rich coloraids, but middle class, working Coloradin's. It's going
(26:23):
to extend the Trump tax cut. I already mentioned the border.
It's going to be delivering on so many of the
fundamental promises that we made as Republicans where we were running,
as well as what the President himself ran on. And
that's something that we need to get behind and it's
important and I'm proud to be supporting it, even though
there are parts of it that aren't perfect.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
And last question for me, Congressman Jeff heard and appreciate
your time today. I know you've always been a staunch
fiscal conservative. Elon Musk says this bill will make us
death slaves. How do you balance the good in this
bill versus his claim that it's going to just run
up the federal debt.
Speaker 9 (26:59):
We're not going to balance the federal ledgers unless we
grow our economy. And that's a fundamental piece of what
this legislation is doing. It's going to unleash American energy.
It's going to increase the amount of dollars that are
coming into our federal government. And so, yes, there are
spending issues that we have in our government. Absolutely can't
paign on them. It's it's a public debt, is a
public curse, Dan, and we need to address this issue absolutely,
(27:21):
But there are things that we can work on. This
is just the first of many steps that we're going
to be taking as Congress and hopefully with the President,
to right side our nation's fiscal situation. You can't make
this the perfect. The perfect the enemy of the goven
So this is the first important step and what I
hope will be many steps toward fiscal sanity in our
federal government.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
See, that was part of my proposal to my wife,
the part they cut out.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
You know, it's yeah, but that's right, it works, Hey,
it's the bottom line business.
Speaker 9 (27:52):
They say that you govern in poetry, you are. You
can't paign in poetry. Your government pros that grows part
right here with the rubbers met in the road. And fundamentally,
we got to bend that cost curve. And this is
a step in the right direction. When it comes to
the revenue side. Now we got to get the spending
under control as well.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Well. Hey, appreciate the time, my friend. Look forward to
the next chat anytime. Dan, take care, you take care.
That is a Congressman, Jeff Hurt good to be with us.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Three all three someone three eight two five five texts
d An five seven, seventh three nine. For the record,
that was not part of the proposal. Probably should have
thrown that in just to try to be safe. But
since the proposal was recorded, and as I recall live cast, yeah,
I think we can confirm that was definitely not parted
(28:37):
three all three someone three eight two five five takes
d an five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Denver Mayor Mike Johnson is walking back his comments suggesting
Denver police would somehow try to stop a mass deportation
by federal forces if the mayor says he expects the
people of Denver would resist, and he says he would too,
even if it means going to jail.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Wow, just pure insurrectionist behavior, right, whether it's criminally prosecutable
or not. But that's the point, right that that's why
this moment's so big out in Los Angeles, because you've
had can't even call it a slow motion or a
percolating up. It's been right in our face insurrection movement
going on led by the left now for quite a
(29:25):
while to make it clear to the federal government that
these leftist jurisdictions like Denver, State of Colorado, California, et cetera,
are not going to enforce federal laws they don't like,
and they're not going to permit federal laws they don't
like to be enforced. And so obviously we can't have
a nation under those circumstances, but you think that bothers them.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
So that's why what.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
President Trump is doing right now is so dramatically important
and why this is such a crazy dangerous moment politically
for the left, because they understand, at least the smart
ones understand, you know, what's going on in America that
that America is is flat out rejecting the left on
this and embracing Trump. And Harrieton talked about that as
(30:11):
well today. Where does immigration rank on issues for him?
How is he doing compaired to others?
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Yeah, so I think what's so important is it is
his top issue so far. And the reason it is
his top issue is because take a look at the
individual nuggets in here. Why are people approving of Trump
on immigration? Approve of these different immigration actions. Will Trump's
administration's program.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
To deport those here illegally?
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Look at this fifty four percent approval, how about agents
searching your hometown for those that they think.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Are here illegally?
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Again, positive territory here above fifty percent.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Party and understand the significance of that. That's for all
folks here illegally. So America has tipped on this in
a very dramatic way, and we can talk about why
I'd love your thoughts three oh three seven one three
eight two five five text d an five seven seven
three nine. But I believe clearly what's happened is we've
reached a point where collectively, Americans are saying, it's a
(31:06):
tipping point. Americans are saying, wait a second, I get it.
I mean, I get that if people are like me,
some of the very finest people I've ever known are
here illegally. I've just met some phenomenally great people who
are here illegally. But I understand, I think Americans understand.
That doesn't mean that it's okay. That doesn't mean that
(31:27):
we can just have open borders, because even though we
probably all know some very good people who came here illegally,
the reality is a there are also some bad people,
some murders, some rapists. There's also the financial pressure on
a nation and the system.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
There's also rule of law.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
A nation simply cannot withstand, cannot survive massy legal immigration,
no matter where it's coming from. It could be coming
from Sweden, it could be coming from south of the border.
A nation cannot withstand that. And Americans have reached a
tipping point on that, and it's one of the reasons
Trump got elected again, and it's one of the reasons
(32:05):
the Poles say what they say, and this stuff in
LA right now. It's great for Trump politically, but it's
also great for America because it's pointing out this insurrection
by the left is real, this defiance of federal law,
and we cannot be a nation if you can pick
and choose your laws. And how many Americans, what do
you think those numbers are? How many Americans at this point?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
What want to see us.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Devolve into a situation where you have people out in
the streets waving flags of other nations no matter what
the nations are, blatantly defying our laws, smashing vehicles, burning vehicles. Listen,
we're all lottery winners, right, those of us who happen
to be born in America be American citizens. Otherwise we're
all lottery winners. And people are not suicidal. The nation's
(32:49):
not suicidal. People don't want to give away this tremendous
blessing we have of being American citizens and just watch
the nation you get fractured and fall apart.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Nobody wants that except the left. The left wants it
for its own purposes.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Three or three someone three A two five five text
d An five seven seven three nine. That does not
mean that we are not a generous.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
People, not at all.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
And you think that fifty four fifty five percent I've
seen it hire in some other polls, who want the
Feds now rounding up all illegals. You think those people
are a racist or selfish, or they're not Christian or
don't practice whatever faith they adhere to know. I guarantee
you there are a ton of people there, our household included,
(33:35):
who give generously personally out of pocket to help migrants
who are down on their luck. You know, whether they're
legal or illegal, that they're God's children and you want
to help them personally. But when it comes to government policy,
different story. Anybody who wants open borders does not want America.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
It's that simple.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Three or three someone three A two five five texts
Dan five seven seven three nine. So glad you're here.
This is a big, big moment, and I think it's
going to end very well.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I think the Trump voters agree with Mosk. He found
billions in UH. I'm shortening this fraud and abuse, etc.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Hey, I'm grateful to Elon Musk. I disagree with him
on some policy stuff, but I'm grateful to him for
the doze work he did. I'm grateful to him for
helping get Trump and other Republicans elected. I'm grateful to
him for pointing out that we are on the verge
of becoming dead slaves. Elon Musk has done a tremendous
amount of good for America. To come out and make
the bizarre, unprovably false claim that Donald Trump won't release
(34:35):
the Epstein files because he's in them. That's just psycho stuff.
And all I can say on that is we're all human.
We've all made big mistakes at times, and that's one
for Elon Musk. It doesn't wipe away all the good
he's done, and I sense there's going to be a
reconciliation there.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Sean and Arvada, you're on the Dan Kapla, she'll welcome.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
Hey, Dan, thanks, you's fall you know so light. It's funny.
Your dad was a do you hear me?
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yes, sir, Oh yeah, can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Dan?
Speaker 8 (35:08):
You know your dad was Yes, sir, your dad was
a Chicago cop for thirty years right, yes, And uh,
I mean, how could a cop set there?
Speaker 6 (35:19):
He was good.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
I'm sure your dad was seller, you know, law enforcement.
I mean, you talked so good about him, But how
could these police officers do their job?
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (35:29):
You know they're taking molesof cocktail, burning cars at him. Yeah,
and they're I mean, that's the.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Threat of their life. Oh yeah, hang on, Dean, You're
welcome on the other side.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
My dad was in some tough, tough riots in Chicago
the sixty eight Them convention following the murder of doctor
King us in some tough riot situations. And you're one
hundred percent right about that. And it's amazing to self
control they have here on the Dankapla Show
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