#503 - Dylan Scott on Manifesting His Career at 10 Years Old + Not Getting to Play or Present at Award Shows + How He Met His Wife When They Were Kids + Growing up Next to Lainey Wilson

On this episode of the BobbyCast, Bobby sits down with country artist Dylan Scott. Dylan tells Bobby how he manifested his career at just 10 years old, and the frustration of never being able to play or present at awards shows. Plus, Dylan tells Bobby how he met his wife when they were just kids, growing up next to Lainey Wilson, and so much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I mean after my Girl, I just had my first song.
I mean, I'm starting my life really and I have
a number one song. The money's going up a little bit,
the shows are good.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Everything guarantees are getting bigger on them.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah, like everything's great. Like I'm supporting my family doing
music now.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I don't want to lose.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
That episode fiveh three with Dylan Scott. Dylan has five
number one songs. He is that's my Girl on the
pastor seat. He has Nobody, Nobody, Nobody, Nobody, Nobody, Nobody.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I think there's more words than that, but I love
that song.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
I really feel like Dylan Scott is, i will say,
undervalued by the people that really don't matter, which is
the industry. We talk about that, so I'm gonna I'm
gonna save that for the podcast, but I'm not even
gonna act like that. Dylan Scott and I are like
great personal friends because we're not. We've worked together a
couple times and done show stuff, and I really like him.

(01:05):
But it's one of those stories. I would compare it
to parm Lee, where so much success on such a level,
but for some reason, Nope, I'm not gonna do that here.
What did I just say I'm not gonna do that here,
because we do that there now. His current song, this
Town's Been Too Good to Us, which is probably number
one everybody's point. We recorded this like the day before
the chart came out. He had a number one earlier

(01:26):
a couple months ago with Boys Back Home with Dylan Marlowe.
He's currently the fourth most played artist a country radio
so far this year. Born in Louisiana, moved to Nashville.
He's a teenager. He talks about his influences. It's a
fitness fanatic. I would say, I mean he's ripped. I
really like him, I really like his story, and I
really hope that light gets shined on him a little more.

(01:49):
Ann you'll hear why so here he is episode five three.
Follow him on Instagram at Dylan Scott Country d y
La n Scott Country. Here we Go with Dylan Scott
without giving any specific details, how far do you.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Live from here? I lived forty five minutes. Oh you're
out of town huh oh yeah, purposefully. I used to
live downtown. Oh so you went from downtown.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
I'm talking like three blocks off Broadway downtown When I
first moved here for a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Why why'd you live downtown because you wanted to do
the Nashville.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I wanted to That's what I thought, experience it, you know,
which I was way too young to even like go
do anything.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
But how old were you? I was nineteen when I
moved to town. So I had a place downtown.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
It was like Church and Fourth Okay, so it was
like two blocks off of Broadway.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Bought the top.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
It was when I first started to make money, So
I always wanted to live downtown. Yeah, like the dream
was like live downtown and like be in it. I
was touring so much like doing stand up and so
we went and looked at this place.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Did you live in a condo? It was, but it
was like a high rise condo. That was the dream.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
It wasn't I rise, No, see mine was like a
sixth Mine wasn't high rise either, but it was like a.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Mid to low raise, but it was like six stories. Yeah.
I was on the third floor of like a four
story similar.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
It was nice and so we uh, I bought it,
and I remember going to look for it and look
at it and they were like, oh, look out, it's
great because it was right over Printer's alley, like you
look down Printer's Alley's right there, and I don't even
go out. I just thought it'd be like the romantic
idea of living near downtown. Yeah, and so looked at it,
loved it, bought it.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Significant for me, a significant purchase for me.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
And I remember the first time that I was home
at night, because I wasn't home on weekends a lot
because I would just be on the road. I was like,
oh my god, I never toured to look at this
place in the evening on a weekend.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
The music, dude, it was a disaster. Had a train
you did right outside of the window. What time would
it run?

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Oh, just random times like middle of the night or
early morning.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I kind of got used to it, yeah after a while.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
But yeah, I lived downtown and then moved over like
off of West End, and then moved out of town
right before I got married. My wife and I did
long distance like six years.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Wow. So we bought this little high or we rented
this little house and then we were going to.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Buy a house or we had no kids yet, and
I was like, let's just let's go back downtown.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Because she never got to experience that. Where'd she moved
from what state, Louisiana. We're from the same town. We
grew up ten minutes support, got it. So you did
long distance.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
But did you have some sort of relationship even just
knowing each other from back.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
In the day as far as lie, did you know
where before you moved here? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we
started dating. It was fifteen.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Okay, so you moved here and she stayed back. Yes,
So you didn't meet long distance? No? No, no, yeah, yeah
we met.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
We met in seventh grade, never talked to each other,
eighth grade, never talked to each other, went to two
separate high schools, and then our sophomore year.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Just got that.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
That long distance makes sense. Yeah, it wasn't like you
met her on the road and oh yeah it worked
out with a girl in Michigan.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
No, okay, no, no, no, yeah, it was kind of
the deal, like we knew that's what was going to happen.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
And then did she not want to move downtown? No,
she wanted to.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
We were looking at places, and then as soon as
we were about to, like, all right, let's let's go
downtown for like a year or so, let you experience it,
she found out she was pregnant. With our first Beckett
and Live, I said, we're not doing that, and I'm
so glad we didn't, because I mean, I was over it.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Really.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I just kind of wanted to do it for her,
what her experience it. But yeah, it worked out. You
have land, I do now.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
That was the dream.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Do you take care of your own land or do
you take care of but a little bit of your
own land and then the rest either just lives and
it's you don't have to take care of r somebody
else does.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, So I mean right now, it's look, we bought
this property and I rented an excavator and a dozer
and off road truck and basically developed it with a
buddy of mine, Like spent every day for almost a
year when I wasn't on the roads, some trees over
and burning and making ponds and house paths and all

(06:05):
that stuff. So I mean, I do take care of
my property. I remember when we bought our first house,
I was the house we're still in right now. I
was so excited to mow my yard. I love doing
yard work, and I bought this John Deere zero turn.
I was so proud of it, and then never even
got to use it. Because I was going so much
and the grass would get so high, so I had
to hire somebody, which made me feel less of a man.

(06:29):
But at least my yard guy he's a buddy of mine.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Now.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
He came to my show this past weekend and brought
his girlfriend and they hung out on the bus and stuff.
But my wife had a garage cell shortly after why
she had a garage sell. I have no idea, and
she's like, do you want to get rid of your lawnmower.
I was like, I don't want to, but I probably
should because I'm never going to use it again. I mean,
I got the guy now and I don't have time.
And guy pulls up. He's like, what do you want

(06:54):
for the lawnmower. She's like, I don't know. Thousand dollars.
He's like, I'll be right back for four thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
It was only like it was only like three months old.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
So she didn't talk to you about what probably not
on it. No, that's funny, yeah, and a little bit
that's on you.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
You know she's doing a groad soe, well it was
kind of random. Well, no, I didn't know the lawnmower
was going to go.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
She texts me, Hey, would you want to sell your lawnmower?
I just said, yeah, that's fine, we can probably do that.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I'm not going to use it.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
And before we could even get into it, I guess
she was right there next to the guy he was
going She texted.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
You why he was there.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, we have a few acres behind here that we
don't have to keep up with. Like that's the purpose
of it, right, Yeah. Do you have any jobs where
you were excavating? Did you learn that on the fly?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, on the fly.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
So one of my best friends is from Louisiana and
Southwesia and his dad on a huge land development company,
and uh, he pretty much taught me everything. I mean,
I've done some stuff on like a little small skid steer,
but we're talking like huge excavator track. Oh, big dozer
D six. I mean it's a big deal. I was like,

(07:58):
all right, I got this on my help. He's like, man,
it's not that easy. But I picked it up pretty quick.
I feel like I could. I feel like I could
go do some work if I needed to.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Do you have any jobs while you were here that
weren't music related? No? Not. Since I moved to Nashville.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
How did you make money? Did you get a publishing deal?

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Quick?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Got a publishing deal? Wasn't enough money to really survive?
So how to go in and negotiate some stuff to
make a little extra more money?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
But I just had to hit the road.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
That sounds like prostitution whatever that means, Like, it wasn't
enough to negotia more.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, basically, so I was like, hey, it's not to
live on.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
So can we you know, we can redo some stuff
on the contract that's better for y'all and worse for
me if I can get a little more and more
money up front, which bit me in the long run
a little bit, but hey, helped you get through that time,
helped me get through it in this part of business.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
So you moved here at nineteen, Yeah, yeah, you drive
up with a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
I mean no, not really, I got stuff when I
got here. I mean luckily my parents were awesome and
they didn't have my I grew up in just the record,
we're middle class family. You know, my dad went to
work every day, and I mean my mom scratching pennies
out of the ash tray of the car just to
get sonic cheeseburger on the you know, a regular day.
But they helped me get some stuff from my apartment

(09:13):
and then it was kind of on me from there.
I remember calling my dad though, one day, and my
dad put me to work.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
When I was I was fifteen years old, I was.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Cleaning boat carborators and mowing the grass at a marine place.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I worked at a marina forever dude.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, people think that I didn't have the good job,
like to meet the girls.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I wasn't that. I wasn't like the doc boy. Yeah, yeah, no,
I was. You were. I was a grease boy. Yeah,
that's what I was. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Me and I worked at a golf course too, And
I wasn't the guy that did the golf carts.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
I was the one that was weed eating. You didn't
get the cool stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I didn't have a rich dad that was a member
of the country club. And so as you can tell,
I'm still resentful.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
So you worked for your dad?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well, my dad no, he just found he had a
buddy at worked there and asked him if I could work.
I try to get a job at walm which I
had to be sixteen, I guess at that time. But
when did that and I mean, I've been paying for
my stuff ever since. So to call my dad and
ask him, like, Dad, I'm I'm out of money, like
I got bills and stuff, was like that was a
big deal for me.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
And I remember the truck.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I was driving at the time was a It was
an F one fifty, like an early two thousands model
that I went and bought and I was paying the
note on it. But what I didn't know was my granddad,
his dad bought it and so it was paid for
I didn't know. So every month I was making a
payment for my truck, I was just it was just
going to a savings account. And so my dad goes, well,

(10:42):
I figured this day would come blah blah blah, and
he told me about it, and it's like I had
several thousands of dollars that helped me get through that
as well. So pretty cool. I thought that was one
of the coolest things.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Had I gave me chills a little bit like that's love. Yeah,
years in advance, looking out for a time that he
knew you would probably need it, but you were getting
what you needed by earning it.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
At the same time, I didn't know was still paying the.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
No earning responsibility. Yeah, learning how to be disciplined. Yeah,
that's a good one. What they think about you doing music.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
So my dad did music in what capacity, moved to town,
moved to Nashville in his early twenties to pursue a
you know, a country music singer whole deal, you know,
and slept on people's couches and did the whole thing.
And you know, it's just a tough business, you know,
my dad. I mean, I've heard old stuff that my
dad's recorded and whatnot. My dad was a great singer.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Sounded like you deep boys, not as deep.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
But just a great singer. Just a real nice, rich
voice and it was on pitch and it was great.
I've seen old videos and performing on stage. I was like, dang,
dad had it.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You know. It was really cool.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
But ended up playing on the road with older guys
like Freddie Fender back in.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
The day, wasted days and wasted So.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Did that for a while, and man just gave it
all up when he met my mom and moved back
home and started doing regular blue collar work. My mom
had two kids prior, and they were you know, five, six,
seven years old, so he had to go to work immediately.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
How do you meet your mom? Uh, just through some friends.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
So they're from she's from Louisiana as well, same little place,
little town over and just mutual friends put them together
on a blind date and was together ever since.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
What's your hometown like now or then?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Now?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Now it's run down, it's run down pretty good. How
many peoples are assigned? That says pop?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I know there used to be like maybe like eleven
thousand in the town. But we had a we had
a paper mill, International paper company.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
We had a saw mill.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Paper mill stunk that we played ball, oh, but anywhere
we went, went to Ashdown and they had a paper mill.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
We had to hold our nose playing.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
The whole smell like home to me though, really, yeah,
you got used to it.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
I smell like that to other people when you would
go away, No, they'd be like, what's wrong?

Speaker 2 (13:01):
No, so you weren't like stained by the paper mills.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Now, I will say I ended up through the year's
summer job working at those paper mills.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
And you do smell like it when you work there.
That's awful.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
But I just remember going into Ashdown which had the
paper mill, and there the outfield wall was against the
back of the paper mill, and mostly I played first base.
I was left handed, but if we played tournaments, I
played outfield. It was already miserable. You could just smell
it when you got to town. Yeah, but then not
they couldn't because they lived in it. Yeah, and that's

(13:33):
it's a distinct memory.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
We lived in it too, and we did smell it,
no doubt. But and it did stink, don't get me wrong.
But it was also like that's home, you know, what
we grew.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Up with is what it is. But that's an advantage too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Meals shut down and everybody kind of moved out. Some
people stayed, and it just the economy went down. I
mean it's still home.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I love it. I love the town.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's called Bastrip, Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
All mill collapsed in Mountain Pine as well, and that's
what gave everybody jobs.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, I mean population seven hundred. That was my hometown.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
And I would say eighty percent of this at any city,
eighty percent of the town worked at Warehouser.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
And when it went down, everything got bad, school got bad.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Everybody left. Same here.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
What's on the property now, nothing, that's nothing at all.
It's weird driving back and I've heard of people coming
in like wanting to do what are they doing now?
They're like mining for.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I don't know what it is. It's a way over
my head. It's like bitcoin, something crazy like digitally. Yeah,
like they want to use the property for that. But
nothing's there at all. Short down everything you work at
the mill. Did I ever think I would, Oh.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, like after high school? Oh no, because you always
had you knew you were going to do.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Dude, I told I remember being on the playground as
a kid in elementary school telling my buddies, I'm moving
to Nashville to be a country singer.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Now, when you're that young, I didn't know what Nashville was.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I knew it was a city and where you go
to be a country music singer.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
But you know, I was trying to be my dad.
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
In fourth grade, I wrote a book called My Future Life.
And looking back now, I mean it was stories that
I've heard of my dad and whatnot that he would
tell me about. But if you go open that book
right now. I saw it the other day. My wife
had it in our closet and I ran into it
and I look at that book. I've pretty much done
everything in that book, and I was just always a

(15:36):
believer of just man manifested. Tell yourself you're going to
do it, And I think you can do anything in
life like that. You know, now if I was a
terrible singer, maybe not. But I don't know. Man, I
just never I never told myself I was going to
go to college or go work at the meal or
do something like that. It's like, I'm going to go

(15:57):
to Nashville. Know where it works out, We'll see.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
But my grandma adopted me for a lot of my life,
and so she kept this thing in kindergarten where it
was like, what do you want to be? Classic right kindergarten? Yeah,
And I wanted to be a be on the radio,
be a stand up comedian, and be on TV. And
so it's wild that I'm five, right and already wanted that.

(16:22):
There was no one around me that did that. So
it's like where did that even come from? But you know,
you talk about manifesting, I feel like I just like
subconsciously and even consciously committed to it at five years old.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
So it was like I said it, I'm doing it.
But it's crazy you.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Have the same story, like you knew it and you're
looking at it now, isn't it kind of weird that kid,
even though your dad did it, even though it was
in the blood, even though it was in the house.
But still from fourth grade you knew and here you
are now.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I mean even before fourth grade I knew. But
I mean I think about it all the time. And
I don't believe in coincidences either.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Man.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I think and I try to tell people as like,
even young kids. I try to tell like, man, just
whatever you want to be you you can do what
you want to do.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Got to work hard.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
It's not gonna be given to you. You can do
whatever you want to do. Just tell yourself you're going
to do it, and don't listen to anybody else because
they're the first people that'll talk you out of it,
or you know, make some negative comment. I'm in my
buddies like, ah, you ain't going to Nashville, Like, oh,
you're not going to do this. You're not gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
People that can't or are scared to do it are
often the ones to tell other people they can't do it.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, And as soon as you tell yourself you're not
going to do it, you're not gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
I have a very similar feeling about life.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I think the world is completely bendable. Yep.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Weird to say and feel, but I think everything is negotiable. Everything,
And like you know, you me or from tiny towns,
Oh yeah, nobody gets out of those towns to do
where I come from, nobody did.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
It.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Was like Disney Disneyland was like the stuff on TV
to move to Nashville to I want to do TV again.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
That was Disneyland.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
That was like crazy big bunnies and like that wasn't
real yep. And there wasn't anybody there to say you
can't do it. But there definitely wasn't anybody to say
you could because nobody.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Did it right there.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
How influential was your dad on either way on I
just want you to do what you want to do,
or if you want to do music, like let me
guide you a little bit.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
So, I mean, my dad took pride in the fact
that I wanted to go do music right But my
dad was and my mom both were also the type
it didn't matter what I wanted to do, they were
behind it. If I was to say I'm gonna go
to college, then okay, you go to if I didn't
want to go to college, which I didn't. They weren't
the parents like, no, you need to do this, you

(18:49):
need to do that, right, They were just they pretty
much let me decide what I wanted to do in
life and never I mean, the only thing my dad
told me, like this is probably of the best advice
I ever got. I didn't realize it at the time,
was it's not an overnight success.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
You know, it can be for some people.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Well, it also looks like it for everybody whenever you're
from far away. Yeah, it looks like everybody just got
famous one day. Yeah, but as your dad knew and
as you know now, God dang, it is so the opposite.
Even for people that have overnight success, it ain't overnight.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, No, it's not overnight. And I mean sometimes I'm
really bad about this. It's like I get so caught
up and looking in the future. What's next? What am
I gonna do? How am I gonna do this? How
am I going to keep this thing going? You know
that I forget to sit back and go Yeah, it
may have. It took some time for me. You know,

(19:44):
I was twenty five twenty six before I have my
first hit and has it moved as quickly since then
as I would want?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (19:55):
But at the same time, I have to sit back
and go, Man, but look what everything that's happened, Look
what's happened so far. You know, look where I'm at.
I'm exactly where I wanted to be living in Nashville.
I'm more a bus We're playing music to a bunch
of fans, sold out shows, and we've had number ones,
and you know, you forget that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Sometimes.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
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Speaker 2 (20:30):
Good perspective. I think myself included.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
And I bet if we got ten creatives in whatever
way at different levels of success, and we said, how
do you feel about it? I just don't feel like
I'm doing it fast enough. I don't feel like I don't.
It drives me crazy. Yeah, Like I'm like, I'm not
where I want to be.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm not moving at the rate I think I should
be moving.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Like there's places where progression has completely stalled.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I'm really bad about the stalling part.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Like I feel like I'm just like sitting in limbo
when really there's a lot going on right. It's just
I feel like I'm sitting in limbo. And what I
used to be really bad about in my twenties, really
all through life until my late.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Twenties early thirties, when I figured it out.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I used to sit back and look at everybody else
and try to compare situations, Well, why is this happening
for them?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
And why is this not happening blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
And I used to wear myself out over it, you know,
and then one day, I don't know if it's just
getting older. I don't know if it's having three kids
now that keep my mind somewhere else, or my wife.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
But I don't feel that way anymore. You know.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
It's just like, hey, I'm having fun. It is what
it is. I don't care what anybody else is doing.
I'm super happy for everybody. I just got to worry
about what's going on in my life, and that's when
I got really happy.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Does your dad keep playing music a little bit at home?

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Like did he play for fun or met in church,
played in church and keep a guitar in the house,
kept a guitar in the house together, but not a
ton man?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Did he teach you how to play. Yeah, he taught
me guitar.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
He taught me the cores I needed to learn, and
after that, I mean it was pretty much kind of
on my own in a way. I mean I'd be
in my bedroom playing guitar singing, and he'd walk in
and open the door and he'd look at me and go,
you're over singing and just shut the door all back out,
you know, But it's really it. I mean, most everything

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I've done by ear. I learned piano when I was
super young. Try to take lessons and piano teacher calls
my dad. She's like, I really can't teach him. Like
if I play anything, he'll just learn it by ear
without reading it. Like, I don't know what I can
do here, So I've just kind of all picked it
up on my own. I mean, my dad has taught

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me a lot, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
But I picture you like screaming out of the womb
like this.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I remember playing basketball like outside in the neighborhood as
a kid.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Buddies be like, man, your voice is deep? Was it
always deep? I mean I guess for a kid it was, yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
I mean, if you're a was there a like a
puberty where it just kind of did that or was
it always just deep and it just got a little deeper.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
I think it was just deep as a kid and
got deeper. I mean I remember going through obviously puberty
and he had the little but it wasn't nothing crazy.
It wouldn't like all of a sudden, whoa, what just happened?
I don't remember that anyway away.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
For my boys get deeper, like my puberty hits me.
I'm gonna be so cool. I'ma have a good voice.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Your kids, are they all boys?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Or two boys and a girl? So the oldest is
seven Beckett, he's a boy, and then it's my little girl, Findley,
she's five. And then we have a year and a
half year old boy, Baron, and we're done anymore.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Is there any connection to the names? No?

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Just whatever whatever my wife wanting. Yeah, i'd say whatever,
not whatever. She throws some stuff out that I turned down,
really quo.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
But so you had veto, but you let her for
the most part. Yeah. And a lawnmower got me, She
got you, She got me. She better be last. She's
pretty man.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
On the side on the Lawnmore. When did you sing
in public and not just in front of your parents.
But when did you ever sing in front of people
that didn't know you?

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, I mean I've sing in church my whole life.
I was in a gospel trio with two other girls.
We traveled around for a couple of years when I
was a teenager, like fourteen, fifteen years old.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
What was her name?

Speaker 1 (24:33):
It's called eleventh Hour, which eleventh Hour is still around.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
They're still doing their thing that.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
It's actually a pretty cool name. A lot of times
when people go, I was in at something at fifteen,
it's kind of like, that's a good name.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, eleventh Hour man.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
So we were you know, Southern gospel music, and they've
i mean they've had hits on Southern gospel radio and stuff,
so it's really cool.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
But I mean I used to play a little I
don't know what you call them.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
That's a thing called the Louisiana hay Ride background from
which is kind of iconic.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Elvis used to play. A bunch of guys used to
play it.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
But we'd played the little small town theater shows with
the house Bam. That's where I met Laney Wilson. She's
from the town over from a and we were sup
from basketing fourteen basketin ye yeah, we were fourteen, fifteen
years old and met her at one of those one.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Of those shows.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I was about to walk on stage, had gum on
my misle. She puts her hand out, she goes, give
me your gum, So, are you serious? She's like, give
me your gum. So I put my gum in her
hand and been buddies ever since. So we've been doing
that a long time. That's pretty cool. Yeah, the two
people from two small towns.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yep, right there together playing the same little shows and
now here, Yeah, playing basically same shows. Yep. Yeah's that's
a good one. Yep.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
When you moved here, you say you were nineteen. I
think you said you were twenty five twenty six before
you had a hit.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
What were those years?

Speaker 6 (25:52):
Like?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
What were you doing nineteen to twenty five twenty six?

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Just a lot of a lot of writing here in town,
meeting a lot of songwriters.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
And then I hit the road.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I bought a nineteen ninety nine black Ford van from
some bluegrass group in Kentucky and they converted it into
like a little that's some little bunks in it.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I thought I was thought I had it going on,
you know, But we hit the road, playing shows for
five hundred dollars a night for nobody, you know, around
the whole country.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
We were driving this van.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Tell me about a small show, Like what comes to
mind if I say, tell me about a small show?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Six people in Montana at a bar. That's a small show.
And I mean, you got to understand, we had no
hits at the time, but we were putting music out
and I didn't know how I was going to do it.
I had no I mean, six people, full band show.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
That's tough, Like, how do you maintain an appropriate energy? Yeah,
for six people? And I don't know. I mean.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Who I was back then to now is just night
and day. A buddy of mine from from that same
band that from the very beginning sent me a video
the other day of us on stage, and I said, man,
I said, who is that kid?

Speaker 2 (27:12):
And why would anybody give him a record deal? Why
do you say that? What was different about that.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Hid The body, mannerisms of how I performed, the way
I sung was totally different, just everything.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
It was just like I just if that kid would
have if I'm at.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
A record label today, and that kid myself early on
walk into the room. I've been like, I don't know,
that's my opinion anyway.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
But didn't that kid try? And they said, I don't
know until you got better.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I mean, I got a record deal before I graduated
high school? Wait what? Yeah? Like what how started coming
to town at sixteen? What the crap? You got a record?
I had two offers.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I had two record deal offers before I graduated high school,
one from Curb Records and one from Warner Brothers.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Those are real labels.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yeah, that was going to be like from Westland Dixie
Record Company, like a guy that worked.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Man, It's like getting back to what we were talking
about earlier, manifesting stuff and no coincidence and believing that.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
It's like, I don't know how. I just knew that.
That's why I was gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
What they hear, what they hear from you at seventeen,
you obviously like had a CD or something, right.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, And I mean I'm not saying I was terrible,
you know, It's just the way I sung and the
way I carried myself.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I was just like, man, what do these people see?
But I don't know, dude.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
I was I was doing, like the really old school
country stuff like I grew up a huge Keith Whitley fan,
and obviously my dad with his past, like I grew
up on the old stuff, and so when I moved
to town like I was, I guess what I was
trying to do was be something that I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
As far as the way I sung, I was gonna say,
did you try to sing like Keith Whitley?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, pure Whitley, pure, Yeah, not that you're not.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's a different textually.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
And completely different, completely different, in my opinion, just one
of the best voices there will ever be. But yeah,
And I think I just had to find myself as
all it was. And I think those little shows for
six people in that van and going and doing it
every weekend is what got me better. Being in the
studio and singing made me find who I was as

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not only a person, but as a singer.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
I did a show at the Rhyman last night, and
it doesn't matter who the artist is, but they're super
successful now. But I think what you're saying lends to
what I was explaining to some of my friends after
the show, is that there are certain artists they get
famous so fast because of technology, right, but they do

(29:51):
not have the skills to actually sing because they haven't
had to do it in tiny places, in small places.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
How to do it?

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Sick, learn how to do it three nights in a row,
learn how to and so they can have massive songs.
They can have success in that way, but they haven't
been given the time or the ability to actually learn
how to one do it to find themselves and they
are who they are and there's almost nowhere for them

(30:22):
to go in a weird way, they're kind of trapped.
It's a great place to be trapped at first, but
they're kind of trapped but they don't have that skill.
And then at times it can end up because everybody
records everything, it can end up on social media and
people like this person sucks when really they don't suck.
They just haven't learned how to sing. And I don't
mean how to sing, but I mean how to sing

(30:45):
as a career, good days, bad days, when you're sad.
How much can you drink before like all the stuff
that you talk about that you did, like finding yourself.
I think that's so important for people to hear because
you're in the middle of it.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
You're going, man, it's kind of was.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
I got eleven people here and all you know, and
all I got is an apple, like the writers, an
apple and an old warm mad dog.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, you know, but I think that's so it's so valuable.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
For you and in finding myself what I mean for
me anyway, it was actually literally finding myself because I
was trying to be something I wasn't and again I
was trying to be part of it, what my dad
wanted me to be, or what these labels thought they
wanted me to be, or whoever else was in my ear.
You know, it was like finding the true me.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
But I think if you had like one American Idol,
for example, and you didn't know who you were as
a vocalist as what you wanted to say, you would
have been Dylan who won American Idol, and that's what
everybody would have known you for. Yeah, that's your stamp.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
So getting back to what we was talking about while ago,
as far as it's taken me a long time to
get to where I'm at, I'm grateful for that because
I really think if I would have had success early on,
I might not be around anymore, or I might be
something that I'm not today right. My wife said the
other day was talking about something and whatnot, and maybe

(32:13):
the same conversation. She's like, it's just all in God's playing, you.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Know, just do you.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
It's gonna whatever's going to happen is going to happen,
you know. So just keep pushing along doing your thing,
and it'll happen when it's supposed to happen. And that's
the same way with my music careers. Like it happened
when it was supposed to happen and how it was
supposed to happen.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
What labeled you sayn with it? Seventeen curb breakers? Like
you're still on the same level. Yeah, I been there
almost fifteen years. That's crazy. That's an anomaly.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, And I mean not the fifteen years, the fact
that took you ever many years seventeen to hold you
and you had to.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Hit I'm thirty when I had to hit Yeah, Oh
I was like twenty six.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Maybe nine years out of label.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, no commercial success. I'm sure they saw a lot
in you. But to have you for nine years and
you're still there nine years of We'll call it nothing.
It's not nothing, but it's growing and they kept you yeah,
not common.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, And that's that's another That's why I'm grateful for
all that. You know, look back and you know record
labels or record labels, you know, everybody can say anything
they want about them.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
And it's with any business too. There's always good and
there's always bad.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
But in my situation, it's like, man, I don't really
have anything bad to say. They've stuck with me from
the time I was a kid trying to find hisself,
and you know, it's and it was a tough road too,
because like when I signed with Curb Records, they opened
up a subsidiary label called Sidewalk Records, and I was
nobody at the time.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
They still had Tim mcgrawl guys like that, and so.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
They were putting all of their I would call them
c X and maybe BX over on Sidewalk just to
spread it out a little bit. So I got moved over,
and it was tough. I hit radio tour with nobody
explaining to me what radio tour was, and so I
walked into the first station I went to, not knowing

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what I was supposed to do. There was you know,
it's just so much stuff to it back then. I
look back now and go, man, if I just had
somebody to tell me, hey, you need to do here's
what we're going to do, you know, maybe learn how
to do this or do that or and so I
was like this shy kid that And I really wasn't shy,
but I came across that way because I had no
idea what was going.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
On, you know. And so we had failed singles and this,
this and that, and.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Honestly, what really got me back over to the curb
side where I needed to be was just YouTube, social media.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
We wouldn't really release some music.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
And so I told myself, I'm not going to sit
here and wait for somebody to make me make my
career for me.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
He's like, I want to do it myself. And so
I started writing.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Songs and making little homemade videos with buddies and throwing
them on YouTube, and it started gaining success and that
led to other things, and they're like, oh, we need
to do something.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
So got back over on curb. And that's for their
hand a little bit. I had to. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Not that not that they didn't believe, it's just that
they had other things to go, and they had bigger
fish to fry.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Well, they had money that they had. They had to
cover their own butts and make money so they didn't
lose their job. Yeah, and with an unproven entity, if
they continue to invest in it and it doesn't make
money back, they lose their job. Like I understand the
logic and why they wouldn't. I'm surprised, and not because
it's you that after failed singles, they were like, we

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still believe in you.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Let's keep going, even if it's a movie. To sidewalk,
who was it? Who?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Like, who do you look at at that time? That
was like the one that believed in you.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Def Turf is a guy over there who from day
one has just always been there for me. He's on
the marketing side of things, creative side of things. But
I don't it's a hard question because I don't know
if there's I don't know if there's anybody that just
didn't believe in me.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
But somebody had to be like, that's our dude. Yeah,
And maybe you don't know who they are or were.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
I mean, I really, I really don't know how that
all happened collectively, you know, I don't know what really
went on there, but I did once I got back
to Curb, So I had probably two I think I
had two felt singles at Sidewalk.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
What were they?

Speaker 1 (36:34):
My first single was a song called making This Boy
Go Crazy. And when I say failed single, like it
didn't obviously.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Thirty two twenty sevenths.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Oh no, no, no, didn't make top forty, you know, but
it's streamed well. And then we put out another song.
I think it was a song called Lay It on Me.
It didn't really do much stream decently, and it was
at that point that were like, man, these streaming numbers
look pretty decent for a note body.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
And so that's when.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
They moved me back over to Curb and we put
out a song called Crazy over Me, which did go
to like thirty two, thirty one. And then it was
the next single, which was my Girl was my first
number one?

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Uh, crazy over Me? So he said, crazy over Me?

Speaker 3 (37:16):
When that goes to thirty one or thirty two after
your moved back to the big label, is that a
success to you? Or because it wasn't a top ten
and you just got put back on we'll call it.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
The big leagues? Or was does it feel like a
man failed again. Yeah, failed again.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
It wasn't the success, even though it was your highest.
I mean, in my eyes, not failings. Number one, you know,
I mean, not number two, not number three. I want
to be number I will have the number one song.
That's what that's what we're what we're here for have
a number one song. And so when we went to
thirty two, thirty one something like that, I mean I was,

(37:51):
I was fired up right and with top forty single,
this is cool. We're getting played on quite a few stations,
and I was, uh, I remember them.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Calling me and just like we lost it.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
I mean, that's that was devastating, because it's like, man,
am I ever going to have a number one at
that point? And then once you do have a number one,
you're still like, God, am I gonna be a one
hit wonder?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
It never ends, never ends. That's so funny. He said that, I.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Have a very close friend who had a number one
hit this last year and he spent forever trying to
just get on the charts, gets a number one if
he had another one, Yeah, but then he's like.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
What am I gonna do? I'm like, what do you mean
when you do?

Speaker 3 (38:34):
I want to be a failure if I don't like, dude,
four months ago, you were begging for a top ten
just so you'd have another shot to have a song.
But I do that too, right, It's like we got
it and then we start hyper focusing in an unhealthy way.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Very unhealthy. But you gotta be that way. Well, yes,
not unhealthy, but you got to have that drive.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Drive is different than an unhealthy expectation. I have full
I'm full of unhealthy expectations, and I also have drive.
I try to balance them. Most of mine is very unhealthy.
I'm mentally very unhealthy. You get no men more mentally
unhealthy than me. I'm so competitive. I want to kill
everybody and everything all the time. So you're talking, we're
talking out of the same mouth here. Yeah, But when

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it's somebody else, you have a bit more perspective, which
is what's odd. And I have a couple of friends
that will lend me perspective in the same situation and like,
you're out of your mind, here's why.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
And with my friend, I'm like, you're out of your mind,
here's why.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Before you start to not sleep at night because you're
worried about being a one hit wonder, how about when
you didn't sleep, worrying if you're ever going to get
a hit or be able to keep doing music full
time to pay the bills.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, well that's that's where I was, and I'm sure
that's where he was as well.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean after my girl. I just
had my first son, so I've got my wife, I've
got a kid. I mean, I'm starting my life really
and I have a number one song.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
The money's going up a little bit, the shows are good. Everything,
guarantees are getting bigger on them.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, like everything's great. Like I'm supporting my family doing
music now. I don't want to lose that.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
You know.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
It's like that's why you don't want to be a
one hit wonder and you start stressing about it, like okay,
I got to keep this going.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Because this is how I pay the bills. Hey, how
fast did my girl move? Like?

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Oh, none of my stuff's moves quick. See so revision
you see something weak? Okay, that's crazy revision. But that's
every in my head is like that was a quick
one because it's because it's lasted.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Because now it's still what they would call like a recurrent,
like it still gets played because it's still one.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Of our biggest songs. That's which is crazy to me.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
So in my mind, I didn't live in the forest,
which you did. In my mind, I was like, yeah, dude,
dump with that song out. Twenty weeks later, number one
went on to the next one.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
That ain't what happened.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
No, every one of my singles are they're slow, but
there's here's what.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Happens with with my stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
It's every single, every single one of them.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
It takes forever to get.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
To the twenties top thirty, forever, but once it gets
to top thirty in the twenties super quick.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
There's a real marsh about forty five to thirty. It's
hard to fight through that marsh. Yes, because there's a
lot of songs, a lot from a lot of artists
that are just trying to, like you say, break into
that because then you get what they would call research.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
And I'm not a music director. I'm not a music guy.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Every once in while I play something I like, but
I got out of that world and I just do
content at this point. But when I was in that space,
like if you could get to what you're talking about,
I'm glad you said that, because then they would have research,
and then once you got some good research, they freaking
shoot you like a rocket ship. It was just so

(41:52):
hard to get from that forty five to twenty eight area. Yep,
when you hit top twenty five, I did feel like
the horse was moving a little bit. Oh it was flying,
yeah every time, Like every week it was like bullet moving.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, every time.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
And it's just blowing up and they're coming back like, oh,
research is showing number one song on our market or
number top five or whatever, like yeah, you know, And
but I mean, knock on wood. I mean, hopefully we're fixing.
We're fixing our six number one. And I mean it's
been the same way and nothing's changed, and I don't
hold I mean, at this point, I understand the business

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a lot better and I don't stress about that anymore either,
Like it just is what it is. Like we're having fun.
Everything else is good. And you've got other avenues now too.
You know, it's it's radio and it's streaming and it's
out playing your shows and building a fan base.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Like everything is good.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
So I mean, don't get me wrong, I would love
to have a single that moved twenty five.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
You way healthier. You're way healthier than I have.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
And hear you talk and I like, I wish I
had a little bit of that, Like, because here's why
I be frustrated.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
I don't want to trigger you. Here's why I be frustrated.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
And I feel like there are two artists that suffer
and let me go ahead and spoiler, you're one of
them that suffer from not getting the benefit of having
big success because other people have two or three songs,
and all of a sudden, it's like, we'll get him
to the marsh pretty quick.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
We'll get the research a lot quicker because we just
know that.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
So there have been artists with less that have been
given bigger benefits. And the two artists that I go,
they make hits. It's crazy they don't get that, is
you for sure? Because again, you're about to do You're
about to do six after three. They got to be like,

(43:45):
why don't we just you know, look at the past,
and Dylan's been able to crush it and then let's okay,
let's listen to the song doesn't suck, no, okay, and
he's able to crush it and all the other things
I've researched well, So I get frustrated, not for you personally,
because it's not like you and I hang out, so
I don't like his friends, know, but as somebody who
is a creative himself. I get frustrated for you in

(44:07):
that way. And there's one other person. Can you name
the other person? Not person, a group, A group, Yeah,
I don't know, parmly, parmally, Yeah, it's and nobody nobody
goes let's just they've done it four or five times.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, they would.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
They should be able to get that that benefit of
the doubt to at least get up into like the
twenties without having some massive research because everything else has research.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
It's like, you're crap, you're healthy. Good for you. I'd
be going freaking crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Well, I mean I still do I want to trigger you, See,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
I don't want to trigger. You're not trigger going to look.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
I guess I've just, like I said earlier, having kids.
Now maybe it's just getting older. It's uh, other things
going on in my life as well. I mean, we
can get to this, but I mean I've I've got
a trash business in Louisiana that I deal with every
day with a body of mine, my business partner. It's
like I just have other things in life or worry about.
But I reached a point of life where there's a

(45:07):
lot of things that's just out of my control.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Like I can't control that. I can't.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
I can be the nicest dude, I can be the
most outgoing person I could. There's so much I could
do that's still it's not gonna matter. I can't control
how quick something moves or you know whatever. The only
thing I can control is writing the music, putting out
the best music I can my social media and showing

(45:33):
my life and gaining and gaining fans and playing shows
and playing the best show I can. That's all I
really can do. I can't make a single move faster.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Well, I get a little pis for you if you
want to know, well, I appreciate that. And mostly, and
I say this in the most complimentary way, it's not
even about you. It's about you and what this data
has shown. Because it's always a gadagadaganna.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Well, numbers don't lie.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Sure, then since they don't lie, then why don't we
you those numbers? And there's a couple people that aren't
getting the benefit of the numbers, and you're to me,
you're one of those who if we're going to use data,
if we're going to say A, B and C, get
it because of this. Well here's d who's done more
than that, has better data, and you guys are just

(46:17):
like holding holding them back waiting again anyway. No, we're
moving off because I get but.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
It's more to it than even trash business. I need
trash business. Yeah, I'm not talking about ready on all
of it. Yeah. Award shows, man, that's right. What my
freaking head is playing them being a presenter. I know
you can get back. I don't want to put you nominated.
You know. That's why.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Once again it's like, do I still get aggravated about
that stuff? No doubt you think I want to sit
at home on the couch with I mean, because I
do this my little boy right here watching the award
show and not being there, Like no, I want to
be there. But I promise you I'm not fixing a
go just walk a red carpet because I want people
to go look at me, look at me, like that's
not who I am.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
So I just don't Oh.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Dude, same now, I don't. I want no offense to
the color red or carpets.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Love them both. Yeah, I don't do them anymore. I
want to host.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
I have every credential to host these shows, meaning I
just had a comedy special on CMT, I've been touring
stand up.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I have massive platform.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
I have had four TV shows, Like everything about it
right has been. There is no way that I shouldn't
have hosted one of these award shows, the one the
I won't say which one one. I tend to get
triggered quickly with you don't I need a trash business?

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
I got a call a couple of years ago like hey,
we want you to host the big, big one, and
I'm like, finally, Like there's nothing more that I could do,
data wise, and I've trained in every way, like on
the road doing stand up all the time. It doesn't matter.
I even wrote jokes for one of the award shows.

(48:04):
No credit wrote jokes. I swear to god, they stole
them and used them and never credit to me. But
I was like, so anyway, they call them, they go, hey,
I want you to host.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
The show, and I'm like, finally, let's go.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
And like three days before they were announcing it, they
call and go, hey, we've had some we'll call them
political issues.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
You can't we can't let you host it. Devastated and from.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Then I'm like, I'm not going. I'm not presenting anymore.
I'm not doing red carpets because I don't want to
do that. I want to do that, and I try
to not get angry. But I don't have a son
to put on my lap, so I put a bulldog
on my lap.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
But he don't care. Didn't know award show is, so
it's worse. But you're yeah, I'm sure, yeah. I mean
he doesn't know what the TV is. He just thinks
a box of color. Because as an artist, man, it's
like you see all these.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Other once again you get back to looking at other people,
which I don't really get into that anymore, but you
do a little bit and you see and it's like, man,
why why can't I Why can't I walk out on
the stage and go in the winter is or whatever?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
You know, just something.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
It's funny we said at war shows at the same time,
because I think about that with you. Yeah, that's how
you know I'm not lying, because right when you said that,
I was also talking about a ward shows for you,
because I'm like, how do you not play a ward shows?

Speaker 2 (49:14):
You know?

Speaker 1 (49:16):
But you know it all boils down to a lot
of things. That's the way it's political show. Yeah, I
mean just you know, could it be well, I'm not
going to.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Get into that. I don't want you to do. I'm
moving off. It's all good.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
What's your favorite candy tag? There you go, New Truck,
different kind of energy to the song.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
You know, a lot of your stuff is super personal.
Feels like that way to me.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Maybe I just see your social media you and that's
very personal. So a lot of what you do feels personal.
New Truck feels I don't know, like up fun. Not
that it's not personal, but I feel like it doesn't
try to be as personal on purpose.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Is that true or no?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
New Truck was I guess the point of me going, man,
I got a lot of love songs here, and they work.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
The love songs work for me.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Just because of my life and how I live it
and what I do.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Show on social media.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
And I was like, I don't want to back myself
into the love song corner where I'm just out playing
a bunch of love songs. So I had to do
something different which New Truck. That's when I kind of
shifted that corner.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
A little bit. Yeah, it just felt good. It was
up tempo, up tempo breakup song. It was kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
And so since then, since New Truck, I mean we
did have can't have mine, but even like this town's
been too good to us.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Our single now.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
It's you know, the songs crushing, Yeah, I mean yeah,
it's doing well.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
You know what, how do we strategize this?

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I want you to present an award shope, I want
you to play on an award show. But okay, if
you want to crawl before you walk? Fine, what do
we do? Not even by me about you?

Speaker 2 (50:50):
What do we do? Who's your who's your agent? Like,
don't say a person? Who's your company? As far as
my booking management?

Speaker 3 (50:57):
No? Not an agent first, like I'm a uta William
Moore's okay, who's your management?

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Kpe? Oh yeah sure she'll cut somebody's throat, oh no doubt. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
I need to call Carrie and be like, what do
you want? How do you want me to plaster this?
Because I'll get annoyed with something and I will just
beat it to oblivion where people want to kill me
and then I know I've done it right. Yeah, Like
even just hanging out with you, I'm re annoyed for you.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
You don't have to be re annoyed.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
No, I know I don't have to be, but I
think I am because I maybe because I'm so selfish.
I see me and you and you and me, and
that we're both like, what the crap, man, We've done
everything freaking possible. But like I'm kind of just working
on it. Like after today, I'm working on it.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
You know.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
You hear people going, oh, we're bitter or we're jaded
to the business.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Hey, I'm not bitter or jaded. I'm not bitter one bit.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Like I love everything about everybody. What's going on, this
is great, you know, so, but I don't know, man,
I just once again got to.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
The point where it's like I'm texting carry.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
I don't need only an award. I don't need a trophy,
you know. I mean, dude, we are selling shows out
across this country, you know, every night, tons of fans
showing up, people know the music, everything's going well. You know,
It's just we know how the business works sometimes and
we know by winning an award is a good look

(52:21):
and it can move the needle on things, but it ain't.
I guess what I'm trying to say. I'm just look,
I've never had the industry just go hey, let's go
do this. You know, like I'm not on all the
big what do you call it, like social media platforms.
They're not talking about me, they're not doing this, they're
not doing that.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
But you also have a big social media falling. So
it's like you've built a base, a massive base. It's
a it's a it's a dichotomy for sure, because you're like,
I don't have ever been like he's the coolest, he's
the trendy, yes something, Yet you have a massive following
that you have built your own.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Sometimes I just wonder if my life's just not as
interesting as others, you know, like I'm not the guy
that's out man, I'm not out there partying making a scene.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
I think that question is wrong. I think it's not.
Am I not as interesting? Because I think you are
very interesting because again, just look at data, look at
your numbers, look your follow it, look at your white
look at what you guys do. Right, You're consistently interesting
to a lot of people. I think some of that
quick flash that doesn't last, that's not there, but that's

(53:32):
not what you're trying to do. But you can't say,
am I not interesting? Because dude, people talk more about
what you're doing on social media because that stuff always changes,
like a song exists for like you said, it took
a year for a song to be number one, Like
people talk about your social media. I hear people to
talking about it randomly, So wrong question to ask.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yeah, I don't know what the question is, Like I
don't know what. I don't know what it.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Is, but yeah, I just text your manager and I'm like,
tell me what to do, tell me what to do
because that's no.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
But when I ask her, I mean business, Yeah she knows.
I mean business. I just wonder.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Sometimes it's like, man, like our stream, like my next
single I'm putting out at radio, you know yet what
it's called, what I'll never have? I mean, it's got
over two hundred million streams already and it's not even
it's a year this month it's been out. I mean
it's one hundred and fifty of those on me and
on just Spotify, you know. So it's like, man, Sometimes

(54:30):
I go, dude, if we if we had some of
the industry push, like the award shows, and we's in
that light a little bit or on these platforms on
social media. Wonder what it be then, you know, because
there's a huge fan base we haven't tapped into yet.
I've been on one major tour, one major tour the
whole time I've been in town, which one was that
Luke Bryn.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
And you know what is awesome but also sucks about
that awesome because I love Luke. Luke and I are friends.
We worked together four years outside of this place, worked
in idle for four years, and so I know Carrie.
So Carrie once got in a fight for me against
a big Hollywood person once and it was the most
legit thing I've ever seen where I was like, she'll
take a box cutter to some And Carrie's is not
my manager. But I love Carrie and she has like

(55:15):
she I could tell you off air, she went hard
at somebody.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
For me, what's awesome is Luke's awesome. But what is
I hate doing this?

Speaker 3 (55:22):
I hate I don't know, I'm drigging, but I'm mad
for you. But Luke is Carrie's your manager and she
has the ability to go.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
So yeah, or tray of cereal.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
I had frosted flakes this morning, probably Cinnemente's crunch.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Let's let's do some I don't want to be frustrated
for you anymore.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
Okay, so let's take a quick pause for a message
from our sponsor, and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
This town's been uhe you had two good. I was
doing the countdown this morning and it's five, I believe you. Yeah,
has that one? That one feels like it's moved a
little faster? Or is it that one was moving with
the other one with you and the other Dylan, And
it just feels like you've, like you biquitous Dylan?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Is that Do you think that's what that one is? Yeah? Okay, yeah, this.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
One feels like you've been around more. But it's because
you had two at once.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Yeah, that's all it is. It's still just as long.
What how did you guys do? The moment? Was up
with that song Boys back Home? Yeah? Yeah, Dylan.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
I took Dylan out on his first tour a couple
of years ago and we just hit it off. He's
just he's a good one. He's just a good old
boy and he's a good performer. He's a good singer.
And he was playing me that song, played me Boys
back Home, and I just told him, I said, man,
and he played me. He played me like five or
six and boys wasn't like the one he was fired

(56:55):
up about. It was another one was like a slower song,
and it was great. But in my mind, I was
like the wheels already turning, like I never had anybody
go hey, dude, come on, let's let's do something together.
Let's let's do a song. Let's blah blah blah blah.
And I told myself early on, I was like, I
will if I believe in somebody, and I like somebody,

(57:16):
I'm going to help them, whether they've had a single,
whether they're on a record label, I don't care. Like,
if I can help somebody, like, I'm all for it.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Do you think a part of that is? One?

Speaker 3 (57:25):
I think your solid, dude, but two, because it'd been
nice if somebody would have jumped in with you like that.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah, I mean it'd been cool.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
You know, a young kid in town, like I go
back to that kid and I'm like, man, it would
have been so cool if and it's nobody's fault.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
It's just the way it played out.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
But I just told myself, like, man, I want to
I want to be that guy if I can, you know,
like be a bigger brother to somebody. And he played
me Boys back Home and it was up tempo, and
I just loved how it felt and it felt like
a great collab and I went in and put my
vocal on it. The next week, he'd have a record deal,
and I remember taking it, yeah, and I remember taking
it to Curb and I said, uh, said, hey, listen

(58:04):
to this, like we need we need to put this out,
and they were like they were playing the whole game
of like, guys, you don't have a record deal. Well,
as soon as he gets a record deal, I took
it back to him and they were on board to
do and whatnot. But yeah, man, I'm just glad it
worked out the way.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Let me use another piece of data here. As far
as like getting radio player, there were only three artists
that had more than you over the last year. It
was Jelly Rowl, Morgan Wallen, don't tell me the other
one post line that's it, and you fourth.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
I've been hearing some stats like this. I don't keep
up with the stats stuff. But I've been hearing a
couple of stats here lately, and I'm just like, it's
kind of interesting, you know.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Yeah, Yeah, I feel like at times like my podcast
numbers are monster, right, I mean not as in you know,
but like they're monster. And I feel at times, and
I'll put it on me that maybe I don't educate
people enough.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
To know.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
The capabilities that I have and the platform that I've
created in it. I will put some of it on
me as well, meaning everyone's like, we need to find
this person pot this podcast, and it's like your radio
show is big, and I'm like, you have no idea,
you should look at the podcast numbers, and so a
bit I do put it on me too, where it's

(59:34):
like I think I could educate people. It's tough, though,
to educate and not sound freaking cocky as crap. Sure,
there's a difference in confidence and arrogance, and I bounce
back and forth. There's no real way to walk that
and that it's a tough thing to do. But if
you were to, you can't really wear a shirt that
says that, hey, yeah, only three people are beating me

(59:56):
and it's post malone jelly. But yeah, it's that's the
that's the trick, Like, how do you educate folks so
they understand exactly what they're not seeing?

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Yeah, like you said, I don't know how I do it,
you know, without being cocky.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
And that's that's unluckily too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
You know I have a great accounts Yeah, I have
a great team around me as far as label and
management and my agents. Like I just it's kind of
their their job and they're laying to go make that happen.
You know, I can't. I mean, I don't even know
where I who would even who would I even talk to?
Hey man, I was the or girl, I was the

(01:00:34):
fourth blah blah blah blah without, like you said, sounding cocky,
I just started it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yeah, I did a little bit right there. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
This podcast is a rather large podcast, and I know
there are a lot of industry people that listen to
this podcast would just like to say it's like a
political add The guy's killing it. It's not even that
I need to convince you he's good. Be like, trust me,
if you don't have to dig, if you just just

(01:01:05):
go to his page, just go to one of the
streaming sites page, go to Spotify to look at the
numbers beside him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Look at the number of hits that are radio hits.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Look at a social media the fact that he's not
even presenting on an award show. You guys messing up.
So I'm encouraging you vote. Vote for Dylan Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
And this ad is brought to you by box Water
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with them, that would be nice. Oh. I have a
deal with the environment though, that's why we use this.
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
They don't pay me though, and I'll never actually see it.
I'll be dead before it actually pays off. Yeah, that
show biz though part of it. Yeah. Uh, man, good
job hanging there. I'm talking to me and you at
the same time. I'm talking to me, but you're here too.
A good job, man, hanging there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
You can do it. You're killing it. You're killing it. Oh,
it's all good on this end, man, how and everybody
Holme's good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Family's good, family's great kids, great Beckett starting baseball practicing
right now, he's killing it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
I didn't play baseball growing up. I wish I did.
My dad was the type. He was like, sure, you
want to waste your whole summer.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
In other words, I really don't want you to play
played basketball. So I'm loving the baseball phase with Beacon.
He's really good. I'm not saying it because he's my kid.
Like he's really gravitating towards it and it's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
You put a little weights in their hands. No, what
does that do? I don't know. You're jacked.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Oh no, I haven't worked out since July. I haven't
lifted a weight since July. If this is residual, come
me in.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
I'd like some. I lost like ten pounds. Why would
you get sick?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
No, I just I've worked out my whole life almost
like you know, like eighteen almost every day religiously. I
did the deal, and I just kind of got burnt out.
And so it was a busy summer. Was on the
road a lot. I'm always a wake up after a
couple hours. He I'll go to a gym somewhere randomly.
And I just had a lot going on. Stressed, not

(01:03:02):
stressed about like I'm stressed out because something happened, just
a lot going on. Your body stressed, and it's like
I need to take a break. And I wanted to
take a break just to see what my body would
do because I'm thirty four now, like my metabolism slowing down?
I am I gonna get fat? Like what's gonna happen?
And it's been great honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Yeah, not too. U don't to worry of bragging about that,
are you? Yeah? Yeah, it's still good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
I'm like, I went and got a fit full physical
like all panels.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
All the blood, all had that done last week. Did
you your results back? I did. I got them met
a block age of twenty eight year old. Come on now,
they didn't tell me all that because you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
That's why they said everything is excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
I said, okay. They said, but you're cholesterol and I'm like,
uh oh, I got a little colesterol too.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
But you know what I didn't do. I didn't know
not to eat before I did it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
My crystal cholesterol is low. Oh really yeah, not high,
it's low. They told me that. How do is it
too low? I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
They said, eat more red meat, more fat, They said,
eat worse, eat more, eat worse.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
I need your doctor. He's a good one. I need
your doctor. He ain't just your doctor. You down the road.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
That's just like okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
He's out of Dallas. You have a concert. Oh okay,
you stay up a concierge doctor. I don't know what
that is, dude, I don't either, until so they come
to you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
So I'll be traveling so much. Right, come go to
the office, you wait and whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
And so my friend Brett was he's an art traveling artist.
He's like, you should get concierge doctor one. You can
call him anytime you're on the road. You're sick, you
god forbid, I have to take a steroid shot and
my voice is gone. But sometimes you have to. He's like,
they got you. And then yeah, anytime they come to you.
And yeah, it's a little expensive, but like for jobs

(01:04:49):
job like I have, it's convenience.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Yeah, it is. It pays for itself.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Yeah, and maybe he just told me I was twenty
because I pay extra. I and thinking about that till
right now, like you know, but uh he my cholesterol
was high and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
I just a little bit. And I was like, why
do you think that is? He said, before you came
in to do your work, when was the last time
you ate?

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
I was like, I don't know. An hour before some eggs.
He goes, you got a fast for twelve hours? He
goes you're eating chocolate whenever. Before we started, I was like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
It's a good point, and so I think mine could
be normal. Probably is, but it definitely ain't low. Uh, dude,
it's been so good to talk with you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Yeah, same here, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Just a couple of things. I know we mentioned some
of this early on. So the Country Till I Die tour,
it's a lot of shows.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
It threw abel. Oh, George is out with you. Yeah,
George's direct support. He got good.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Yeah, it's weird, Yeah, because he was always he was
always good, and he was and I take him out
and he'd opened shows and George is good, but like
he he had and you know this, you know I
work on't you get some confidence? It opens new doors
to you. He's like freaking good. Now it's weird. Like
I found him a pickleball and then I watch him
play and I'm like, dude, you like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
You got a couple of hit confidence there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
He's been doing a long time though he hasn't been
doing a long was the group before Oh this Daughterloo
Waterloo Revival and so what's wild about this?

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I knew George.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
I forget the other guy's name. I knew them back
in those days. He's doing radio tour stuff together. And
then I didn't see George for a while, and then
I ran into him and I almost didn't recognize him
without the group, you know, And when it clicked finally,
I was like, this is really cool. He's doing what
he's doing and it's working and quit is that what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
He was just writing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
He was like, I'm just gonna write, and then you
put a song. Clay Walker was like, hey, you should
put that song on TikTok and he's like, I want
to be a TikTok guy, and which is what everybody
says before they realize if you do it right, it's
not corny.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Yeah, there's a difference. There's corny, there's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Corny and then there and you gotta be corny sometimes, but.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
There's also not corny. And so we put it up,
started to get a little little heat. Next thing, you know,
he's like, I guess I'll try it. And it's been awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
And there's a fine line of being an influencer as well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Wait for somebody tell me to you right now?

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
What no use my promo code?

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
I think Amy called me an influencer. I'm like, I'm
not an influencer, man, Like, we ain't got to. I
walked out of a Slim Chickens the other day and
this girl was walking in and she goes, you're that
TikTok guy. I said, no, I'm not. I just kept walking.
I never told her anything else, never spoken other words
like no, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
My TikTok, but I'm not the TikTok guy. Yes, fine line.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Dylanscott Country dot Com and April through you know, mid May,
doing a bunch of affairs and festivals and yeah, man,
congrats on another song that's about to be a number one.
I looked at some research. Yeah, I'm sure you've seen
it's it's there. You guys probably potting it out at
this point, right, it's pretty planned. We're just in line here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
When this comes out, I Hate Whiskey will be out. Yes,
it comes out then the March. Yeah yeah, So what's
what are you doing with that? You're just is it existing? Yeah?
I mean I Hate Whiskey?

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Was that it's one of those songs I've had for
a while and it's it's such a great song, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I wanted to be the single, but then again, what
will Never Have?

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
I didn't I didn't write I Hate Whiskey. I did
write what Will Never Happen. I was like, I don't
know about what I'll Never Have because it's been out
for a year. But I just can't really deny the
numbers on it. But that's a fine line, man. You
take somebody's song that you didn't write and it's not
a radio single, it's just a DSP, just a streaming release,
and you know, there's not a lot of money being

(01:08:45):
made there, but it could also really help me as
an artist. But it doesn't make the writers any money.
It's like, that's a super I don't know, man, that's
a that's a topic on my mind every day as
far as when I'm looking at music, you know, because
I'm a boy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I just, man, it's such a great song.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
It deserves to be a single, you know, it deserves
to make these writers money. And like, you know, if
it goes and does one hundred and fifty million streams,
two hundred million streams, whatever, it does not add up
to what it is a single, and you just gotta
feel bad about it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
But well, but y'all hit one, this one hits in
three and a half years, when your next one comes out,
well that's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
That's another thing. You're still gonna be a single. You
never know, all right at Dylan Scott Country. Dylan, good
to talk to you about it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
You too, Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production