Alli Walker has spent 15 years in the music industry, but it wasn’t until 2024 that everything clicked, like opening, singing and BAGPIPING with Shania Twain, being nominated for Female Vocalist of the year at the CCMA Awards, and signing a record deal with Sony. Alli’s music has gone viral, especially with her infectious tune “Creek.” Her newest song, “First Time Living,” duets with Gretchen Wilson, just released and had Gretchen in tears the first time she heard it. Now, she’s set to take her music to London and Glasgow for C2C in March, proving that this is just the beginning.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Carl Lone. She's a queen talking a song. She's getting
really not afraid to feel.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Its episode soul.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Just let it flow. No one can do we quiet
Cary Lone is sounding carolund.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well. I am just thrilled to be here with Ali Walker.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What's happening?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I mean we got our hacking done right away.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, coughed up for Loogi her too.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's so disgusting.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
But I have this hacking issue that I feel like
every single time before I do a podcast, I got
hacked up, and it's like, okay, it's like a thing.
And I've never met someone to join in with me before.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Here we are that's friends right off the job, because
I feel like it just really took us to the
next level right away. What do you think, Well, I
think being singers too. You know when your voice is
like in the prime and when you know you've got
stuff stuck in there? Yes, and the worst is on stage.
Sometimes I'll take a puffer before I go on stage.
Was actually I've learned is the worst thing?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
What's a puffer?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Like a beuterol? Like when you have asthma. Oh okay,
and you like spray. It's like a steroid in your throat, okay,
to help you open your airwaist okay, and it actually
gets all your mucus going. So I'm hacking on stage
while trying it doesn't work. Yeah, so I can't take that.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
What do you do when a hack attack comes on stage?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
My husband, who's my playback, he can talk in my ears,
He's like, you need to take another shot of your puffer.
Come to the side of stage after the second song.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
But now I know the puffer is the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, the puffer's a problem. So I just went to
the doctor. So I was This is not I'm not
throwing names out there, but I was hanging out with
Shania Twain and I was just like, as a friend, no,
I opened.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
For her and then well I saw that and she
like learned your song on stage and y'all did like
three part harmony.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Crazy, like like best one of my life so far
for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Which we'll circle back to the moment, but then let's
talk about the hanging out.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
We were hanging out.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
How do you hang out with Shani Twain?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Well, she was on a three run date at this
festival in Newfoundland, which is like my family lives there,
so it was Canada.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, okay, so you're from Canada.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yes, from Canada Okay. And I got to meet her
on stage because I play with her. And then how'd
you get that opening spot just because you're a badass? Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You were nominated for like Canadian Artists of the Year.
I mean you got stuff going on. All the Canadians,
you were the one female.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
This was my first nomination ever and I was actually
really surprised that I got it.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So you're nominated for Female Hours a Year.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, which, like, I awesome. I thought maybe I would
get like New Artists or something, but that's straight to
the top. But hang out with Shanaya. I was like,
this is my moment to ask her random shit and
you did. Yeah, what'd you do?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I asked her because she's a fellow Canadian. I asked
her about like her business manager. Is it a Canadian
or is it an American? Because they need to know
all the tax laws for both countries.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
She's like, you need a Canadian? Okay, So I did
actually switch business managers okay to a Canadian. Yeah, I
got it. I literally listened to every single thing she
told me about.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Can you share all the team she.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Told me to go on singular for asthma, So I did, okay,
which is a medication form.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I think so should I said, so, so I must have.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And then I got my puffer and then I got
I'm on zero tech allergy pills and uh acid reflux nexium.
So I'm just taking all these things. And then she
told me like this whole thing about like not eating
before your show, and she like lays in the dark
in her hotel all day and people just bring her
like purified food. And I'm like, well, I don't have people. Yeah,
(03:47):
and you have her husband. I have my husband, but
he has like ten jobs come out. He's not going
to pure a like pure pure raid. Sorry yeah, period
pure raid food.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
So she only wants it like much of like apple
sauce style.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes, she does not chew food day of her show. Meanwhile,
I'm like, I eat McDonald's for every meal while I'm
on the road.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Why does she not choose food?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Because I guess she doesn't want to have. She doesn't
want to have she knows her body, I guess. So
I wrote it down, but I'm not at that point yet.
Like she brings her own ninja.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
With her, does she like do anything when she's laying
in the dark, like watch TV.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
No, she dark, like meditation music all day, all day.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
How do you do that all day?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I know, And I explained to her. I'm like, I'm
at the point of my career where I'm flying in
day of potentially, or I'm driving all morning and all night.
I haven't slept for a week, haven't showered, and need
to eat McDonald's, So I'm not at that point yet.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But like, how does one lay all day without going bananas?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Man, that's amazing. She's she's down too.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Funny art shows where she's she rips around stage like
she's running.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
She this is like the rebirth of Shanaya because I
feel like she kind of went silent for a little
while and then reimmerse yes and like, man did she
re emerge, like with incredible costumes, and I feel like
she like cuts some herself backstage before. I've seen like
documentaries or something where she's like the costion will be
I could be wrong, but like she like get.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Some scissors and like change it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And like, yeah, I've definitely watched all her documentaries and
read her book and because she's Canadian. I just know
everything about her, and she was like trying to she
was like explaining some stuff about her past life. I'm like,
I know, I don't have to tell me. I know
everything about you.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So y'all like hung out hung out?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah? Well shell like four am so like how many hours?
Well it was like after the show, so like midnight
to four hour is and she was just chatting with you. Yeah,
and she was so chill. She drank a whole bottle
of champagne and I was just.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Is she living her best life these days?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I feel like she's really in her like her best stri.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
She's so cool and she like swore and she was
like super Canadian and like you know, Canadian hillbilly vibes,
which is what I am.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So did you all like get numbers?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
No, okay, but she was like I'll send you this stuff.
I'm like, how are you going to Let's be honest, gosh.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
That's so cool because a lot of times, like megastars
like that don't hang out with people that like are
opening for them.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And I've never yes, I usually don't even get to
meet the person there.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, sometimes you don't even to meet them.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And the fact cause actually, so I made that happen.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Because, oh, go girl.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I heard that she doesn't meet opener sometimes and her
mean greets are not very big, Okay, So I was like,
how can I meet Shanaia'm I'm literally opening for the
Queen and I need to meet her. So I said, note,
but I play the bagpipes.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh I know, and I've got to I have so
many questions about the bagpipes.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
So I was like, other than that, like, she's not
going to care who I am, So what if I
played bagpipes to one of her songs?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So you learned it?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So that morning in the hotel, I learned any man
of mine on bagpipes? I have like my electric bagpipes.
So I sent her manager a video of me playing
it and she was like, yeah, she loves it, so
should I approved. And then when I was about to
go on stage with her, I was like, you know,
do you guys play in this same key like I
need to make They're like, no, you're not really gonna play,
like she's just gonna talk to you and you'll play
(07:04):
it for like two seconds. You're not going to play
with the band. I had in ears, but I didn't
hear the count in of them actually joining me. So
I did the beginning of any Man of Mine, and
then the whole band came in in a different key
because I did an album key, and so she talked
to me in my ear and she's like, that's.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
The wrong gate.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Go figure out what key we're in. She and I did, yeah,
and I was like, I specifically asked if you guys
played it in this key, and they're like, no, don't
worry about it. Anyways, I ran backstage and this is
in the middle of the performance. Yeah, So I played
like the intro because it goes da da da da
da du du du da du dun dum, and then
it goes in and then everyone came in the key obviously,
(07:44):
and then so I went to the back and so
I had to like tell the playback guy, I'm like,
or the monitor guy, I'm like, make sure it's not
out front because I need to play this thing back
here and figure out what key.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So you're figuring it out while it's already going on,
and then the key it modulates in the bridge.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So I anyways, did you figure to go?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I was like, was it weird when you ran on stage?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
No? No, no, we just like proud might have thought
it was weird, yeah, but I was like, this is
this is my mom when I got to figure this out,
and so I ran back out there once I figured
it out, and it was just at the very end
when they were doing that lick again, and then I
was like, Okay, that was cool, and then she was like,
let's do a duet. I'm like, just like on the spot, well,
let's just write a duet. Like I'm already nervous as heck.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Up here on stage in front of like how many
people are there.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
It's a festival, so tens of thousands, forty.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And she wants to just do a duet with you, yeage.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Thankfully. In my head, I was like, well, my only
bagpipe song is this one song called the Whiskey's Gone,
and it's really easy. It's repetitive when all the whiskey's gone,
Whiskey's gone, Whiskey's gone. And so she got it right
away and was doing harmony to me on the first
take before she had ever heard it.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
If y'allre working on stage, and then she pulls her
backup singer in also and like you Shanaia and another
backup singer are singing all okay, are singing all are
singing all this together on the spot.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, And then she wanted to do it four times,
so we did the whole chorus four times.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Did the audience just love that? I mean, how fun?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And it's an East Coast place and they're not that
bagpipes are normal really anywhere, but it's you know, kind
of normal there, so they probably thought it was cool.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
But like, props Shanaia for being that adventurous on stage,
you know, because like, what if it would have bombed?
She just knew it wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I guess I'm glad I pulled that out because there's
no way I could have written a song under that pressure.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So she wanted to if you didn't have one, would
y'all just try to write one?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Oh my gosh, she said, let's do a duet? Like
how do we just come up with a duet? That's amazing?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I know.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Anyways, one of the pieces of advice is that she
gave me after that too, is like, because I just
moved to Nashville a year ago, She's like, make sure
you don't fall into you know, sounding like everybody else.
There's a reason why you play the bagpipes. There's a
reason why you're from the East coast, Like keep those roots,
but obviously keep it commercial too. But so like that
was a really big piece of advice that she gave
me to knowing that I played the bagpipes. So now
(10:06):
I'm like the bagpipe queen.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Why do you play the bagpipes? Which is so cool?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Well, where I'm from, it's pretty normal. Prince Edward Island
people played the bagpipes there. Mm hmm. A lot of
people I know play bagpipes. But there's a whole facility
called the College of Piping, and it's not really a college,
it's like an extra curricular place. Okay, And my mom
was the accountant there, and so I started like step
dancing and highland dancing and drumming.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Do you work that into your performances please say yes.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I don't. But I did step dance in the music
video for that bagpipe song. Yeah, I mean that's a
little that's a little gym you.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Have in your back pocket.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
It's different.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But I was gonna be a full bagpiper for like
my whole life. Like I got a scholarship to the
University of Arkansas for bagpiping, but I didn't because I
was like, I don't think I can do this like
as a career, and then I didn't touch them for
like ten years. And I was in a session here
writing session and it came up that I played bagpipes
(11:04):
and the co writer was like, we need to write
a bagpipe song. Yeah, and I'm like, how do you
write a bagpipe song that like people are gonna totally
make pun up and laugh at. But we did and
it's like my top streaming song and people love it. It
went viral like when every time I posted about it.
So now I've on that was two years ago. I
haven't had a bagpipe song since. But every time I
(11:25):
play live, people are like, we want more bagpipes, more bagpipes.
So my next single and I'm recording it tonight right
after this is called write it Out, and that'll have
bagpipe write it out, Write it out, okay, and uh,
I'm doing a bunch of ninety minute sets this year,
so we had to like obviously fill it with some stuff,
and so we're doing like a seventeen minute bagpipe medley.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Heck, yes you are.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Add the dancing and the dancing oh, I don't about
the dance, allie.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Seriously, you should add the dancing.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You should show all your skills on the stage, Like
who's that guy Brinson Boone Benson Boone? Yeah, okay, he
just did flips on stage because he can't like the
Grammy's Like, he just like ran off the piano and
did a flip and then you just did another flip
while he was just like walking on stage because he can. Like,
here's the thing. If you can do these things, you
should just do them because it is so cool to
(12:13):
see people who have secret skills. Like you know, you're
already you're beautiful. Now you're busting out the bagpipes, and
then you're gonna bust out your dancing.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I mean on it's beautiful dancing. It's step down, it's
fair like regiment.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You should do like a little bit in the med League.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Just and then bring people up on stage and that'll
feel that will help fill the nine.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Just do like a tiny, tiny moment of the dance.
Just keep it in.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Shani did that in her Don't be stupid. Remember when
she does the dancing and the water's coming In the
music video, they all do the step dance. Maybe because
she's from Canada, right right, saying Shanaia did it? Shania
should approved.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Okay, I will look into that.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I want you to really look into this. Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I don't want you to just forget about this. Okay,
I will Okay, great. You know I have a bad
pipe story.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Oh please.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It was a really bad one.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
So I was on the Amazing Race like ten years ago,
and we were in Ireland, Scotland, Ireland.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I wonder which one does the bagpipes. I was such
a blurk.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Both of them do, but it would probably be like
Glasgow or Edinburgh and Scotland.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yes, okay, Scotland, Scotland.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It was in Scotland, and the challenge was to play
the bagpipes, and you had to walk around this whole
room playing the bagpipes for two.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Minutes and you couldn't google that.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
You couldn't let the music stop. But I had to
breathe into something. I've noticed you don't. You weren't doing.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Your mouth with it. So I normally like that. The
Highland bagpipes are the normal bagpipes. But I have an
electric bagpipe, so I can like plug it in and
be able to walk around the stage and I can
play it in any key. So I play like Thunderstruck
and Crazy Train, and I play anemn of mine and
I do double one down at Georgia, and they're all
different keys, and the bagpipes only in one key, and
it's usually not really in tune with like a band. Okay,
(13:54):
so this one can change any key, and it doesn't
have like the big drones. And yeah, you don't have
to blow into it, because like how do you blow
and sing at the same time.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Right, Okay, well that's great. Well this one you had
to blow into. Some fun fact about bagpipes. There's a
there's a real thing about a jaw muscle, Like my muscle.
My jaw went out because like I was doing it
going around and I got like almost the end, but
then I like lost it almost the end.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I was like, no problem, it'll be no big deal
because the first time it was so easy. But I
just like lost my breath at the end, tried to
do it again, my jaw went out.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I need to see this.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I had a full blown meltdown because I was like,
my jaw's not working.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I cannot get my mouth to blow this freaking bagpipe anymore.
I finally made it to the end, Like I don't
know how because the more you do it, the more
so your jaw is too and your lips will just
not work your lips up working your whole mouth falls apart.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, when I was like at my prime of you know,
I've been to Scotland at the World Championships, Like.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You're the World Championship, so you're freaking good.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Gonna like be a bagpiper, but that was a career goal.
It's definitely gonna. And I gave really good money because
I was always like piping you know, leader political leaders
into buildings or I was doing funerals or weddings, and
you made good money. Heck yeah, yeah, But I get
that because I haven't blown into a bagpipe in years,
(15:16):
and so I would be like, you, like, you have
to get your lungs going, and maybe I should do that.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
So something with a jaw muscle, though my jaws locked up.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I don't know why, because when you blow over a
long time, your jaw locks up.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Apparently. I deal with these kind of jokes all the time,
and I try not to be appropriate when I.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Talk about it's really hard not to.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You got lock lock jobs.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I got lockshaw hard and I finally made it through.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But I was like, dang, I wonder if you've ever
had bagpipe lockjaw.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
No, it's usually the lips they go numb. Okay, yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
This is great ally, I mean, this is some good
stuff you got going on here.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Thank you? Yeah, I mean you gotta do something to
stand out these days. There's so many people doing it.
Anyone can write a song and anybody can put it
on social media. I know. So if I gotta be
the dang bagpipe girl, I'll be the.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Big I mean, if you're a world champion, why would
you not be? Ye, Like, don't just like tuk a
talent like that in your pocket and forget about it.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Well I just didn't want to be like the bagpipe girl,
but why not? But now I'm like, well people want
the bagpipes, so it's great.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, the bagpipe. And you also wear chaps.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I do wear chaps sometimes.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, I mean you look great in chaps.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh, thank you?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
How did you start doing chaps?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I was at what's that bar where they wore chaps?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Don't know. I do not leave the house.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I was doing a gig in Kentucky with whiskey jam okay.
And it was at this place where these girls were
chaps and I was like, oh, okay, pbr pbr okay, pber.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I was gonna say cowboy ugly, but that's not existing,
coot coyote ugly.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, but they they looked really good on them. They
did like the basically thong underneath, and I was like, hmm,
we'll probably wear shorts, but I just love them. And
then I bought them in like five different types of
but there there's like cowboy chaps where like they wear
them on horses, but these are like motorcycle chaps.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Okay, So is it kind of like your thing?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I don't know. I'm trying to figure out because that
was for one song I didn't and all the all
the girls in.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
The music for Nashville, Yeah, which is so good, and
you were at that with Walker Hayes.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yes, I can't get that one out of my head.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh gosh, nash I don't know, but it's so hooky
that one ruffled some feathers. Why because there's goody goodies.
Well and I say the F word you, Oh, I
don't Okay, when does the effort say fuck you? Whoops?
Dolly part in my French.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Oh you say that in the beginning though, oh Dolly
parton my French.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yes, And I also say ass and ship maybe.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So you're just feeling it. You just wanted to drop
it drop. You're needing a letter right now, feeling well.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I seed to change those to be cleaner. But the
label head of the label was based out of New
York City, and that's normal for like their type of music,
our R and B Records.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, you're a Sony Records.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's like records. It's called records with Sony and they're
based out of Nashville or New York. And he was like,
this is the one, this is the one that's going
to do. So they put like, you know, their marketing
behind it and hired influencers to do the dances and
all that, and it was just it. I loved it,
but it was like a little Craig Kray.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Does that make you feel a little nervous when like
you're pushing yourself in that way, like you're kind of
like being a little you know.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, we went a little softer after that, because you
need a real kid. I did reel it back in and.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I like my last two songs and Chaps dropping the
F bomb. If you had only thrown the back thing,
yeah yeah, yeah, the bagpipe would have saved it.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Maybe. Yeah. But that was the first time that I've gotten.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Like hate, Oh people, what does that feel like?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
It actually didn't bother me as much as I thought
it would, because, like, I don't care about anyone's opinion.
But how'd you get there?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Because that's like good self worth? Way I have confidence.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I think I was born with it. I don't know.
I still care about like making a good impression on people,
but I, for some reason don't care what people think. Okay, really,
just as a kid, like I had corner rows and
dreadlocks as a kid and are like you know, inappropriate now,
but had all of like I which had a buzz
cut I had, you know, I was just not a
(19:37):
cute kid, and I didn't care.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
But you're such a gorgeous woman.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Well thanks, you know, I was chubby and not cute,
but like it just made me confident, I guess, okay, okay,
until I came into myself. I discovered a tanning bed
and a hair salon.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
What age was that.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I don't know, junior high maybe and like boys, and.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
But you married young and fell in love young, right.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, I had met my husband when I was twenty Okay,
and is he older years ago? Yeah, he's twelve years
older than me. So when I said he was thirty two, yeah,
he had just retired from being a touring drummer. And
I had just moved from Prince Edward Island to Toronto,
which is Canada's biggest city, to have like more opportunities
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in music. And he had always been like a hired
guy and wanted to be a part of some kind
of thing from the ground up. He didn't realize ground
up was going to be like fifteen years lucky him.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, yeah, he's been like the biggest asset of my
career basically. How soo like making me not quit? Oh really? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
So he like helps you stay on stay on focus.
Now it's not discouraged.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Not at all. Yeah. You know, because I've been with
him and doing this for fifteen years that there has
been so many points where I'm like I am not
good enough for shouldn't be doing this or why hasn't
this happened for me yet? And he always it's you know,
once a month takes me into that hole of you know,
you're great, you know, all positive things, and he has
(21:12):
so many things like structured thing. He's like, he makes
me do vision boards, he makes me, you know, be
very business minded and project management minded. So he's just
been an asset for everything. And now he's my tour manager.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
That's great, and well is that great or is that hard?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
It's been different, okay, because.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's a lot of together time and then he's in
charge of you on the road ish kind of Yeah,
so what is that?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
It's been the last year and it's been me and
him forever only Like I've never had a manager. It
never had a label, never had any other team member.
And this last year I met my manager and he
was based in Nashville, and so we moved to Nashville.
I have a brand new manager. I have a whole
management team, have a label, have a publishing company, have
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new booking agents.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Did the manager get you the label, the publishing and
all that? Yeah, so the manager has been great. Oh
he's okay, can you say who the manager is?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
His name's Brad Tercott.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
He was always a label guy. He worked a big machine.
He was Taylor Swift's International Girl Guy and Universal whatever.
But he used to own a label back in the
day and used to manage and he never thought he
would get back into it. But I went to the
Canadian Country Music Awards.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Where you're nominated for best.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I wasn't that time. I was an absolute nobody and
I had been going to these awards and there's like
seminars and stuff where you go and meet people whatever.
And I was like, I didn't. I don't want to
go this year because you got to pay for your
flight across Canada, you got a hotel, you got to
pay for these seminars. It's so expensive for me to
just like chat with people. But I was like, I
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gotta go. I gotta keep your face in front of people.
And I met him. I signed up for like an
international mentor thirty minutes in a boardroom, and I gave
him my pitch, basically like expecting nothing out of it.
He had no idea who I was, and he was like,
why hasn't anybody like there must be something wrong with you?
Like why, I'm like, I don't know, broll. I am
(23:03):
like banging my head against the wall. Here in Canada.
Nobody gives a shit about me, I'm I've got more followers,
and these people, I got more streams, and these people
I've got all of I'm checking all the boxes, but
no one cares and no one is noticing. And so he,
you know, did his due diligence that afternoon and talked
to everybody in the industry that was there, and they're like, no,
we love Ally, wech We didn't know that she didn't
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have a team because I have all these things that
I've done myself. So he like scooped me up. He
found me later that night and was like, I want
to be your manager. Wow, And I just needed that
one person to open the door for me. Yes, So
we kind of went to every label in town, and
Records felt like the right fit, and Sony Pub was
like automatically the right fit. Everyone at Sony Pub just
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felt like a family. And that has been like the
biggest thing I'm proud of is is getting a publishing
deal because I love writing and them hooking me up
with like the most incredible writers is incredible. So this
year has been like the biggest transition of my entire life,
moving here, my husband having a new role. He quit
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his corporate job that he's been supporting us for the
last fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
When is he in corporate?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So he started as a technician for a telecommunications company
after he you know, stopped being a drummer, so he
would be like the person that comes and puts internet
into your house, okay, And then he just like kept
moving up. And I was a project manager with another
telecommunications company.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Okay, so we quit it hung it up to be
the tour manager, yeah, and just.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
To come down here and support me because he couldn't
work down here really, So I got my visa and
then he came and he's on my visa as my
tour manager, and he does like my playback, he does
all my merch. He's he's now appointed my assistant as well,
because I just I'm like, I need you to do
other things as well.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
He better remember it too, right, where's my coffee?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Let me wake up? It's more like release schedules, like
building it into Monday dot com and make sure that
we're like doing everything and stuff like.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Has he liked his new role, yes, but we have
butted heads because we're also you know, a whole new
live rig where we're doing new tracks and new songs
and new transitions, and he's learning all this stuff with
abletons and the tracks and all like it's it's a
whole new world and us getting a whole new bunch
of gear. So he's been overwhelmed. So I have to
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remind him, like do you like this? Because if if
you don't, I don't want you to be doing this.
But he loves it. He just it's a lot when
a show day, he's got to do the merch and
the playback and the sound check and the advancing and
making sure I'm eating and I'm you know, a fed
and I've got my glass of one before the show.
So he does everything.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
It's nice to have somebody because I can't imagine how
much I would pay somebody to do that. Oh my god, right, yeah, truly, truly.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Well that works out.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, it's good. So we're finally getting our groove. Like
last year it was like everything all at once, signed
with the label to do sign with that shows, and
this year it's like we're doing a lot of shows
in America for the first time, and we're going over
to UK and Australia and all that. So how it's
like enjoying. I said, let's enjoy this year because last
year we were like nuts.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
So did the new manager get all this going for you?
Is that wy?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
And is that what kind of got you notice back
in Canada to get nominated for Canadian Female Urs the Year.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
So Brad Brad Brad great man. I mean, he's been awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
He's amazing, and he's like a little trio with my
husband and I like, we're all best friends. That's awesome.
We love when he comes out on the road and
we just hang out together. That's awesome. Yeah, we love it.
And uh yeah, I mean I thought maybe I So
it's like the CCMA is probably like all the other awards,
but you like need people to submit you and then
it's just industry people that vote for it. And so
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I told, like my fellow comrades, I'm like, don't vote
for me this year because my Canadian label said, you know,
I'm not going to bring a priority this year and
it's not my year. So I was like, don't vote
for me for anything, just submit me. Bagpipes so like
a Utility Player of the Year. And so when he
called me, he was like congrats. I was like, oh,
did I get a nomination for bagpipes and he was like,
(27:10):
now Female Artists of the Year, and I was like, whoa,
that's nuts. Yeah against like Mackenzie Porter and Danial Towns
and madel Merlou So they had no idea who I
was those girls, and I had been fans of them
for you know, a decade, fifteen years, and then this
random little meat pops up and they're like.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
It was your time. All the stars aligned.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, obviously didn't win, but so you.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
But so because you said this, you were like, You've
been in the music business for fifteen years, but like,
not one year was worth documenting until twenty twenty four
he put on one of your posts. But so it's
like everything happened on once. You really had had not
much going before.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Then. Did Shani happen last year? Did all that happened
last year? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I didn't have a booking agent, so I wasn't doing
any good shows, like any shows that I was booking.
I booked Cabinish Beach Music Festival with just a huge
festival in Canada, and I booked Boots and Hearts by myself.
But you can't aalodic stuff by yourself, you know, Obviously,
people always want that third party validation that you're worth booking.
So I had just got that. I got basically that
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Canadian booking agent the day that Brad signed on because
I'd already been working them. They just needed to know
that it wasn't just me on my team. So yeah,
he got. I had a lot of Canadian gigs last year,
and I checked off a lot of like big festivals
that I've always wanted to play.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
So how is it when your dreams become reality? How
does it feel? Is it as good as you hope
it'd be?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Is it better?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's exactly what I thought because I've lived in my
mind in this moment.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Are you a big visualizer?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, well man, you do the manifest boards and yeah,
vision boards.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Vision boards, and I have like an Excel vision board too,
so that I can see, like right on paper, like
all the things.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So like, I don't know what's on the vision board
for this year enjoying.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh my god, there's so many things.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Okay, what are some of them?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Well, there's things like last year, I always wanted to
be in Music Row magazine. Okay, you know, so then
I got to tick that off, and like I've always
wanted to be on the Bobby Bones podcast. I want
to at least walk a red carpet for like, you know,
a CMA or ACM or something.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I'm sure that will happen this year.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, maybe. But there's there's so many like little things
like that, like be on war Gunther's show on Apple.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Oh yeah, like Maddy used to work for Word and
Whiskey Jam.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I've done Whiskey Jam a bunch, so you know it all.
And I've really big main one of serious text the Highway.
I've never been on the Highway, so oh that's coming.
I'd like to be on the horizon and then a
highway find Okay, yeah, heck yeah, yeah. I mean there's
just so many things. I have never been on an
actual tour, so I have all these one off like
(29:48):
flyout dates, but I've never like open for somebody on
a long length of time.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Because so that's on the vision board. That's anyone in
particular that you would love to open for.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
O like I guess Lanny Morgan Bailey, I like, I
like Broke Country, I love it, like Jason Alden or
Luke Bryan, Nice Ella Langley, Oh she's love Ella. There's
not a lot of people like kind of in my
vein that are females, So I don't know who I
would really picture kind of for female, but a heck
(30:22):
yeah if she did like a country album.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
And then okay, so I want to know, how did
you get hooked up with Gretchen Wilson first time living
this song you have out?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
And is this a true story for you?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Because I heard this song and it made me cry,
like it was like really emotional because it's basically kind
of tell us the premise of this song because I
feel like this is a very touching song. And Gretchen
was like, I have never had a song written that
I related to so much that felt like it told
her story, which is crazy because she's such a great songwriter.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I know.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
And the biggest pat on my I've ever gotten was
when I was at Sony Pub in Nashville and I
was showing them the finish song and Rusty the president there,
he was like, you need to put yourself on the
back because it's very hard to do a concept for
a song that's never been done or not been done
a hundred times. So that was like the first time
I'm like, maybe I am a real songwriter, even though
(31:19):
I've been writing forever. You know, we all haven't bossed
her syndrome. But I just had the title. I'm a
big titles gal, so I have a million titles in
my phone, but I had first time living. And normally
when you write songs, as you know, like there's a
track person in the room, and I usually don't. I
want there to be a track person in the room.
But this time it was like at Sony Publishing in
(31:39):
one of their little closets basically, and it was just
us three girls and I.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Love Whitney Duncan, but yeah, I never did it.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Was she was due like basically that day. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
And Kat Higgins, she's a fellow Canadian. I hadn't writen
with her in like ten years, and we were all
just talking about like parents and how we all grew
up differently and how we all view our parents in
different ways, or how as a child we were to
our parents, and we just started writing the song and
(32:11):
it was all organic, like just on guitars. So I
went home and I had just like a voice note
and I am a perfectionist in a way that I
would never put something online that like I had just written,
because I feel like if I sang it a million times,
it'd be better. But I something about that song. I
just I knew it was different. So I put it
(32:32):
up on social media right away, and people loved it
and my manager loved it. So the second verse was
actually completely different. So the song is based on forgiving
your parents for making mistakes along the way and just
like giving them grace because it was their first time living. Literally,
like they're not going to be perfect and they might
mess you up a little bit, but if you were
(32:53):
in their shoes, imagine it could have been way harder
than you even imagine what they were going through at
that time. So the second verse was just about like
a boyfriend and giving her boyfriend grace for you know,
being a bad boyfriend because you were young, and that
was fine. But when I sent the scratch vocal or
whatever to my manager, Brad, he thought it was about
(33:15):
giving a child grace for the child like messing up
and not making the right decisions. And I was like, oh, wow,
that's way better. So I rewrote the second verse to
be from the mother, and then the first one was
about from the kid, and then I got back on
a zoom with Kat and Whitney and we figured it
all out and then I was like, well, this obviously
(33:36):
needs to be a duo, Like I don't want to
be the mom and the child. So we're like, who
could be my mom age wives like Riba Shunaya, Gretchen,
And so we just sent it to Gretchen and she
like replied the same day she said she was bawling
and she sent it to her mom and she resonates
with it because her mom had her really young h
(33:57):
and I'm sure she had to give her mom a
lot of grace, not knowing how to be like she
was sixteen. Of course, she don't know how to be
a mom at sixteen. And then she also has a
daughter and her the first line of the chorus is
don't we all need a little grace? And her daughter's
name is Grace. So then she probably was balling because
of that too.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Oh my gosh, So did you is this a true
story for you? Did you have some forgiving to do
to your parents?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I mean, my parents were incredible.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Okay, because you also have some really funny play on titles.
I was listening to your demo sessions and you have
one called pull.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Out and Pray One night's Dan Houston Other Problem.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
But pull out in the prey sounded like like I was.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Like, isn't it yes?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
And that one was a heart wrencher. But because it's
not about sex, it's about your mom. Well, but it's
about your mom.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
No, it would be like me as a narrator pull
out and pray if you guys don't know what that is.
I actually wanted it to have double meaning of like,
you got pregnant because you did the pull home and
pray method. Oh okay, and you got and it was
with the wrong guy and he ended up being in a.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
And so now you have to pull out of the house,
out of the.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Driveway with your child and never look back.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Oh Allie, I mean that is heavy. Heavy.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
It's so good though, I was like, dang, I mean
your songs are getting me all emotional.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I'll be honest. I definitely pull because I don't have kids,
and you know, I've been in the same relationship forever,
gonna have to pull from other places. First time leaving,
I definitely pulled from experiences with my parents. They were amazing,
but no parent is literally perfect and they're like I'm
never gonna tell them what they did. That like messed
me up in certain ways, but I've had to like
(35:34):
learn how to overcome it. But that song, oh sorry,
First Time Living is heavily inspired by my sister. So,
my sister was a hard team for my parents to
take care of, and she got pregnant really young, and
(35:56):
my parents always said, when you have kids, you're gonna
know what you put us through. And then of course
she has four kids now, so she knows exactly what
she put my parents through. So it was inspired by
that too.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
What does your sister think about the song?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
She loved it. That was the first song. I mean
when we're in a group text she replies like one
every million texts because she's got four four kids, and
then her husband now also has four kids, so there's
like eight kids.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Oh my god, how old are the kids?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
She got? Like twins?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
She has twins?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, twins, And then I think like ten, twelve, eighteen,
gosh crazy. But uh, that was one that she actually
replied to in the group chat and said, wow, I
love this, so I knew it was good.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
And then you played it for your mom like on
the couch.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, I know how was that, Well, she that was hard.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I mean, that's a heavy that's a moment right there.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I know that was really hard, like and I'm such
a crier that, like I just had to separate myself
and think about like Grandma's panties at that point so
that I don't cry. You know. I'm going to play
for the first time at a show this weekend, so
we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Okay, where are you playing Portland organ I love Orgon.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, I'm pumped. I've never been, so you're just like
living your best life right now. Yeah, And I'm like
this year, I really want to enjoy it all. So
like I just played in Park City and I'm like, okay,
well I'm going to book my flight later so that
i can actually go snowboarding. Yeah, or like We're going
to Berlin and Glasgow and London and I'm like, okay,
we I'm going to book an extra day between this
(37:30):
so that I can go see a castle or go.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Like actually like have a little enjoy the scenery.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, because when you're on tour, like you don't get
to do that. You're just eating from truck stops and tired. Yeah,
So if I can kind of enjoy it because not
that I'm like a pessimist or whatever it's called, but
I'm like, you never know what's gonna last forever, so
I want to enjoy like these moments.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Right, Okay, So if if it all ended tomorrow, would
you go to bagpiping? No?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I would we've gone from that moved on.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
You would not be a professional bagpiper.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
No, No, I think that's past for me.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Do you think you'll stay in America?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Like?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Do you like living here? What's the difference between here
in Canada? Oh?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
My god, It's everything I've ever wanted it to be,
really so like growing up I watched the Hills, Laguna
Beach and Friday Night Lights, and as a Canadian and
a really small growing up in a really small place,
I just always wanted to be American. You did always.
It is like the American dream as a Canadian. So
that's why I moved to Toronto because it was the
(38:30):
closest thing I could legally go to that would be
like like New York City. And when I moved here
and just like having like having the food or like
just there's so many it's so America, Like it's exactly
what I thought America would be like, I mean, I've
been here, I've been coming here for thirteen years. But
to actually live here, like it just feels like it's
where I'm supposed to be and like what I've been
(38:52):
waiting for forever.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Really, yeah, it was it easy to like integrate and
make friends?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Was that hard? How do you do that?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I knew a lot of people here already, and I
don't I feel bad, but I don't have time for friends. Yeah,
you know, and I.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Feel you're married, your husband and he's got y'all are
like a little partnership.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, I've got my dogs lonely.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah, you got doodles, right, two doodles.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, it's so sweet. I mean that's the hardest part.
Like I can't work until I get to tour bus
status so that I can bring the doggies with us,
because like dropping them off at the sitters every weekend
is sad and costly. M hm, But yeah, I know.
(39:36):
I but the hardest thing was to get somewhere to live,
because when you move here, it takes like a year
to build credit. So I'm like not even in the
system at all. So I would apply for these houses
on Zillow to rent, and it would just show up
as like I don't exist, and it's like what comes
first a chicken out of the egg because you need
like your license, but you also need your Social Security number.
(39:58):
You can't get your license with a social You can't
get this without a bill, and you can't get a
bill without a somewhere to live. You can't you can't
get a cell phone without credit. So it's like it
was all of these things of I wish I could
write a whole like book about it so that people.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Like a little honestly and again how to maybe yeah, honestly.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
The first step is to get a working or yeah,
working visa, and that's hard to get unless you have
like someone signing for you that says they're gonna and
your manager it help to port you. Yeah, so he's
going to pay for the bus ticket if I get
to ported Okay, but you're for three years, so yeah, okay,
I don't think I'll go back to Canada. I have
(40:39):
property in Canada that we're like gonna build on later
in life. It's like five acres on the top of
a mountain in the middle of nowhere. Okay, that's like
our dream place later in life. But I would like
like a ranch here. We obviously land for my doggies
to run around. That's the goal for Nashville, and like
the end end goal for me is California. Okay, like
(41:03):
beach house in the OC, because I'm going back to Laguda.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Bees really shaped your life.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
It shaped my life.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I mean, you love and Cavalari. Have you met her yet?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
No?
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I have What are you going to do when you
meet her?
Speaker 1 (41:13):
I don't know. I haven't seen her.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
And you know Stephen is here too, really Stephen from
the Hills.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I'd love to meet Lauren. I loved Whitney.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Listen if you you can go. Wait, No Whaler, Whaler?
What's his last name? Whaler?
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I think his name is not Stephen, the one who No,
he was kind of like rebellious on the show.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Uh, he wasn't. He wasn't Stephen and he wasn't I.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Know, I know, I don't know, I don't. I have
a memory of literally a fish.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Ashley Whaler is a hairstylist though, who's amazing, and she's
married to him on the Hills.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So there's your inn and you have great blonde hair.
If you need to look it up.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Am I working myself into my dream life for when
I was fourteen?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I know?
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Literally?
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Okay, so the hills are why you want to go
to California.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, I've always wanted a house in the OC. But
I also watch like all trash TV.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
You love trash TV because you said your song Creek
was inspired by Love Island, Love Island.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, I watch it all real housewise anything Bravo gives
me or peacock and what.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Does it do for your soul? When you watch it?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Makes me realize I'm a little more normal.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
I hear people say that all the time, and hates it.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
He's like, it's so negative. All I hear is them
cackling at each other.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Is he very positive? It sounds like he or like
trying to be positive, Like.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, I guess well, he's making you do visually encouraging,
very encouraging.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
I wouldn't say he's a negative, No, not at all.
But he hates me watching negative TV. But it's a
way for me to just not think about life. Like
I'm the type of person that never has silence, and
I just have that in the background, like while I'm
doing my makeup or hair, always but the like the
Real Housewives of the OC or Beverly Hills. I'm like, yeah,
I want that.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Labe, not the actual life, just like the house.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Life, the house, the house, yeah yeah, the water. Yeah okay,
And like I grew up on an island and we
had beaches and it was on the ocean. So that's
the dream too. But where I'm from, it's nice, like
two months of the year. Where are you from, Prince
Edward Island.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Prince Edward. I have never been to Canada.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
It's like the it's the Cape Cod Maine of Canada.
So it's all like oysters, muscles, lobster and you love
all that. Yeah, I'll shoot. I brought you a little
gift actually in the oyster it's all pi stuff not.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
It was very high.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
I brought you well you'll see. It was Mabel's syrup
and this drink. I bet if I ever heard of
Anna green Gables the show. Yeah it's a book, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Someone it's a book that was made into a series. Yeah,
so Landon I think was in it. Maybe he was
a very foxy man back in the day.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
He passed away. God bleshers all.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
My mom, Well, she's big in Pei. People come to
Pei and like expect to see her, but she's a fictional.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Character and I was gonna say, does she live there?
That's where she lived in the book.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Within the book, and then the writer Lucy Mom Montgomery
was from Pi. Anyways, this whole everyone loves and everything's
Anne in Pi. So I brought you this raspberry cordial,
which is like she used to drink in the book.
Thank you. I brought cow chips, which another thing is
this ice cream shop called Cows and it was one
of my first jobs ever. And they have these potato
(44:19):
chips covered in milk chocolate and potatoes are like a
huge thing. A Pi too, oh a Pi ca.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
This sounds like a paradise. Are you sure you want
to leave?
Speaker 1 (44:29):
It is paradise for two months of the year, okay, yeah,
for sure, But the rest of.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
The time, no seasonal depression.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yeah oh my gosh. Yeah, but my parents are They're
building this house on the water, so I'll always have
somewhere to go. But for like not now, Okay, I
love that.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
So what is success to you?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Success is to have a big property that my dogs
can run around. No. I just honestly, that's a really
hard question because I have found lately now that I'm
like crossing off. I just move on to the next thing,
and I don't even take time to like soak in
(45:07):
the fact that I've wanted these things forever. But success
is just like being happy doing what I love. If
I could make an actual living where I don't have
to think about my bills doing what I love, that'd
be great. And then you know, mansion and Laguna Beach.
(45:27):
I'd like it for it to happen while my parents
are still able, you know, because I want them to
see that fifteen years of hard work.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
So your career is like all consuming, Yes, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
We've been an artist, and it's so hard to have
any other life beside your career, especially when you're grinding
it out, and especially since everything just clicked last year. Yeah,
but like everything clicked last year, everything like nothing to everything.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Yeah, And that was the hard part. I've always had
a million jobs and it was so depressing, like going
to work as a server, bartender, anything. I had a
million jobs, but like, is it ever gonna happen? Am
I going to be a server forever? It seems like
you get very frustrated. Yeah, and like super depressed and
had to have somebody to pull me out of it
(46:16):
because there were so many times that I was like unwell.
I actually wrote a whole album based on my mental
health in my twenties.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Talk to me about that.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
You can't find it anywhere because it's like I took
it off.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
But what what was the concepts of the songs?
Speaker 1 (46:29):
So it was called The Basement Sessions What I've Learned
so Far, and I did it in my basement with
my husband. My husband produced it, and I wrote all
the songs by myself, and all the concepts were just
being in your twenties, and in your twenties you're finding
yourself anyways, even if you have a job at a bank,
like you're still finding yourself, but finding yourself when you
also need to like be a brand and chasing something
(46:52):
that you have no idea if it's actually going to happen,
and it costing so much to do and working other jobs.
And then your twenties you also want to have fun.
And I was working in the service industry and I
would go out and drink every night, and you know,
not do good things. So I got I stopped drinking
for a while, and I wrote this album and went
(47:13):
down a self love route. Listen to every podcast that's
ever been made, read every book, self help book. Actually
never had been to therapy. But I was doing all
the things I could every day to make myself better,
and so I wrote songs that were like take your
power back. I wrote a song called fight till the End,
(47:35):
love Yourself, and I called it mindful music and conscious Country,
So it's kind of like a concept album of mindfulness.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Do you feel like that helped you?
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:45):
It was totally like a fer Me thing because now
I'm like, I'll have drinking songs, I'll have partying songs.
And that was kind of like a phase of my
twenties of like how am I going to get through?
You know, your twenties.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
It's so brutal.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah, I mean my twenties I was chaotic, like all
over the place, struggled with like self worth, body image,
same kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Am I really ever gonna be anything? Yeah, especially when
you're trying to do something that's like there's no blueprint for.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Actually what triggered it all was I had really bad
systic acme for like a decade, like all of my twenties,
and I was always trying to heal it naturally, and
on stage it was annoying because that looked like, you know,
the rocky mountains on my face when I had like
all the makeup on it, and I was so self
conscious of it, and I would post pictures and I
(48:37):
would face tune the crap out of it. And then
one day I just said screw it, and I posted
a picture of like my full face just being read
and like telling people, hey, I've been lying to you.
This is what I actually looked like. And that was
like the most freeing thing I've ever done. Really, yeah,
And that led me to just being more open about everything.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Did you get what was the feedback? When you were.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Obviously all nice, so supportive? And that opened up me
just taking my audience and like making them like family
and friends instead of like separate.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Instead of like here I am, I'll put together with
the wall between.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Us, yes, And I try to do that now, Like
I still am a perfectionist. And I was talking about
like the guitar thing or singing raw, like I still
stop myself all the time of trying not to be
a perfect perfectionist. And I one of my first posts
this year, it was like me playing the bagpipes looking
hideous in my bed, and I was like, I need
to do more stuff like this. I think that people
(49:31):
want to see like the perfect side of it, because
I'll see other artists look so glammed up all the time,
like Megamaroni looks perfect all the time, or you know
all these artists, and I'm like, well, maybe that's just
not my path. I need to show more of a
vulnerable side and the real side. And every time I do,
I get so many more comments of support.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
How did you go viral.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
When you just always been viral?
Speaker 3 (49:55):
Because like viral and then like didn't it keep going
like di crete go viral?
Speaker 1 (49:59):
I don't know what viral like.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I don't know like where you get, Like I didn't
go to the dash of viral, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
It's been just like steady. So first time I went viral,
like over millions of views, was a song called country
music because I made it.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
That's viral, that's viral. I was considered viral.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Well that's good. I mean it was like during TikTok,
during like COVID, so people were TikTok was easier. And
then I rewrote a Morganwall and song sand in My
Boots from The Female Perspective that went viral, and then
my bagpipe. Every time I posted this bagpipe video. I
posted the same video like ten times and it went
viral every time. It just like kept. I was like,
(50:38):
it's reaching new people every time I post it, and
Creek went viral because I was singing in the creek
this my song Creak, and people were just like making
jokes about calling me names of like famous people, but
like country version, you did it real about that? What
(50:58):
were there some of the NAMESIC told you, like Avril
Ravine and I don't I can't even think of them.
I have a terrible memory. But yeah, I did a
whole video where I was reading like I mean tweets basically,
but they weren't even that me, Like, they're so funny
and it creates engagement on the video and it did
really well and it actually translates farts. One of them
was farts oh uh Dolly Farton. Yeah, thanks, It was
(51:23):
fun like I love that kind of stuff. And then
I the second line of that song, a catch you
like a catfish. I played at the Nashville Predators hockey game,
like they have a little band there and they do
this thing with catfish, people throw catfish onto the ice,
and so we planned. My manager is a big marketing guy,
(51:44):
so we planned, hey, maybe we could do something with
a fish, like maybe I just kiss it or something.
But I was singing that song that was the last
song on my set, and it's not on TV, like
it's just for the viewers in the arena usually when
you play like at that band stage. But they cut
to realty at the end of that song Creek, and
we planned to put beer in the dead catfish and
(52:07):
then I chugged, yeah, and mouth out of his gutty mouth.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
So my manager was a part of it, and he
poured the beer into it and then I chugged it.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
So it like went into the organs and then came
back out when you drink it.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah, Well they gutted it though. It's really clean, okay,
And I didn't taste it at all. And it instantly
like after I finished that song, it was on like
ESPN all of the sports televisions, and I went on
Twitter right after my set and it like had gone viral.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
Is that fun to go viral?
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (52:38):
I guess I did do anything, Does it change your.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
Life something like that? No, because it's just like a
pr stugn kind of but I appreciate it more. Like
my song Readbiner Whiskey did really well where it like
went viral ish, Not really, but it was. It was
at a point where people actually pressed and listened to
the song, and it's not just like some funny thing
where like people actually liked the song so they went
and streamed it. And I think that's the type of
(53:03):
viral that you want to go.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
I actually I listened to music and become a real fan. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah, but there's always the pressures of going viral, Like
even with being with the label, they still expect the
number one marketing tool to be is virality.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
And you can't play for that.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Oh and it's so fickle. You can plan, but it
doesn't always work. Like we tried really hard with Nashville
to make that like a viral hit and you can't.
You maybe you can, but maybe we did it wrong.
But you can't create a viral moment in my experience,
I agree, like it has to be organic mm hmm,
because people can sniff out when it's not.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I love your journey, I mean ally you have, just
like I just love to see people who just like
stay on the path, keep going, because like, you never
know when you're gonna hit your year fifteen years of
nothing really and then all of a sudden, everything yeah
changed over night.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Literally. Yeah, and I where I met my manager. I
was not gonna go because I was, but the fact
that I went it was because as soon as you're
about to give up is when it happens.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
That is so true.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
It's always when it happens, and I'm grateful. I'm grateful
for it, you know, finally going like this instead of
like this.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
You have to have the moment or else. I mean,
it's just so hard to a stand, but you have.
I mean, you're right, you like, right when you want
to quit is when it happens, Especially when you've gone
this long and you know you've got something, you know
you're good. It's just like, how long can you hang
in there? Well?
Speaker 1 (54:28):
And I'm too far in to give it up now? Right?
That Haley Witter song ten years and twelve years into
a ten year in town, Yeah, that hit me. When
I heard that song, I was like, oh my god,
that's literally me. It's like what else am I going
to do.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Right, it's like too old, right, you commit it too much?
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yes, I mean every time I go home, my parents
are still like, well, Stamp still pay for you to
go to university if you want to get a real job.
I'm like, can you stop saying that?
Speaker 3 (54:52):
Like at this point, have you already got it in
your back pocket?
Speaker 1 (54:55):
It's yeah, I wonder if they'd still give me the scholarship.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Okay, So tell everyone what to be looking forward to you,
how to find you on tour, all your socials, all
the things.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
All the socials a L L I Ali Walker on
all the things. I've got pretty much. Songs popping out
every six weeks.
Speaker 3 (55:12):
Like Gredgen songs out now, first time Living. Everyone needs
to hear that.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
That is so good, beautiful song that makes me cry
the time I listen to it, because she definitely did it.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
Dush justice, It's you can feel it.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah, but I'm ready to crank it up. I got
two songs that were slow. My last two songs were slow.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
We got our feelings on already, feel like get back
to Creek vibes. Okay, okay, al I love it so much,
thank you for coming on.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
You were so wait I forgot to tell you, Oh
tell me that.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
I looked back at my podcasts, my Apple podcasts, and
I was because I've listened to your podcast forever.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yes, And the first one I listened to was twenty sixteen,
that's when I started. Yeah, the first one was Cody
Allen and Stormy Warming.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Story Story Warren. Yeah, that was my first year starting
podcast that I.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Actually listened to it like at that time, So heck, yeah,
when I was driving to my restaurant job, wanting to
do this for a living, I was listening to you.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
Well, thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
That makes me feel so good because sometimes you're just like,
I mean, I feel that way podcasting.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
Sometimes I'm like everyone else, I'm just gonna quit.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
I mean, I know people are listening, but I'm also like,
I just yes, it's one artist.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Because I love biographies and listening to people's story.
Speaker 3 (56:22):
Me too, that's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
If you're the one facilitating that, that can inspire lots
of people. I totally agree.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
I love to hear people's story because it's like your story.
It's like, Okay, you had.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Fifteen fourteen years of nothing, like wanting to give up,
and then it's like all of a sudden, you meet
one person, everything changes. So you've set yourself up for success.
Just one door had to open, yes, but it's having
the patience to get to that one door, you know,
and believing that it's gonna come. And it's so easy
to give up. And it's especially in this industry.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
If you just like work harder than everybody else and
you last longer, it's bound to happen.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah, you know what Rod Esseg, who I don't know
if he's still the head of caa booking agency, he
told me this a long time ago. But he's like,
if you are talented and you don't quit, you what
you're saying, It will work out for you somehow eventually,
because it has to.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
It has to collide, something has to go right, and
then Shandy universe is going to reward you, agree, or
the hard work you put in, which.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Leads me to my last question, leave your light, which
is just some inspiration.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
What do you want people to know to leave them inspired?
Speaker 1 (57:24):
I think just what we just said, like, if you
don't give up, and you put in the hard work,
and you believe in yourself, and you have at least
one other person that can pick you up when you're down.
You can make it happen.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Amen, Ali Walker, thank you so much for coming on
these is so fun. Love it, Okay, bye bye
Carl Lone. She's a queen talking a song. She's getting
really not afraid to feel.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Its episode soul.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Just let it flow. No one can do we quiet
Cary Lone is sounding carolund.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well. I am just thrilled to be here with Ali Walker.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What's happening?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I mean we got our hacking done right away.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, coughed up for Loogi her too.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's so disgusting.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
But I have this hacking issue that I feel like
every single time before I do a podcast, I got
hacked up, and it's like, okay, it's like a thing.
And I've never met someone to join in with me before.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Here we are that's friends right off the job, because
I feel like it just really took us to the
next level right away. What do you think, Well, I
think being singers too. You know when your voice is
like in the prime and when you know you've got
stuff stuck in there? Yes, and the worst is on stage.
Sometimes I'll take a puffer before I go on stage.
Was actually I've learned is the worst thing?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
What's a puffer?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Like a beuterol? Like when you have asthma. Oh okay,
and you like spray. It's like a steroid in your throat, okay,
to help you open your airwaist okay, and it actually
gets all your mucus going. So I'm hacking on stage
while trying it doesn't work. Yeah, so I can't take that.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
What do you do when a hack attack comes on stage?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
My husband, who's my playback, he can talk in my ears,
He's like, you need to take another shot of your puffer.
Come to the side of stage after the second song.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
But now I know the puffer is the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, the puffer's a problem. So I just went to
the doctor. So I was This is not I'm not
throwing names out there, but I was hanging out with
Shania Twain and I was just like, as a friend, no,
I opened.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
For her and then well I saw that and she
like learned your song on stage and y'all did like
three part harmony.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Crazy, like like best one of my life so far
for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Which we'll circle back to the moment, but then let's
talk about the hanging out.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
We were hanging out.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
How do you hang out with Shani Twain?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Well, she was on a three run date at this
festival in Newfoundland, which is like my family lives there,
so it was Canada.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, okay, so you're from Canada.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yes, from Canada Okay. And I got to meet her
on stage because I play with her. And then how'd
you get that opening spot just because you're a badass? Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You were nominated for like Canadian Artists of the Year.
I mean you got stuff going on. All the Canadians,
you were the one female.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
This was my first nomination ever and I was actually
really surprised that I got it.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So you're nominated for Female Hours a Year.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, which, like, I awesome. I thought maybe I would
get like New Artists or something, but that's straight to
the top. But hang out with Shanaya. I was like,
this is my moment to ask her random shit and
you did. Yeah, what'd you do?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I asked her because she's a fellow Canadian. I asked
her about like her business manager. Is it a Canadian
or is it an American? Because they need to know
all the tax laws for both countries.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
She's like, you need a Canadian? Okay, So I did
actually switch business managers okay to a Canadian. Yeah, I
got it. I literally listened to every single thing she
told me about.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Can you share all the team she.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Told me to go on singular for asthma, So I did, okay,
which is a medication form.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I think so should I said, so, so I must have.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And then I got my puffer and then I got
I'm on zero tech allergy pills and uh acid reflux nexium.
So I'm just taking all these things. And then she
told me like this whole thing about like not eating
before your show, and she like lays in the dark
in her hotel all day and people just bring her
like purified food. And I'm like, well, I don't have people. Yeah,
(03:47):
and you have her husband. I have my husband, but
he has like ten jobs come out. He's not going
to pure a like pure pure raid. Sorry yeah, period
pure raid food.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
So she only wants it like much of like apple
sauce style.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes, she does not chew food day of her show. Meanwhile,
I'm like, I eat McDonald's for every meal while I'm
on the road.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Why does she not choose food?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Because I guess she doesn't want to have. She doesn't
want to have she knows her body, I guess. So
I wrote it down, but I'm not at that point yet.
Like she brings her own ninja.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
With her, does she like do anything when she's laying
in the dark, like watch TV.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
No, she dark, like meditation music all day, all day.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
How do you do that all day?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I know, And I explained to her. I'm like, I'm
at the point of my career where I'm flying in
day of potentially, or I'm driving all morning and all night.
I haven't slept for a week, haven't showered, and need
to eat McDonald's, So I'm not at that point yet.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But like, how does one lay all day without going bananas?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Man, that's amazing. She's she's down too.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Funny art shows where she's she rips around stage like
she's running.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
She this is like the rebirth of Shanaya because I
feel like she kind of went silent for a little
while and then reimmerse yes and like, man did she
re emerge, like with incredible costumes, and I feel like
she like cuts some herself backstage before. I've seen like
documentaries or something where she's like the costion will be
I could be wrong, but like she like get.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Some scissors and like change it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And like, yeah, I've definitely watched all her documentaries and
read her book and because she's Canadian. I just know
everything about her, and she was like trying to she
was like explaining some stuff about her past life. I'm like,
I know, I don't have to tell me. I know
everything about you.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So y'all like hung out hung out?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah? Well shell like four am so like how many hours?
Well it was like after the show, so like midnight
to four hour is and she was just chatting with you. Yeah,
and she was so chill. She drank a whole bottle
of champagne and I was just.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Is she living her best life these days?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I feel like she's really in her like her best stri.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
She's so cool and she like swore and she was
like super Canadian and like you know, Canadian hillbilly vibes,
which is what I am.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So did you all like get numbers?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
No, okay, but she was like I'll send you this stuff.
I'm like, how are you going to Let's be honest, gosh.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
That's so cool because a lot of times, like megastars
like that don't hang out with people that like are
opening for them.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And I've never yes, I usually don't even get to
meet the person there.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, sometimes you don't even to meet them.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And the fact cause actually, so I made that happen.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Because, oh, go girl.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I heard that she doesn't meet opener sometimes and her
mean greets are not very big, Okay, So I was like,
how can I meet Shanaia'm I'm literally opening for the
Queen and I need to meet her. So I said, note,
but I play the bagpipes.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh I know, and I've got to I have so
many questions about the bagpipes.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
So I was like, other than that, like, she's not
going to care who I am, So what if I
played bagpipes to one of her songs?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So you learned it?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So that morning in the hotel, I learned any man
of mine on bagpipes? I have like my electric bagpipes.
So I sent her manager a video of me playing
it and she was like, yeah, she loves it, so
should I approved. And then when I was about to
go on stage with her, I was like, you know,
do you guys play in this same key like I
need to make They're like, no, you're not really gonna play,
like she's just gonna talk to you and you'll play
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it for like two seconds. You're not going to play
with the band. I had in ears, but I didn't
hear the count in of them actually joining me. So
I did the beginning of any Man of Mine, and
then the whole band came in in a different key
because I did an album key, and so she talked
to me in my ear and she's like, that's.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
The wrong gate.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Go figure out what key we're in. She and I did, yeah,
and I was like, I specifically asked if you guys
played it in this key, and they're like, no, don't
worry about it. Anyways, I ran backstage and this is
in the middle of the performance. Yeah, So I played
like the intro because it goes da da da da
da du du du da du dun dum, and then
it goes in and then everyone came in the key obviously,
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and then so I went to the back and so
I had to like tell the playback guy, I'm like,
or the monitor guy, I'm like, make sure it's not
out front because I need to play this thing back
here and figure out what key.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So you're figuring it out while it's already going on,
and then the key it modulates in the bridge.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So I anyways, did you figure to go?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I was like, was it weird when you ran on stage?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
No? No, no, we just like proud might have thought
it was weird, yeah, but I was like, this is
this is my mom when I got to figure this out,
and so I ran back out there once I figured
it out, and it was just at the very end
when they were doing that lick again, and then I
was like, Okay, that was cool, and then she was like,
let's do a duet. I'm like, just like on the spot, well,
let's just write a duet. Like I'm already nervous as heck.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Up here on stage in front of like how many
people are there.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
It's a festival, so tens of thousands, forty.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And she wants to just do a duet with you, yeage.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Thankfully. In my head, I was like, well, my only
bagpipe song is this one song called the Whiskey's Gone,
and it's really easy. It's repetitive when all the whiskey's gone,
Whiskey's gone, Whiskey's gone. And so she got it right
away and was doing harmony to me on the first
take before she had ever heard it.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
If y'allre working on stage, and then she pulls her
backup singer in also and like you Shanaia and another
backup singer are singing all okay, are singing all are
singing all this together on the spot.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, And then she wanted to do it four times,
so we did the whole chorus four times.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Did the audience just love that? I mean, how fun?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And it's an East Coast place and they're not that
bagpipes are normal really anywhere, but it's you know, kind
of normal there, so they probably thought it was cool.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
But like, props Shanaia for being that adventurous on stage,
you know, because like, what if it would have bombed?
She just knew it wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I guess I'm glad I pulled that out because there's
no way I could have written a song under that pressure.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So she wanted to if you didn't have one, would
y'all just try to write one?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Oh my gosh, she said, let's do a duet? Like
how do we just come up with a duet? That's amazing?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I know.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Anyways, one of the pieces of advice is that she
gave me after that too, is like, because I just
moved to Nashville a year ago, She's like, make sure
you don't fall into you know, sounding like everybody else.
There's a reason why you play the bagpipes. There's a
reason why you're from the East coast, Like keep those roots,
but obviously keep it commercial too. But so like that
was a really big piece of advice that she gave
me to knowing that I played the bagpipes. So now
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I'm like the bagpipe queen.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Why do you play the bagpipes? Which is so cool?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Well, where I'm from, it's pretty normal. Prince Edward Island
people played the bagpipes there. Mm hmm. A lot of
people I know play bagpipes. But there's a whole facility
called the College of Piping, and it's not really a college,
it's like an extra curricular place. Okay, And my mom
was the accountant there, and so I started like step
dancing and highland dancing and drumming.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Do you work that into your performances please say yes.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I don't. But I did step dance in the music
video for that bagpipe song. Yeah, I mean that's a
little that's a little gym you.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Have in your back pocket.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
It's different.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But I was gonna be a full bagpiper for like
my whole life. Like I got a scholarship to the
University of Arkansas for bagpiping, but I didn't because I
was like, I don't think I can do this like
as a career, and then I didn't touch them for
like ten years. And I was in a session here
writing session and it came up that I played bagpipes
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and the co writer was like, we need to write
a bagpipe song. Yeah, and I'm like, how do you
write a bagpipe song that like people are gonna totally
make pun up and laugh at. But we did and
it's like my top streaming song and people love it. It
went viral like when every time I posted about it.
So now I've on that was two years ago. I
haven't had a bagpipe song since. But every time I
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play live, people are like, we want more bagpipes, more bagpipes.
So my next single and I'm recording it tonight right
after this is called write it Out, and that'll have
bagpipe write it out, Write it out, okay, and uh,
I'm doing a bunch of ninety minute sets this year,
so we had to like obviously fill it with some stuff,
and so we're doing like a seventeen minute bagpipe medley.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Heck, yes you are.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Add the dancing and the dancing oh, I don't about
the dance, allie.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Seriously, you should add the dancing.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You should show all your skills on the stage, Like
who's that guy Brinson Boone Benson Boone? Yeah, okay, he
just did flips on stage because he can't like the
Grammy's Like, he just like ran off the piano and
did a flip and then you just did another flip
while he was just like walking on stage because he can. Like,
here's the thing. If you can do these things, you
should just do them because it is so cool to
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see people who have secret skills. Like you know, you're
already you're beautiful. Now you're busting out the bagpipes, and
then you're gonna bust out your dancing.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I mean on it's beautiful dancing. It's step down, it's
fair like regiment.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You should do like a little bit in the med League.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Just and then bring people up on stage and that'll
feel that will help fill the nine.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Just do like a tiny, tiny moment of the dance.
Just keep it in.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Shani did that in her Don't be stupid. Remember when
she does the dancing and the water's coming In the
music video, they all do the step dance. Maybe because
she's from Canada, right right, saying Shanaia did it? Shania
should approved.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Okay, I will look into that.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I want you to really look into this. Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I don't want you to just forget about this. Okay,
I will Okay, great. You know I have a bad
pipe story.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Oh please.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It was a really bad one.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
So I was on the Amazing Race like ten years ago,
and we were in Ireland, Scotland, Ireland.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I wonder which one does the bagpipes. I was such
a blurk.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Both of them do, but it would probably be like
Glasgow or Edinburgh and Scotland.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yes, okay, Scotland, Scotland.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It was in Scotland, and the challenge was to play
the bagpipes, and you had to walk around this whole
room playing the bagpipes for two.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Minutes and you couldn't google that.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
You couldn't let the music stop. But I had to
breathe into something. I've noticed you don't. You weren't doing.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Your mouth with it. So I normally like that. The
Highland bagpipes are the normal bagpipes. But I have an
electric bagpipe, so I can like plug it in and
be able to walk around the stage and I can
play it in any key. So I play like Thunderstruck
and Crazy Train, and I play anemn of mine and
I do double one down at Georgia, and they're all
different keys, and the bagpipes only in one key, and
it's usually not really in tune with like a band. Okay,
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so this one can change any key, and it doesn't
have like the big drones. And yeah, you don't have
to blow into it, because like how do you blow
and sing at the same time.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Right, Okay, well that's great. Well this one you had
to blow into. Some fun fact about bagpipes. There's a
there's a real thing about a jaw muscle, Like my muscle.
My jaw went out because like I was doing it
going around and I got like almost the end, but
then I like lost it almost the end.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I was like, no problem, it'll be no big deal
because the first time it was so easy. But I
just like lost my breath at the end, tried to
do it again, my jaw went out.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I need to see this.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I had a full blown meltdown because I was like,
my jaw's not working.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I cannot get my mouth to blow this freaking bagpipe anymore.
I finally made it to the end, Like I don't
know how because the more you do it, the more
so your jaw is too and your lips will just
not work your lips up working your whole mouth falls apart.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, when I was like at my prime of you know,
I've been to Scotland at the World Championships, Like.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You're the World Championship, so you're freaking good.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Gonna like be a bagpiper, but that was a career goal.
It's definitely gonna. And I gave really good money because
I was always like piping you know, leader political leaders
into buildings or I was doing funerals or weddings, and
you made good money. Heck yeah, yeah, But I get
that because I haven't blown into a bagpipe in years,
(15:16):
and so I would be like, you, like, you have
to get your lungs going, and maybe I should do that.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
So something with a jaw muscle, though my jaws locked up.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I don't know why, because when you blow over a
long time, your jaw locks up.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Apparently. I deal with these kind of jokes all the time,
and I try not to be appropriate when I.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Talk about it's really hard not to.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You got lock lock jobs.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I got lockshaw hard and I finally made it through.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But I was like, dang, I wonder if you've ever
had bagpipe lockjaw.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
No, it's usually the lips they go numb. Okay, yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
This is great ally, I mean, this is some good
stuff you got going on here.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Thank you? Yeah, I mean you gotta do something to
stand out these days. There's so many people doing it.
Anyone can write a song and anybody can put it
on social media. I know. So if I gotta be
the dang bagpipe girl, I'll be the.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Big I mean, if you're a world champion, why would
you not be? Ye, Like, don't just like tuk a
talent like that in your pocket and forget about it.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Well I just didn't want to be like the bagpipe girl,
but why not? But now I'm like, well people want
the bagpipes, so it's great.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, the bagpipe. And you also wear chaps.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I do wear chaps sometimes.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, I mean you look great in chaps.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh, thank you?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
How did you start doing chaps?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I was at what's that bar where they wore chaps?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Don't know. I do not leave the house.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I was doing a gig in Kentucky with whiskey jam okay.
And it was at this place where these girls were
chaps and I was like, oh, okay, pbr pbr okay, pber.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I was gonna say cowboy ugly, but that's not existing,
coot coyote ugly.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, but they they looked really good on them. They
did like the basically thong underneath, and I was like, hmm,
we'll probably wear shorts, but I just love them. And
then I bought them in like five different types of
but there there's like cowboy chaps where like they wear
them on horses, but these are like motorcycle chaps.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Okay, So is it kind of like your thing?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I don't know. I'm trying to figure out because that
was for one song I didn't and all the all
the girls in.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
The music for Nashville, Yeah, which is so good, and
you were at that with Walker Hayes.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yes, I can't get that one out of my head.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh gosh, nash I don't know, but it's so hooky
that one ruffled some feathers. Why because there's goody goodies.
Well and I say the F word you, Oh, I
don't Okay, when does the effort say fuck you? Whoops?
Dolly part in my French.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Oh you say that in the beginning though, oh Dolly
parton my French.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yes, And I also say ass and ship maybe.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So you're just feeling it. You just wanted to drop
it drop. You're needing a letter right now, feeling well.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I seed to change those to be cleaner. But the
label head of the label was based out of New
York City, and that's normal for like their type of music,
our R and B Records.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, you're a Sony Records.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's like records. It's called records with Sony and they're
based out of Nashville or New York. And he was like,
this is the one, this is the one that's going
to do. So they put like, you know, their marketing
behind it and hired influencers to do the dances and
all that, and it was just it. I loved it,
but it was like a little Craig Kray.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Does that make you feel a little nervous when like
you're pushing yourself in that way, like you're kind of
like being a little you know.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, we went a little softer after that, because you
need a real kid. I did reel it back in and.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I like my last two songs and Chaps dropping the
F bomb. If you had only thrown the back thing,
yeah yeah, yeah, the bagpipe would have saved it.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Maybe. Yeah. But that was the first time that I've gotten.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Like hate, Oh people, what does that feel like?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
It actually didn't bother me as much as I thought
it would, because, like, I don't care about anyone's opinion.
But how'd you get there?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Because that's like good self worth? Way I have confidence.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I think I was born with it. I don't know.
I still care about like making a good impression on people,
but I, for some reason don't care what people think. Okay, really,
just as a kid, like I had corner rows and
dreadlocks as a kid and are like you know, inappropriate now,
but had all of like I which had a buzz
cut I had, you know, I was just not a
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cute kid, and I didn't care.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
But you're such a gorgeous woman.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Well thanks, you know, I was chubby and not cute,
but like it just made me confident, I guess, okay, okay,
until I came into myself. I discovered a tanning bed
and a hair salon.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
What age was that.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I don't know, junior high maybe and like boys, and.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
But you married young and fell in love young, right.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, I had met my husband when I was twenty Okay,
and is he older years ago? Yeah, he's twelve years
older than me. So when I said he was thirty two, yeah,
he had just retired from being a touring drummer. And
I had just moved from Prince Edward Island to Toronto,
which is Canada's biggest city, to have like more opportunities
(20:24):
in music. And he had always been like a hired
guy and wanted to be a part of some kind
of thing from the ground up. He didn't realize ground
up was going to be like fifteen years lucky him.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, yeah, he's been like the biggest asset of my
career basically. How soo like making me not quit? Oh really? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
So he like helps you stay on stay on focus.
Now it's not discouraged.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Not at all. Yeah. You know, because I've been with
him and doing this for fifteen years that there has
been so many points where I'm like I am not
good enough for shouldn't be doing this or why hasn't
this happened for me yet? And he always it's you know,
once a month takes me into that hole of you know,
you're great, you know, all positive things, and he has
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so many things like structured thing. He's like, he makes
me do vision boards, he makes me, you know, be
very business minded and project management minded. So he's just
been an asset for everything. And now he's my tour manager.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
That's great, and well is that great or is that hard?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
It's been different, okay, because.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's a lot of together time and then he's in
charge of you on the road ish kind of Yeah,
so what is that?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
It's been the last year and it's been me and
him forever only Like I've never had a manager. It
never had a label, never had any other team member.
And this last year I met my manager and he
was based in Nashville, and so we moved to Nashville.
I have a brand new manager. I have a whole
management team, have a label, have a publishing company, have
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new booking agents.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Did the manager get you the label, the publishing and
all that? Yeah, so the manager has been great. Oh
he's okay, can you say who the manager is?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
His name's Brad Tercott.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
He was always a label guy. He worked a big machine.
He was Taylor Swift's International Girl Guy and Universal whatever.
But he used to own a label back in the
day and used to manage and he never thought he
would get back into it. But I went to the
Canadian Country Music Awards.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Where you're nominated for best.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I wasn't that time. I was an absolute nobody and
I had been going to these awards and there's like
seminars and stuff where you go and meet people whatever.
And I was like, I didn't. I don't want to
go this year because you got to pay for your
flight across Canada, you got a hotel, you got to
pay for these seminars. It's so expensive for me to
just like chat with people. But I was like, I
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gotta go. I gotta keep your face in front of people.
And I met him. I signed up for like an
international mentor thirty minutes in a boardroom, and I gave
him my pitch, basically like expecting nothing out of it.
He had no idea who I was, and he was like,
why hasn't anybody like there must be something wrong with you?
Like why, I'm like, I don't know, broll. I am
(23:03):
like banging my head against the wall. Here in Canada.
Nobody gives a shit about me, I'm I've got more followers,
and these people, I got more streams, and these people
I've got all of I'm checking all the boxes, but
no one cares and no one is noticing. And so he,
you know, did his due diligence that afternoon and talked
to everybody in the industry that was there, and they're like, no,
we love Ally, wech We didn't know that she didn't
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have a team because I have all these things that
I've done myself. So he like scooped me up. He
found me later that night and was like, I want
to be your manager. Wow, And I just needed that
one person to open the door for me. Yes, So
we kind of went to every label in town, and
Records felt like the right fit, and Sony Pub was
like automatically the right fit. Everyone at Sony Pub just
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felt like a family. And that has been like the
biggest thing I'm proud of is is getting a publishing
deal because I love writing and them hooking me up
with like the most incredible writers is incredible. So this
year has been like the biggest transition of my entire life,
moving here, my husband having a new role. He quit
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his corporate job that he's been supporting us for the
last fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
When is he in corporate?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So he started as a technician for a telecommunications company
after he you know, stopped being a drummer, so he
would be like the person that comes and puts internet
into your house, okay, And then he just like kept
moving up. And I was a project manager with another
telecommunications company.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Okay, so we quit it hung it up to be
the tour manager, yeah, and just.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
To come down here and support me because he couldn't
work down here really, So I got my visa and
then he came and he's on my visa as my
tour manager, and he does like my playback, he does
all my merch. He's he's now appointed my assistant as well,
because I just I'm like, I need you to do
other things as well.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
He better remember it too, right, where's my coffee?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Let me wake up? It's more like release schedules, like
building it into Monday dot com and make sure that
we're like doing everything and stuff like.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Has he liked his new role, yes, but we have
butted heads because we're also you know, a whole new
live rig where we're doing new tracks and new songs
and new transitions, and he's learning all this stuff with
abletons and the tracks and all like it's it's a
whole new world and us getting a whole new bunch
of gear. So he's been overwhelmed. So I have to
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remind him, like do you like this? Because if if
you don't, I don't want you to be doing this.
But he loves it. He just it's a lot when
a show day, he's got to do the merch and
the playback and the sound check and the advancing and
making sure I'm eating and I'm you know, a fed
and I've got my glass of one before the show.
So he does everything.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
It's nice to have somebody because I can't imagine how
much I would pay somebody to do that. Oh my god, right, yeah, truly, truly.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Well that works out.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, it's good. So we're finally getting our groove. Like
last year it was like everything all at once, signed
with the label to do sign with that shows, and
this year it's like we're doing a lot of shows
in America for the first time, and we're going over
to UK and Australia and all that. So how it's
like enjoying. I said, let's enjoy this year because last
year we were like nuts.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
So did the new manager get all this going for you?
Is that wy?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
And is that what kind of got you notice back
in Canada to get nominated for Canadian Female Urs the Year.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
So Brad Brad Brad great man. I mean, he's been awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
He's amazing, and he's like a little trio with my
husband and I like, we're all best friends. That's awesome.
We love when he comes out on the road and
we just hang out together. That's awesome. Yeah, we love it.
And uh yeah, I mean I thought maybe I So
it's like the CCMA is probably like all the other awards,
but you like need people to submit you and then
it's just industry people that vote for it. And so
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I told, like my fellow comrades, I'm like, don't vote
for me this year because my Canadian label said, you know,
I'm not going to bring a priority this year and
it's not my year. So I was like, don't vote
for me for anything, just submit me. Bagpipes so like
a Utility Player of the Year. And so when he
called me, he was like congrats. I was like, oh,
did I get a nomination for bagpipes and he was like,
(27:10):
now Female Artists of the Year, and I was like, whoa,
that's nuts. Yeah against like Mackenzie Porter and Danial Towns
and madel Merlou So they had no idea who I
was those girls, and I had been fans of them
for you know, a decade, fifteen years, and then this
random little meat pops up and they're like.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
It was your time. All the stars aligned.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, obviously didn't win, but so you.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
But so because you said this, you were like, You've
been in the music business for fifteen years, but like,
not one year was worth documenting until twenty twenty four
he put on one of your posts. But so it's
like everything happened on once. You really had had not
much going before.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Then. Did Shani happen last year? Did all that happened
last year? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I didn't have a booking agent, so I wasn't doing
any good shows, like any shows that I was booking.
I booked Cabinish Beach Music Festival with just a huge
festival in Canada, and I booked Boots and Hearts by myself.
But you can't aalodic stuff by yourself, you know, Obviously,
people always want that third party validation that you're worth booking.
So I had just got that. I got basically that
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Canadian booking agent the day that Brad signed on because
I'd already been working them. They just needed to know
that it wasn't just me on my team. So yeah,
he got. I had a lot of Canadian gigs last year,
and I checked off a lot of like big festivals
that I've always wanted to play.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
So how is it when your dreams become reality? How
does it feel? Is it as good as you hope
it'd be?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Is it better?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's exactly what I thought because I've lived in my
mind in this moment.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Are you a big visualizer?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, well man, you do the manifest boards and yeah,
vision boards.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Vision boards, and I have like an Excel vision board too,
so that I can see, like right on paper, like
all the things.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So like, I don't know what's on the vision board
for this year enjoying.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh my god, there's so many things.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Okay, what are some of them?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Well, there's things like last year, I always wanted to
be in Music Row magazine. Okay, you know, so then
I got to tick that off, and like I've always
wanted to be on the Bobby Bones podcast. I want
to at least walk a red carpet for like, you know,
a CMA or ACM or something.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I'm sure that will happen this year.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, maybe. But there's there's so many like little things
like that, like be on war Gunther's show on Apple.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Oh yeah, like Maddy used to work for Word and
Whiskey Jam.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I've done Whiskey Jam a bunch, so you know it all.
And I've really big main one of serious text the Highway.
I've never been on the Highway, so oh that's coming.
I'd like to be on the horizon and then a
highway find Okay, yeah, heck yeah, yeah. I mean there's
just so many things. I have never been on an
actual tour, so I have all these one off like
(29:48):
flyout dates, but I've never like open for somebody on
a long length of time.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Because so that's on the vision board. That's anyone in
particular that you would love to open for.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
O like I guess Lanny Morgan Bailey, I like, I
like Broke Country, I love it, like Jason Alden or
Luke Bryan, Nice Ella Langley, Oh she's love Ella. There's
not a lot of people like kind of in my
vein that are females, So I don't know who I
would really picture kind of for female, but a heck
(30:22):
yeah if she did like a country album.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
And then okay, so I want to know, how did
you get hooked up with Gretchen Wilson first time living
this song you have out?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
And is this a true story for you?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Because I heard this song and it made me cry,
like it was like really emotional because it's basically kind
of tell us the premise of this song because I
feel like this is a very touching song. And Gretchen
was like, I have never had a song written that
I related to so much that felt like it told
her story, which is crazy because she's such a great songwriter.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I know.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
And the biggest pat on my I've ever gotten was
when I was at Sony Pub in Nashville and I
was showing them the finish song and Rusty the president there,
he was like, you need to put yourself on the
back because it's very hard to do a concept for
a song that's never been done or not been done
a hundred times. So that was like the first time
I'm like, maybe I am a real songwriter, even though
(31:19):
I've been writing forever. You know, we all haven't bossed
her syndrome. But I just had the title. I'm a
big titles gal, so I have a million titles in
my phone, but I had first time living. And normally
when you write songs, as you know, like there's a
track person in the room, and I usually don't. I
want there to be a track person in the room.
But this time it was like at Sony Publishing in
(31:39):
one of their little closets basically, and it was just
us three girls and I.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Love Whitney Duncan, but yeah, I never did it.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Was she was due like basically that day. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
And Kat Higgins, she's a fellow Canadian. I hadn't writen
with her in like ten years, and we were all
just talking about like parents and how we all grew
up differently and how we all view our parents in
different ways, or how as a child we were to
our parents, and we just started writing the song and
(32:11):
it was all organic, like just on guitars. So I
went home and I had just like a voice note
and I am a perfectionist in a way that I
would never put something online that like I had just written,
because I feel like if I sang it a million times,
it'd be better. But I something about that song. I
just I knew it was different. So I put it
(32:32):
up on social media right away, and people loved it
and my manager loved it. So the second verse was
actually completely different. So the song is based on forgiving
your parents for making mistakes along the way and just
like giving them grace because it was their first time living. Literally,
like they're not going to be perfect and they might
mess you up a little bit, but if you were
(32:53):
in their shoes, imagine it could have been way harder
than you even imagine what they were going through at
that time. So the second verse was just about like
a boyfriend and giving her boyfriend grace for you know,
being a bad boyfriend because you were young, and that
was fine. But when I sent the scratch vocal or
whatever to my manager, Brad, he thought it was about
(33:15):
giving a child grace for the child like messing up
and not making the right decisions. And I was like, oh, wow,
that's way better. So I rewrote the second verse to
be from the mother, and then the first one was
about from the kid, and then I got back on
a zoom with Kat and Whitney and we figured it
all out and then I was like, well, this obviously
(33:36):
needs to be a duo, Like I don't want to
be the mom and the child. So we're like, who
could be my mom age wives like Riba Shunaya, Gretchen,
And so we just sent it to Gretchen and she
like replied the same day she said she was bawling
and she sent it to her mom and she resonates
with it because her mom had her really young h
(33:57):
and I'm sure she had to give her mom a
lot of grace, not knowing how to be like she
was sixteen. Of course, she don't know how to be
a mom at sixteen. And then she also has a
daughter and her the first line of the chorus is
don't we all need a little grace? And her daughter's
name is Grace. So then she probably was balling because
of that too.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Oh my gosh, So did you is this a true
story for you? Did you have some forgiving to do
to your parents?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I mean, my parents were incredible.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Okay, because you also have some really funny play on titles.
I was listening to your demo sessions and you have
one called pull.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Out and Pray One night's Dan Houston Other Problem.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
But pull out in the prey sounded like like I was.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Like, isn't it yes?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
And that one was a heart wrencher. But because it's
not about sex, it's about your mom. Well, but it's
about your mom.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
No, it would be like me as a narrator pull
out and pray if you guys don't know what that is.
I actually wanted it to have double meaning of like,
you got pregnant because you did the pull home and
pray method. Oh okay, and you got and it was
with the wrong guy and he ended up being in a.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
And so now you have to pull out of the house,
out of the.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Driveway with your child and never look back.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Oh Allie, I mean that is heavy. Heavy.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
It's so good though, I was like, dang, I mean
your songs are getting me all emotional.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I'll be honest. I definitely pull because I don't have kids,
and you know, I've been in the same relationship forever,
gonna have to pull from other places. First time leaving,
I definitely pulled from experiences with my parents. They were amazing,
but no parent is literally perfect and they're like I'm
never gonna tell them what they did. That like messed
me up in certain ways, but I've had to like
(35:34):
learn how to overcome it. But that song, oh sorry,
First Time Living is heavily inspired by my sister. So,
my sister was a hard team for my parents to
take care of, and she got pregnant really young, and
(35:56):
my parents always said, when you have kids, you're gonna
know what you put us through. And then of course
she has four kids now, so she knows exactly what
she put my parents through. So it was inspired by
that too.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
What does your sister think about the song?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
She loved it. That was the first song. I mean
when we're in a group text she replies like one
every million texts because she's got four four kids, and
then her husband now also has four kids, so there's
like eight kids.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Oh my god, how old are the kids?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
She got? Like twins?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
She has twins?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, twins, And then I think like ten, twelve, eighteen,
gosh crazy. But uh, that was one that she actually
replied to in the group chat and said, wow, I
love this, so I knew it was good.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
And then you played it for your mom like on
the couch.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, I know how was that, Well, she that was hard.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I mean, that's a heavy that's a moment right there.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I know that was really hard, like and I'm such
a crier that, like I just had to separate myself
and think about like Grandma's panties at that point so
that I don't cry. You know. I'm going to play
for the first time at a show this weekend, so
we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Okay, where are you playing Portland organ I love Orgon.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, I'm pumped. I've never been, so you're just like
living your best life right now. Yeah, And I'm like
this year, I really want to enjoy it all. So
like I just played in Park City and I'm like, okay,
well I'm going to book my flight later so that
i can actually go snowboarding. Yeah, or like We're going
to Berlin and Glasgow and London and I'm like, okay,
we I'm going to book an extra day between this
(37:30):
so that I can go see a castle or go.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Like actually like have a little enjoy the scenery.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, because when you're on tour, like you don't get
to do that. You're just eating from truck stops and tired. Yeah,
So if I can kind of enjoy it because not
that I'm like a pessimist or whatever it's called, but
I'm like, you never know what's gonna last forever, so
I want to enjoy like these moments.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Right, Okay, So if if it all ended tomorrow, would
you go to bagpiping? No?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I would we've gone from that moved on.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
You would not be a professional bagpiper.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
No, No, I think that's past for me.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Do you think you'll stay in America?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Like?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Do you like living here? What's the difference between here
in Canada? Oh?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
My god, It's everything I've ever wanted it to be,
really so like growing up I watched the Hills, Laguna
Beach and Friday Night Lights, and as a Canadian and
a really small growing up in a really small place,
I just always wanted to be American. You did always.
It is like the American dream as a Canadian. So
that's why I moved to Toronto because it was the
(38:30):
closest thing I could legally go to that would be
like like New York City. And when I moved here
and just like having like having the food or like
just there's so many it's so America, Like it's exactly
what I thought America would be like, I mean, I've
been here, I've been coming here for thirteen years. But
to actually live here, like it just feels like it's
where I'm supposed to be and like what I've been
(38:52):
waiting for forever.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Really, yeah, it was it easy to like integrate and
make friends?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Was that hard? How do you do that?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I knew a lot of people here already, and I
don't I feel bad, but I don't have time for friends. Yeah,
you know, and I.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Feel you're married, your husband and he's got y'all are
like a little partnership.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, I've got my dogs lonely.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah, you got doodles, right, two doodles.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, it's so sweet. I mean that's the hardest part.
Like I can't work until I get to tour bus
status so that I can bring the doggies with us,
because like dropping them off at the sitters every weekend
is sad and costly. M hm, But yeah, I know.
(39:36):
I but the hardest thing was to get somewhere to live,
because when you move here, it takes like a year
to build credit. So I'm like not even in the
system at all. So I would apply for these houses
on Zillow to rent, and it would just show up
as like I don't exist, and it's like what comes
first a chicken out of the egg because you need
like your license, but you also need your Social Security number.
(39:58):
You can't get your license with a social You can't
get this without a bill, and you can't get a
bill without a somewhere to live. You can't you can't
get a cell phone without credit. So it's like it
was all of these things of I wish I could
write a whole like book about it so that people.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Like a little honestly and again how to maybe yeah, honestly.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
The first step is to get a working or yeah,
working visa, and that's hard to get unless you have
like someone signing for you that says they're gonna and
your manager it help to port you. Yeah, so he's
going to pay for the bus ticket if I get
to ported Okay, but you're for three years, so yeah, okay,
I don't think I'll go back to Canada. I have
(40:39):
property in Canada that we're like gonna build on later
in life. It's like five acres on the top of
a mountain in the middle of nowhere. Okay, that's like
our dream place later in life. But I would like
like a ranch here. We obviously land for my doggies
to run around. That's the goal for Nashville, and like
the end end goal for me is California. Okay, like
(41:03):
beach house in the OC, because I'm going back to Laguda.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Bees really shaped your life.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
It shaped my life.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I mean, you love and Cavalari. Have you met her yet?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
No?
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I have What are you going to do when you
meet her?
Speaker 1 (41:13):
I don't know. I haven't seen her.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
And you know Stephen is here too, really Stephen from
the Hills.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I'd love to meet Lauren. I loved Whitney.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Listen if you you can go. Wait, No Whaler, Whaler?
What's his last name? Whaler?
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I think his name is not Stephen, the one who No,
he was kind of like rebellious on the show.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Uh, he wasn't. He wasn't Stephen and he wasn't I.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Know, I know, I don't know, I don't. I have
a memory of literally a fish.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Ashley Whaler is a hairstylist though, who's amazing, and she's
married to him on the Hills.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So there's your inn and you have great blonde hair.
If you need to look it up.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Am I working myself into my dream life for when
I was fourteen?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I know?
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Literally?
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Okay, so the hills are why you want to go
to California.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, I've always wanted a house in the OC. But
I also watch like all trash TV.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
You love trash TV because you said your song Creek
was inspired by Love Island, Love Island.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, I watch it all real housewise anything Bravo gives
me or peacock and what.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Does it do for your soul? When you watch it?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Makes me realize I'm a little more normal.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
I hear people say that all the time, and hates it.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
He's like, it's so negative. All I hear is them
cackling at each other.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Is he very positive? It sounds like he or like
trying to be positive, Like.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, I guess well, he's making you do visually encouraging,
very encouraging.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
I wouldn't say he's a negative, No, not at all.
But he hates me watching negative TV. But it's a
way for me to just not think about life. Like
I'm the type of person that never has silence, and
I just have that in the background, like while I'm
doing my makeup or hair, always but the like the
Real Housewives of the OC or Beverly Hills. I'm like, yeah,
I want that.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Labe, not the actual life, just like the house.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Life, the house, the house, yeah yeah, the water. Yeah okay,
And like I grew up on an island and we
had beaches and it was on the ocean. So that's
the dream too. But where I'm from, it's nice, like
two months of the year. Where are you from, Prince
Edward Island.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Prince Edward. I have never been to Canada.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
It's like the it's the Cape Cod Maine of Canada.
So it's all like oysters, muscles, lobster and you love
all that. Yeah, I'll shoot. I brought you a little
gift actually in the oyster it's all pi stuff not.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
It was very high.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
I brought you well you'll see. It was Mabel's syrup
and this drink. I bet if I ever heard of
Anna green Gables the show. Yeah it's a book, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Someone it's a book that was made into a series. Yeah,
so Landon I think was in it. Maybe he was
a very foxy man back in the day.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
He passed away. God bleshers all.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
My mom, Well, she's big in Pei. People come to
Pei and like expect to see her, but she's a fictional.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Character and I was gonna say, does she live there?
That's where she lived in the book.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Within the book, and then the writer Lucy Mom Montgomery
was from Pi. Anyways, this whole everyone loves and everything's
Anne in Pi. So I brought you this raspberry cordial,
which is like she used to drink in the book.
Thank you. I brought cow chips, which another thing is
this ice cream shop called Cows and it was one
of my first jobs ever. And they have these potato
(44:19):
chips covered in milk chocolate and potatoes are like a
huge thing. A Pi too, oh a Pi ca.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
This sounds like a paradise. Are you sure you want
to leave?
Speaker 1 (44:29):
It is paradise for two months of the year, okay, yeah,
for sure, But the rest of.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
The time, no seasonal depression.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yeah oh my gosh. Yeah, but my parents are They're
building this house on the water, so I'll always have
somewhere to go. But for like not now, Okay, I
love that.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
So what is success to you?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Success is to have a big property that my dogs
can run around. No. I just honestly, that's a really
hard question because I have found lately now that I'm
like crossing off. I just move on to the next thing,
and I don't even take time to like soak in
(45:07):
the fact that I've wanted these things forever. But success
is just like being happy doing what I love. If
I could make an actual living where I don't have
to think about my bills doing what I love, that'd
be great. And then you know, mansion and Laguna Beach.
(45:27):
I'd like it for it to happen while my parents
are still able, you know, because I want them to
see that fifteen years of hard work.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
So your career is like all consuming, Yes, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
We've been an artist, and it's so hard to have
any other life beside your career, especially when you're grinding
it out, and especially since everything just clicked last year. Yeah,
but like everything clicked last year, everything like nothing to everything.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Yeah, And that was the hard part. I've always had
a million jobs and it was so depressing, like going
to work as a server, bartender, anything. I had a
million jobs, but like, is it ever gonna happen? Am
I going to be a server forever? It seems like
you get very frustrated. Yeah, and like super depressed and
had to have somebody to pull me out of it
(46:16):
because there were so many times that I was like unwell.
I actually wrote a whole album based on my mental
health in my twenties.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Talk to me about that.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
You can't find it anywhere because it's like I took
it off.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
But what what was the concepts of the songs?
Speaker 1 (46:29):
So it was called The Basement Sessions What I've Learned
so Far, and I did it in my basement with
my husband. My husband produced it, and I wrote all
the songs by myself, and all the concepts were just
being in your twenties, and in your twenties you're finding
yourself anyways, even if you have a job at a bank,
like you're still finding yourself, but finding yourself when you
also need to like be a brand and chasing something
(46:52):
that you have no idea if it's actually going to happen,
and it costing so much to do and working other jobs.
And then your twenties you also want to have fun.
And I was working in the service industry and I
would go out and drink every night, and you know,
not do good things. So I got I stopped drinking
for a while, and I wrote this album and went
(47:13):
down a self love route. Listen to every podcast that's
ever been made, read every book, self help book. Actually
never had been to therapy. But I was doing all
the things I could every day to make myself better,
and so I wrote songs that were like take your
power back. I wrote a song called fight till the End,
(47:35):
love Yourself, and I called it mindful music and conscious Country,
So it's kind of like a concept album of mindfulness.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Do you feel like that helped you?
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:45):
It was totally like a fer Me thing because now
I'm like, I'll have drinking songs, I'll have partying songs.
And that was kind of like a phase of my
twenties of like how am I going to get through?
You know, your twenties.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
It's so brutal.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah, I mean my twenties I was chaotic, like all
over the place, struggled with like self worth, body image,
same kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Am I really ever gonna be anything? Yeah, especially when
you're trying to do something that's like there's no blueprint for.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Actually what triggered it all was I had really bad
systic acme for like a decade, like all of my twenties,
and I was always trying to heal it naturally, and
on stage it was annoying because that looked like, you know,
the rocky mountains on my face when I had like
all the makeup on it, and I was so self
conscious of it, and I would post pictures and I
(48:37):
would face tune the crap out of it. And then
one day I just said screw it, and I posted
a picture of like my full face just being read
and like telling people, hey, I've been lying to you.
This is what I actually looked like. And that was
like the most freeing thing I've ever done. Really, yeah,
And that led me to just being more open about everything.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Did you get what was the feedback? When you were.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Obviously all nice, so supportive? And that opened up me
just taking my audience and like making them like family
and friends instead of like separate.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Instead of like here I am, I'll put together with
the wall between.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Us, yes, And I try to do that now, Like
I still am a perfectionist. And I was talking about
like the guitar thing or singing raw, like I still
stop myself all the time of trying not to be
a perfect perfectionist. And I one of my first posts
this year, it was like me playing the bagpipes looking
hideous in my bed, and I was like, I need
to do more stuff like this. I think that people
(49:31):
want to see like the perfect side of it, because
I'll see other artists look so glammed up all the time,
like Megamaroni looks perfect all the time, or you know
all these artists, and I'm like, well, maybe that's just
not my path. I need to show more of a
vulnerable side and the real side. And every time I do,
I get so many more comments of support.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
How did you go viral.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
When you just always been viral?
Speaker 3 (49:55):
Because like viral and then like didn't it keep going
like di crete go viral?
Speaker 1 (49:59):
I don't know what viral like.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I don't know like where you get, Like I didn't
go to the dash of viral, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
It's been just like steady. So first time I went viral,
like over millions of views, was a song called country
music because I made it.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
That's viral, that's viral. I was considered viral.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Well that's good. I mean it was like during TikTok,
during like COVID, so people were TikTok was easier. And
then I rewrote a Morganwall and song sand in My
Boots from The Female Perspective that went viral, and then
my bagpipe. Every time I posted this bagpipe video. I
posted the same video like ten times and it went
viral every time. It just like kept. I was like,
(50:38):
it's reaching new people every time I post it, and
Creek went viral because I was singing in the creek
this my song Creak, and people were just like making
jokes about calling me names of like famous people, but
like country version, you did it real about that? What
(50:58):
were there some of the NAMESIC told you, like Avril
Ravine and I don't I can't even think of them.
I have a terrible memory. But yeah, I did a
whole video where I was reading like I mean tweets basically,
but they weren't even that me, Like, they're so funny
and it creates engagement on the video and it did
really well and it actually translates farts. One of them
was farts oh uh Dolly Farton. Yeah, thanks, It was
(51:23):
fun like I love that kind of stuff. And then
I the second line of that song, a catch you
like a catfish. I played at the Nashville Predators hockey game,
like they have a little band there and they do
this thing with catfish, people throw catfish onto the ice,
and so we planned. My manager is a big marketing guy,
(51:44):
so we planned, hey, maybe we could do something with
a fish, like maybe I just kiss it or something.
But I was singing that song that was the last
song on my set, and it's not on TV, like
it's just for the viewers in the arena usually when
you play like at that band stage. But they cut
to realty at the end of that song Creek, and
we planned to put beer in the dead catfish and
(52:07):
then I chugged, yeah, and mouth out of his gutty mouth.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
So my manager was a part of it, and he
poured the beer into it and then I chugged it.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
So it like went into the organs and then came
back out when you drink it.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah, Well they gutted it though. It's really clean, okay,
And I didn't taste it at all. And it instantly
like after I finished that song, it was on like
ESPN all of the sports televisions, and I went on
Twitter right after my set and it like had gone viral.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
Is that fun to go viral?
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (52:38):
I guess I did do anything, Does it change your.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
Life something like that? No, because it's just like a
pr stugn kind of but I appreciate it more. Like
my song Readbiner Whiskey did really well where it like
went viral ish, Not really, but it was. It was
at a point where people actually pressed and listened to
the song, and it's not just like some funny thing
where like people actually liked the song so they went
and streamed it. And I think that's the type of
(53:03):
viral that you want to go.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
I actually I listened to music and become a real fan. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah, but there's always the pressures of going viral, Like
even with being with the label, they still expect the
number one marketing tool to be is virality.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
And you can't play for that.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Oh and it's so fickle. You can plan, but it
doesn't always work. Like we tried really hard with Nashville
to make that like a viral hit and you can't.
You maybe you can, but maybe we did it wrong.
But you can't create a viral moment in my experience,
I agree, like it has to be organic mm hmm,
because people can sniff out when it's not.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I love your journey, I mean ally you have, just
like I just love to see people who just like
stay on the path, keep going, because like, you never
know when you're gonna hit your year fifteen years of
nothing really and then all of a sudden, everything yeah
changed over night.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Literally. Yeah, and I where I met my manager. I
was not gonna go because I was, but the fact
that I went it was because as soon as you're
about to give up is when it happens.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
That is so true.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
It's always when it happens, and I'm grateful. I'm grateful
for it, you know, finally going like this instead of
like this.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
You have to have the moment or else. I mean,
it's just so hard to a stand, but you have.
I mean, you're right, you like, right when you want
to quit is when it happens, Especially when you've gone
this long and you know you've got something, you know
you're good. It's just like, how long can you hang
in there? Well?
Speaker 1 (54:28):
And I'm too far in to give it up now? Right?
That Haley Witter song ten years and twelve years into
a ten year in town, Yeah, that hit me. When
I heard that song, I was like, oh my god,
that's literally me. It's like what else am I going
to do.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Right, it's like too old, right, you commit it too much?
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yes, I mean every time I go home, my parents
are still like, well, Stamp still pay for you to
go to university if you want to get a real job.
I'm like, can you stop saying that?
Speaker 3 (54:52):
Like at this point, have you already got it in
your back pocket?
Speaker 1 (54:55):
It's yeah, I wonder if they'd still give me the scholarship.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Okay, So tell everyone what to be looking forward to you,
how to find you on tour, all your socials, all
the things.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
All the socials a L L I Ali Walker on
all the things. I've got pretty much. Songs popping out
every six weeks.
Speaker 3 (55:12):
Like Gredgen songs out now, first time Living. Everyone needs
to hear that.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
That is so good, beautiful song that makes me cry
the time I listen to it, because she definitely did it.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
Dush justice, It's you can feel it.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah, but I'm ready to crank it up. I got
two songs that were slow. My last two songs were slow.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
We got our feelings on already, feel like get back
to Creek vibes. Okay, okay, al I love it so much,
thank you for coming on.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
You were so wait I forgot to tell you, Oh
tell me that.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
I looked back at my podcasts, my Apple podcasts, and
I was because I've listened to your podcast forever.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yes, And the first one I listened to was twenty sixteen,
that's when I started. Yeah, the first one was Cody
Allen and Stormy Warming.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Story Story Warren. Yeah, that was my first year starting
podcast that I.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Actually listened to it like at that time, So heck, yeah,
when I was driving to my restaurant job, wanting to
do this for a living, I was listening to you.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
Well, thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
That makes me feel so good because sometimes you're just like,
I mean, I feel that way podcasting.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
Sometimes I'm like everyone else, I'm just gonna quit.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
I mean, I know people are listening, but I'm also like,
I just yes, it's one artist.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Because I love biographies and listening to people's story.
Speaker 3 (56:22):
Me too, that's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
If you're the one facilitating that, that can inspire lots
of people. I totally agree.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
I love to hear people's story because it's like your story.
It's like, Okay, you had.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Fifteen fourteen years of nothing, like wanting to give up,
and then it's like all of a sudden, you meet
one person, everything changes. So you've set yourself up for success.
Just one door had to open, yes, but it's having
the patience to get to that one door, you know,
and believing that it's gonna come. And it's so easy
to give up. And it's especially in this industry.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
If you just like work harder than everybody else and
you last longer, it's bound to happen.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah, you know what Rod Esseg, who I don't know
if he's still the head of caa booking agency, he
told me this a long time ago. But he's like,
if you are talented and you don't quit, you what
you're saying, It will work out for you somehow eventually,
because it has to.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
It has to collide, something has to go right, and
then Shandy universe is going to reward you, agree, or
the hard work you put in, which.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Leads me to my last question, leave your light, which
is just some inspiration.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
What do you want people to know to leave them inspired?
Speaker 1 (57:24):
I think just what we just said, like, if you
don't give up, and you put in the hard work,
and you believe in yourself, and you have at least
one other person that can pick you up when you're down.
You can make it happen.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Amen, Ali Walker, thank you so much for coming on
these is so fun. Love it, Okay, bye bye
Host
Caroline Hobby
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