In honor of the release of a new Marvel movie, Mike talks about what he thinks are the 5 most important films in Superhero hero history. These are not Mike’s favorites but what he believes are the most significant movies to the development and history of the genre. In the Movie Review, Mike gives his thoughts on Captain America: Brave New World. How it’s the first time Anthony Mackie has led a movie, why the trailer led us all astray, are we too overly critical of the MCU and the age-old question: Is Marvel back or dead? In the Trailer Park, Mike talks about the trailer for "Jurassic World Rebirth" starring Scarlett Johansson who leads a team of skilled operatives to the most dangerous place on Earth, an island research facility for the original Jurassic Park. This movie hits theaters July 2nd.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I
am your host Movie Mike. We have a new Marvel
movie out this week, so in honor of that, I
want to tell you, in my opinion, what I think
are the five most important superhero films of all time.
In the movie review, we'll be talked about that Marvel movie,
Captain America, Brave New World? Is Marvel back? Is Marvel
taking a backstep? Is this just the filler movie? Are
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we gonna get to something great soon? We'll talk about that.
And in the trailer park we'll break down Jurassic Park
Rebirth and why I both love and hate this trailer.
Thank you for being here, Thank you for being subscribed.
Shout out to the Monday Morning Movie crew. Love that
you subscribed. If you listen on release day, which is
Monday Extra, shout out to you. And now let's talk
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movies from the Nashville Podcast Network and this is Movie
Mike Movie Podcast. I came up with a list of
what I think are the five most important films in
superhero history. These are not my five favorite, they're what
I believe to be the most important to the development
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and history of the genre. And I feel that these
movies are the stepping stones that paved the way. Without
these movies, we would not be where we are today.
They not only influenced the comic book genre, but also
I feel most of these influence movies as a whole
in creating big spectacles and blockbusters. So let's get right
into this list at number one, going back to nineteen
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eighty nine. I'm gonna do these in order, by the way,
so in order that they came out in order of
their history. To get to one, you got to get
to the other. These I feel are the most influential,
and number one is Batman nineteen eighty nine. Why I
believe this is the first most important superhero film is
it created a new public perception of Batman and it
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legitimized the genre and took Batman from being a comedic
character to a greedy character even by nineteen eighty standards.
And this was a big deal, more so than Superman
that came the decade before it. This is the one
that I feel, without its success would not have led
to any other superhero movie being made. Before this, Batman
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hadn't been a gritty character. And even if you look
at nineteen eighty nine. Now it's not as gritty as
what we know to be now as a gritty Batman,
But at the time it was revolutionary because everybody associated
Batman with Adam West's depiction of him, which was great
at the time, but that show was a comedy. It
made him really zany. It made the fight scenes overly
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cheesy with the bam zap Powell. It made Robin a
very just one dimensional character. And for the longest time
this movie was trying to be made in this way.
Michael Uson, who is somebody who was fighting for this.
He had the rights to Batman for a decade, maybe
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even longer than a decade, and he was fighting for
the depiction of the character that he knew was out there.
He was a fan of Batman from when he was
a kid, and he was the person whenever that TV
show debuted he was like, Oh no, this is wrong,
this is bad, this is not the Batman I love.
So he bought the rights for such a little amount
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and kept trying to find producers, kept trying to get
a movie like this Green Wit, And it wasn't until
nineteen eighty nine's Batman that his love of Batman, his
complete Nerdom actually came to life and he was able
to do it. So he was this driving force trying
to bring this darker, more serious version of the character
to life. And then you combine that with Tim Burton
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and we finally got it, and it changed the public
perspective of not only what Batman could be, but what
superhero movies could be as a whole. Now, even in
nineteen eighty nine, these movies were still being geared towards kids,
with the idea of being you put out a movie
and then you sell a bunch of merchandise, which has
always been the model. Star Wars was the one who
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really made that a thing, like, oh, you put out
the movie, then you sell a buttload of toys. That
was the model. So we weren't there quite yet, but
it did show that you can make something for kids
because it is a superhero movie, but also that would
appeal to the older audience. If you look at this
one at times, it doesn't feel like a kid's movie.
This movie moved on to Batman Returns, and that one
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you had a public outcry from parents saying, this is
not a kid's movie. Whatsoever. You have penguin biting at
people's noses causing them to be all bloody, and there
was a big problem with that. But the reason I
believe that this movie was so important is because it
was the first movie to really usher in this new
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era of superhero film and say, a movie like this
can be made and you can change what everybody believes
these characters to be. And you're gonna see this theme
throughout my list because whenever you set a standard, everybody
starts following that and then it almost takes somebody else
to break that mold yet again to re revolutionize the genre.
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But this movie did that. It gave us not only
the gritty hero, but also the gritty villain. Jack Nicholson
set the standard for creating a villain like this made
everybody who played the Joker after him have some really
big shoes to fill. So at number one, I have
Batman nineteen eighty nine. At number two, it would come
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almost ten years after this in nineteen ninety eight. My
next most important superhero film of all time is Blade
from nineteen ninety eight. Why this movie is so important
one I feel it's underappreciated, it's underrated, and how revolutionary
this movie was and how important it was for Marvel's success.
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It proved that you could make a superhero movie a
comic book character for adults. Because this movie is R rated,
it's bloody, it's violent, and it's cool. And at the time,
Blade wasn't even a popular character were in the comic books.
Even after this movie came out, his comics still struggled
and they readapted them to fit the movie character. More so,
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he wasn't even a top tier character, not even the
second stream character. Even now, the character of Blade isn't
as popular as all these other Marvel characters, and you
look at their model now, and this is what later
Marvel would bank on because there had been attempts to
make other character movies before this be successful. You had
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pretty much made for TV movie with Captain America Spider Man,
and those just never quite worked out. This was the
first successful Marvel movie ever. It was the second one
because before this, back in nineteen eighty six, they made
a Howard the Duck movie. I don't know why they
decided to go with Howard the Duck first, but that
movie was awful, terrible, and it was a long time
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until Marvel had success. So this movie was important, not
only for Marvel because without its success, it was right
there at the brink of bankert It had been fighting
bankruptcy for so long because they just didn't have a
successful movie. This was their first big hit, their first
big taste of success, and it also inspired and was
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the stepping stone for a lot of R rated movies
to come. If there wasn't Blade, we would have never
got Deadpool, we would have never got Logan, we would
have never got other comic book movies outside of Marvel,
like Watchmen and kick Ass or even Suicide Squad. All
of those movies' success had to come from proving that
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you could make an R rated superhero movie, even more
so that you could do it without a popular character. Now,
at the time, Wesley Snipes was a very popular actor,
so that brought in some fans. Vampires in the nineties
were all so hot as well, so that helped. And
I believe this is what Marvel started to do whenever
they sold all the rights to their main characters to
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Sony and to Fox, and later when they're trying to
build things, they decided, okay, okay, well we can't use
our most popular characters. Let's build a team of all
of our second string and third stringers and see if
we can make something out of this, and that proved
to be successful, So it's working with what you have
and also ahead of its time because you had a
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black lead in this movie in a superhero film. He
was the first successful black superhero in mainstream cinema. Paved
the way for Black Panther. And I know X Men
was already in development that would come out in the
year two thousand, but if it wasn't for the success
of Blade, that wouldn't have set up the X Men.
And it made one hundred and thirty one million dollars
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worldwide on a forty five million dollars budget, and Wesley
Snipe said it best in Dead Pull and Wolverine. There
will only be one Blade, so hopefully they still bring
this character back to life at number two from nineteen
ninety eight, I have Blade at number three. We're moving
forward just about four years. I have two thousand and
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two's Spider Man. And this movie solidified what Blade started
in nineteen ninety eight, dropping a flag into the modern
era and saying superhero films are here to be a thing.
Without the success of this movie, Marvel would have fallen off.
It was also the first big budget superhero movie. It
cost one hundred and thirty nine million dollars to make,
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which was a lot of money at the time to
spend on any blockbuster movie, let alone a superhero movie.
But it went on to make eight hundred and twenty
one million dollars at the box office. It made a
star of Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunns, who was already a
star made or an even bigger star, and then it
brought Willem to foe in the mix as one of
the best villains of the modern era in the two thousands.
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It also was the first Marvel movie to be nominated
for an oscar. It got a nomination for Sound and
Visual Effects, which these visual effects were cutting edge at
the time and a big problem with every Spider Man
movie and TV show that was attempted to be made
before this is they never got the web swinging downright.
And if you don't get that downright, if it looks
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awkward for Spider Man to be climbing and scaling buildings,
it just doesn't work. But Sam Raimi got it down
in this one, so it looked great. It also brought
the comics to life in a way that no other
superhero movie had done before this, because with Batman and
Blade being more dark and gritty, and of course you
had the other not so great Batman movies of the
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nineties happening before this, but it was bright and colorful
and it really popped. And not only did you have
the great action and the great web swinging, you had
a true love story and a very relatable character, which
is something we hadn't had before this, and it's something
that Spider Man has always been that he has been
the most relatable character. Somebody who is just a nerd,
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doesn't have things go his way, can't get the girl.
You truly believe in this story and you're truly right
there with him all throughout. Spider Man one as one
of the best kissing scenes in cinema of all time,
and even looking past my bias of Spider Man being
my favorite character, I feel this was the catalyst to
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create that superhero film explosion of the two thousands. It
laid the groundwork for not only the MCU which would
come later, of course, but also for the X Men
series that was already happening at the time. It's also
obviously important for laying the groundwork for all the Spider
Man movies to come. Which the reason we've had so
many Spider Man movies is because of the film rights.
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They have to make a movie in a certain amount
of time or else they have to surrender the film rights.
So that is why we have so many projects coming
out at any given time. But we've had Toby maguire
Spider Man, Andrew Garfield's Tom holland Miles Morales on the
animated side, But neither of those would have existed if
it wouldn't have been for the success of this movie
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that was also so relevant in pop culture. You had
the music videos connection. It was a big deal to
get your song into a Spider Man movie. So that
is why I have it at number three. At number four,
I could have gone a couple of different ways here,
and I had to think about the two thousands as
a whole and which movie really was the most important.
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So I'm going with two thousand and fives. Batman begins,
and it's again going back to what I was stating earlier.
It's all about breaking the mold. And even back in
the two thousands, we started to get into a little
bit of a formula when it came to what we
thought about superhero movies as an audience, and Batman Begins
totally broke the mold, and it was a bit of
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a risk. Yeah, Christopher Nolan, who was relatively unknown as
a director at the time. He had done movies like
Memento and Insomnia, which were both the great movies, but
him taking on a Batman movie was an interesting choice.
And you have to think about the fall off of
Batman in the late nineties with movies like Batman and
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Robin Batman forever. When you think about these movies, I
enjoyed them as a kid. I wasn't thinking about plot holes,
thinking about cheesy things that the older critics at the
time I feel would point out and rip these movies
to shreds. To me, I still enjoyed these movies, But
when you look at how they kind of fit in
with all the other ones. They were fun, they were colorful,
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they were for the most part, comic book accurate, at
least when it came to the costume design. I think
overall it was the plot of these movies that maybe
make them not the most rewatchable. Maybe they got a
little bit too campy and goofy, which was kind of
reverting what Batman was. And now we just keep getting
darker and darker and darker. So it's all sick, little baby.
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But when Batman Begins came along, it saved Batman, changed
his perception yet again, and it introduced this new realm
of realism which all the other superhero movies of the
two thousands didn't really have. They were still very fantastical,
still not really say in reality, you didn't really have
that base level crime. You were always fighting still over
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the top villains with very supernatural powers. But then comes
Batman Begins, and suddenly the crime feels a little bit
more real. When you think of these villains, you think
they are actually people that could exist in some world.
Even though it is Gotham, it still feels like New
York City, it feels like Chicago, it feels like Pittsburgh.
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Ushering in of what DC as a whole would try
to hold on to. This movie walked so the Dark
Knight could run. Because I remember when this movie came out,
I didn't entirely love it. I thought it was a
little bit boring. I was fourteen years old at the time,
and I didn't fully get it. It felt so different
to me. I was like, what do you mean. These
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characters aren't colorful and they're not running around causing a muck,
And it took a little bit for me to appreciate
Batman Begins. The Dark Knight I loved instantly in two
thousand and eight. But if it wasn't for the success
of Batman Begins laying that groundwork and changing the perception,
that movie wouldn't have been as successful. You couldn't have
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started with The Dark Knight. You had to have this
one to usher it in and to set it up,
and it began what other movies would try to emulate,
where if you take out all the superhero elements at
its core, it is still a good movie. Batman Begins
did that. The Dark Knight was an even better example
of that. But if you peel away the fact that
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he's Batman and you just look at the story and
the characters, that on its own is a recipe for
a great movie. And it started to change the way
yet again that we thought about superhero movies, where this
was the first time that it didn't feel at all
that these movies were made for kids. It started to
become that you thought about the kid back in nineteen
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eighty nine who watched that movie as a kid now
is much older and you kind of age with your fan.
This was the first time you really had that, and
now that's something we see happening a lot more. It
also set the new standard for playing Batman, which before
this it was kind of like, all right, you get
the best looking actor that you can find and you
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throw them in the Batman suit. Now you really had
to have acting chops. You couldn't just be Val Kilmer
or George Clooney to give a very sometimes flat performance.
Just because of your name doesn't mean you have the
right to wear that suit. Christian Bale is a top
tier actor, a method actor, a dude who goes to
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extreme links to be the characters that he portrays on
the big screen, and he gave that to Batman. Was
he the best overall Batman? No? Was he the best
Bruce Wayne? I think so. Much like Jack Nicholson did
with The Joker, Christian Bale did that with the character
of Bruce Wayne. This movie is important because you start
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looking at the biggest superhero movies to fail. A lot
of those came on the DC side. A lot of
those would still come from the DC side, But when
it came to anything Christopher Nolan touched and later anything
that James Gun touched on the DC side, those proved
to be successful. And I think all of the successes
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of those movies comes back and lands into the hands
of Batman begins. That's why I have it at number four,
and finally we arrive at number five. I'm going back
to two thousand and eight. It is Ironman. This movie
started the MCU. If Ironman wasn't successful, the entire MCU
just wouldn't have happened. And again, Marvel was not yet
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what it is today at the time that Ironman came out.
But Kevin Figy had this plan, Let's start making these
movies that all start to interconnect. You create this synergy
among your films, and eventually we are going to build
up to the Avengers, which is something you said early
on at a comic con. He's like, you know, there's
a possibility we can make the Avengers. And that was
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before there was any success of any of these Marvel movies,
which they were only working with the rights of the
characters they had left. Of course, we were talking about
the success of the Spider Man movies. Sony owned those rights,
they couldn't do anything with Spider Man. Fox owned the
rights to X Men the Fantastic Four, So this was
them trying to build their own studio. And even these
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early films weren't distributed by Marvel. They had partnerships with
Paramount and Universal Pictures before they were the Marvel we
know today. And it was this movie that laid the
groundwork for the entire phase. One you had Ironman. Then
you had The Incredible Hulk, which didn't do as well
as they wanted to. The Incredible Hulk as a whole
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on the big screen just hasn't been well received, and
I don't understand it. He is one of my top
five Marvel characters. And the fact that he doesn't have
a film that truly defines him that people love, oh,
that hurts me and my soul. But then you had
Iron Man two, so Captain America, the First Avenger, all
leading up to The Avengers in twenty twelve. But if
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it wouldn't have been for the success of this movie,
none of that stuff would have mattered. This was the
movie that kickstarted a multi billion dollar success of the mcu.
Ironman had a budget of one hundred and forty million
dollars went on to make five hundred and eighty five
million dollars worldwide, which was a lot of money. Wasn't
quite what we know today to be the standard of
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a billion dollars. But what led to the success of
that the charisma of Robert Downey Junior as iron Man,
because before him, iron Man wasn't that beloved of a character. Again,
it is Marvel dipping back into the second stringers. If
you look at the sale of Ironman comics before this,
it wasn't like he was a bestseller overall. Tony Stark
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wasn't seen as the best guy on his own. But
then you have Robert Downey Junior playing them. That brings
a whole new life to the character. It makes them
more relatable. Of course, it gives them that smugness that
we all grew to love him. But it truly defined
the character unlike anything we had seen before, much like
Wesley Snipes did with Blade back in nineteen ninety eight.
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You see a theme here how important casting is. It
could have been Tom Cruise, which was rumored to have
been the person who was gonna be playing iron Man.
It all comes down to who you pick on these roles,
and if you look at some of the successful and
unsuccessful superhero movies in time, a lot of times it
comes down to casting. You could say Robert Downey Junior
was one of the most successful casting stories of all time,
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and people had doubts about him. He had gone through
a lot of stuff, a lot of legal troubles leading
up to this that it was a bit of a
risk just to pick him to be Tony Stark. And
again in two thousand and eight, Marvel was still struggling.
They were working with a loan that they would get
to make these movies, which is how the first phase
of the MCU was funded, and they were just trying
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to stay afloat. They were clawing, just trying to have
something that would resonate with fans. And finally we had
that with iron Man. And it still wasn't a golden
paved road from here because they still had to set
up all these movies to lead up to The Avengers.
And even though Ironman did really well and was successful,
it didn't instantly make every Marvel movie you hit. I
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would say it wasn't until the Avengers came out that
people really took notice of everything and sometimes went back
and rewatched those movies for the first time, and that
is really what I feel started it. But you wouldn't
have had that if it wouldn't have been for the
success of Iron Man, who was essentially the mascot for
Marvel all the way leading up to Endgame. If it
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wouldn't have been for Tony Stark, a lot of those
movies wouldn't have been as successful. And it was this
movie that put the idea into everybody else's heads, not
just DC but anybody with ip like this, that you
got to create your own cinematic universe. You have to
have why not these movies that interconnect, because the great
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business model if you can get one person to see
one movie and then also see all these other three
four five movies leading up to another one, that is
how you create a very profitable franchise. So not only
did it impact comic book movies, but it impacted movies
like Fast and the Furious, all the teen dystopian novels
adaptations to come into twenty tens, which you also had
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Harry Potter. Obviously, before this Twilight was happening around the
same time, but this proved how successful that could be.
And even now with Robert Downey Junior coming back as
Doctor Doom, the influence of this movie continues to this day.
That is why I have it at number five. A
couple honorable mentions. One I mentioned at the very beginning
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of this episode. Superman nineteen seventy eight. Some would say
this movie created the mold. Did it really create the mold?
Or was it just the first movie? And maybe it's
because I've just never been the biggest fan of the
Superman character. He has always felt like quote unquote generic
superhero to me, the one everybody knows. He's a little
two boy, scoaled, he fly, he does all these noble things,
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but he doesn't have any flaws. That's why I've always
been drawn to the Marvel characters who do have flaws,
who feel more like real humans that happened to have superpowers.
Superman just always felt too polish to me. And the
movies of the seventies and all the sequels that came
were a little bit ahead of my time, and they
are great for what they are. But when it comes
to what I enjoy about superhero characters, what I enjoy
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about my comic book films. It just isn't in the
dna of those first movies, And I feel that if
those movies wouldn't have happened, we still could have had
Batman nineteen eighty nine and got to where we are
today because Superman came out in seventy eight and nothing
else really significant came out until Batman nineteen eighty nine.
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So in a way, did that movie actually hurt comic
book films? Was it groundbreaking at the time to see
Superman fly? Yeah? Was it a serious, compelling and commercially
successful movie. Yeah, But I still think we could have
got to where we are today without that movie. Someone
else just would have been first. First. Other honorable mention
was one I just touched on was The Avengers. The
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idea of synergy. It made The Avengers a household name,
leading to other movie franchises wanting to create a team
of heroes, whether it be DC or whether it be
anybody else. It's that idea of making a team. The
Avengers was Marvel's first billion dollar movie. You had all
the sequels leading up to Endgame, which is the highest
grossing Marvel movie. My only thing with The Avengers is
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it was a great run from twenty twelve to twenty nineteen.
But if you think about Marvel now and what they
continue to chase, is it also a bad thing what
they did because they had so much success with creating
all of these crossovers, all of these movies that you
have to watch, is it now kind of a hard
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thing to replicate and still be chasing because it was
so successful and now I feel audiences have kind of
grown tired of that. You don't have people as invested
in wanting to watch every single Marvel movie, and when
they do continue to connect, it feels like everybody has
to do a lot of homework in order to do so.
Even hearing that now with the new Captain America movie
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of people who didn't watch the TV show and are
a little bit lost. So by creating something so great
that they want to hold on to, is that more
now detrimental to their health? Should we get rid of
that altogether, throw that out the window and just create
singular movies? Will that model even work anymore? So? While
I do feel it is an important movie, I think
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even without the Avengers we could have still had successful
singular movies. The movie Landscape would have looked much different,
maybe for the best or maybe for the worst. Maybe
if we didn't have The Avengers, all the other sequels
that followed, if they didn't interconnect, wouldn't have worked. Maybe
it's just me looking back on history now and what
everything continues to be that I think, oh man, maybe
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it was good while it lasted, but now it's hurting
us a little bit more than it should. So that
is my list, my opinion. If you have a different
opinion on one that should have been included, one that
shouldn't have been on this list, let me know. Hit
me up on socials at Mike Destro or you can
always email me Moviemike d at gmail dot com. Let's
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get into it now. A spoiler free movie review of
Captain America Brave New World. I feel like Jim Brewer's
character in Half Baked, where he's like, I'm not gonna
do what everybody thinks I'm gonna do. I'm not gonna
freak out with any Marvel movie. The hate is gonna
be real right now. And I try to avoid any
other reviews going into any movie just because I don't
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want to be influenced with this. When it was hard
to do. It was everywhere, and whenever a Marvel movie
comes out now, or even a DC movie, any superhero movie,
unless it's top tier, it's gonna get ripped to shreds.
And you always have to kind of look through all
the things that people are saying and are people really
mad because the movie is bad or are people just
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looking for that hate for that rage clickbait. I'm here
to tell you I am not in any way good
a rage bait. In this review. I'm gonna give you
my fair, honest opinion as a Marvel fan. If you're
watching on YouTube, you can see behind me all of
the influence I have with every review that I do.
I have an Incredible Hulk comic right next to me.
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I have the first appearance of Wolverine in a whole
comic right here behind me. I'm a huge fan of
the Incredible Hulk, and his portrayal on the big screen
just hasn't been up to expectation. And this movie was
using a lot of the Red Hulk and its marketing.
If you look at the poster, the first teaser we
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got is the Red Hulk hand holding the Captain America shield.
Just now, I just got home from the gym after
watching this movie, and I'm still seeing the trailer and
that's all embedded in there. It is Harrison Ford turning
into the Red Hulk fighting Sam Wilson, and this is
what that is. It is Sam Wilson's introduction as a
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lead in the MCU going into this. I love what
Anthony Mackie had to say in the press tour on
a red carpet. Somebody asked him and he said, this
feels amazing to me because it is the first time
audiences are going to see my movie, not just his
first movie in the MCU, but him as an actor.
That is a big deal. As I was rooting for
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Anthony Mackie, as I was rooting for the Incredible Hulk
Red Hulk in this there were a lot of problems.
There were a lot of things that this movie drew
influence from and drew inspiration from. That was kind of
like picking off the good pieces of something you burned
in the oven, like, oh no, I could still manage it.
I could still make a meal out of this. Let
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me pick off some things from two thousand and eighth
Incredible Holk, which I love, but a lot of people
hate that movie. I will defend that movie as being
a great Marvel movie, But I don't think you should
be going back to that movie to pick apart the
pieces from it to sell your new Captain America. That's
what they did. You have Thunderbolt Ross from that movie.
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Now the actor who played him in that original movie
has passed away, so they recast them with Harrison Ford.
There's a lot of disconnect there because in order to
get his whole story arc, you have to know that movie.
Otherwise they don't really do a good job in selling
you what is going on with his character. And not
only that, they go to one of the worst Marvel
movies of all time, I would say the worst ever,
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The Eternals, and they pick apart the little piece that
we were all asking about the end of the Eternals.
This it's like this big white thing in the middle
of the ocean, and then we haven't talked about it since.
You know what, Let's pull apart that little bird piece
and put it in this movie. And what is going
on here? It is still Sam Wilson struggling with can
I be Captain America without have taken the serum Do
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I have what it takes? The themes we already kind
of discussed and went over in the Disney Plus show
are still at the forefront of this movie, which I
found to be weird. We've already been there. I just
want to see you being Captain America. I don't want
to see you questioning it anymore. Like, just put on
the suit and do the thing, because that is a
hero we need. The other really hard part about getting
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over the marketing of this movie. In that trailer, it
is Thunderbolt Ross telling them I want you to rebuild
the Avengers, and he's like, all right, let's rebuild the Avengers.
It's supposed to be them working together. Then something goes
down where his inner circle has been compromised, and all
of a sudden, somebody tries to kill the president, and
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now he doesn't see eye to eye with Captain America
anymore so doing the Captain America thing. He wants to
do what is right. Even though the US government doesn't
want him a part of this. He is still going
to lead this investigation and try to figure out who
was pulling the strings here, who was behind this attack,
and who is trying to stop Thunderbolt Ross's plan of
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signing this treaty to make them look like a good president.
That is essentially the plot of this movie. I won't
get into any other details because I don't want to
reveal too much about what exactly happens. But there was
so little action in this movie that it made it
hard to watch. And not only that the action there was,
it was very slow. The choreography just isn't there. The
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Captain America movies, out of all the MCU movies, always
had the best action. That was their bread and butter,
Quick fast paced action, amazing fights, shootouts, chases. That is
what I went to Captain America for. Think back to
Chris Evans running barefoot down the street. Those are the
moments I think about. Not only were they great superhero movies,
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but they were great crime thrillers. And the biggest problem
I had with Brave New World is it's just uninteresting.
It doesn't get your heart rate up. There's no Marvel magic.
It's not a bad movie, it's just why is this
happening right now? Why are we trying to rehash all
this old stuff? And why don't I believe in Sam
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Wilson as a superhero? And I found myself to be
entertained for the most part, but nothing really exciting happened.
And when you think about it, was like the Captain
America Shield is a bigger star than Anthony Mackie is
right now as Captain America, so much so that I
found myself just questioning all these minor details because of
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how uninteresting the plotline was. It was not only cliched
for a Marvel movie, it was just riddled with cliches
from every Spice thriller that has come out in the
last five years, and all of the superhero elements were
just kind of sprinkled in there and everything that they
teased and the trailer, all the marketing. Not only was
that pushed all the way to the third act, a
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lot of it was the last ten minutes before the
ten minute epilogue. That was it. That's all you got.
So it kind of felt like a bait and switch,
and it was Marvel to me, felt like they knew
what they had, They knew they didn't have a whole lot,
so let's sell what is coming at the end of
it and just get the butts into seats, and that's
what they did. They made one hundred million dollars over
President's Day weekend, They got the butts in the seats.
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They will break even on this movie probably and it
will do what it needs to do to advance the
MCU right now. But it's just leaving a lot of
people feeling ugh, kind of underwhelmed, and I think that
is what has led to such poor reviews from audiences. Again,
it's not that it's all out terrible, it's just that
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we've come to expect a lot from the MCU. We've
come to expect a nice tailored suit, and what we
got out of this movie was something straight off the
racket Zaras And if we have to keep going back
talking about that, the visual effects aren't there, What are
we doing here? This movie costs two hundred million plus.
But God'szilla minus one, with the budget of about fifteen
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million dollars had much better action sequences at sea than
this movie did. It was more believable. So they need
to just find a different way to make these movies
look more appealing. That should be basic, be day one. Things.
We should not be questioning a movie with this budget
of it having CGI anymore. And there was a scene
in particular that happened towards the end of the movie
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where you see Harrison Ford and you see Sam Wilson
standing there and it just looked like a big green
or blue screen that they were looking at. There was
it was like two dimensional, no depth whatsoever, and it
makes the scenes just not connect. There's nothing there. You
don't get a performance out of them because they're just
obviously standing in front of this blue or green screen
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and there's no connection. There's no emotion, and a movie
like this needs that. I never felt invested in Sam's story.
I never believed him as Captain America. At times, I
felt I could probably beat him up, and I can't
beat up many people. I was so uninterested with the plot.
At a certain point, I found myself questioning what shoes
he was wearing. I was so upset about the shoes
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Sam Wilson was wearing that I was like Captain America.
I wouldn't wear those shoes, those elevated, cool, expensive sneakers
like he would wear those. He would always be ready
to go have to chase somebody down if we needed to.
He couldn't do that in that bomber jacket and those shoes.
It is unbelievable to me, and his character is so
reliant on the technology of the suit. And maybe that's
another thing I'm kind of getting tired of in the
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MCU is the stark influence that all the suits have
this technology where they don't have superpowers, they have super technology.
All the people with superpowers have kind of gone on.
We don't have those people anymore. It almost feels like
all the seniors have graduated and now we're left with
that freshman class that are still trying to push this narrative.
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But they're still talking about their acts, still talking about
the person who saved the world and questioning whether or
not they can do that. Just forget about your ex
stop talking about them, and move on and show me
why you can save the world. The question comes down
to do you need superpowers to be a hero. That
is what this movie is trying to say. Did we
need a two hour movie to say that. I don't
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think so. I think we got that in the series
before this. There's nothing really brave. There's nothing new about
Brave New World. It just feels like a bunch of
rehashed plotlines slapped together. At times, it feels like I
was watching one of the parody movies that they do
on the Boys, the TV show. Whenever they're making their
superhero movies, it kind of felt like watching one of those.
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We still have a lot of villain problems. This entire
movie just kind of felt like a two hour post
credit scene. If you look at kind of the pattern
that we have in the MCU, it's the MCU is
back dead, Pull a Wolverine. Next movie comes out, Brave
New World. Ah, the MCU is dead. But then before this,
the trailer for Fantastic four played, and we're gonna say
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the same thing again. The M two was back. So
maybe they're just doing this pattern of good movie, mediocre movie.
Good movie, mediocre movie. And I think it's just that
my standards and all of our standards have become so
high and expecting every movie to be great, expecting every
movie to be the level of The Avengers. With all
that said, again, I was entertained enough, but I was
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also irritated a little bit at what this movie could
have been. Am I excited to see more of Captain America?
Not really, not really at all. It was more of
a Thunderbolt Ross movie than it was a Captain America movie.
I think if they can get that down right, give
Sam some confidence. Now, maybe they could do it in
a second movie before Captain America Brave New World. I
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give it three out of five shields. It's time to
head down to movie Mike trailer, Paul, Is it possible
to like something even though you know it's not gonna
be that good? Now, that's kind of how I feel
about Jurassic World rebirth. We've all been waiting for a
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glimpse of this. There have been a lot of rumors
about Jurassic World and it was gonna be R rated.
It's not R rated. After seeing this trailer, though, I
kind of wish it was R rated because the weird
thing about Jurassic World is this feel like a reboot
of the reboot, which we had the reboot with Jurassic
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World back in twenty fifteen with Chris Pratt. It was
a reboot of the original Jurassic Park that we grew
up with, one of the best, not only sci fi
movies of all time, one of the best movies of
the nineties, spawned a fantastic franchise that got rebooted in
twenty fifteen, So a long time in between the last
Jurassic Park movie from that franchise until the end, it
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felt like very big and impactful. But now, about ten
years after they rebooted it the first time in twenty fifteen,
twenty twenty five, we're getting another reboot. And the thing
I feel about this trailer after watching it is they
are trying to make it seem so different but also
so connected to that one and to the original one,
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that they are almost trying too hard. I almost feel
that I hope that this movie didn't have any DNA
of what we've seen before it, and it's kind of
using that same formula. And while I'm looking at this
trailer and thinking, I don't think this is gonna be good,
I don't really think it's gonna be bad, but I
don't think it's gonna be the quote unquote rebirth that
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we were looking for that I think this franchise needed this.
I can feel that is already gonna be one of
those movies you go to the theaters to watch. It's fine,
probably appeals to a mass amount of people, which is
what they go for in these Jurassic Park movies now,
But I feel as soon as I leave that theater
and as soon as I record the review for that movie,
I'm not gonna think about it again. And that's a
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bit of a bummer. Now with Jurassic World dominion that
we just had most recently, that movie left a bad
taste in my mouth. And that movie banked on a
lot of nostalgia bringing back the original cast member at
least most of them, to say Okay, they're coming back.
That felt like an event, and that movie fell flat.
This movie feels like, Okay, we're getting rid of all
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those people, we're not connecting it anymore, but we're still
gonna have a little bit of remnants holding onto things
that I don't think then to hold on to anymore.
Let's move past it. I don't need to see the
Jurassic World banner anymore. I don't need references to all
the initial experiments, to Park gone wrong, all that. Just
get away from it entirely and bring us something new.
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And I feel that way on the one end, But
then on the other end, I watched this trailer. I'm
like dinosaurs running around and attacking people. That's awesome. So
just from a pure lover of summer blockbusters, this is
a movie I'm gonna go watch and I'm gonna enjoy it.
But as somebody who wants to see a franchise that
has kind of been beaten the crab at this point,
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Have something new, have something fresh. It's just not doing
it for me on all those levels. It's just not
quite what I was expecting it to be. It's almost
like when your parents say, I'm not mad at you,
I'm disappointed. That's kind of how I feel about this.
I'm not thinking this is gonna be an awful movie,
but I just wanted something different. It just kind of
feels like it's gonna be a very fast action type movie.
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That being said, get into the trailers talk about what
is going on here. Before I get into more of
my love and grievances with this trailer, here's just a
little bit of Jurassic World rebirth. This island was the
research facility for the original Jurassic Park. We need DNA
from the three biggest dinosaurs. Do we have to get
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a sample from an egg? These dinosaurs we're too dangerous
for the original park, The worst of the worst. We're
left here. Come doggad. So what it looks like is
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happening in this movie. You still have some dinosaurs that
are living in this very remote island. We've seen that
time and time again. And these creatures, specifically three different creatures,
hold the key to a potentially saving drug. So you
have Scarlett Johansson teaming up with some other scientists, some
other nerds. I love me a good scientist, nerd that
knows a lot about dinosaurs. That is why we love
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these movies. She takes them there and they have to
get not one, not two, but three samples from three
different dinosaurs. I can already see this movie playing out
on my head of like, the first one, oh man,
how are we gonna get this one? They get it.
Second one is a little bit harder, maybe they fail
a little bit, and they try again. Then they get
the second one, and then the third one is gonna
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be the Big Boy, the one we all come to see.
It's gonna be the t Rex, because how is it not?
Really the reason we go to these movies is to
see the raptors, which get referenced in this trailer that
I just played you, and we go for the t Rex,
the big logo on every single Jurassic Park movie. That
is the big Boy. That is the big one that draws,
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that is the star. That is the one we go
to to see. So. Scarlett Johansson plays a character named
Zora Bennett. She's a covert operations expert. Essentially, she is
black widow but for dinosaurs. You see her in this
trailer scaling mountains, telling them she can take them there
and can guarantee their safety. That is what she is
to this group of scientists. You'll say, have maherschel Ali.
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The problem I have after watching this trailer is the
dialogue feels so bad. It feels like I'm playing a
Jurassic Park video game and this is the dialogue, and
not even a modern video game. I'm talking about a
video game from the two thousands where their lips don't
quite match up with what they are saying. I'm talking
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about graphics where the guys are basically these big three
D polygons and there's not a lot going on there.
That is how I feel about this dialogue. It feels
very cheesy, formulaic, almost AI generated at times, so much
so I pull three examples of the three worst lines
of dialogue just from this trailer. Here is bad line
number one. Can you do ready tomorrow? I can guarantee
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your safety, I mean more or less, more or less
What is that I guarantee your safety more or less.
It's so tongue in cheek and like, ah, like if
your grandma on Facebook writing this dialogue, that's bad line
number one. Here's bad line number two. No one's dumb
enough to go where we're going, Like just by saying,
why do you need to say that? In the trailer,
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no one's dumb enough to go where we are going.
We're just the ragtag group of individuals go and chase
the dinosaurs. It just feels like they are over explaining everything.
And finally, here is bad line number three. They're helping
the mostazor defend territory, stalk hunt. None of what you
just said is good that line from Scarlett Johansson all
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over dialogue in this trailer, it feels very much what
people hate on superhero movies for being that type of humor.
They are one step away from saying, oh no, the
dinosaur's right behind me, isn't it so? Overall, when it
comes to the DNA of this movie, I just feel
like it has very weak bones. That being said, the
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movie itself, the way it looks and the way it's
shot in this trailer, I actually enjoy it feels like
a movie that demands the big screen in the summer. Again,
it's coming out on July second. Any Jurassic Park movie
just has that summer blockbuster feel to me. I still
get that vibe from this Jurassic Park movies now, to
me are starting to feel more like the Fast and
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the Furious movies. And maybe it's a universal thing. There
was a period of time where they were saying, it's
not out of the realm, the possibility that we could
combine these two franchises, and based upon the ending and
the dialogue I'm seeing in this trailer, I feel like
they're actually not too far off from that. It seemed
like a crazy idea at the time, but I'm kind
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of hoping for some bloodshed. I'm even at the point
where I'm kind of rooting for the dinosaurs take out
a few humans. There are moments, especially in Jurassic Park
Lost World, where the dinosaurs would actually kill humans that
those are the most memorable for me. Sometimes I root
for villains and movies when it comes to the Dress
Park movie, especially right now, I am rooting for the dinosaurs.
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Dinosaurs doing nothing wrong, They're just living their life. It's
the crazy scientists who brought them back to life. Now
they have to deal with it. But going back to
that dialogue of them even explaining that this is the
island that they sent all the dinosaurs that weren't cut
out to be in the theme parks, that really makes
no sense to me, because we're any of the dinosaurs
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that were in the theme park really supposed to be there,
because we all saw what happened. It all went to
hell in a handbasket. There was total mayhem. You shouldn't
have had a t rex in a theme park. That
animal species was not cut out to be in a
theme park. They're trying to make it seem like, oh,
we're gonna be really up against something we've never been
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up against before on this island because these are the
rejects on the rejects. All these dinosaurs are hardcore. I
do think the addition of the underwater dinosaurs is pretty cool.
Whenever they're in the boat towards the end of this
trailer and you see all of the dinosaurs swimming towards them,
that is a part where I'm like, how are they
going to get out of that one? Because those dinosaurs
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are massive and that boat looks so tiny and The
big question I asked myself is does this feel like
a billion dollar movie? Because pretty much every single Jurassic
Park movie has made a billion dollars. The first one
back in ninety three one point one billion with a
sixty three million dollar budget, which is astonishing. Jurassic Park
The Lost World didn't quite make it. I think people
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didn't give this movie a chance. Made six hundred and
eighteen million dollars. Then they kept going down. Jurassic Park
three three hundred and sixty nine. That's probably what they
stopped making these for a while. They stopped becoming as
profitable as that first one. But Jurassic World in twenty
fifteen one point sixty seven billion, We're back Baby Fallen
Kingdom one point three one billion. Even Dominions still crossed
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that one billion dollar mark, just barely, just barely, kind
of lipped across that finish line. But that was with
the budget of a hundred and eighty five million, And
if we're looking at the budget of Jurassic World Rebirth,
it is the most expensive one at two hundred and
sixty five million dollars. This trailer does not look like
a two hundred and sixty five million dollar budget movie,
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and it does not feel to me like it is
going to be a billion dollar movie. It looks like
it's gonna be fun, but it kind of looks like
it's gonna be forgettable. Doesn't scream to me like it's
gonna give audiences a reason to go back to the
theater to watch this, because there's not enough time that
it's passed to make people feel like, oh, this is
something new. It's gonna feel like a continuation of that.
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Even the name of it Jurassic World Rebirth, it still
has the world, which they kind of changed a little
bit from calling it a Jurassic Park to calling it
Jurassic World, making it feel bigger. Don't come back to
me until it's Jurassic World outer space. We just need
to go a step further, put them in space, or
even do a movie like Planet of the Apes, but
with dinosaurs, where the dinosaurs become sophistic catered and smart.
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They're speaking English to each other, and it is the
humans who are the minority. Could you imagine a dinosaur
like a raptor, capturing a human and then putting them
in an amusement park. That is the movie I want
to see. I want to see a human escaping the
park and then all the dinosaurs freak out, like the
human is loose, it's gonna kill us. It has opposable thumbs.
They grab that gun, put that gun down. Human. That
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is the movie I want to see. That would have
been Jurassic World Rebirth. But again, this movie is coming
out on July second. I'm still going to watch it.
I'm still gonna enjoy it, but I'm just not as
excited about it. And that was this week's edition of
Movie min Framer par and that is gonna do it
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for another episode here of the podcast. But before I go,
I gotta give my listeners shout out of the week
this week. I'm going over to tic Tac and it's
a comment from one of my last posts from last
week's episode, where Kelsey and I talked about Harry Potter.
I reranked all of the movies and we got into
a debate over a death in Harry Potter that I
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thought was overrated, and maybe I picked the one comment
that actually agreed with me, because man, people let me
have it online last week. So I'm shouting out Henry
Ochoa on TikTok, who said Dobby's death was way sadder
in my opinion, than Dumbledore exactly, Henry, That's what I
was saying, And later in that episode I did say
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that that is the death that affected me the most,
poor Dobby, because I feel like Dobby was good the
entire time. Dumbledore was always like, oh, I forgot to
tell you, Harry. Oh I forgot to tell you this, Harry.
That's right, I haven't told you. Dumbledore was withholding all
this information. Dumbledore kind of set up Harry Potter. So
maybe that's the reason why his death wasn't as impactful
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to me. I'd go Dobby and then I'd probably go
Snape after that, But still Dumbledore's death not that memorable.
If you missed that episode, just go back one in
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good movies and I will talk to you later.
Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I
am your host Movie Mike. We have a new Marvel
movie out this week, so in honor of that, I
want to tell you, in my opinion, what I think
are the five most important superhero films of all time.
In the movie review, we'll be talked about that Marvel movie,
Captain America, Brave New World? Is Marvel back? Is Marvel
taking a backstep? Is this just the filler movie? Are
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we gonna get to something great soon? We'll talk about that.
And in the trailer park we'll break down Jurassic Park
Rebirth and why I both love and hate this trailer.
Thank you for being here, Thank you for being subscribed.
Shout out to the Monday Morning Movie crew. Love that
you subscribed. If you listen on release day, which is
Monday Extra, shout out to you. And now let's talk
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movies from the Nashville Podcast Network and this is Movie
Mike Movie Podcast. I came up with a list of
what I think are the five most important films in
superhero history. These are not my five favorite, they're what
I believe to be the most important to the development
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and history of the genre. And I feel that these
movies are the stepping stones that paved the way. Without
these movies, we would not be where we are today.
They not only influenced the comic book genre, but also
I feel most of these influence movies as a whole
in creating big spectacles and blockbusters. So let's get right
into this list at number one, going back to nineteen
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eighty nine. I'm gonna do these in order, by the way,
so in order that they came out in order of
their history. To get to one, you got to get
to the other. These I feel are the most influential,
and number one is Batman nineteen eighty nine. Why I
believe this is the first most important superhero film is
it created a new public perception of Batman and it
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legitimized the genre and took Batman from being a comedic
character to a greedy character even by nineteen eighty standards.
And this was a big deal, more so than Superman
that came the decade before it. This is the one
that I feel, without its success would not have led
to any other superhero movie being made. Before this, Batman
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hadn't been a gritty character. And even if you look
at nineteen eighty nine. Now it's not as gritty as
what we know to be now as a gritty Batman,
But at the time it was revolutionary because everybody associated
Batman with Adam West's depiction of him, which was great
at the time, but that show was a comedy. It
made him really zany. It made the fight scenes overly
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cheesy with the bam zap Powell. It made Robin a
very just one dimensional character. And for the longest time
this movie was trying to be made in this way.
Michael Uson, who is somebody who was fighting for this.
He had the rights to Batman for a decade, maybe
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even longer than a decade, and he was fighting for
the depiction of the character that he knew was out there.
He was a fan of Batman from when he was
a kid, and he was the person whenever that TV
show debuted he was like, Oh no, this is wrong,
this is bad, this is not the Batman I love.
So he bought the rights for such a little amount
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and kept trying to find producers, kept trying to get
a movie like this Green Wit, And it wasn't until
nineteen eighty nine's Batman that his love of Batman, his
complete Nerdom actually came to life and he was able
to do it. So he was this driving force trying
to bring this darker, more serious version of the character
to life. And then you combine that with Tim Burton
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and we finally got it, and it changed the public
perspective of not only what Batman could be, but what
superhero movies could be as a whole. Now, even in
nineteen eighty nine, these movies were still being geared towards kids,
with the idea of being you put out a movie
and then you sell a bunch of merchandise, which has
always been the model. Star Wars was the one who
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really made that a thing, like, oh, you put out
the movie, then you sell a buttload of toys. That
was the model. So we weren't there quite yet, but
it did show that you can make something for kids
because it is a superhero movie, but also that would
appeal to the older audience. If you look at this
one at times, it doesn't feel like a kid's movie.
This movie moved on to Batman Returns, and that one
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you had a public outcry from parents saying, this is
not a kid's movie. Whatsoever. You have penguin biting at
people's noses causing them to be all bloody, and there
was a big problem with that. But the reason I
believe that this movie was so important is because it
was the first movie to really usher in this new
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era of superhero film and say, a movie like this
can be made and you can change what everybody believes
these characters to be. And you're gonna see this theme
throughout my list because whenever you set a standard, everybody
starts following that and then it almost takes somebody else
to break that mold yet again to re revolutionize the genre.
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But this movie did that. It gave us not only
the gritty hero, but also the gritty villain. Jack Nicholson
set the standard for creating a villain like this made
everybody who played the Joker after him have some really
big shoes to fill. So at number one, I have
Batman nineteen eighty nine. At number two, it would come
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almost ten years after this in nineteen ninety eight. My
next most important superhero film of all time is Blade
from nineteen ninety eight. Why this movie is so important
one I feel it's underappreciated, it's underrated, and how revolutionary
this movie was and how important it was for Marvel's success.
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It proved that you could make a superhero movie a
comic book character for adults. Because this movie is R rated,
it's bloody, it's violent, and it's cool. And at the time,
Blade wasn't even a popular character were in the comic books.
Even after this movie came out, his comics still struggled
and they readapted them to fit the movie character. More so,
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he wasn't even a top tier character, not even the
second stream character. Even now, the character of Blade isn't
as popular as all these other Marvel characters, and you
look at their model now, and this is what later
Marvel would bank on because there had been attempts to
make other character movies before this be successful. You had
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pretty much made for TV movie with Captain America Spider Man,
and those just never quite worked out. This was the
first successful Marvel movie ever. It was the second one
because before this, back in nineteen eighty six, they made
a Howard the Duck movie. I don't know why they
decided to go with Howard the Duck first, but that
movie was awful, terrible, and it was a long time
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until Marvel had success. So this movie was important, not
only for Marvel because without its success, it was right
there at the brink of bankert It had been fighting
bankruptcy for so long because they just didn't have a
successful movie. This was their first big hit, their first
big taste of success, and it also inspired and was
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the stepping stone for a lot of R rated movies
to come. If there wasn't Blade, we would have never
got Deadpool, we would have never got Logan, we would
have never got other comic book movies outside of Marvel,
like Watchmen and kick Ass or even Suicide Squad. All
of those movies' success had to come from proving that
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you could make an R rated superhero movie, even more
so that you could do it without a popular character. Now,
at the time, Wesley Snipes was a very popular actor,
so that brought in some fans. Vampires in the nineties
were all so hot as well, so that helped. And
I believe this is what Marvel started to do whenever
they sold all the rights to their main characters to
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Sony and to Fox, and later when they're trying to
build things, they decided, okay, okay, well we can't use
our most popular characters. Let's build a team of all
of our second string and third stringers and see if
we can make something out of this, and that proved
to be successful, So it's working with what you have
and also ahead of its time because you had a
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black lead in this movie in a superhero film. He
was the first successful black superhero in mainstream cinema. Paved
the way for Black Panther. And I know X Men
was already in development that would come out in the
year two thousand, but if it wasn't for the success
of Blade, that wouldn't have set up the X Men.
And it made one hundred and thirty one million dollars
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worldwide on a forty five million dollars budget, and Wesley
Snipe said it best in Dead Pull and Wolverine. There
will only be one Blade, so hopefully they still bring
this character back to life at number two from nineteen
ninety eight, I have Blade at number three. We're moving
forward just about four years. I have two thousand and
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two's Spider Man. And this movie solidified what Blade started
in nineteen ninety eight, dropping a flag into the modern
era and saying superhero films are here to be a thing.
Without the success of this movie, Marvel would have fallen off.
It was also the first big budget superhero movie. It
cost one hundred and thirty nine million dollars to make,
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which was a lot of money at the time to
spend on any blockbuster movie, let alone a superhero movie.
But it went on to make eight hundred and twenty
one million dollars at the box office. It made a
star of Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunns, who was already a
star made or an even bigger star, and then it
brought Willem to foe in the mix as one of
the best villains of the modern era in the two thousands.
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It also was the first Marvel movie to be nominated
for an oscar. It got a nomination for Sound and
Visual Effects, which these visual effects were cutting edge at
the time and a big problem with every Spider Man
movie and TV show that was attempted to be made
before this is they never got the web swinging downright.
And if you don't get that downright, if it looks
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awkward for Spider Man to be climbing and scaling buildings,
it just doesn't work. But Sam Raimi got it down
in this one, so it looked great. It also brought
the comics to life in a way that no other
superhero movie had done before this, because with Batman and
Blade being more dark and gritty, and of course you
had the other not so great Batman movies of the
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nineties happening before this, but it was bright and colorful
and it really popped. And not only did you have
the great action and the great web swinging, you had
a true love story and a very relatable character, which
is something we hadn't had before this, and it's something
that Spider Man has always been that he has been
the most relatable character. Somebody who is just a nerd,
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doesn't have things go his way, can't get the girl.
You truly believe in this story and you're truly right
there with him all throughout. Spider Man one as one
of the best kissing scenes in cinema of all time,
and even looking past my bias of Spider Man being
my favorite character, I feel this was the catalyst to
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create that superhero film explosion of the two thousands. It
laid the groundwork for not only the MCU which would
come later, of course, but also for the X Men
series that was already happening at the time. It's also
obviously important for laying the groundwork for all the Spider
Man movies to come. Which the reason we've had so
many Spider Man movies is because of the film rights.
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They have to make a movie in a certain amount
of time or else they have to surrender the film rights.
So that is why we have so many projects coming
out at any given time. But we've had Toby maguire
Spider Man, Andrew Garfield's Tom holland Miles Morales on the
animated side, But neither of those would have existed if
it wouldn't have been for the success of this movie
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that was also so relevant in pop culture. You had
the music videos connection. It was a big deal to
get your song into a Spider Man movie. So that
is why I have it at number three. At number four,
I could have gone a couple of different ways here,
and I had to think about the two thousands as
a whole and which movie really was the most important.
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So I'm going with two thousand and fives. Batman begins,
and it's again going back to what I was stating earlier.
It's all about breaking the mold. And even back in
the two thousands, we started to get into a little
bit of a formula when it came to what we
thought about superhero movies as an audience, and Batman Begins
totally broke the mold, and it was a bit of
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a risk. Yeah, Christopher Nolan, who was relatively unknown as
a director at the time. He had done movies like
Memento and Insomnia, which were both the great movies, but
him taking on a Batman movie was an interesting choice.
And you have to think about the fall off of
Batman in the late nineties with movies like Batman and
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Robin Batman forever. When you think about these movies, I
enjoyed them as a kid. I wasn't thinking about plot holes,
thinking about cheesy things that the older critics at the
time I feel would point out and rip these movies
to shreds. To me, I still enjoyed these movies, But
when you look at how they kind of fit in
with all the other ones. They were fun, they were colorful,
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they were for the most part, comic book accurate, at
least when it came to the costume design. I think
overall it was the plot of these movies that maybe
make them not the most rewatchable. Maybe they got a
little bit too campy and goofy, which was kind of
reverting what Batman was. And now we just keep getting
darker and darker and darker. So it's all sick, little baby.
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But when Batman Begins came along, it saved Batman, changed
his perception yet again, and it introduced this new realm
of realism which all the other superhero movies of the
two thousands didn't really have. They were still very fantastical,
still not really say in reality, you didn't really have
that base level crime. You were always fighting still over
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the top villains with very supernatural powers. But then comes
Batman Begins, and suddenly the crime feels a little bit
more real. When you think of these villains, you think
they are actually people that could exist in some world.
Even though it is Gotham, it still feels like New
York City, it feels like Chicago, it feels like Pittsburgh.
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Ushering in of what DC as a whole would try
to hold on to. This movie walked so the Dark
Knight could run. Because I remember when this movie came out,
I didn't entirely love it. I thought it was a
little bit boring. I was fourteen years old at the time,
and I didn't fully get it. It felt so different
to me. I was like, what do you mean. These
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characters aren't colorful and they're not running around causing a muck,
And it took a little bit for me to appreciate
Batman Begins. The Dark Knight I loved instantly in two
thousand and eight. But if it wasn't for the success
of Batman Begins laying that groundwork and changing the perception,
that movie wouldn't have been as successful. You couldn't have
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started with The Dark Knight. You had to have this
one to usher it in and to set it up,
and it began what other movies would try to emulate,
where if you take out all the superhero elements at
its core, it is still a good movie. Batman Begins
did that. The Dark Knight was an even better example
of that. But if you peel away the fact that
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he's Batman and you just look at the story and
the characters, that on its own is a recipe for
a great movie. And it started to change the way
yet again that we thought about superhero movies, where this
was the first time that it didn't feel at all
that these movies were made for kids. It started to
become that you thought about the kid back in nineteen
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eighty nine who watched that movie as a kid now
is much older and you kind of age with your fan.
This was the first time you really had that, and
now that's something we see happening a lot more. It
also set the new standard for playing Batman, which before
this it was kind of like, all right, you get
the best looking actor that you can find and you
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throw them in the Batman suit. Now you really had
to have acting chops. You couldn't just be Val Kilmer
or George Clooney to give a very sometimes flat performance.
Just because of your name doesn't mean you have the
right to wear that suit. Christian Bale is a top
tier actor, a method actor, a dude who goes to
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extreme links to be the characters that he portrays on
the big screen, and he gave that to Batman. Was
he the best overall Batman? No? Was he the best
Bruce Wayne? I think so. Much like Jack Nicholson did
with The Joker, Christian Bale did that with the character
of Bruce Wayne. This movie is important because you start
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looking at the biggest superhero movies to fail. A lot
of those came on the DC side. A lot of
those would still come from the DC side, But when
it came to anything Christopher Nolan touched and later anything
that James Gun touched on the DC side, those proved
to be successful. And I think all of the successes
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of those movies comes back and lands into the hands
of Batman begins. That's why I have it at number four,
and finally we arrive at number five. I'm going back
to two thousand and eight. It is Ironman. This movie
started the MCU. If Ironman wasn't successful, the entire MCU
just wouldn't have happened. And again, Marvel was not yet
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what it is today at the time that Ironman came out.
But Kevin Figy had this plan, Let's start making these
movies that all start to interconnect. You create this synergy
among your films, and eventually we are going to build
up to the Avengers, which is something you said early
on at a comic con. He's like, you know, there's
a possibility we can make the Avengers. And that was
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before there was any success of any of these Marvel movies,
which they were only working with the rights of the
characters they had left. Of course, we were talking about
the success of the Spider Man movies. Sony owned those rights,
they couldn't do anything with Spider Man. Fox owned the
rights to X Men the Fantastic Four, So this was
them trying to build their own studio. And even these
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early films weren't distributed by Marvel. They had partnerships with
Paramount and Universal Pictures before they were the Marvel we
know today. And it was this movie that laid the
groundwork for the entire phase. One you had Ironman. Then
you had The Incredible Hulk, which didn't do as well
as they wanted to. The Incredible Hulk as a whole
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on the big screen just hasn't been well received, and
I don't understand it. He is one of my top
five Marvel characters. And the fact that he doesn't have
a film that truly defines him that people love, oh,
that hurts me and my soul. But then you had
Iron Man two, so Captain America, the First Avenger, all
leading up to The Avengers in twenty twelve. But if
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it wouldn't have been for the success of this movie,
none of that stuff would have mattered. This was the
movie that kickstarted a multi billion dollar success of the mcu.
Ironman had a budget of one hundred and forty million
dollars went on to make five hundred and eighty five
million dollars worldwide, which was a lot of money. Wasn't
quite what we know today to be the standard of
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a billion dollars. But what led to the success of
that the charisma of Robert Downey Junior as iron Man,
because before him, iron Man wasn't that beloved of a character. Again,
it is Marvel dipping back into the second stringers. If
you look at the sale of Ironman comics before this,
it wasn't like he was a bestseller overall. Tony Stark
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wasn't seen as the best guy on his own. But
then you have Robert Downey Junior playing them. That brings
a whole new life to the character. It makes them
more relatable. Of course, it gives them that smugness that
we all grew to love him. But it truly defined
the character unlike anything we had seen before, much like
Wesley Snipes did with Blade back in nineteen ninety eight.
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You see a theme here how important casting is. It
could have been Tom Cruise, which was rumored to have
been the person who was gonna be playing iron Man.
It all comes down to who you pick on these roles,
and if you look at some of the successful and
unsuccessful superhero movies in time, a lot of times it
comes down to casting. You could say Robert Downey Junior
was one of the most successful casting stories of all time,
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and people had doubts about him. He had gone through
a lot of stuff, a lot of legal troubles leading
up to this that it was a bit of a
risk just to pick him to be Tony Stark. And
again in two thousand and eight, Marvel was still struggling.
They were working with a loan that they would get
to make these movies, which is how the first phase
of the MCU was funded, and they were just trying
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to stay afloat. They were clawing, just trying to have
something that would resonate with fans. And finally we had
that with iron Man. And it still wasn't a golden
paved road from here because they still had to set
up all these movies to lead up to The Avengers.
And even though Ironman did really well and was successful,
it didn't instantly make every Marvel movie you hit. I
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would say it wasn't until the Avengers came out that
people really took notice of everything and sometimes went back
and rewatched those movies for the first time, and that
is really what I feel started it. But you wouldn't
have had that if it wouldn't have been for the
success of Iron Man, who was essentially the mascot for
Marvel all the way leading up to Endgame. If it
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wouldn't have been for Tony Stark, a lot of those
movies wouldn't have been as successful. And it was this
movie that put the idea into everybody else's heads, not
just DC but anybody with ip like this, that you
got to create your own cinematic universe. You have to
have why not these movies that interconnect, because the great
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business model if you can get one person to see
one movie and then also see all these other three
four five movies leading up to another one, that is
how you create a very profitable franchise. So not only
did it impact comic book movies, but it impacted movies
like Fast and the Furious, all the teen dystopian novels
adaptations to come into twenty tens, which you also had
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Harry Potter. Obviously, before this Twilight was happening around the
same time, but this proved how successful that could be.
And even now with Robert Downey Junior coming back as
Doctor Doom, the influence of this movie continues to this day.
That is why I have it at number five. A
couple honorable mentions. One I mentioned at the very beginning
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of this episode. Superman nineteen seventy eight. Some would say
this movie created the mold. Did it really create the mold?
Or was it just the first movie? And maybe it's
because I've just never been the biggest fan of the
Superman character. He has always felt like quote unquote generic
superhero to me, the one everybody knows. He's a little
two boy, scoaled, he fly, he does all these noble things,
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but he doesn't have any flaws. That's why I've always
been drawn to the Marvel characters who do have flaws,
who feel more like real humans that happened to have superpowers.
Superman just always felt too polish to me. And the
movies of the seventies and all the sequels that came
were a little bit ahead of my time, and they
are great for what they are. But when it comes
to what I enjoy about superhero characters, what I enjoy
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about my comic book films. It just isn't in the
dna of those first movies, And I feel that if
those movies wouldn't have happened, we still could have had
Batman nineteen eighty nine and got to where we are
today because Superman came out in seventy eight and nothing
else really significant came out until Batman nineteen eighty nine.
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So in a way, did that movie actually hurt comic
book films? Was it groundbreaking at the time to see
Superman fly? Yeah? Was it a serious, compelling and commercially
successful movie. Yeah, But I still think we could have
got to where we are today without that movie. Someone
else just would have been first. First. Other honorable mention
was one I just touched on was The Avengers. The
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idea of synergy. It made The Avengers a household name,
leading to other movie franchises wanting to create a team
of heroes, whether it be DC or whether it be
anybody else. It's that idea of making a team. The
Avengers was Marvel's first billion dollar movie. You had all
the sequels leading up to Endgame, which is the highest
grossing Marvel movie. My only thing with The Avengers is
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it was a great run from twenty twelve to twenty nineteen.
But if you think about Marvel now and what they
continue to chase, is it also a bad thing what
they did because they had so much success with creating
all of these crossovers, all of these movies that you
have to watch, is it now kind of a hard
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thing to replicate and still be chasing because it was
so successful and now I feel audiences have kind of
grown tired of that. You don't have people as invested
in wanting to watch every single Marvel movie, and when
they do continue to connect, it feels like everybody has
to do a lot of homework in order to do so.
Even hearing that now with the new Captain America movie
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of people who didn't watch the TV show and are
a little bit lost. So by creating something so great
that they want to hold on to, is that more
now detrimental to their health? Should we get rid of
that altogether, throw that out the window and just create
singular movies? Will that model even work anymore? So? While
I do feel it is an important movie, I think
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even without the Avengers we could have still had successful
singular movies. The movie Landscape would have looked much different,
maybe for the best or maybe for the worst. Maybe
if we didn't have The Avengers, all the other sequels
that followed, if they didn't interconnect, wouldn't have worked. Maybe
it's just me looking back on history now and what
everything continues to be that I think, oh man, maybe
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it was good while it lasted, but now it's hurting
us a little bit more than it should. So that
is my list, my opinion. If you have a different
opinion on one that should have been included, one that
shouldn't have been on this list, let me know. Hit
me up on socials at Mike Destro or you can
always email me Moviemike d at gmail dot com. Let's
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get into it now. A spoiler free movie review of
Captain America Brave New World. I feel like Jim Brewer's
character in Half Baked, where he's like, I'm not gonna
do what everybody thinks I'm gonna do. I'm not gonna
freak out with any Marvel movie. The hate is gonna
be real right now. And I try to avoid any
other reviews going into any movie just because I don't
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want to be influenced with this. When it was hard
to do. It was everywhere, and whenever a Marvel movie
comes out now, or even a DC movie, any superhero movie,
unless it's top tier, it's gonna get ripped to shreds.
And you always have to kind of look through all
the things that people are saying and are people really
mad because the movie is bad or are people just
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looking for that hate for that rage clickbait. I'm here
to tell you I am not in any way good
a rage bait. In this review. I'm gonna give you
my fair, honest opinion as a Marvel fan. If you're
watching on YouTube, you can see behind me all of
the influence I have with every review that I do.
I have an Incredible Hulk comic right next to me.
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I have the first appearance of Wolverine in a whole
comic right here behind me. I'm a huge fan of
the Incredible Hulk, and his portrayal on the big screen
just hasn't been up to expectation. And this movie was
using a lot of the Red Hulk and its marketing.
If you look at the poster, the first teaser we
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got is the Red Hulk hand holding the Captain America shield.
Just now, I just got home from the gym after
watching this movie, and I'm still seeing the trailer and
that's all embedded in there. It is Harrison Ford turning
into the Red Hulk fighting Sam Wilson, and this is
what that is. It is Sam Wilson's introduction as a
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lead in the MCU going into this. I love what
Anthony Mackie had to say in the press tour on
a red carpet. Somebody asked him and he said, this
feels amazing to me because it is the first time
audiences are going to see my movie, not just his
first movie in the MCU, but him as an actor.
That is a big deal. As I was rooting for
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Anthony Mackie, as I was rooting for the Incredible Hulk
Red Hulk in this there were a lot of problems.
There were a lot of things that this movie drew
influence from and drew inspiration from. That was kind of
like picking off the good pieces of something you burned
in the oven, like, oh no, I could still manage it.
I could still make a meal out of this. Let
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me pick off some things from two thousand and eighth
Incredible Holk, which I love, but a lot of people
hate that movie. I will defend that movie as being
a great Marvel movie, But I don't think you should
be going back to that movie to pick apart the
pieces from it to sell your new Captain America. That's
what they did. You have Thunderbolt Ross from that movie.
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Now the actor who played him in that original movie
has passed away, so they recast them with Harrison Ford.
There's a lot of disconnect there because in order to
get his whole story arc, you have to know that movie.
Otherwise they don't really do a good job in selling
you what is going on with his character. And not
only that, they go to one of the worst Marvel
movies of all time, I would say the worst ever,
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The Eternals, and they pick apart the little piece that
we were all asking about the end of the Eternals.
This it's like this big white thing in the middle
of the ocean, and then we haven't talked about it since.
You know what, Let's pull apart that little bird piece
and put it in this movie. And what is going
on here? It is still Sam Wilson struggling with can
I be Captain America without have taken the serum Do
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I have what it takes? The themes we already kind
of discussed and went over in the Disney Plus show
are still at the forefront of this movie, which I
found to be weird. We've already been there. I just
want to see you being Captain America. I don't want
to see you questioning it anymore. Like, just put on
the suit and do the thing, because that is a
hero we need. The other really hard part about getting
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over the marketing of this movie. In that trailer, it
is Thunderbolt Ross telling them I want you to rebuild
the Avengers, and he's like, all right, let's rebuild the Avengers.
It's supposed to be them working together. Then something goes
down where his inner circle has been compromised, and all
of a sudden, somebody tries to kill the president, and
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now he doesn't see eye to eye with Captain America
anymore so doing the Captain America thing. He wants to
do what is right. Even though the US government doesn't
want him a part of this. He is still going
to lead this investigation and try to figure out who
was pulling the strings here, who was behind this attack,
and who is trying to stop Thunderbolt Ross's plan of
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signing this treaty to make them look like a good president.
That is essentially the plot of this movie. I won't
get into any other details because I don't want to
reveal too much about what exactly happens. But there was
so little action in this movie that it made it
hard to watch. And not only that the action there was,
it was very slow. The choreography just isn't there. The
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Captain America movies, out of all the MCU movies, always
had the best action. That was their bread and butter,
Quick fast paced action, amazing fights, shootouts, chases. That is
what I went to Captain America for. Think back to
Chris Evans running barefoot down the street. Those are the
moments I think about. Not only were they great superhero movies,
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but they were great crime thrillers. And the biggest problem
I had with Brave New World is it's just uninteresting.
It doesn't get your heart rate up. There's no Marvel magic.
It's not a bad movie, it's just why is this
happening right now? Why are we trying to rehash all
this old stuff? And why don't I believe in Sam
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Wilson as a superhero? And I found myself to be
entertained for the most part, but nothing really exciting happened.
And when you think about it, was like the Captain
America Shield is a bigger star than Anthony Mackie is
right now as Captain America, so much so that I
found myself just questioning all these minor details because of
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how uninteresting the plotline was. It was not only cliched
for a Marvel movie, it was just riddled with cliches
from every Spice thriller that has come out in the
last five years, and all of the superhero elements were
just kind of sprinkled in there and everything that they
teased and the trailer, all the marketing. Not only was
that pushed all the way to the third act, a
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lot of it was the last ten minutes before the
ten minute epilogue. That was it. That's all you got.
So it kind of felt like a bait and switch,
and it was Marvel to me, felt like they knew
what they had, They knew they didn't have a whole lot,
so let's sell what is coming at the end of
it and just get the butts into seats, and that's
what they did. They made one hundred million dollars over
President's Day weekend, They got the butts in the seats.
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They will break even on this movie probably and it
will do what it needs to do to advance the
MCU right now. But it's just leaving a lot of
people feeling ugh, kind of underwhelmed, and I think that
is what has led to such poor reviews from audiences. Again,
it's not that it's all out terrible, it's just that
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we've come to expect a lot from the MCU. We've
come to expect a nice tailored suit, and what we
got out of this movie was something straight off the
racket Zaras And if we have to keep going back
talking about that, the visual effects aren't there, What are
we doing here? This movie costs two hundred million plus.
But God'szilla minus one, with the budget of about fifteen
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million dollars had much better action sequences at sea than
this movie did. It was more believable. So they need
to just find a different way to make these movies
look more appealing. That should be basic, be day one. Things.
We should not be questioning a movie with this budget
of it having CGI anymore. And there was a scene
in particular that happened towards the end of the movie
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where you see Harrison Ford and you see Sam Wilson
standing there and it just looked like a big green
or blue screen that they were looking at. There was
it was like two dimensional, no depth whatsoever, and it
makes the scenes just not connect. There's nothing there. You
don't get a performance out of them because they're just
obviously standing in front of this blue or green screen
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and there's no connection. There's no emotion, and a movie
like this needs that. I never felt invested in Sam's story.
I never believed him as Captain America. At times, I
felt I could probably beat him up, and I can't
beat up many people. I was so uninterested with the plot.
At a certain point, I found myself questioning what shoes
he was wearing. I was so upset about the shoes
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Sam Wilson was wearing that I was like Captain America.
I wouldn't wear those shoes, those elevated, cool, expensive sneakers
like he would wear those. He would always be ready
to go have to chase somebody down if we needed to.
He couldn't do that in that bomber jacket and those shoes.
It is unbelievable to me, and his character is so
reliant on the technology of the suit. And maybe that's
another thing I'm kind of getting tired of in the
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MCU is the stark influence that all the suits have
this technology where they don't have superpowers, they have super technology.
All the people with superpowers have kind of gone on.
We don't have those people anymore. It almost feels like
all the seniors have graduated and now we're left with
that freshman class that are still trying to push this narrative.
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But they're still talking about their acts, still talking about
the person who saved the world and questioning whether or
not they can do that. Just forget about your ex
stop talking about them, and move on and show me
why you can save the world. The question comes down
to do you need superpowers to be a hero. That
is what this movie is trying to say. Did we
need a two hour movie to say that. I don't
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think so. I think we got that in the series
before this. There's nothing really brave. There's nothing new about
Brave New World. It just feels like a bunch of
rehashed plotlines slapped together. At times, it feels like I
was watching one of the parody movies that they do
on the Boys, the TV show. Whenever they're making their
superhero movies, it kind of felt like watching one of those.
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We still have a lot of villain problems. This entire
movie just kind of felt like a two hour post
credit scene. If you look at kind of the pattern
that we have in the MCU, it's the MCU is
back dead, Pull a Wolverine. Next movie comes out, Brave
New World. Ah, the MCU is dead. But then before this,
the trailer for Fantastic four played, and we're gonna say
(36:40):
the same thing again. The M two was back. So
maybe they're just doing this pattern of good movie, mediocre movie.
Good movie, mediocre movie. And I think it's just that
my standards and all of our standards have become so
high and expecting every movie to be great, expecting every
movie to be the level of The Avengers. With all
that said, again, I was entertained enough, but I was
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also irritated a little bit at what this movie could
have been. Am I excited to see more of Captain America?
Not really, not really at all. It was more of
a Thunderbolt Ross movie than it was a Captain America movie.
I think if they can get that down right, give
Sam some confidence. Now, maybe they could do it in
a second movie before Captain America Brave New World. I
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give it three out of five shields. It's time to
head down to movie Mike trailer, Paul, Is it possible
to like something even though you know it's not gonna
be that good? Now, that's kind of how I feel
about Jurassic World rebirth. We've all been waiting for a
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glimpse of this. There have been a lot of rumors
about Jurassic World and it was gonna be R rated.
It's not R rated. After seeing this trailer, though, I
kind of wish it was R rated because the weird
thing about Jurassic World is this feel like a reboot
of the reboot, which we had the reboot with Jurassic
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World back in twenty fifteen with Chris Pratt. It was
a reboot of the original Jurassic Park that we grew
up with, one of the best, not only sci fi
movies of all time, one of the best movies of
the nineties, spawned a fantastic franchise that got rebooted in
twenty fifteen, So a long time in between the last
Jurassic Park movie from that franchise until the end, it
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felt like very big and impactful. But now, about ten
years after they rebooted it the first time in twenty fifteen,
twenty twenty five, we're getting another reboot. And the thing
I feel about this trailer after watching it is they
are trying to make it seem so different but also
so connected to that one and to the original one,
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that they are almost trying too hard. I almost feel
that I hope that this movie didn't have any DNA
of what we've seen before it, and it's kind of
using that same formula. And while I'm looking at this
trailer and thinking, I don't think this is gonna be good,
I don't really think it's gonna be bad, but I
don't think it's gonna be the quote unquote rebirth that
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we were looking for that I think this franchise needed this.
I can feel that is already gonna be one of
those movies you go to the theaters to watch. It's fine,
probably appeals to a mass amount of people, which is
what they go for in these Jurassic Park movies now,
But I feel as soon as I leave that theater
and as soon as I record the review for that movie,
I'm not gonna think about it again. And that's a
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bit of a bummer. Now with Jurassic World dominion that
we just had most recently, that movie left a bad
taste in my mouth. And that movie banked on a
lot of nostalgia bringing back the original cast member at
least most of them, to say Okay, they're coming back.
That felt like an event, and that movie fell flat.
This movie feels like, Okay, we're getting rid of all
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those people, we're not connecting it anymore, but we're still
gonna have a little bit of remnants holding onto things
that I don't think then to hold on to anymore.
Let's move past it. I don't need to see the
Jurassic World banner anymore. I don't need references to all
the initial experiments, to Park gone wrong, all that. Just
get away from it entirely and bring us something new.
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And I feel that way on the one end, But
then on the other end, I watched this trailer. I'm
like dinosaurs running around and attacking people. That's awesome. So
just from a pure lover of summer blockbusters, this is
a movie I'm gonna go watch and I'm gonna enjoy it.
But as somebody who wants to see a franchise that
has kind of been beaten the crab at this point,
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Have something new, have something fresh. It's just not doing
it for me on all those levels. It's just not
quite what I was expecting it to be. It's almost
like when your parents say, I'm not mad at you,
I'm disappointed. That's kind of how I feel about this.
I'm not thinking this is gonna be an awful movie,
but I just wanted something different. It just kind of
feels like it's gonna be a very fast action type movie.
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That being said, get into the trailers talk about what
is going on here. Before I get into more of
my love and grievances with this trailer, here's just a
little bit of Jurassic World rebirth. This island was the
research facility for the original Jurassic Park. We need DNA
from the three biggest dinosaurs. Do we have to get
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a sample from an egg? These dinosaurs we're too dangerous
for the original park, The worst of the worst. We're
left here. Come doggad. So what it looks like is
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happening in this movie. You still have some dinosaurs that
are living in this very remote island. We've seen that
time and time again. And these creatures, specifically three different creatures,
hold the key to a potentially saving drug. So you
have Scarlett Johansson teaming up with some other scientists, some
other nerds. I love me a good scientist, nerd that
knows a lot about dinosaurs. That is why we love
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these movies. She takes them there and they have to
get not one, not two, but three samples from three
different dinosaurs. I can already see this movie playing out
on my head of like, the first one, oh man,
how are we gonna get this one? They get it.
Second one is a little bit harder, maybe they fail
a little bit, and they try again. Then they get
the second one, and then the third one is gonna
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be the Big Boy, the one we all come to see.
It's gonna be the t Rex, because how is it not?
Really the reason we go to these movies is to
see the raptors, which get referenced in this trailer that
I just played you, and we go for the t Rex,
the big logo on every single Jurassic Park movie. That
is the big Boy. That is the big one that draws,
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that is the star. That is the one we go
to to see. So. Scarlett Johansson plays a character named
Zora Bennett. She's a covert operations expert. Essentially, she is
black widow but for dinosaurs. You see her in this
trailer scaling mountains, telling them she can take them there
and can guarantee their safety. That is what she is
to this group of scientists. You'll say, have maherschel Ali.
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The problem I have after watching this trailer is the
dialogue feels so bad. It feels like I'm playing a
Jurassic Park video game and this is the dialogue, and
not even a modern video game. I'm talking about a
video game from the two thousands where their lips don't
quite match up with what they are saying. I'm talking
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about graphics where the guys are basically these big three
D polygons and there's not a lot going on there.
That is how I feel about this dialogue. It feels
very cheesy, formulaic, almost AI generated at times, so much
so I pull three examples of the three worst lines
of dialogue just from this trailer. Here is bad line
number one. Can you do ready tomorrow? I can guarantee
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your safety, I mean more or less, more or less
What is that I guarantee your safety more or less.
It's so tongue in cheek and like, ah, like if
your grandma on Facebook writing this dialogue, that's bad line
number one. Here's bad line number two. No one's dumb
enough to go where we're going, Like just by saying,
why do you need to say that? In the trailer,
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no one's dumb enough to go where we are going.
We're just the ragtag group of individuals go and chase
the dinosaurs. It just feels like they are over explaining everything.
And finally, here is bad line number three. They're helping
the mostazor defend territory, stalk hunt. None of what you
just said is good that line from Scarlett Johansson all
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over dialogue in this trailer, it feels very much what
people hate on superhero movies for being that type of humor.
They are one step away from saying, oh no, the
dinosaur's right behind me, isn't it so? Overall, when it
comes to the DNA of this movie, I just feel
like it has very weak bones. That being said, the
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movie itself, the way it looks and the way it's
shot in this trailer, I actually enjoy it feels like
a movie that demands the big screen in the summer. Again,
it's coming out on July second. Any Jurassic Park movie
just has that summer blockbuster feel to me. I still
get that vibe from this Jurassic Park movies now, to
me are starting to feel more like the Fast and
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the Furious movies. And maybe it's a universal thing. There
was a period of time where they were saying, it's
not out of the realm, the possibility that we could
combine these two franchises, and based upon the ending and
the dialogue I'm seeing in this trailer, I feel like
they're actually not too far off from that. It seemed
like a crazy idea at the time, but I'm kind
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of hoping for some bloodshed. I'm even at the point
where I'm kind of rooting for the dinosaurs take out
a few humans. There are moments, especially in Jurassic Park
Lost World, where the dinosaurs would actually kill humans that
those are the most memorable for me. Sometimes I root
for villains and movies when it comes to the Dress
Park movie, especially right now, I am rooting for the dinosaurs.
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Dinosaurs doing nothing wrong, They're just living their life. It's
the crazy scientists who brought them back to life. Now
they have to deal with it. But going back to
that dialogue of them even explaining that this is the
island that they sent all the dinosaurs that weren't cut
out to be in the theme parks, that really makes
no sense to me, because we're any of the dinosaurs
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that were in the theme park really supposed to be there,
because we all saw what happened. It all went to
hell in a handbasket. There was total mayhem. You shouldn't
have had a t rex in a theme park. That
animal species was not cut out to be in a
theme park. They're trying to make it seem like, oh,
we're gonna be really up against something we've never been
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up against before on this island because these are the
rejects on the rejects. All these dinosaurs are hardcore. I
do think the addition of the underwater dinosaurs is pretty cool.
Whenever they're in the boat towards the end of this
trailer and you see all of the dinosaurs swimming towards them,
that is a part where I'm like, how are they
going to get out of that one? Because those dinosaurs
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are massive and that boat looks so tiny and The
big question I asked myself is does this feel like
a billion dollar movie? Because pretty much every single Jurassic
Park movie has made a billion dollars. The first one
back in ninety three one point one billion with a
sixty three million dollar budget, which is astonishing. Jurassic Park
The Lost World didn't quite make it. I think people
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didn't give this movie a chance. Made six hundred and
eighteen million dollars. Then they kept going down. Jurassic Park
three three hundred and sixty nine. That's probably what they
stopped making these for a while. They stopped becoming as
profitable as that first one. But Jurassic World in twenty
fifteen one point sixty seven billion, We're back Baby Fallen
Kingdom one point three one billion. Even Dominions still crossed
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that one billion dollar mark, just barely, just barely, kind
of lipped across that finish line. But that was with
the budget of a hundred and eighty five million, And
if we're looking at the budget of Jurassic World Rebirth,
it is the most expensive one at two hundred and
sixty five million dollars. This trailer does not look like
a two hundred and sixty five million dollar budget movie,
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and it does not feel to me like it is
going to be a billion dollar movie. It looks like
it's gonna be fun, but it kind of looks like
it's gonna be forgettable. Doesn't scream to me like it's
gonna give audiences a reason to go back to the
theater to watch this, because there's not enough time that
it's passed to make people feel like, oh, this is
something new. It's gonna feel like a continuation of that.
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Even the name of it Jurassic World Rebirth, it still
has the world, which they kind of changed a little
bit from calling it a Jurassic Park to calling it
Jurassic World, making it feel bigger. Don't come back to
me until it's Jurassic World outer space. We just need
to go a step further, put them in space, or
even do a movie like Planet of the Apes, but
with dinosaurs, where the dinosaurs become sophistic catered and smart.
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They're speaking English to each other, and it is the
humans who are the minority. Could you imagine a dinosaur
like a raptor, capturing a human and then putting them
in an amusement park. That is the movie I want
to see. I want to see a human escaping the
park and then all the dinosaurs freak out, like the
human is loose, it's gonna kill us. It has opposable thumbs.
They grab that gun, put that gun down. Human. That
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is the movie I want to see. That would have
been Jurassic World Rebirth. But again, this movie is coming
out on July second. I'm still going to watch it.
I'm still gonna enjoy it, but I'm just not as
excited about it. And that was this week's edition of
Movie min Framer par and that is gonna do it
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for another episode here of the podcast. But before I go,
I gotta give my listeners shout out of the week
this week. I'm going over to tic Tac and it's
a comment from one of my last posts from last
week's episode, where Kelsey and I talked about Harry Potter.
I reranked all of the movies and we got into
a debate over a death in Harry Potter that I
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thought was overrated, and maybe I picked the one comment
that actually agreed with me, because man, people let me
have it online last week. So I'm shouting out Henry
Ochoa on TikTok, who said Dobby's death was way sadder
in my opinion, than Dumbledore exactly, Henry, That's what I
was saying, And later in that episode I did say
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that that is the death that affected me the most,
poor Dobby, because I feel like Dobby was good the
entire time. Dumbledore was always like, oh, I forgot to
tell you, Harry. Oh I forgot to tell you this, Harry.
That's right, I haven't told you. Dumbledore was withholding all
this information. Dumbledore kind of set up Harry Potter. So
maybe that's the reason why his death wasn't as impactful
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to me. I'd go Dobby and then I'd probably go
Snape after that, But still Dumbledore's death not that memorable.
If you missed that episode, just go back one in
the feed, and if you miss let me have it
on Instagram, TikTok or Facebook or YouTube. Go comment over
there and maybe I'll pick you in next week's Listener
shout out of the week. Thank you Henry for listening,
and thank you for commenting. Thank you everybody part of
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the movie crew listening to this week's episode sharing it
with a friend. Until next time, go out and watch
good movies and I will talk to you later.
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