The Root Cause of Healing: Chronic Illness, Microdosing & Plant Medicine with Christy Nault (The Velvet)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's the Velvet's
Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Christynault is here. You and I were just talking before
the podcast. I love all of the topics are going
to discuss today, and my listeners have heard me cover
a little bit about the psilocybin stuff, a lot about
looking into root causes and our bodies own, using our
bodies as our own best healer. And you have so
much experience in all of these areas. You've made a

(00:32):
career out of it, and I want to always tell
the listeners kind of why you've put so much energy
into things, Like I love that we always talk about
people's success stories, but I like to go back in
and go, Okay, what was the catalyst to bring you
to this place? Why is this so important to you?
What is the big driver here? And I know you
have a lot of stories that got to you to

(00:55):
this place, so absolutely let's go back first. Well, first
of all, welcome, Hello, thank you, thank you so much, thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
For having me. Kelly. Excited to be here and to
connect with you today.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm so happy you're here, and I want to go
back because we were just talking about this before you
brought up the vaccine issue. This is not political for
any of the listeners. This is not a political podcast.
You guys know, I really try to steer clear of
those conversations. But this is your life experience, and so
will you start by just telling us a little bit
about your story, your family's story. And I know your

(01:25):
brother specifically had some things come up around a vaccine
that has now led you down this journey, or maybe
was the starting point of this journey for you. So
let's go back and will you tell the listeners and
myself a little bit about your story?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yes, so happy to share. I have been working in
the women's healing space for over fifteen years, but the
catalyst was really when I was three years old, so
I can't really share the story without rewinding all the
way back. I feel like the beginning of my story
is quite different than a lot of other practitioners. A
lot of other practitioners get into this line of work

(01:59):
because they were really ill as children. And it wasn't
me who was sick as a child, it was my brother,
and for me, I was the witness of that. And
I've always been immersed in hospital settings and just I've
seen what doesn't work, and I always have his burning
desire to learn more, and I've been doing that forever

(02:20):
and ever. So Essentially, I am one of three children.
I'm the middle child. My brother was four years older
than me, and my parents described him as truly the
perfect first child ever. He was born incredibly healthy. He
was so athletic, so charming and charismatic and just incredible.
They had seven really amazing years with him. And he

(02:41):
went in for a well check visit at seven years old,
just got your routine vaccines, and he was severely vaccine
injured that day. Beginning a couple hours after the appointment,
he started having grandma seizures and this led to the
worst case of epilepsy that doctors had ever witnessed at
that point in time. That was in the early nineties,

(03:02):
so he was having three hundred and fifty grandma seizures
every single day. It was really really wild. Yeah, I
was only three years old at this time, so this
is just all I truly remember. He had over thirteen
brain surgeries by the time he was in middle school,
had over half of his brain removed, and none of
that worked. He was on dozens of medications that created

(03:24):
so many other issues. You know. One of the medications
that he was on has now been pulled off the
shelves has a black box warning for young boys it
creates violent behavioral outbursts. And that was part of my
story too. So for me, home didn't really feel safe.
There was a lot of you know, behavioral issues with
my brother. Wasn't his fault whatsoever. And my form of

(03:47):
coping and control and survival as a child was to
just be as perfect as possible so my parents did
not have to worry about me whatsoever. And that really debilitating,
suffocating perfectism is what shaped the blueprint of my nervous
system and carried me through the rest of my life
and then ended up leading into my own story with

(04:08):
chronic illness. And it wasn't, you know, for me a
history of being on a ton of antibiotics as a
kid like other people, I wasn't on any I was
a thriving athlete, straight a student, you know, just being
as perfect and great as I could. I was really
interested in health from a young age, but I did
struggle a lot with eating disorders, really intense anorexia by

(04:28):
the time I was in middle school. Because again that
was my form of trying to find control in a
very out of control situation. So there's a lot that
happened within all of those years. My mom was just
an incredible, incredibly fierce advocate for my brother. This was
again the nineties, We didn't have the internet. Even chiropractic

(04:49):
hare back then was considered a little wu So she
would go to the library and research as much as
possibly could and present this information to my brother's doctors.
And there was just a lot of medical gaslighting. My
brother was medically kidnapped from our family at one point.
And you know, a big part of my story this actually,

(05:10):
this light bulb moment just happened recently when I was
being interviewed on a podcast. But essentially, my mom presented
some information to my brother's doctors and they just said,
you know what, lady, you're too well researched, You know
too much. This is a little weird. This isn't right
for people to like know this much. They in turn
diagnosed my mom with Munchausen by proxy syndrome, which is

(05:33):
basically saying, you're making this up about your child. Took
my brother off all his med's cold turkey that day.
He seized for seventy two hours straight and it was
just so traumatic. I don't have many memories under the
age of like twenty five years old. I've kind of
blocked all of that stuff out, although it is coming
back with the psilocybin work. But that's one memory I
do have is watching my brother sees for three days straight.

(05:57):
And I think that that moment of witnessing my mom
be so confident in this new information she had presented
to a team of doctors get shut down in our
family getting punished so severely. For my mom using her
voice also was a big factor in me being so
afraid to use my voice for so long, And I

(06:18):
think so many women could relate to that. And the
reason I'm sharing that is because I've done all the things.
We'll talk about the rocause healing, we'll talk about the
micro dosing, But even in the times when I was,
you know, had the perfect diet, all of the detoxes
and supplements on board, and like I was still struggling,
and it was actually using micro dosing to dissolve those

(06:39):
fear barriers to find my authentic voice again that I
feel like has been so healing for me on my
journey and just being able to speak in front of
thousands of women and connect with you and other audiences
on podcasts, and I feel like health is truly multidimensional.
There are the physiological aspects, the emotional, the spiritual, and
like I'm kind of making these data of the ancestral

(07:01):
connection that I'm healing in real time. Like my mom
was punished for using her voice and I'm kind of
healing it from my family right now by sharing our story.
So that's just kind of a fun thing we can
get into. But essentially, my brother did end up passing away.
He was thirty years old, and it was rough. Obviously,
it was a trauma for me, and that is what

(07:22):
really initiated my journey with chronic illness. I was struggling
with gut issues, I was struggling with hormone issues prior
to that, but the shock and the trauma of the death,
it was like within a couple weeks, I had an endometriosis, diagnosis,
chronic lime disease, math style activation, syndrome, autoimmunity. I mean,
the list was a mile long. And that was my

(07:42):
wake up call. I had a massive spiritual awakening when
my brother passed away. As crazy at it as it is,
I'm grateful for it all because I do understand the
sole contract we made with each other, and he really
did give up his life so I could wake up
and share this messaging with so many people. But it
made me think because I had been working with women already.

(08:05):
I started off as a personal trainer in college, got
into health coaching, got into the root cause space, and
just witnessing what my body went through after my brother's
death was like, all right, we need to go so
much deeper with all of these women who are quote
unquote doing all the right things that are still struggling
because so much of our issues are trauma based and

(08:26):
chronic nervous system disregulation, and we are multidimensional being, so
we really have to address the multidimensional root causes to
get to a level of health that we all desire.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I think one of the main points that you're making
is something that I love talking about as well, or
that's really important to me, and that's I think what
we're seeing on a bigger scale in our world right
now is we do tend to make a lot of
conversations political, and I think it's easy for either side
to kind of blame the other side or whatever. But
as a whole, what I'm noticing is we can't allays

(09:00):
maybe put our faith into these big systems that I
think we've been programmed to believe in from our you know,
our generation and before us, I think we've kind of
led with like blind faith with and this goes. I'm
talking mostly about the medical field, and I think we're
seeing a lot of like, hey, wait, we got to
start advocating for ourselves. We've got to start paying attention

(09:20):
to what we're putting in our bodies. We've got to
start paying attention to not just throwing a pill at
something like why is something happening? And those conversations seem
to be happening a lot more. Vaccines are obviously part
of that, and I think that, to me, is a
journey that everyone should go on with themselves and see
how your body reacts and things like that. I would

(09:40):
like to ask you, just because I don't know the
answer to this, when you say vaccine injury, what does
that entail? What happened? What did that look like other
than the seizures? Why would that happen to him specifically?
Like do you have any of those kind of answers.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Well, you know, it's very clear that not everyone who
can it's vaccinated has extreme reactions like my brother. And
that's why I think that it's hard for people to grasp.
They're like I was vaccinated as a kid, or my
children were vaccinated, and that didn't happen to my kids,
so obviously like your story's just a fluke, but that's
really not true. You know, as a society, we have

(10:17):
quite literally normalized things like childhood obesity, autism, type one diabetes,
food allergies like eggsima. We just think those things are normal,
and vaccines are by no means the whole picture of
why we're dealing with a chronically ill society. It's our
food system, it's our farming practices, it's our water, it's
the fact that family systems have become disconnected, and there's

(10:39):
so many factors. So it's absolutely not one thing. But
you can't sue vaccine companies because they convince the government
that vaccines are unavoidably unsafe. So this is coming from
vaccine manufacturers themselves. And there are a lot of toxicities
and really heavy loads of things like heavy metals that
contribute to our load, and you know, there are obviously

(11:03):
other things that contribute to our toxin load as well.
I don't have the answer for you as to, you know,
why that happened to my brother. I really don't know.
You know, there could be underlying genetic imprints that make
some people more susceptible to different things. It could be
so many things, but yeah, for him, it was just
basically he went into disappointment as a vibrant, incredibly healthy, smart,

(11:28):
athletic child and he changed overnight. And I have, you know,
witnessed this with so many people. But like I said,
it doesn't always look like that, Like sickness looks like
a lot of things that unfortunately we've normalized. So a
big phrase I say a lot my work is common
is not normal, even with things like as women, I
think a lot of us have been conditioned to believe

(11:49):
like bloating and PMS and cramps when we get our period,
Like we just think those things are normal because so
many people experience them. But common is not normal, and
there genuinely are reasons as to why these different physical
manifestation of issues do present.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Well. You've also touched on the fact that you got
put on a lot of medicine and then you would
be having symptoms from that medicine or maybe it was
your brother that you mentioned that way. Sorry, that's a
big thing that I always talk about. We never look
at where things are coming from or treat that. We
just treat the symptom, but then that creates other symptoms,
And I'm like, is that that can't I do believe
in Western medicine for a lot of things, and I

(12:31):
believe that it works best when it's combined with like
the Eastern approach and looking at root causes. So, I
know you mentioned a bunch of things that came up
for you after your brother passed, and then as I
read your story, I noticed that all of those things
became alleviated with the work that you were doing on
yourself and looking at the root cause. So can you
talk through that a little bit, like how did you

(12:53):
figure out that your body was its own best healer
and then how did you work to find what the
root causes actually were?

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yes, beautiful. I think one thing I want to mention
when we're talking about root cause, it's never one root cause.
So people find me on Instagram and they're like, Oh,
this is so cool, this makes a lot of sense
root cause healing, and then I'll get like one hundred
DMS a day, Like Christy, what's the root cause of ezema?
Like there's like this chart that I can just tell you,
and that's really not it. We are mostly all dealing

(13:23):
with issues around depletion, dysregulation, and toxicity as women, especially,
you know, those of us who grew up in the nineties,
we were conditioned to believe that being tiny was synonymous
with healthy. A lot of us grew up in like
the fat free, low calorie craze, and we never saw
food as medicine. We were conditioned to fear food and

(13:46):
restrict as much as possible, and we grew up where
the media was telling us like Jessica Simpson and Britney
Spears were really fat, and like there was actually no
true information about our health. We thought like the epitome
of health was eating twelve hundred calories a day, which
is literally the amount a two year old toddler needs,
like bare minimally, not a woman who is capable of

(14:09):
reproducing another human being. So when it comes to root
cause healing, it actually can be quite simple. I have
my own proprietary order of operations framework that I feel
like is so incredibly important to acknowledge because when a
lot of people start, you know, realizing that Western medicine
isn't probably the best for chronic solutions. Western medicine is

(14:30):
amazing for emergency cases, right, You're going to get it
if you get in a car accident, if like something
really severe happens in an emergency situation, Western medicine is
such a gift. But when it comes to any like disease,
those are lifestyle based issues that have accumulated over the
course of years, if not decades, and it's going to

(14:52):
require us to take a shift within our lifestyle. So
for a lot of health conscious women, I find that
they start to disconnect from the Western medicine model, maybe
explore like functional medicine. But unfortunately, I also believe that
functional medicine has become kind of an exact replica of
Western medicine. Just replacing pharmaceuticals with supplements and like sumplements

(15:16):
can be great, but that's not it's not addressing the
reasons as to why we became sick in the first place. Right,
So these foundations that I speak of, like when we're
talking about root causes. Again, I said, depletion, toxicity, issues, dysregulation.
That's where we need to start. So it is starting
by addressing our nourishment and realizing that like juice cleanses

(15:38):
and you know, eating lettuce, like that's not nourishment. We
have to focus on nutrient dense nutrition. Our body does
not run on thin air. We can't expect our body
to be producing adequate hormones and our body to be
able to heal, our gut lining, and our body to
be able to have, you know, brain power. Most women
are walking around so fatigued and full of brain fog,

(16:00):
and it's like because you're not eating enough too. It
can be simple things. So nourishment is so key, and
that's something we cannot bypass. A lot of people want
to dive into the deep end of like going immediately
into detoxification processes. So you know, they may go to
a functional doctor, get some labs run. People may be
diagnosed with things like parasites or candida, epstein bar virus,

(16:23):
and these are very real things. However, having someone dive
immediately into a cleanse without addressing all of the physical, emotional,
and energetic reasons as to why the body became so
hospitable to these overgrowths in the first place. You can
cleanse all you want, but they're just going to keep
coming back. So for me, I was exploring all of

(16:44):
the cleanses and all of like the really advanced practices
for so long, and my true healing came when I
took it back to the basics of all right, I've
been undernourished for literally thirty years. I need to start
feeding my body and giving my body the fuel so
it can do the job it was actually designed to do,
stabilizing my blood sugar, optimizing my circadian biology with things

(17:06):
like free sunlight and just getting outside for optimal light exposure,
getting enough sleep, right, Like, we can't just out supplement
the poor foundation. So foundations is really where it's at
for me, That's where I start with absolutely everyone. Nervous
system regulation is obviously such a huge conversation that definitely

(17:27):
starts within the realm of foundations. That's where I also
start to integrate some microdosing with people. Then I start
to pursue the opening of drainage pathways with people, which
we can explore a little bit more. Because again, detox
we have to think of it as like level ten
out of ten on the healing journey. We can't start there.
Detox is something happening within the body, but drainage is

(17:49):
all of that junk actually getting out. So if you
jump into a detox protocol, but your elimination channels are
like sluggish. If you're not pooping every day, if you
can't sweat right, these are big issues. If we're not
eliminating the toxins, they're just recirculating. So there is a
smart way to go about the root cause healing. This

(18:10):
order of operations is essential and then just so important
to reinforce that like fifty percent of the puzzle is
emotional in nature, so we can't bypass these unprocessed emotions
or just living out of alignment with our soul's truest essence.
I deal with a lot of women with autoimmunity. They
come to me with autoimmunity, and aside from the nutrition

(18:33):
and the detox, one thing that I really like to
make clear is that our immune system knows exactly who
we are, and it's going to react when you are
not being you. So it's so much deeper than like
I call basic bitch wellness. Is what we see a
lot on Instagram and like, we've got to go deeper.

(18:53):
So that's what I'm here to help people facilitate.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Well, isn't it so interesting too though, because even all
of the stuff that you're talking about, and I do
want to ask more about drainage and parasites. That's something
that's very interesting to me. But in all of the
things that you're talking about, if we don't go back
to the emotional piece, are really diving into all of
the things like what we're eating and all of that.

(19:16):
Like you said, it could be a supplement or it
could be a pill, but we're just throwing something at
the problem again and we don't ever really address it,
so it just recreates we start the cycle all over again.
And it's so funny how we like think, oh, we
just need to drink more coffee in the day, or
we just need, you know, all the things that we
would need to get through the day to survive, when

(19:37):
it's like, why are we just trying to survive? Why
are we not trying to thrive? It's kind of where
I would put that. But you mentioned drainage, which I
need to know more about that.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
What do you mean so our drainage pathways. They're just
our bodies natural systems of detoxification and elimination. So are
polon right like we should? We should really be having

(20:07):
one to three healthy full bowels every day every day.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I'm like yeah, and like, I.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Mean, most women are actually dealing with hypothyroidism. It can
present twenty years before it's even going to show up
on labs. And you know, again Western medicine labs, we're
being tested for just these normal conventional ranges, which simply
means when you get your labs back and they say
your labs are normal, that just means your labs are normal.

(20:36):
They fall in the normal ranges among the rest of
the population that's being tested. But at this point in time,
it's twenty twenty five, ninety four percent of the US
population is metabolically unwell, so we're being tested against ninety
four percent of people who are not well. So normal
doesn't really mean anything, right, So a lot of women
are dealing with you know, sluggish thyroid from years of

(20:59):
undernourishing and you know, the cause of a lot of
constipation with people. So first and foremost like we need
to be eliminating in that capacity. But where I see
the majority of women struggling in their elimination channels. Aside
from that piece is in their liver and in their
gallbladder flow and in their lymphatic system. So you know,
if those again, if those systems aren't operating, those are

(21:21):
the systems that can get the toxins out. When we
talk about toxins, I also don't want to create fear
we can't avoid one hundred percent of them. We don't
want to get in this orthorexic mind frame either, because
I've been there and I see that to be just
as destructive for a lot of people, especially women, especially
high performing, perfectionistic type A women, which you know that

(21:43):
was me for most of my life. We pursue healing
and then we get so like rigid around the healing
that the stress of that actually is more unhealthy than
the toxins themselves. So if our elimination channels are open,
and if we're just doing our best to avoid is
any toxins as possible, we don't have to be so

(22:03):
freaked out and fearful and rigid with them. But the
liver is really key. Our liver is an elimination channel,
and in addition to being a detox organ. The liver
has over five hundred other essential vital functions. So let's
say a lot of women are taking hormonal birth control
that's a huge burden on the liver, and drinking alcohol
quite often, and then using toxic makeup products and hair

(22:27):
pod products, and maybe you're cooking your food in teflon pans,
and maybe you burn candles and fragrance in your house
and use perfume every day, like right over your neck
and thighord that there's every little thing adds up. And
when the liver is so overwhelmed with these toxin burdens,
it actually doesn't have the capacity to eliminate and metabolize

(22:48):
the metabolic waste. So think of things like hormones. Right,
A lot of women are dealing with issues like estrogen dominance.
That's when we see PMS. Heavy periods. PMDD can lead
to issues like endometriosis. When the body is, you know,
busy processing these toxins, it can't metabolize things like estrogen,
and then the estrogen just keeps recirculating in the body

(23:10):
and then we have hormonal imbalances. So, you know, the
different elimination channels are so essential. A lot of people
come to me and when we start, you know, doing
things that are quite simple, even things like coffee enemas.
I know they sound really overwhelming, but I say, like
coffee enemas really saved my life, no exaggeration. I think
I was like almost at liver failure because I was

(23:33):
so unwell, and our body's wildly regenerative, Like the liver
isn't an organ is an organ that can actually regenerate itself.
When we get to the parasite conversation, like, parasites are
attracted to toxic tissues physically and emotionally. So when the
liver is sluggish and it's overwhelmed, it becomes very toxic.

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Parasites are attracted then to that organ system. The parasites
clog up our bile ducts. Then we don't have proper bioflow.
We need bioflow to eliminate toxins. We need bioflow to
digest fat and protein. If we can't digest those things,
we have more gut issues. So the elimination channels, the
detox pathways, the drainage pathways that you'll hear me say,

(24:15):
they're all the same thing. It's a huge, huge part
of the healing puzzle if you're dealing with anything from
gut issues, hormone issues, or chronic illness.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
That's what I was just thinking for people listening, what
does it look like feel like? Like, how do we know?
Is it just that to start paying attention to your body,
your cycles? Are you not sleeping at night? What are
your cravings? Even, Like, I'm trying to think of what
would be one thing you would suggest to people listening

(24:44):
as maybe like hey, that's a little bit of a
red flag.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Mm hmm, Yeah, beautiful question, because again, we have made
so many things normalized. Right Everyone's like, well, my friends
are dealing with that, so what's the big deal? Yeah,
I do say your period. So women who are in
the reproductive years, your menstrual cycle is like your monthly
report cards, so you can check in, like, your period
should be pretty symptom free. It's normal to have a

(25:10):
bit of lower energy during that time. But crams are
not normal. Spotting before your period is not normal, PMS
is not normal. Having acne right before your period or
during your period, that's not normal. Having you know, like
diarrhea like during your period. We're conditioned to believe that
a lot of these things are normal and they're not.
So yeah, that's a that's a beautiful starting place, like

(25:32):
just check in to see how we're feeling. I do
love tracking my sleep because a lot of people might
think like, oh, I'm in bed for you know, seven hours,
but like, are you actually getting deep, restorative sleep? How's
your energy? We should actually wake up and feel energized
without coffee, without needing to rely on, you know, outside stimulants.

(25:53):
How's your brain throughout the day? Like do you have
brain fog? Are you anxious? Are you shaky? Are you
experience and saying fatigue? How's your if you work out?
How's your muscle recovery? Like it's normal to be a
little sore after work, It's like feel your muscles, But
if you are excessively sore where you can't sit down
on the toilet or walk up the stairs, like, that's
a red flag as well that we're not recovering well enough.

(26:16):
But we can really start with like the simple things.
How's our sleep, how's our energy, how's our brain? How's
our period? Are we pooping again a few couple times
a day? How do we feel after we eat? Do
we get bloated? Do we get gassy. None of those
things are actually normal and a lot of them. You know,
overcoming that stuff is really taking it back to the basics.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
It's so fascinating. Okay, So let's talk about parasites, because
I know you say if you have a pulse, you
have parasites, and I I've done a couple in my lifetime.
I think I've done two parasite cleanses because I've had them,
and I don't know. Now that I'm listening to you,
I'm like, maybe I started in the wrong place. Can
you talk through that, because I know I remember saying

(26:58):
to some of my friends like, oh, yeah, I have
parasites right now, and they're like, ah, And I'm like,
one hundred percent you do too, by the way, yes, yeah,
how do we get them? What does that look like
in your body? What does it make you feel like?
And how do we know if we have them?

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Well, if you have a pulse, you have a parasite.
So every single person listening to this has parasites. And
that's not a bad thing or that's not a scary thing.
To some degree, some amount of parasites in our body
is considered normal. What I'm referring to is parasite overgrowth.
So this information like, none of this is new, none
of this is trendy, none of this is like new

(27:34):
wellness information. Humans since the dawn of humanity have been
parasite cleansing and deworming themselves. This information was only taken
out of our current medical literature within the last one
hundred and fifty years. So when Rockefeller Medicine came in
shut down all the herbalism schools, this information was just
wiped out. So there's a lot of history that people

(27:55):
can go and read about themselves. But there are many
other cultures, you know, outside of the United States to
still parasite cleanse from the time that children are one
or two years old. And I get DMS all the
time from like women in Latin America and other countries,
and they're just like wow, it's wild. You have to
spend your energy on Instagram convincing people that this is

(28:17):
a real thing, Like right, you know, doctors will ask
you when you go ask them if you think you
have parasite issues. Have you been to a third world country?
Have you been to a foreign country? This is not
just to third world country issues. And do we really
think like parasites stay within borders, like they just know
rest stay with you know what I mean. So they're

(28:37):
in our water system. They're actually in our municipal tap water. Again,
this is something people can go look at on their own.
But we shouldn't fear parasites once again, because we can't
avoid them. We get parasites from our food both plant
based foods and animal foods, from doing really beautiful things
like barefoot grounding outside in the soil. That's something you

(28:58):
want to do, and that's the way. You can also
get parasites from our water system. From the air, they
can be sexually transmitted. You can get parasites in public
restrooms like we cannot avoid like that. Ru yeah, literally everywhere.
So a healthy, resilient body should, for the most part,
be able to take care of them. Also, you know,

(29:20):
if we are cleansing consistently, so our body should be
resilient enough to handle the overgrowth. But most people's bodies
aren't at this point. And like I said, cultures around
the world are parasite cleansing like twice yearly, like it's
just part of maintenance health. And I mentioned earlier parasites
are attracted to toxic tissues both physically and emotionally. So

(29:42):
all of the chemicals in our environment, all of the
unprocessed emotions, and the unresolved traumas stewing in our body.
Parasites are very low vibrational beings and they actually resonate
within like fear frequency and unprocessed trauma within the low
vibrational frequencies within our body. So I teach parasite cleansing

(30:03):
as multidimensional parasite cleansing. A lot of it goes so
deep I could literally go I could take this conversation
in a million different directions. I believe parasites are a
form of ancestral karmic debts, and it can get very spiritual.
But to answer your question of like how do we
know that we have them, Everyone's going to have them.

(30:23):
But like some of the most common issues that I
see with parasites, well, if you have any chronic disease, right, so,
if you have autoimmunity, if you have like IBS, if
you have PCOS or endometriosis or fertility struggles, there's going
to be some type of parasite overgrowth involved there for sure.
But even things like we've normalized like migraines like bloating, headaches,

(30:48):
skin issues, acne, egzima, low energy, because parasites actually will
steal your fuel, your food before you get to assimilate
the nutrients from the food that you're eating. Sugar cravings,
carb cravings, so parasites actually signal to the brain to
feed them. So for a lot of people, they're like,

(31:09):
I just need better willpower. You know, I'm craving sugar
all the time. I can't get rid of these sugar cravings.
And I like to tell people like, you're not going
to be able to fight through this with willpower when
there are beings inside of your body that are controlling
your thoughts, your cravings, your reactions, your perception of the world.
Parasites are not something that are just in your gut either.

(31:31):
They reside in every single organ system, tissue fluid in
your body. So they can be in the brain, the lungs,
the sinuses, they can be they're in the liver, the gallbladder,
the pancreas, your lymphatic, your bloodstream. So again, shouldn't fear them.
There's very easy ways that we can take care of

(31:52):
these overgrowths. But awareness is key too. It's the wild
Wild West out on like Instagram and social media because
one platform like TikTok, it's like everyone's talking about parasites.
But again, we can't also just go in and like
go on these intense killing regiments because it can be
dangerous once again, like if your drainage pathways aren't open,

(32:13):
or you know, you don't have the foundations or the
resourcing within your nervous system first to go through this process.
It's intense, and it can also when we're killing the bugs,
it can stir up a lot of intense emotions for
people because the bugs hold onto these fear frequencies, right,
so when we kill them, we feel the charge of

(32:35):
these old, unprocessed wounds and emotions. So you know, I
feel like we do need to build a capacity first
physically and emotionally before we go into these really intense endeavors.
But for me, my very first parasite cleansing protocol in
twenty fifteen completely healed my endometriosis one hundred percent. It
was insane. And the thing with me back then is

(32:58):
like it really with endo. It didn't help with everything
all at once, but the parasites kept returning, so I
wasn't I was like, Okay, I'm feeling better, I'm going
through these cleanses, but like I couldn't get rid of
the overgirls. So that's what really led me to the
root cause, thinking like, Okay, I actually need to also

(33:19):
instead of just killing the parasites, I need to address
all the reasons why my body is this like tox
success pool and is becoming so hospitable to these parasites
in the first place. And I have this wild experience.
I don't know if you want me to share this
emotional experience.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Sure, okay, because I want to say this first, because
you've made this connection and a couple things you said,
and I think this is such a beautiful conversation that's
starting to happen on a bigger level. But I've always
felt like emotions are so tied to what's happening to
us physically, and people don't seem to be connecting those dots. Still,

(33:55):
I think it's happening more, but they're so connected. I
truly believe that, And so I think that's what you're
about to tie together for us right absolutely.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
It is like everybody needs to understand exactly what you
just said. It's so true you could have the perfect diet,
ten step, perfect morning routine, do all the biohacks, you
could journal every day, but like, if you're really not
addressing those emotions that are ruling your physiology, it's emotions
are energy. Our body is made of energy. You're going

(34:26):
to struggle. We're going to continue to struggle. So the
light bulb moment for me, this was many years ago.
I was truly in like a dark night of the soul.
I was really struggling, and I wanted to just lean
on one of my trusted energy healers. At that time,
I didn't pursue a lot of energy healing, but I
did trust this woman, so I want to see her.

(34:46):
And it was just like any other energy healing session,
so I thought I was on her table, had some
cathartic releases, crying, shaking. Finish the session, there was a
lot of like cord cutting, and I felt a lot lighter,
so much more free. I hugged her, I thanked her.
I was like, thank you so much, Like that's that's
really what I needed today. All right. So I'm in

(35:08):
my car. I had an hour commute back home, and
I was like, oh my gosh, I have to go
to the bathroom so bad, I am not going to
make it like I'm not going to make it home.
I did make it home. I go to the bathroom,
I look down and there were thousands and thousands and
thousands of dead worms in the toilet. And there were

(35:39):
thousands and thousands and thousands of dead worms in the toilet,
if not tens of thousands, like round worms, liver flukes.
I was actually crying because it was like I just
discovered something so wild. I wasn't on a parasite cleanse.
I wasn't taking any killing herbs whatsoever. Like I just
went in for an energy healing session. I eliminated the

(36:02):
frequency in which these parasites were attracted to, and then
the parasites had no place anymore. It changed the way
I viewed my health. It changed the way I started
teaching literally everything. And I've had just way more success
with the women that I've been working with in the
past ten years since I had this experience. It's so wild,
and I know some people it might be a little

(36:25):
too woo woo, and it's okay, like you don't it's
not going to resonate for everyone at this time, but
this is not a unique story, so I was like, Wow,
this happened to me. This is crazy. At this point,
I've worked with over fifteen thousand women. I've guided over
fifteen thousand women in reclaiming vibrant health after years of
doing it all, trying all the right things. In this

(36:46):
story that I just shared happens to the majority of
my students. When we address our health from a physical, emotional,
and energetic lens, people are having these really wild releases
and experiences and healing conditions were condition to believe don't
have cures.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah. Well, and the interesting thing too that I love
that you tied the energy work into the big release,
and like, I think this way with cleanses as well.
Often the process is like it kind of gets uglier
or what we deem is uglier before it gets better.
And so like that experience, people might be like, oh,
I don't want to do that, but it's like, okay, Well,
the alternative is that it's living in your body and

(37:24):
sucking the life out of you. Or like sometimes after
big energy work like that, I'll have big crying releases,
like after the fact that feel like they came out
of nowhere and now I look at crying as such
a different thing. It's like an emotional shower, is what
I always say. And it's so just like it's a
gift because it's a big release. But we have labeled
crying as a negative in our society, and so it's like,

(37:47):
oh gosh, that must have been really bad that you
did that energy session because look, you're like crying the
day after, you know. So I think it's about also
shifting kind of some of the like things that we've
deemed as bad and good in our society and knowing
that it's like a part of the process. Like we're
so we just want the quick fixes, you know. So
there's no process in our life anymore. And I think

(38:08):
what you're describing as such a beautiful process of healing
that I love hearing about.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
I mean, I always tell my students, you live in
a slow cooker body, in a microwave society. We ehen
wants the quick fixes, and they do not exist. There's
not a magic pill there, truly isn't. And crying, like
you're saying when we're talking about our drainage pathways, crying
is emotional drainage. So it's not just the you know,
the colon and the liver and the lymphatic system. When

(38:36):
we are crying, it's actually releasing chemicals and hormones. So
you know, when you're in a really stressful situation and
then you just need a cry after to release, that's
actually how your body starts to shed all of the
excess stress hormones that were built up when you were
in fight or flight just a little bit prior. It's very,
very important, and we were kind of always taught to
suppress that as children. When we cry, people are like, no,

(38:59):
it's okay, don't cry, But it's like no, it's actually
a physiological response to clear all that survival energy. When
we don't clear it, it still exists within the body,
it builds up and it creates issues down the road.
So crying is beautiful, I said, well, it's.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Because I mean the other thing I noticed on like
reality TV shows, if I'm ever watching these dating shows,
one of the big things I notice. This is a
show I watch is Love Island and I love the UK.
Yeah it's so good. But in the UK, I think
I have a couple of friends from over there, and
they say, we don't do emotions big, you know, or
outwardly or whatever. And I've noticed on those shows when

(39:38):
a girl will start crying because she's upset by something
that's happening in the relationship, the instinct of everyone around
her is do not let him see you cry. Don't cry,
don't cry, don't cry. And I'm thinking to myself, but why, like,
why have we developed this as a weakness. It's actually
the most beautiful, bold, strong thing because we're allowing ourselves

(39:58):
to heal real time. That's how I look at it allis, yeah,
it's spot on. Let's move on, because I know we
were running out of time. And I really want to
talk about psilocybin because I love your approach with it,
and I've talked a bunch by listeners know I did
a big psilocybin journey with a shaman, like a couple
of years ago. Changed my life. It was a I

(40:19):
did a high dose. So what you have developed is
a company called Microflow, and it's all about microdosing. And
I'm very curious about this because I know what I
did is a little scary to a lot of people.
And so even when I'm describing the benefit that it
brought to my life and the mass amount of healing
even over time that it's given me. A lot of

(40:40):
people are like, yeah, but I could never do that
because it's scary because I was very much in a
trip like state. You know, it's very different. So tell
me a little bit about microflow and the company, how
it started, and then how you use it in combination
with some of this root cause stuff that we've talked about.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yes, absolutely, so I launched the company micro Flow in
twenty twenty two. And as you guys know, I've shared
all the things. I've been on this journey for a
really long time, and it kind of just seemed that
no matter how many things I did, like healed a
lot of conditions, but the perfectionism was still really ruling
my life. I was still struggling with eating disorders on

(41:19):
and off. I knew I needed to nourish my body,
but I also wanted to stay aside, like double double
double zero, right, Like, there were just these conditions that
I couldn't quite seem to overcome. So I started pursuing.
First of all, I researched psychedelic healing for probably seven
years before I even tried it myself. Finally, in twenty
twenty I got the ping one day. So it's only
been like five years and I'm living in an entirely

(41:42):
different reality than I was five years ago. But I
got the download to start micro dosing. I took my
first dose, and I had never been able to access
and this is a microdose. I had never been able
to access Bliss her joy like prior. I'm like, wow,
I've never felt this, other people like this on this planet.
It was like the first time where my thoughts weren't

(42:04):
consuming my every moment of my reality. It was the
first time it felt like my nervous system was able
to just exhale and surrender and be present and yes,
just actually hold Bliss in my body. And it was
so incredible. So my first three months of microdosing, I
completely healed a lifelong eating disorder. That's not even why

(42:27):
I pursued to start dosing, It just kind of happened
in the process. It really, you know, changed my relationships
the way I was able to well, of course, when
I can connect more authentically with myself, it was I
was able to connect more authentically with others and also
just see people for where they are in their journey.
I think for so long, like when I would have

(42:47):
issues come up in my marriage. The medicine acts like
a mirror, so it's showing me like, oh, the issue
isn't really with your partner, it's with how you want
your partner to show up instead of So it just
the medicine was so intell and I had all these
aha moments, and it really changed the entire blueprint of
my nervous system. I feel like my entire life I
lived in survival and scarcity, which was even showing in

(43:09):
my finances. At that time. I was six figures in
credit card debt, and I was able to quit my
personal training job and take this root cause healing business
full time, launched and built a seven figure business in
one year with the most soul aligned people ever. And
that's because finally I wasn't afraid to show up as myself.

(43:31):
And when I was showing up authentically, I started attracting
the right people who were meant for my work, and
it just really shifted absolutely everything for me. So for me,
I was like, if this can help me, someone who
is so health conscious, who's been doing all the things
in a matter that was so short, it was like
it basically bypassed everything else I was a breathwork facilitator

(43:52):
at the time. I was meditating, doing breathwork every day.
Like the psilocybin completely rewired my subconscious in every which way,
and I knew I needed to share this medicine with
the rest of the world. So I started creating my
own medicine, sharing it with just with like friends and
clients at the time, and everyone was having these experiences.

(44:14):
So I launched Microflow in twenty twenty two. I genuinely
believe that Microflow is the cleanest, purest, most high vibrational
microdosing supplements out there. Everything is organically grown, we are
third party lab tested. We don't use any preservatives or stabilizers.
Everything is raiky infused and just really high frequency and

(44:35):
beautiful and very very intentional, and it's just been completely
life changing for tens of thousands of people. We've had
thousands of customers be able to get off pharmaceuticals at
this point and just reclaim their fullest essence, their fullest
expression in life. So not only is this helping people
heal their physical body, it's bringing family units back together.

(44:59):
The medicine is wildly intelligent. So if we take it
back to what we are just sharing a little bit
ago about the emotional side. Many people are curious about
microdosing or psilocybin in general because of the effects it
has on mental health and cognition and mood, and those
are very very real. Like i'd say, we pursue like

(45:19):
a sparkle. So micro dosing doesn't make you high or altered.
You can drive, you can work, you can parent, but
it just brings this sparkle to your life. However, the
medicine is an illuminator, So in addition to illuminating these
really beautiful things of connection and bringing you back to
your heart and rewiring your life toward gratitude and just

(45:41):
actually starting to recognize all of the beauty and the
abundance that already really does exist around us that we
ignore all the time. As an illuminator, this medicine is
also going to illuminate the shadow. So psilocybin does a
really beautiful job of making the unconscious conscious, bringing the
shadow to light. And again, I know what you just said.

(46:04):
It can sound a little scary for people. However, with
the microdoses, it happens in micro shifts and it creates
this capacity within our nervous systems. We actually have the capability,
the threshold to be with these things. I don't believe
that we're given or shown more than we can handle
while we're microdosing. So that is beautiful too, because you know,

(46:26):
ninety seven percent of our reality is created by our
subconscious A lot of our health issues are created by
these subconscious wounds. And when we're saying the word subconscious,
that means it is below the level of our conscious awareness.
We don't know what exists, so we cannot heal what
we're unaware of. And this medicine kind of just serves
it to us on this beautiful silver platter. It's like,

(46:48):
here's the stuff that you didn't consciously recognize was happening within,
but it's been creating a lot of issues for you. You
actually now have the capacity. The medicine gives you the
capacity to be with these emotions rather than escaping them
like we typically have done in the past, and in
that space, we can come face to face and meet

(47:09):
these emotions with love, learn a lesson from them, alchemize them,
release them, and we are liberated. Right. It's like this
process just gets facilitated so quickly it is it's quite wild.
But the medicine isn't, of course, you know, a magic pill.
We do need to do the work with the medicine,
and you know, it's even more accelerated, of course, when

(47:31):
we've got our foundations in check and we're you know,
focusing on our nutrition and our minerals and our blood sugar.
But this is such a beautiful starting place for so
many people, and when you know, the whole topic of
nervous system dysregulation is really becoming a bit more mainstream,
which is wonderful. The psilocybin actually helps rebuild the damage

(47:54):
that's been done within our nervous system. It helps us
create new neural networks in the brain, in the bar
and reconnects all of the parts that had become separated
in the past through trauma. So everything starts communicating again
and once again, Like you know, Kelly, you did a
macro dose, which is incredible for so many people. Now,

(48:16):
I tend to deal with people who are more ill
and more sensitive, and I like to remind people that
an overwhelmed nervous system is very easy to overwhelm. So
while macro doses are so wonderful for people like Kelly,
for some people starting there can actually be quite destabilizing
because some people don't actually have the resourcing and the

(48:39):
nervous system yet to be able to hold and experience
that intense and then to be able to integrate it.
So starting small with microdoses can really help people build
that capacity within their system to you know, heal in
real time, integrate in real time, and then you know,
if they do want to pursue a bigger dose down
the line. I think microdosing can be a really beautiful

(49:01):
starting point. But Kelly's macrodos I'm assuming was somewhere between
like three grams and five grams. I'm not sure if.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
I actually don't even know because he mixed up some
potion and I just was like, I'm going all in
on this process. Everyone asked me what the dosage was.
It was high, That's all I know, because I had
to get up to go to the bathroom at one point.
This is the story I always tell people, And I
remember walking into my bathroom and the walls were like moving,
and I was like, oh, I'm tripping. I am straight

(49:29):
up tripping right now. But it's not this process of
like you're on drugs in like a recreational way It
was such an emotionally cathartic experience for me, and I
had a very similar thing of you about the Bliss piece,
in that I was brought back to all the love
in my heart and I remembered what I'm here for,

(49:51):
which is to love, to give and receive love, and
mostly to give. And it just literally I kept saying.
But at the end of it, like, I feel like
my heart could explode. I have some like it was
just like love, love that kept just coming to me.
But it came with two hours before of crying and
releasing and going through some harder things. But I think

(50:11):
what you said is exactly right. My nervous system probably
did have the capacity for that based on the other
work that I had been doing. However, I had been
stuck in a very addictive cycle in relationships, and it
was amazing to me. It wasn't overnight, but it was
this slow process after that of getting out of situations
and then starting relationships and dating again. And I've never

(50:36):
in my life had such a different experience. I mean,
I did a lot of work, and I could not
have imagined my nervous system having the capacity to handle
what I handle now, or like make the choices I
do without that experience. So it just kind of brought
me out of what I guess it was a rewiring
that I couldn't well rewiring.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Yeah, yes, it's fully rewires or subconscious And when you're
making those decisions with you know, not aligned relationships or
whatever it may be, that's because we're operating from our
trauma body. We're operating from survival. The brain in the
nervous system is wired for one thing, and one thing
only people don't get this. The nervous system is simply

(51:18):
wired for safety. But safety to the brain and nervous
system just means what's familiar, what's been repeated in the past.
So the microdosing helps us rewire out of those survival
states and we get to choose new pathways, and you know,
it happens. You know, it can happen really quickly with
a macro dose, but you know with microdosing, it can

(51:41):
happen in a matter like with me three months, like
my whole world changed. What I wanted to say about
the dosing is, you know, those large macro doses, so
if you were really tripping, it had to have been
at least three grams probably up to close to five grams. Yeah,
the microdosing we're working with about zero point one gram
per day, about four a week, so that's about one

(52:01):
thirtieth to one fiftieth of an actual trip doose. Just
to give some perception to people who might be thinking,
like that's scary. Sure, most of like I'd say, you know,
most of my our customers are working, professional people who
are parents and driving children around. So it's not something
that's going to produce any form of high or making

(52:22):
you altered. It actually just brings you back deeper into
a state of presence and wholeness, and it is just
so unbelievable. Now, the blends are for men and women. However,
I'm the first company on the market to create cycle
sinking microdosing blends for women. So we have a blend
that women will use in their follicular and ovulatory phases

(52:46):
of their cycle, and then another blend that you can
use in your luteal and menstrual phases of your cycle.
And it just helps bring you into the different natural
energetic states that we're supposed to experience throughout the course
of a month, and it helps us. So we are
working with the natural energies of our body then constantly
fighting against our body. So that is just such a

(53:06):
beautiful aspect is of microflow as well. But I'm so
so proud of it, and I feel like this is
where everything is going right now. We're in the thick
of this psychedelic revolution. You know, when I launched this
company in twenty twenty two, I could have never imagined
three years later that last night I was on live television,
I was on the news talking about psilocybinto mainstream audiences.

(53:29):
So people are really, you know, waking up to the
fact that, like we're in the greatest mental health crisis
on this planet. It's not going to be pharmaceuticals in
crisis hotlines in safe spaces that are going to save
the days. That's not working, right. We have to go deeper.
And this is you know, such a beautiful, healthy, natural,
promising solution for so so many people, and it's incredibly

(53:53):
safe as well. Well.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
I saw that Oprah had someone on her podcast last
week talking about this, and I was like, Okay, now
that it's definitely going mainstream. If Oprah's talking about it,
we're getting to the masses here. And I find it
very exciting. The other thing I would say to anyone
listening who finds it scary is like these practices have
also been around forever. If you start researching it, it

(54:17):
becomes actually highly disturbing. For me, it did at least
that they got so muted and called illegal and dumbed down.
And I mean not called illegal. They are some of
it is illegal, But like that to me now I
look at in such a different way because I'm like, oh,
it's because it can't make people a lot of money,
and I just think it's like we're in this phase

(54:38):
too of asking the questions about the bigger corporations, the
things we believe. This is a good one to research
on your own and make your own judgments about and
assessments and decide what's best for you, because I know
for me it was one of the most life changing experiences.
I believe that's what you're saying as well. So anyway,
and check out microflow because I want to start small.

(55:00):
This is a good if you don't want to go
all in like me, I'm just a big like, let's
just do this. So the Macria was good for me,
But I've also been interested in micro dosing in the future.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
So yeah, I'll send you a package.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Oh well great, don't have to tell Christy thank you
so much for being here. I feel like I could
talk to you all day, so we may just have
to have you back. Where can people find you? I
know we'll put the links for microflow and everything, but
where can they find you if they just want to
work with you in general, or have more questions, or
just want to follow along on your journey?

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Yes? Absolutely, thank you so much for having me too.
Best place to find me. I'm most active on Instagram,
so at it's Christy Nolt, and then I have another
page at microflow dot healing. And then my two websites
are where you can learn about my programs, my retreats,
my work, learn more about microflow so Christynault dot com
and microflow Healing dot com.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Amazing. I'll put that all in the description of this
podcast for you guys. Thank you so much for being
here with so lovely meeting you.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Thank you so much, Kelly, have a great day.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
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