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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
The protests in downtown LA have slowed down quite a bit,
but the LA City Controller, Kenneth Mahea, said over the
course of two weeks, the city spent more than seventeen
million dollars on protest related enforcement alone.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Much of the cost, of course, comes from law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Over time, another two million dollars two million spent on
labor costs for people who had to come in and
clean and repair following the protests, and it is not
complete by any means. Tyler Perry has been hit with
a sexual harassment and assault lawsuit. Tyler Perry has been
hit with a two hundred and sixty million dollar sexual
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harassment and assault lawsuit from an actor and screenwriter named
Derek Dixon. The lawsuit says that Tyler Perry promised Derek
Dixon career advancement during his time of sustained advances and
used his position of power to retaliate when they weren't reciprocated.
(01:08):
Tyler Perry's attorney said that Tyler Perry will not be
shaken down over fabricated claims. Uh, it's time for swampwatch.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Here we got.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
So what I'm not going anywhere? So now you.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Train the swap, I can imagine what can be and
be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 7 (01:42):
You know, Americans have always been gone at present They're
next stupid.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Whether people voted for you were not swamp Watch. They're
all counteroing.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
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Speaker 3 (02:06):
President Trump was asked today about what the United States
is going to do, if anything, when it comes to
offensive attacks on Iran.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
You don't know that I'm going to even do it.
You don't know I may do it, I may not
do it. I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do.
I can tell you this that Iran's got a lot
of trouble and they want to negotiate. And I said,
why didn't you negotiate with me before all this death
and destruction? Why int you negot I said to the people,
why didn't you negotiate with me two weeks ago? You
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could have done fine. You would have had a country.
It's very sad to watch this. I mean, I've never
seen anything like it. So you everyone thought it was
going to be the reverse. I didn't. I didn't think so.
And I was telling him you got to you got
to do something, You got to negotiate. And at the end,
last minute, they said, no, we're not going to do that,
and they got hit.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
He was also asked if Iran had reached out to
him about restarting these talks, and he said that they have,
in fact, that they wanted to come to the United
States and the White House and do these talks.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
The Iyatola has made his second public appearance since the
Israeli strikes began six days ago. This as Israel lifted
some restrictions on daily life, suggesting that the missile threat
from Iran was easing, but the Iotolas today rejected US
calls for surrender, warned that any military involvement by the
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Americans would cause irreparable damage to them. Now, there is
no question why Israel wants us at this party, and
it's because we have the technology and the bombs to
target what are very difficult to nuclear enrichment sites.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
To penetrate.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Destroying Iran's nuclear program, which is the end game, is
a very difficult feat if you are not America. It
requires because of the way that these bunkers are built,
it requires what only we have, the massive ordnance penetrator.
This is the thirty thousand pounds deep penetrating bomb that
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can only be transported by the B two because of
its weight. We're talking about when you look at one
of the most talked about plants, a fourdoh plant there
in Iran. It's built inside a mountain about three hundred
feet underground. It's reinforced by layers of concrete. It is
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probably the most likely target if we are to drop
that massive bomb, impenetrable by any bomb except the GBU
fifty seven, and we are the only ones that have
that weapon, as I mentioned, and we have the B twos.
So that's why Israel wants us is so eager for
us to be involved with this. A strike itself would
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not be a one and done job. According to military experts,
they say, you have two challenges. You have to drop
two of these penetrators at the exact same site, likely
needing multiple bombing rounds. This is according to David De Roche,
a professor and senior military fellow at the Near East
South Asia Center for Strategic Studies. He says, and then
you would never be precisely sure how much of the
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facility you've damaged. He says, that leads me to believe
that for those facilities, Israel would ultimately gain control of
the air and then landforces on the ground force their
way into the facility by detonating the doors, and then
go and place explosive charges just to lay the groundwork,
get whatever intelligence they can get.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
And detonate it. Try to detonate it from the inside.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
And they're clearly capable of infiltrating Iran. That was part
of the reason why it was so overwhelming Thursday night
into Friday morning, because they had MOSAD members on the
ground in Iran, specifically targeting some of the ballistic missiles
that would have been used in retaliation for the attack.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
As I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
If I know anything about Donald Trump, I think he
loves this option of using.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
A bomb that only we have, using the B two
that only we have. I think he would love that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Now if we were to do that, because of what
the Iotola has said about if we get involved in
this nature, it will be irreparable damage to America. You
can only deduce that they would immediately strike embassy's military
bases in that area. And then, of course any attack
on us in that area is attack on us at home,
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right and then and then it's open freaking season.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And is world War three?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
And it is World War three?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
How that doesn't How that doesn't Expand Russia has been
piping up about all of this as well. In fact,
the Russian foreign minister, the deputy foreign minister, is warning
the United States against even thinking about supporting Israel's attacks
on Iran. The deputy foreign minister, guy named Sergei Ryabkov,
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if you're keeping score at home, said that direct US
military assistance is a step quote that would radically destabilize
the entire situation in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
So all we need is Russia to start chirping about
this as well.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Boring but important.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
The Fed has left the interest rates unchanged, So the
Federal Reserve leaving interest rates unchanged marks the fourth straight
time the central banks have kept the rates steady. They're
going to remain high and hover between four and a
quarter and four and a half percent. What they see
is that inflation will worsen in the coming months, and
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still foresee two interest rate cuts by the end of
this year. This is the same thing they projected a
few months ago in March.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I made a crack earlier today about well, actually I
was talking with Blake from Trajan Wealth about when to retire,
and I said, I will retire when AI takes my job,
which is apparently sooner than I think. But Amazon CEO
is telling employees that AI is going to shrink the
Amazon workforce, sort of the first real loss of humans
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as a result of the increases the technological advances of artificial.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And cern only got very cold in here.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Talk about that. When we come back to Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
It is a what you watch in Wednesday. Let us
know what you're watching.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
It's the return of the documentary series on Netflix about
the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders America Sweethearts, that drops today. Season two.
That's what I'm excited about. Buccaneers is back on Deber.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Did you ever watch Bucks? No, but I did watch
the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader. Oh okay, I think Buccaneers is
or right up your asley?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Really?
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Oh yes, what's what platform is on Apple? Apple? Buccaneers?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Season two just started yesterday, and they do the way
they do that is you get one episode every week,
once a week, so you could catch up on season one.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Why is there a lot of sex in that?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
There's some.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
It's good, It's I think you'll enjoy it. Okay, I'm
in need, desperate need. I promise you'll like it. I'm
even going to go that far. I'm excited, all right.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
We were also taking comments about some of the worst
airports that you've ever gone through.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Oh my god, Shannon, Yes, the Denver Airport is horrible.
And what makes the DFW Airport better is just the
signs are clear. They have clear and precise, you know,
instruction as to where to go, where to be Denver.
Oh my god, they have these temporary signs and then
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people turn them around and.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
They're just never correct. Denver's horrible worst.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I also feel like walking through Denver Airport, no one's
showered that day, like there's a weird vibe in there.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Really where it's very little crunchy granola.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Yeah, super crunchy granola.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Andy jasse is the chief executive at Amazon and has
put out a memo that said he expects AI to
thin their ranks. Right now, Amazon is the second largest
employer in the United States, second largest private employer in
the United States, but Andy Jassey said in the next
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few years, we expect that this will reduce our total
corporate workforces. We get efficiency gains from using AI extensively
across the country.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
So what kind of jobs are we talking about.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Well, among other things, he's talking about inventory placement, demand forecasting,
like which products are going to sell, which ones they
need to stock up on. The efficiency of the robots
would be improved using artificial intelligence to perhaps review and
recode some of the programming for the robots. Previous waves
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of artificial intelligence and automation technology didn't really have very
much of an effect on employment. They did change some jobs,
They did eliminate some jobs. Think of the auto industry.
It's so dominated now by robots and some of those factories.
But that doesn't mean that they the robots also need
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somebody to care for them, care for them, somebody to
take care of them and fix them and repair them.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
See they're already in your breath, in my head.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
A recent drop in the number of computer programmers, though,
has prompted suggestions that AI may have broken that past
pattern that up until this point, technology didn't shove everybody
out of the workforce. Now that technology the way it exists,
especially when it comes to computer coding, is going to
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make humans less necessary. I mean, it would be us
to set the prompt of put together an AI algorithm
that makes my robots more efficient.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
But after that you just leave it up to the computer. Again.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Andy Jasse, Amazon CEO, said that an AI coding assistant
saved Amazon programmers forty five hundred years of work by
speeding up the task of upgrading the software.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And again, all you do at that point is tell AI.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I mean, it's not as simple as giving it the
prompt of improve my software, but that's the basics of it,
and it takes the load off of programmers and puts
it onto the computer. The company has performed some workforce
reductions this year. They said the books the device's team
have been closed. One Amazon employee noted that the layoffs
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and the attrition with that replacement have become norm at
Amazon in recent years.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I have a question, So when AI takes over our jobs,
what does that look like? What kind of infrastructure do
you need? If any? I mean you wouldn't the radio
station would still need Would it need a physical location?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well, you got to have a server.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You gotta have a little right, you can have a
server farm anywhere, sure, and then you could have all
the stations, and then you could Stephen King novel just
shut it all down, burn the whole thing down by
people addicted to meth, and then a dome comes over
your city, and then everyone under the domes on meth.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
You never read that one. That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
What is that called?
Speaker 6 (13:53):
I think it's called the Dome.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
How does Stephen King write all of these books? What
are the things that he imagines that he's even He's like, no,
that's well.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
And the fun thing is like he used to be
a total drunk, like he wrote, he wrote, I think
the shining like in a blackout.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
That's terrifying. Yeah, that lives in the recesses of his mind. Yeah,
conscious not positives to shining. But I'm pretty sure well a.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Lot of those, uh, even written in the blackout would
be weird.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Uh So when Ai takes over the re like the
best Blackout ever, I don't know about that because you
wake up and you're like, wait a minute, what did
I just write? Oh, just a bestseller forever. Yes, that
Fan Academy award financially sure, but who ever came up
with the first Saw movie, Sure they made money on it,
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but they got to live with the fact that that
came out of their own head.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Okay, so he said he did not write the entire
novel in a blackout.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
He was a struggle with alcoholism during the Shining Kujo.
He wrote during bouts of heavy drinking. He barely remembers
writing Kujo. Also, great movie if you're a child in
the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, that's fun. AI's coming for us.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
All.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Oh, that's a takeaway.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
We gotta do a regular segment of something like We're
one inch closer to the Computer's winning.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I just feel like AI has overtaken so much that
we don't even know about.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Uh yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Know, so many decisions that we make, so many choices
that we make that have been completely taken over.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And they were doing a.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Story this morning on The Morning Show about how people
rely on AI now to give them the news of
the day. Where you could type into Google or Chrome
or whatever your browser is, something like what are the
top headlines and AI will generate a response to that,
because so many of them are now using AI to
be their first top of the page kind of response.
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And he said, I don't get it. And then he
asked Siri what the top headlines of the day were,
and they pointed out, you're doing exactly, but you don't.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Think about it that way.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
He wasn't thinking about it as being artificial intelligence to
surmise what's going on in the world and give him
an encapsulated version of it. Oh yeah, we're unconscious of
it as it happens right in front of us.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Handle using Surrey is it's funny to.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Me matchmaker stories. When we come back, garyan Shannon will continue.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (16:47):
Federal Reserve officials expecting inflation to worsen in the coming months,
but they still foresee two interest rate cuts by the
end of this year.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
This is what they predicted in March.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Today, the Fed kept its key rate unchanged for the
fourth straight meet up. With the economy they say expanding
at a solid pace.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Not a lot going on in terms of the last
couple of hours when it comes to Israel and Iran,
at least not in the conflict itself. President Trump was
out in front of the White House today for the
installation of the big flagpole that he had promised, and
he did say that he's not going to talk about
what he would do, and he's not going to talk about.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
What he wouldn't do.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
No one's going to know what he does, is basically
what he said. The questions surround whether or not the
United States would get involved militarily in all of this
or just act as defenders. And in this case, we
know that there have been several military assets, including a
third aircraft carrier that is steaming towards that area just in.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
Case, just in case, we are talking about airports from Hell.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Airports from Hell.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Graphicking math through Denver had the walk from gay to gate.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
With product tapes in my leg. I got to the gate.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And it started leaking, burning bell crab out of my sack.
That makes a way quick question, go on, product tape
to my legs. That's drugs tape to his leg. Maths said, oh, math.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I missed the meth part and it started burning as balls.
Is that right? It's basically yeah, what kind of myth
are we talking about? Like liquid?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Me?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
What I have?
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Follow up question?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So I assume it's liquid, but I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
It makes That's just a bad way to transport your meth. Sir,
that's on you. Your ball burn is on you.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You should know better. All right.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Match Makers are in the news because of the new
well publicized what's called a rom com. I'm going to
push back on that. It's an A twenty four movie.
A twenty four doesn't do rams. I didn't find any calm.
There was a couple lines that made me smirk in
this movie because I saw it. I saw it on
Sunday night. The materialist says, the name with Dakota Johnson,
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and she is a matchmaker and here torn between a
wealthy suitor and her ex boyfriend who has no money,
and she lives in New York. And it's all about
math when it comes to who dates who, who ends
up with who. You know, you've got to be a
rich guy to pull a young pretty girl. And this
is all not breaking news for anybody. I say, it's
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more of a less of a rom com, more of
a rom realistic situation of the fact that dating is awful.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Dating is really hard.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Dating's really hard for specific groups of people, and this
movie highlights that fact. And I won't go into details,
but I think it's not a surprise that dating is
tough for women.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
In their thirties, late thirties, early forties.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It just is men that are of your age are
looking for younger in a lot of cases, if the
men are have money, even more so. Anyway, So this
matchmaker is kind of tasked with matching up people who
are of a certain means and can pay for a matchmaker.
This is a whole world that exists, high end matchmakers
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for people who have not met the one, and they're
throwing money at the problem, and in some cases it works.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Did you ever watch this, I don't remember what it's called.
The show.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Patty million Dollar Matchmaker. She was based out of la
at least at the inception of the show. I remember
watching it, and yeah, same kind of thing where she
would her clientele. From what I remember, and this is
what now twenty years ago, her clientele would be men
who make a lot of money and don't have a
lot of time to sift through the fish in the sea,
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and she would find young women and she.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Would rebrand them.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Sometimes she would shush them up, she would give them makeovers,
all the things that made these young women appealing to
the guy with money. It was as dirty as it
sounds in this uh, in this description. But sometimes it worked.
Most often it did not. I think men sometimes think
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that they want a younger woman, or you know, someone
who's beautiful and young and things, and then you don't
think about all the idea of it sounds perfect, but
then you don't think about all of that.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
What comes with all of that, that's you.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
The idea of going to museums sounds good to a
lot of people, but once they get there, they get bored.
Right the museum what they thought it was going to be.
If you're looking for a younger pert, whoever you are,
and you're looking for that younger person. If you go
too young, it's not what you're looking for. I mean,
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I guess there's different people are gonna have different ideas
of what it is that they actually want out of
their sex is.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Great for a couple of months, but you don't want
to end up with this person.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I don't want to actually talk to them.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Could you imagine good lord twenty six year old?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
No, but that's I think part of the issue is that.
And maybe this is where the matchmaker portion of it
comes in. People don't know what it is that they're
looking for.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You may tell the.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Matchmaker I want a twenty four year old who's athletic
and smart and gorgeous, and then the matchmaker's like, yeah,
but you're fifty four. That's maybe let's pump the brakes
on the whole three decade difference thing.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
That's basically the idea of the movie is exactly what
you're saying. It's a guy who's fifty four or forty
eight or whatever, and those are the descriptors he uses
of what he wants fit, which means thin, right, fit, pretty, gorgeous, nice.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
It's never like.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Has knowledge about nineteenth century when I mean, yeah, likes
to try pickleball wants to adventure Thai restaurants in the city.
It's never about things that you're going to have day
to day. It's like they want the And this is
as long as humans were around, like the idea of
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something nice to look at and have sex with.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I made a person who is picky about who she
wants to date, which is fine. I have zero problem
with being picky. She's busy, she's like I have zero.
I also don't want to put pressure on her, like
you got to find somebody to do what you want.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
I to say, stick to your ick.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
If you're feeling the ick at every turn with dudes,
feel it, don't settle. Don't be like, oh, I guess
it's okay if he does not betting. Oh I guess
it's okay that he's a mouth breather, or I guess
it's okay that you know he hits me once in
a while. Don't make because it's a slippery slope, Like
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you start making concessions, and it doesn't always end a
domestic violence, but start making concessions, you start lessening your own.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Self worth, and we shouldn't do that. I don't think
I'd rather.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Be I'd rather be alone than with somebody for the
sake of not being alone.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Ignore a bunch of stuff that bothers me.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Good couple things. Let us know what is the worst
airport you've ever used? And what you're watching this? In fact,
you should take a couple of weeks off. I will
soon now that you mentioned it. See if my vacation
request has been approved.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
It'd be nice to be alone and not know where
all the stuff I have to ignore?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Oh, I see, it's just kidding.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
It's a fun joke for us.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
The latest, by the way, a story that we've done
and had. We were just asking about it the other day.
Whatever happened to that big jewelry heist? Well they've arrested
seven people. We'll talk about that when we come back
to Gary and Channing.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
You're listening to Gary and Channon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Where did the day go? Do you know it's already
June eighteenth. I'm gonna say all the stupid things.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You can do it Jimmy Carter reference while you're in it. Wow,
that was It's.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Supposed to be inside your head.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
This AI stuff it's getting weird, like your AI is
saying things that you would normally think in your head.
But AI doesn't have a filter. So what's happening with
you is things that you usually keep inside are coming
out of your mouth.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
That's an excellent thame.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
You stick with me. I've done this my whole life.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Bad airports. We'll let you know what some of the
worst airports are in the world thanks to you when
we get in the twelve o'clock hour.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Ps in that vein.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
The State Department is warning Americans about travel to Europe
now as anti tourism activists have taken to the streets.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
We talked about this yesterday in Spain.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Bartholona, Venice, Italy, locals have been marching using water guns
on tourists.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
And oh, we've got a verdict in the Karen Reid trial.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Oh my goodness, this is only Is this the third
day of deliberations?
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Oh my goodness? This okay? Well, depending on.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Who you ask.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
I just got chills.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I gobbled up the documentary on HBO about this trial.
This is the woman who in Boston, forty years old
at the time, is dating this Boston cop John O'Keefe
I think is his name, And they're out with friends
to drinking. These two are known to have a volatile
type of relationship and they get into it a little bit.
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This is after they left the latest bar and they're
headed to a friend's house and they have some sort
of fight at the driveway inside the car. It's a
stormy night, it's snowing anyway, he takes his drink, he
leaves the car, and she's pissed off. She's texting him
and then she takes off. Well the next morning he's
found dead in the snow with his drink nearby by
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the way. And what happened to John O'Keefe. He's got
weird injuries. Are they consistent with the States case that
she was so pissed that she ran into him with
her car before she took off from the house, Or
did he get into it with his cop buddies inside
because they were all drunk and something happened where he
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ends up outside in the snow and he passes out
or whatever and freezes to death. Those are the two
narratives that were pedaled to the jurors both in the
first trial and this trial. You've heard for the jury
heard from people who were in the house, they heard
from first responders, they heard from crime scene people that
talked about were his injuries consistent with a fight a
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dog bites was one of the ideas, or was it
consistent with her backing up with her SUV running into
him and leaving him with injuries that would lead to
his death there in the snow. She is a very
unlikable defendant. She comes across like she's better than everyone.
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During the first trial, she was taking pictures. There's so
much publicity around this trial that you've got both camps.
You've got the pro law enforcement camp outside and then
you've got the pro Karen Reid women who wear these
bright pink T shirts.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
There are hundreds of them outside this courthouse in Debta, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It has gotten a huge public response. It's gotten all
the true crime talking heads talking about it ever since
before the first trial began. And so what happened at
the lasts one was it was a mistrial. I don't
remember what the jury breakdown was, but they were not unanimous.
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And now we've got a verdict just and this was
one of those stories you can't get away from it.
If you're in Boston. It's everywhere like you said, the
mobs of people turn up every day they wear their
bright pink T shirts or whatever to the grocery store.
Side note, Karen Reid doesn't wear pink. She hates pink.
She's one of those women like myself where's black every day.
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But anyway, they took pink as her color, and you know,
they're out and they're proud about it, and they'll go
after each other online. It's a very dedicated camp, depending
on which camp you're in.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
There were a series of questions that were asked yesterday,
yes yesterday, of the judge, by the jury.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
They were still unable to come to that decision by
the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
She didn't get along with a lot of his cop buddies,
and that's kind of the whole crux of the that
his buddies pinned this on her from go that you know,
whatever happened after she left that house, that they knew
something went wrong, they knew there was a fighter, the
dog got involved or whatever, and they said, well, let's
pin it on that be And there were text messages.
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There was actually another angle to this one where she
had this flirtatious text relationship with one of her dead
boyfriend's friends cops who was part of the friend group
where they're texting back and forth. He's like, I think
you're hot and she's like I do too. It's all
very uncomfortable and it was all read in court. So
there's a variety of little motives going on there about
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why you would want they would want to lie about
what happened to John O'Keefe that night.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Weird stuff, and again they have crowds have gathered outside
this courthouse, the Norfolk Superior Court in Dedham, Massachusetts, as
a verdict has been reached in the Karen Reid murder retrout.
We'll come back, we'll break in if we get any
information from Outam, Massachusetts in that case.
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