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April 21, 2025 40 mins
Amy King hosts your Monday morning Wake Up Call. ABC News correspondent Jordana Miller joins the show live from Jerusalem to discuss a new round of talks on Iran’s nuclear program. Author and futurist Kevin Cirilli joins the show to talk about what the future has in store for us. ABC News reporter Jim Ryan discusses a measles outbreak prompting a shift in vaccination guidelines and the passing of Pope Francis. Bloomberg Media’s Dan Schwartzman shares the latest in business and Wall Street. The show closes with Amy talking with ABC News national correspondent Steven Portnoy about SCOTUS blocking deportations under the Alien Enemies Act.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's time for your morning wake up call.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Here's Amy King.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Well, good morning, it's five o'clock straight up. Welcome to
your Monday morning wake up call. It is April twenty first,
of course, the day after Easter. Hope you had a
nice weekend. We're wakemup to news that Hope Francis has died.
Kind of a sad thing, although you know what I

(00:49):
will say, eighty eight years it's a good run. A
lot of people don't get that one. Here's what's ahead
on wake up call. As I just mentioned, the Pope
has died. The Vatican announced the death of Pope Francis
early this morning, after he made a surprise appearance from
the balcony of Saint Peter's Basilica on Easter Sunday. Pope

(01:11):
Francis was eighty eight. ABC's Jim Ryan's going to join
us at five point thirty five with the latest. As
a billion Catholics around the world say goodbye to the
leader of their church. La Mayor Karen Bass will deliver
her State of the City address today at City Hall.
Her office says she'll be talking about wildfire recovery, a
nearly billion dollar budget gap, the homeless crisis, public safety,

(01:33):
and how federal policies are impacting city business. Several trees
in downtown LA have been cut down, apparently by vandals
using chainsaws. The trees were cut down on several streets
over the weekend. LA Mayor Bass's office as the city's
trying to figure out who did it, assess the damage,
and get new trees planted quickly. Also coming up on

(01:56):
wake Up Call, the US and Iran have held another
round of talks. ABC's Jordana Miller's going to tell us
if they made any progress on a deal to prevent
Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. On again, off again.
Deportations are on hold again. ABC Stephen Portnoy's going to
join us before the top of the hour to tell
us about the Supreme Court's latest decision. And here's one

(02:17):
for you. Ever wonder if the future is going to
be like a Terminator or the last of Us, or
is it going to be more like Meet the Robinsons. Well,
we're going to be talking with an author and futurist,
Kevin Sirilli. That's coming up at five point twenty. Looking
forward to that, let's get started with some of the
stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom.

(02:46):
Bells have told across Rome following news from the Vatican
that Pope Francis has died. He was last seen yesterday
on Easter Sunday, blessing the faithful from the balcony of
Saint Peter's Basilica and driving in an open car through
the assembled crowd in Saint Peter Square. Father James Martin
says there is a lot of sadness.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Today but also great till gratitude for all he was
able to accomplish, and then also this understanding of how
hard he pushed himself, particularly at the end. This was
a very holy man and a very hard worker.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
At the same time, the Pope spent more than a
month in the hospital earlier this year because of respiratory problems.
He had double pneumonia. Pope Francis was eighty eight. Vice
President Vance met with the Pope at the Vatican yesterday.
Bossion as, how are you find yourself out to her?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
There?

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Ethic you can have mister to your father Vanci's. His
heart goes out to the millions of Christians around the
world who loved the pope. French President and Menuel Montcralin
says Francis always sided with the most vulnerable and the
most fragile, and said a great pain would be felt
in France and around the world. Israeli President Isaac Herzog
called Francis a man of deep faith and boundless compassion

(03:57):
who fostered ties with the Jewish war world. La Mayor
Bass is about to break down her budget plan for
the city.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Maribas is set to deliver her State of the City address,
where she's expected to outline her plan to tackle a
nearly one billion dollar budget shortfall. She'll also unveil her
twenty twenty five twenty twenty six budget, which may include
laying off more than fifteen hundred city workers and cutting
vacant jobs. The city faces mounting challenges from slowed housing
construction and a struggling entertainment industry to fall out from

(04:26):
the Palisades fire. Heatherbrooker KAFI News.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
We'll have the details on the state of the city
addressed throughout the day right here. On KFID space supposed
to happen about noon. Police have shot and killed a
man who appeared to have shot at a police helicopter
in Resita. LAPD Sergeant Bruce Borihan says officers responding to
an assault with a deadly weapon call yesterday run.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
Into this apartment complex behind us here on Victory Boulevard.
Sometime in that when the suspect was in that apartment complex,
the airship was overhead and reported that that suspect actually
fire appeared to fire at leadership.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Police confronted the man in the rear alley of the
apartment complex a short time later. That's when the shooting happened.
Time to say good morning too. ABC's jordonah Miller, Good morning, John, Jordana.
I'm curious we're going to be talking about Iran in
the US, but is there any response from Israel on
the passing of Pope Francis this morning?

Speaker 7 (05:22):
Well, Israeli officials from the president on down are putting
out statements, you know, you know, wish saying they're expressing
their condolences over the death of the Pope. The President
of Israel, Isaac Hert Hertzog called him, you know, a
great man who dedicated his life to the poor, to

(05:45):
the needy, and to really developing interfaith relationships with Jews
and other religious minorities.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Remember the community.

Speaker 7 (05:57):
Here, the Christian community here in in Jerusalem, the Catholic
community is very small, and it's been dwindling for a
few decades, and that has made it ever more reliant
on Rome and the Pope and the tension from the
from the Vatican. So they are there's a lot of
grief from local clergy, the representatives of the Vatican, as

(06:21):
well as the faithful here. So it's a somber day
for Jerusalem, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, all right, thanks for that update, Jardana. Okay, so
the reason that we're talking this morning was because Iran
and the US have held another round of talks on
Iran's nuclear program. Where were the talks and did anything
come out of them?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
The talks were held in Rome.

Speaker 7 (06:47):
We don't know a lot of the details, but we
do know that the United States and Aron are saying
that progress was made. There are already h you know,
intentions to talk again in about another week. And those
are all very good signs because remember before before these

(07:09):
talks began, just a couple of weeks ago, Iran was
really flip flopping on whether they would actually be interested
in talks, right, And there were semantics about whether these
were direct talks, whether they were indirect talks. Because Oman
is there also as a mediator. I don't think that
matters as much as the fact that the sides are

(07:29):
talking and now they say they're going to work on
carving out a framework for this deal. We know what
some of the big issues are going to be, even
though we don't know the details. So, for example, will
President Trump and the United States give a Ron a
certain percentage to which they can enrich uranium? Right under

(07:54):
the former deal with President Obama they could enrich just
over three percent, right, Will that be the case again
or will some say geranium at all? And what will
happen to the There's a lot of enriched material up
to sixty percent, right that Aron did in kind of

(08:14):
defiance of the international community, which is just a step
away from weaponized levels around ninety percent. What's going to
happen to all of that in rich uranium? Is it
going to be destroyed? Is it going to be given
to a third party?

Speaker 8 (08:26):
Right?

Speaker 7 (08:27):
Another big question is the length of this deal. Will
it be in place for twenty years, twenty five years,
thirty years. We know President Trump and others were very
critical of what many considered the kind of short sunset
clauses on the Obama deal. You know that it would
have been in place for just ten years, twelve years,
thirteen years. So how long this deal will be you know,

(08:51):
will be you know, in force. That's another issue that
we'll be discussed.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Sounds like they have a lot, a lot to work out, right.

Speaker 7 (09:03):
And it's not.

Speaker 9 (09:03):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
I don't think it's a deal that is going to
be hammered out, you know, in a month. You know,
it's going to take some time.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah. And do they have plans to meet again?

Speaker 9 (09:14):
They do.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
The plan is to meet again, I think this coming weekend,
though we're not sure what the where the location is.
It was you know again the last round was in Rome,
but Death of thely to be Rome again. But we'll
we'll have to see. I think we have to recognize

(09:36):
that Iran is in a very vulnerable and weak position
and so despite all of their threats, and we're not
going to do this, and we're not going to do that.
And we'll retaliate to see Americans bomb US. You know,
Iran really there, they have to negotiate with the United
States if they want the regime, the Iranian regime led

(09:57):
by the Supreme Leader, to survive, because otherwise they're really
putting the regime at risk, right if there's an attack
or really tight sanctions that bring the economy down. I mean,
Ron has its back against the wall.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Okay, all right, well we will be watching. Thank you
for giving us that insight, so we know what they're
at least starting to talk about. And we'll be following
this one, all right, jordanah Miller, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Namy.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
All right, take care. Let's get back to some of
the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom.
The Supreme Court has temporarily blocked the Trump administration from
deporting more Venezuelans, it says are criminal gang members. Hundreds
of men from Venezuela and El Salvador have already been deported,
including Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who the government says was deported

(10:44):
by mistake, but one of his tattoos is gang related.
Borders are Tom Holman says it's a legitimate claim.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
You can't ignore tattoo.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
That's one more factor that leads you to believe maybe
the gang member.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
It's just not based on tattoos. It's based on a
lot of other things, but tattoos.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Many Wellman says, no one is removed just because of
a tattoo, so there is more to it. Democrats are
calling for the resignation of Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth following
reports of a second chat on the Signal app where
sensitive information was discussed. ABC's Lewis Martinez says this one
included flight schedules for the fighter jets involved in a

(11:20):
military attack against the Huties in Yemen.

Speaker 10 (11:23):
We've confirmed from two people familiar with the chat that yes,
the Pete Hegseth actually used his personal phone to set
up this signal chat originally during the confirmation process. It
included some family members like his wife, like his brother
who works out the Penagon, and his personal attorney who
now works at the Pentagon as well.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
The White has dismissed the report yesterday as a non story,
insisting that no classified information was shared. Charles wrapping up
in Arizona in a conspiracy case against a woman already
convicted along with her husband of killing her two children
in Idaho. Laurie Valo dabl is on trial, this time
for allegedly conspiring to mur or her estranged husband. ABC's

(12:02):
Jorene Shaw says day Bell's expected to rest her case
today without calling any witnesses.

Speaker 11 (12:08):
Mari has maintained she is not guilty, instead claiming her
brother Alex killed Charles Valow in self defense. Alex not
around to tell his version of the story because he
passed away shortly after from natural causes.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Dabell is acting as her own attorney. Closing arguments are
expected this week. Oakland has a new mayor elect. Former
Congresswoman Barbara Lee has defeated former Oakland City council member
Lauren Taylor, who conceded the race on Saturday. Seventy eight
year old Li says she's grateful for her support.

Speaker 12 (12:39):
Thank you first of.

Speaker 13 (12:40):
All, and we love Oakland right, We love in Oakland right.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Lee takes the job after the recall of former Oakland
mayor Sheng Tao, who faces federal corruption charges. Okay, so,
girls in space just not going away. Katy Perry and
Lauren Sanchez and Gail King and a few others all
went up and did their space thing and then talked
about how they are changing the world with their with
their three minutes of weightlessness backlash, and yeah, the backlash

(13:10):
isn't going away. I thought, you know, it's gonna be
kind of flame out really quickly. But then I was
on Instagram and found this.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Tell me, did you guys have a lot of fun?
Do you finally realize and understand how much of haya
Old Chicks careers off?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Fade?

Speaker 6 (13:29):
Cantie?

Speaker 1 (13:30):
How completely?

Speaker 12 (13:31):
Don't you are.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Too much too hot?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Just moart out of.

Speaker 9 (13:37):
Celebrities folk love yourself, nobody came, nobody care.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
It goes on for a lot longer than that. And
I don't think he needed to make the comment about
the Old chicksen but because I think Katy Perry's still
kind of rocking it right right, Okay? Anyway, Uh, it's
probably it fade away. Yeah, it hasn't yet. In his
last appearance to the faithful, Pope Francis waved to the
crowd from the balcony of Saint Peter's Basilica. The Pope

(14:09):
gave the crowd his blessing and wish them happy Easter.
The Vatican announced the Pope's passing early this morning, Pope
Francis was eighty eight. Senator Chris Van Hollins's all Americans
are threatened if the deportation of a man living in
Maryland is allowed to stand show. Hey, Otani has rejoined
the team after a brief paternity leave. The Dodgers superstar
and his wife Welcome to baby Girl. On Friday. Otani

(14:32):
went over three in his return yesterday, with walking a
strikeout in the Dodgers one nothing win over Texas. Let's
say good morning now to author and futurist Kevin Surially.

Speaker 9 (14:43):
Good morning, Kevin, Hey, thanks for having me. How's your
future going these days?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, you're gonna tell us.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Are you?

Speaker 9 (14:55):
Are you? Are you polite to your artificial intelligence? When
you talked to Siri and elect so, do you say
please and thank you?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I do not have a good relationship with Siri.

Speaker 9 (15:06):
Do you want to talk about it? Why not? What's
going on with you in Siri?

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well, she and I are not on speaking terms because
I used to ask your questions and she always gave
me stupid answers, and so I just don't talk to her.

Speaker 9 (15:19):
Alexa and well, I respect that you guys are fine. Okay,
So sixty seven percent of Americans. And I write about
this on me to Future, about subsec dot com. But
sixty seven percent of Americans say that they are polite
to their artificial intelligence. Now why because some folks are
just doing it because they think that they should be
nice to AI and it's good manners cultural, I guess.

(15:40):
But the others are in the back of their mind
they're concerned about like a robot uprising that somehow if
AI comes back or is able to beat humans, that
they're going to somehow. Remember who said please and who
said thank you? But Sam Altman, he's the CEO of
Open AI with Jones Chatchipt, he said, stop being so
polite to our official intelligence. Stop it because it's costing

(16:03):
tens of millions of dollars in electricity. So all of
these Americans who are writing these very nice questions or
asking very nice questions, the brain of AI is just saying,
get to the point. Already, artificial intelligence is run on electricity,
and these data centers that America is building all across
the country is really taking shape, and a lot of

(16:26):
its power by nuclear energy, by the way. But these
data centers, we're in the middle of an electrical revolution
because of how much Americans are now relying on artificial intelligence.
So stop saying please and thank you.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Okay, because stop saying please and thank you or you're
going to have blackouts.

Speaker 9 (16:42):
Correct. Yeah, well that's the very you know, exactly. Yeah,
that's the extreme version of it. And I think when
you look at just from a modern standpoint and where
this is all headed the humanoid robotic space, which of
course is the next competition between the United States and
China and the digital frontier. Over the weekend, there were

(17:04):
twenty one humanoid robots that ran in the Beijing half marathon,
but only six of them finished the time. The fastest
robot finished the half marathon in two hours and forty minutes, which,
by the way, is very slow. The average age of
a seventy year old running half marathon is two hours
and forty minutes, so it's not that fast. But I

(17:26):
think this is cheating. And I don't know how you
feel about this, amy, but they changed their battery three times,
So you don't get to change your battery when you
run a half marathon if you're a human let alone
takes steroids. So why is it that a humanoid robot
gets to change their battery and somehow still get to finish.
I think the Chinese Communist Party is cheating with these robots.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Okay, I want to know about the ones that didn't finish.
Did they just run out of gas, juice, whatever? Or
do they follow over what happened?

Speaker 9 (17:53):
Just fell out and collapse? Can you imagine they sell
over busted, thud dead?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Okay? So, Kevin, because you're a futures so you study
things that are going to happen. And I was Kno
brought us back with music from Back to the Future,
and I was kind of laughing about that because all
this stuff that they did in nineteen eighty whatever, and
when they said, here, we're in the future in twenty
twenty five, we actually have some of that stuff now.

Speaker 9 (18:23):
It's pretty cool, and I think you're absolutely correct. I mean,
I'm a millennial and I'm a part of the last
generation that can remember life before the Internet. Gen Z
is the last generation that can remember life before artificial intelligence.
Folks that are born today are candidly the last generation
that we'll remember life before quantum computing, which is going
to make AI look like a calculator from your TI

(18:45):
eighty three and geometry class in high school. But I
interviewed Major General Gagnad, who was one of the top
generals at the United States Space Force. I interviewed them
last month at the National Press Club, and I said,
what do you want folks to know about outer Spacebviously,
this is before Katie Perry's eleven minute flight with Gail
King up to the space and he said that space

(19:07):
security is national security and economic security. And I really
dug down on that because the average American most folks
don't know this. This will blow your mind. The average American
interacts with space more than two dozen times per.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Day and we don't know about it.

Speaker 9 (19:24):
Right, you don't even know an amy. I mean it's
everything from your phone to your computer, to your emails.
I mean everything is run via the satellites. So protecting
that space domain is just completely imperative. America of Force
turns two hundred and fifty years old next year, and
I said, where is America General in two hundred and
fifty years from now? He know what he said, beyond

(19:45):
the moon And that just kind of blew my mind
as well, because all of this is headed towards expanding
human presence, not just or beyond planet Earth with the
intention of protecting the planet as well.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Okay, so well we're not going to be around for that,
so let's look into our near future. Like what give
us some like some of your predictions of things that
we should expect to see in the next ten years.

Speaker 9 (20:10):
Well, I think driverless cars. You're already starting to see
that on the road. Have you seen one yet driving
driver less cars?

Speaker 1 (20:16):
We have them in La so.

Speaker 9 (20:19):
Exactly, so I think that's going to be way more common.
I think you're going to be seeing space jets that
are able to land and then drive more private the
private aviation space won't look out for that. So if
you are on a private jet, I don't fly private,
but for folks who do, they be able to land
and then drive to their destination. But I also think

(20:41):
speed in slight and speed and train is going to
get a lot faster as well. Hypersonic flight could be
something that comes in our lifetime. Quantum computing in our
lifetime to really be able to solve complex diseases and
find cures. That's something that really interests me. But space,
the space economy, space apply chain, the way that the

(21:02):
chemicals and properties here on planet Earth, and the chemistry
behind making cures for diseases is different than the chemistry
up and outer space. So you're already seeing some health
companies send things up via satellites to cook medicine for
lack of a better analogy, and then it comes back
on Earth and you're able to solve diseases. So that

(21:22):
really is interesting as well, not to mention mining the Moon,
mining Mars, all of that is really happening as we speak.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Okay, So, Kevin, one last question, because I know we
got to let you run, but most movies TV shows
that show the future show a really dystopian future. It
doesn't look great.

Speaker 9 (21:39):
Thank Is that all possible?

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Or are we going to have a bright future?

Speaker 9 (21:44):
Yes, we're absolutely. I mean, listen, I don't know about you,
but I don't want to live in a world without
the Internet or GPS or uber or my iPhone. So
at the end of the day, I mean, technology is good.
It's all how we use it and it's what we
make it so people don't have to be worried.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Okay, all right, well, thank you so much, Kevin Thrillly.
I would love to talk to you more. Unfortunately we're
out of time, so maybe maybe we'll do it again.
But appreciate your time this morning, love taking a little
look into the future.

Speaker 9 (22:13):
Thank you for having me. Have a gret day, all right.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Take care. Pope Francis has died. The Vatican announced his
passing this morning, hours after he appeared before a crowd
of thousands celebrating Easter Sunday at Saint Peter's Basilica. The
Trump administration has asked the Supreme Court to allow deportations
to continue under the Alien Enemies Act. The Supreme Court
proved an emergency request from the ACLU early Saturday to

(22:37):
pause the act that allows suspected Venezuelan gang members to
be deportive. We're going to be talking more about that
with Steven Portnoy in about fifteen minutes. Chinese e commerce
sites Tmu and Sheen say they're raising prices. They say
the increases, which going to effect April twenty fifth, are
a ripple effect of President Trump's tariffs. Tariff's on Chinese

(22:58):
products imported to the US are a upping one hundred
and forty five percent, sometimes higher at six so five.
A handle on the news. The latest call for the
Secretary of Defense Pete HEGs death to be removed from
his office. Take a look at that right now, let's
say good morning to ABC's Jim Ryan. So, Jim, we
got the news this morning when we woke up that

(23:19):
Pope Francis has done.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (23:21):
The message read like this, Samy. At seven thirty five
this morning, the Bishop of Rome, Frances returned to the
Home of the Father. Was seven thirty five Vatican time
this morning overnight here in the United States, and now
begins this process of choosing the next Pope. Francis had
been in that position for the last twelve years, had
moved the church kind of to the left, you know.
He embraced the disenfranchise of the world, the homeless, the refugees, migrants, others,

(23:50):
the poor, and much to the chagrin I think of
a lot of traditionalists inside the church, he also sort
of reached out to the LGBTQ plus community. When someone
asked him about a gay priest, he said, who am
I to judge? And I think people read a lot
into that. So a real legacy that was, in papal terms,

(24:11):
relatively short twelve years. I mean, look at John Paul,
he was in there for thirty something like that. So
now we'll see where this process goes, but it will
take a long time and there's a lot of ceremony
to come between now and the choosing of the next pope.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Amy.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Well, and the good news is we all just watched
conclaims that we're very familiar with the process.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (24:30):
Great, if you haven't seen it, it's really I mean,
it's fiction and it's it's a story, but it does
offer I think, something of a look inside this process
of choosing posts. Course, nobody really knows what happens except
the seventy odd cardinals who gathered to participate in that.
But it is always a gas. But it is an
educated guess. So if you haven't seen it, see it.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Okay, So I have a question for you about because
I am not Catholic, I'm Lutheran, but I know that
there's about a billion, well one point three nine billion
Catholics around the world. What does the pope actually do?
Does he set church policy? Is he more of a figurehead?
You know?

Speaker 14 (25:10):
Well, yeah, and he sets a tone as much as
anything else.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
You know.

Speaker 14 (25:14):
He sits there issuing statements and proclamations and eat aches
all day long, and those filtered down to the churches,
to the parishes, to individual priests and church members. But yeah,
I mean there is a concrete policy that comes with
that too. He was responsible for some of the investigations
into child abuse allegations within the church. There's a lot

(25:38):
of administrative stuff that comes with it. So while he
is the figurehead of the Catholic Church, there are some
administrative duties that go with that. It's a big job,
and he didn't take any time off, and I think
it was remarkable. People were shocked that he was in
the hospital for five weeks, came close to death several times,
eventually was discharged and was well enough to appear at

(26:00):
the Easter ceremony yesterday. I mean, the holiest moment in
the whole Christian calendar, and he was right there to participate.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, it's sort of like you know what, you know
how some people like say, I'm going to make it
to this birthday or something like that. Yeah, Easter's the
big one for Christians, so well it is. Yeah, so
I think, yeah, but I mean, wow, an amazing life.
And so we get first of all, we get nine
days of mourning, yes, and then they're going to have
a big funeral.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yes.

Speaker 14 (26:28):
The large funeral. I think something like two weeks here
the key dates, so you know, after this nine day
period of mourning, the funeral comes to seventy cardinals. Seventy
cardinals from around the world will be traveling there. Between
day four and day six the funeral comes. Then between
seven and fifteen days preparations for the conclave, and then

(26:52):
at some point, maybe next month sometime, we will have
the white smoke coming from the chimney there at the
in the choosing of a pope.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, there's and there's so many movies about about that
that I feel like I know about the white smoke,
you know, between conclave and then there was the Dan
Brown movies. Is it Angels and Demons that had that
one or I can't remember which one it was, but
there was a couple that are really centered around rug
the pope and replacing the pope.

Speaker 14 (27:19):
I mean there's there. Take them all. I suppose they
are fiction. They are out of someone's imagination, but you know,
they may give us an inside glimpse of what happens there.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yep. All right, ABC, Jim Ryan, thanks so much for
the information. We'll talk to you soon. All right, it
is time to get in your business with Bloomberg's Dan Schwartzman.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Good morning Dan, Good morning Amy. How are you.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
We're doing good, doing good today? So I am looking
for your notes because I put Oh they're there. Okay,
let's get in your business with Google and the Justice Department.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, oh is Amy will be on the Washington court
room today lawyers for both Google and the Justice Department.
They're can be facing off now. The government has accused
the tech chine of turning its popular search engine into
a monopoly, leading to the Department seeking to force the
company to sell its Chrome browser, as well as take
steps to increase competition. So obviously a very big day

(28:16):
for Google imaginal. We have to sell Chrome. I mean
that's unbelievable if you think about it.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Who would buy it?

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I don't know what would it cost? I mean everybody
uses Chrome, right, have to cost a fortune? Yeah, I
mean I have no idea whould buy it? I mean,
like in the cost, I think billions upon billions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah. Well, and then I try to think, like when
big things like this happen or may have to happen,
I wonder does that actually affect you and me? And
how does it affect. I guess if you have Google stock,
But what are some of the other ripples from something
like that happening.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Oh, you's that's a great point. I mean, obviously a
Google stock you would affect that because you know they
would lose a huge revenue source there with Chrome. I
don't think as a user. You know, you get up,
you get on a computer, you click on Chrome. Anything's
going to change potentially. But whoever buys it, you know,
at first, maybe the stock drops a little because they're
going to pay billions of dollars, But you would have
to believe that that stock of whichever company would in

(29:15):
fact buy it if it's you know, if Google is
forced to sell, it would at some point go up.
Because we know Chrome is a massive revenue source because
of the fact that everybody's using it. So for one,
it would be bad that being Google, and for the other,
whoever would potentially buy it if you became available, probably
very good for the stock. So take a you know,
kind of keep an eye on that one to see

(29:36):
what ends up happening.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Okay, speaking of stock, Boeing stock could be affected because
of the trade war between the US and China.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
What's up for that it's right in the toilet anyway, right.
Boeing has been in the news for the last couple
of years, all for the wrong reasons, but they're not
feeling the effects of that trade war, as deliveries of
some seven thirty seven jets have now been refused by
the Chinese airlines that ordered the planes, which has led
to Boeing flying the planes all day to the US,
you know, while the airplane maker, though, is in talks
of the parent company of state owned Malaysia Airlines for

(30:05):
that airline to potentially take over delivery slots left open
by those Chinese airlines. China also ordered its airlines to
stop receipt of Boeing aircraft and suspend purchases of aviation
equipment and parts from US company. So tit for tat
with China and the US. No one's blinking at this point.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
That's crazy, okay. And then tariff's giving a cola company
an advantage over other cola companies.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
That's right. PEPSI could get a disadvantage because they make
almost all their concentrate for its American sodas in Ireland
for over fifty years due to the country's low corporate
tax right now, the concentrate for Pepsi and Mount Dew
is going to be subject to a ten percent tariff.
Coca Cola Amy, they make their concentrate for the US
market in Atlanta and Puerto Rico. They're not going to
be exposed to tariff now. Both companies, though, could be

(30:51):
hurt by twenty five percent tariff on aluminum imports for
the cans we use. So they've now said they're probably
going to now try to have more plastic with bottles
and things like that rather than cans if in fact
they have to pay at twenty five percent tariff.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
I do not like that. I do not like my
diet coke in a plastic bottle. I like it in
an aluminum can. Really why, I don't know's it tastes better,
it stays colder. I don't know what it is. I
just like it in a can better than a bottle,
not than a glass bottle. But then I.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Plastic, I love the I like if I drink of coke,
I like it in the plastic. What is a twenty
ounce more than a can? You know? So we're completely Obsodamy.
We would certainly not survive in the same household exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
All right, Well with that, let's just end this discussion then,
Dan Business with Dan Schwartzman from Bloomberg. Thanks so much.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Have a good day, you too, Amy.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
All right, let's get back to some of the stories
coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. You know,
uput two people unarmed?

Speaker 3 (31:50):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
A brother and sister have been stabbed on the beach
in Santa Monica. The twenty eight year old sister says
she her brother, his girlfriend, and a couple other friends
are on the beach early Saturday morning when a couple
men began harassing them. They threatened and then stabbed the
brother and sister several times with pocket knives. The group
was able to run away. Two were taken to the hospital.
The brother remains there, the sister's been released. A man

(32:13):
who allegedly bit in Orange County police officers died in custody.
Fullerton officers responded to a city park early yesterday morning
to remove a man who was in the park after hours,
but la say the man resisted and bit one of
the officers before he was restrained. He later died at
the hospital. Attention, all these shoppers, the FEDS have issued
a health alert for a certain pork product.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
It might be contaminated with metal. The USDA says sixteen
ounce packages of pork carnitas, seasoned and seared pork could
contain the fragments. The affected items have use by dates
of June thirtieth or July first printed on the side.
Shoppers are urged not to eat the product and to
throw it away. No injuries have been reported, but the
USDA is warning consumers to take caution. Andrew Kirovelak hey

(32:56):
if I News.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Catholics began nine days of morning withinnnouncement that Pope Francis
has died. His death announced by the Vatican early this morning,
following a surprise appearance from the balcony of Saint Peter's
Basilica on Easter Sunday. Pope Francis was eighty eight. Deputies
responding to a traffic crash in Palmdale have found two
men dead in their car. The Sheriff's Departments's two bodies

(33:19):
were found with gunshot wounds in a remote area near
Little Rock Reservoir early yesterday morning. Sinners is the top
movie at the box office on Easter weekend. The vampire
thriller earned about forty five and a half million dollars
in its first weekend in theaters. A Minecraft movie was second,
still bringing in just over forty one million dollars, and
the faith based animated film The King of Kings was

(33:40):
in third with seventeen million in ticket sales. We're just
minutes away from handle on the news this morning. DHL
is responding to the Trump tariffs by canceling deliveries of
products worth more than eight hundred dollars. Bill's going to
tell you more about that right now. Let's say good
morning to ABC's Stephen portnoy So. Stephen, the Supreme Court
first said the Trump administration could use the Alien Enemies Act,

(34:01):
but now says no, not so fast.

Speaker 13 (34:04):
Well, what has happened here is unlike something we've seen
in the past. Rapid activity in the courts. On Friday
at the District Court, the Circuit Court, ultimately the Supreme
Court and the Justices put pause on deportations under the
Alien Enemies Act. The order from the Court late Friday
into Saturday morning said, quote, the government is directed not

(34:28):
to remove any member of the putative class of detainees
from the United States until further order of this Court,
the putative class being the Venezuelan men who were brought
to this facility in northern Texas as a staging area,
presumably for their imminent deportations under the Alien Enemies Act.
They've been given pieces of paper in English which said
that they are subject to removal under the Act, that

(34:49):
they have the right to make a phone call. But
nowhere in the Act. First of all, none of it
is in Spanish, and these men aren't necessarily believed to
speak English per se. And no wherein it does it
say that they have the right to consult an attorney
or to pose a challenge, which the Supreme Court weeks
ago said they have the right to do. The Supreme
Court also said that before any of these men are

(35:11):
deported under the Alien Enemies Act, they have to be
given notice within a reasonable amount of time. Well what's
a reasonable amount of time? The Court didn't say, And
so now that's being put to the test. The administration
seemed to be arguing, or seemed to believe the twenty
four hours was enough notice. And the argument is, well, look,
you have a couple of guys who were able to

(35:31):
call an attorney, get into Court and get an injunction
by the Supreme Court. So that's obviously enough time, isn't it.
That's the Supreme Court, that's the argument from the White House.
The justices who dissented from this are the conservatives, Samuel
Alito and Clarence Thomas.

Speaker 9 (35:47):
Now.

Speaker 13 (35:47):
Alito wrote separately over the weekend to say not that
he disagreed per se with his colleagues with respect to
how this is all playing out, except that it's not
ripe for consideration by the Supreme Court, that it's unpressed
and legally questionable in Alito's mind for the Supreme Court
to step in at this moment. That this needs to
play out first in the lower courts to develop a

(36:08):
record that the Supreme Court can then assess whether things
have been done right, rightly or wrongly.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Okay, And you mentioned dissenting was the two of them?
So was the seven to two decision.

Speaker 13 (36:18):
Seemingly Yes, there were no other noted descents generally that
we take away from that. It was just seven to two.
But importantly, in his descent, Alito said such things as
this quote, both the executive and the judiciary have an
obligation to follow the law, and he specifically said that
the executive the President must follow the Court's order of

(36:40):
earlier this month to give the detainees notice of their
removal within a reasonable time and the chance to challenge
it in court beforehand. The administration insists it's doing that.
But again, this piece of paper is in English. It
doesn't mention that they can consult an attorney, doesn't say
they can make a challenge, And the ACLU says that
that clearly violates at least the spirit of the court's
earlier order.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Okay, and then how has the Trump team responded to
the decision? Have they? Are they appealing? Well, how do
you appeal to the Supreme Court? What do they do next?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Well?

Speaker 13 (37:10):
Right, so, a whole lot of more filings, I mean,
you know, and just this morning, the last few minutes,
I see the ACALU has filed its latest response to
the government. So ultimately, this is going to have to
play out in one of two ways, either at the
Supreme Court. Supreme Court is going to have to resolve
the situation, or it'll play out first at the Fifth Circuit,
which is beneath them.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
And I don't know.

Speaker 13 (37:30):
And to the extent that Alito calls this unprecedented. I'm
not sure how this moves forward, but for now everything's
on pause until the Supreme Court says otherwise.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Okay, ABC, Stephen Porton, I thanks so much for the update.
Appreciate it. You bet, all right, let's get back to
some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty
four hour newsroom.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
He celebrated Easter with a faithful and now he celebrates
Easter in heaven.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
The Vatican has announced the death of Pope Francis. He
died this morning, a day after appearing outside the Vatican
on Easter Sunday. Father James Martins's friends has really wanted
to live through Eastern I.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Mean, I can't know what's going on in his mind,
but the idea that he would participate and celebrate with
the faithful was probably something that he really pushed himself
to do.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
The Pope spent more than a month in the hospital
earlier this year because of respiratory problems. He suffered chronic
lung disease and had part of one lung removed as
a young man. He served his pope for twelve years
and set a different tone for the papacy, focusing on humanity.
For the Catholic church facing scandals and accusations of indifference.
Both Francis Was eighty eight, Louisiana, Virginia, and Missouri have

(38:33):
all reported their first measles cases this year. One of
the patients reported over the weekend is a four year
old child, and all three cases are linked to international travel.
At least twenty seven states have reported at least one
case of measles so far in twenty twenty five. And
LA County firefighter has been hurt working to put out

(38:54):
a fire at a lumberyard in Pico Rivera. Officials say
the firefighters suffered what's called an indirect injury yesterday when
a train ran over the hose the firefighter was holding.
They were taken to the hospital to be treated for injuries,
which were described as moderate. A former LA City Council
member could be hit with hefty ethics fines.

Speaker 12 (39:15):
Former LA City Council member Kevin de Leone could face
nearly nineteen thousand dollars in fines for ethics violations tied
to three city hall votes. A new report says he
failed to disclose more than two hundred and sixty thousand
dollars in consulting fees from groups that later benefited from
those decisions, including the AIDS Healthcare Foundation and USC's Kex
School of Medicine. Dalleone admits to five violations, but says

(39:36):
the votes were about helping the vulnerable, not personal gain.
A final decision on the fine is still pending. Brigitia
Degastino Kafi.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
News LACD officials trying to figure out who has cut
down dozens of trees around downtown La.

Speaker 8 (39:48):
I lived downtown and walked around as I usually do.
I saw a tree on Olympic and Hope, and it
was chopped down. I thought it was the city.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
To tell you the truth.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Medea Mussavi runs the Downtown la Insider Instagram page. She
says he noticed the trees down while out for a
walk on Saturday morning.

Speaker 8 (40:04):
And as I'm walking around the city, I'm starting to
see trees in more areas. There's three right above us
on Grand, There's this one behind us.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
The trees on at least a half dozen streets appear
to have been cut down with a chainsaw. Mayor Bass's
office says city public works crews are assessing the damage
and making plans to quickly replace the trees. No arrests
have been made. This is KFI and kost HD two
Los Angeles, Orange County, live from the KFI twenty four

(40:31):
hour news room for a producer and technical producer Kno,
along with traffic specialist Will I'm Amy King. This has
been your wake up call. If you missed any wake
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You've been listening to wake Up Call with me, Amy King.
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