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May 6, 2025 36 mins
Heather Brooker fills in for Amy King while she is on vacation in Paris, France. ABC News correspondent Jordana Miller joins the show live from Jerusalem to discuss Israel voting to seize Gaza under new plan. ABC News national reporter Steven Portnoy discusses DHS announcing ‘travel assistance’ and stipend for voluntary self-deportation. ABC News tech reporter Mike Dobuski comes on the show for ‘Tech Tuesday!’ Today Mike talks about the new Orb that dropped, Meta’s AI social feed, and OpenAI abandoning their for-profit plans. Bloomberg’s Courtney Donohoe updates us on the latest in business and Wall Street. The show closes with the host of ‘How to Money’ Joel Larsgaard talking about Warren Buffet stepping down, new homes shrinking in size, and homeowners losing tons of equity.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to wake Up Call on demand from KFI
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Orange County. It's time for your morning wake up call.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good morning. This is your wake up call for Tuesday,
May sixth. I'm Heatherbrooker in for Amy King this week.
I hope your morning is off to a great start,
and we're glad that you're here with us today.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
We've got a lot.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Of stories we want to get to you, but first
I want to say good morning to the wake Up
Call crew. Good morning, producer, Anne, how are you?

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
It's always so nice to see you. Are you feeling
more well rested since yesterday? I know you didn't get
much sleep. Oh my nice love about seven hours? Ooh
that's nice. That's nice. I'm a little jealous. I didn't
get to sleep that much. And Cono good morning to
you as well. Good morning other And we know you
had no naps because you got little ones busy.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
I actually my four year old wanted to watch Moana
and I think I passed out.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
You were like sleeping during a little bit during Marana. Yeah, oh,
I get it. I remember those days when my daughter
was the age. I would kind of drift off during
during those movies Good times.

Speaker 7 (01:18):
Yeah, my daughter's very sweet.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
And then I wake up with a blanket on me.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh that's so thoughtful. I'd love that. What a good
little heart she has. And then do we have will
Cole Schreiber? No, oh lord, all right, I guess we'll
all just have to guess what's happening with the traffic.
Then today we'll just somebody call in and tell us.
We'll figure it out.

Speaker 8 (01:42):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Once we get to that point, let's get started though,
jump right in. We had a lot of news to
cover today. Here's what's the head on wake up call.
The woman accused of killing a star high school athlete
in Manhattan Beach had a prior d UI. Jenny Belt
was charged in twenty twenty three with DUI hit and run.
She was reportedly driving on a suspended license when she
hit and killed eighteen year old Bron Levy on Sunday.

(02:05):
LA Animal Services may get five million dollars back in
its budget, avoiding major layoffs and shelter closures. The funding
helps keep adoption and Spain neuter campaigns alive. As the
city council prepares to finalize the budget and its wildfire
Preparedness Week in California, and officials are urging everyone to
help build a fire ready future. That means clearing brush

(02:28):
and making an evacuation plan at CalFire says now is
the time to act because wildfire safety starts at home.
We'll have more on that as well, and then coming
up on wake up Call. At five oh five, tensions
escalate in the Middle East as Israel approves a controversial
plan to seize Gaza and expand its military presence, with
airstrikes now reaching Yemen. We'll check in with Jordana Miller

(02:50):
and Jerusalem to find out what this means for the region.
At five point twenty, President Trump says his administration will
offer migrants money and flights to encourage self deport Those
who leave voluntarily may return more easily, and he says
those who don't d well, they'll be barred permanently. Steve
Portnoy will join us with more on that five point
thirty five. Have you ever heard of chrome orbs to

(03:13):
prove that you're human? What is she even talking about? Well,
we're going to tell you a news startup is planting
thousands of them across the US cities, and yes, privacy
concerns are already popping up. Mike Debuski will join us
to break all that down. And if I point fifty,
Joel Larsgar joins us with how to money, and we're
going to be talking about Warren Buffett. He's stepping down

(03:34):
and what his legendary investing legacy means for the rest
of us. That's all coming up at six oh five.
It's handled on the news. LAFD union president Freddie Escobar
has been suspended over allegations of financial misconduct. Escobar denies
the claims, calling them politically motivated. Let's start with some
of the stories coming out of the KAFI twenty four
hour newsroom. Police say a woman arrested for a deadly

(03:56):
dui crash in Manhattan Beach should not have been driving.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Belt, the thirty three year old alleged DUI driver accused
of killing eighteen year old Loyola High School senior Bron
Levy on May fourth, was reportedly driving on a license
suspended for a previous drunk driving arrest. According to the
La Times, Belt's license was suspended in January twenty twenty
four after she pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor hit
and run with property damage.

Speaker 7 (04:21):
Eileen Gonzalez k a fine news.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Covered California may be selling patients information. A new lawsuit
says LinkedIn and Google both received health data about users
who logged into coveredca dot com. The information was shared
without their consent. Web trackers sent information about pregnancy prescriptions
and which doctors people use. Millions of people get insurance
through Covered California. A man from La County is accused

(04:47):
of posing as an IRS agent and stealing twenty thousand
dollars from a person in Riverside County.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Thirty one year old Arcadia resident zeq One Oh was
arrested last week following a report of fraud the Riverside County.
The Sheriff's Department says Oh extorted money from the victim
after telling them their financial accounts had been compromised, or
arrived to pick up money while deputies from the Sheriff's
Department's Norco station we're meeting with the victim.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Kfi's Daniel Martindale says the phony agent was arrested on
the spot. Mental healthcare workers at Kaiser Permanent Day may
soon sign a new contract.

Speaker 9 (05:22):
Nearly seven months after going on a labor strike. The
union representing the workers will hold a ratification vote Thursday
on a proposed new contract. The tentative deal, announced Sunday
covers nearly twenty four hundred Kaiser mental health therapists, social workers,
psychiatric nurses and psychologists represented by National Union of Healthcare Workers.
If ratified, the agreement will go into effect immediately. Deborah

(05:45):
mark Kffi.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
News Governor Newsom says the story about Californian's losing population
has changed. In a new video posted to Newsom's social
media pages, the governor says California is growing again.

Speaker 10 (05:58):
This narrative of mass exodu enough, that's old talking points.
People have to give that up.

Speaker 9 (06:04):
There's a lot of California arrangement syndrome out there, and
I think we continue to outperform it.

Speaker 10 (06:10):
We continued to show our critics the door.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Newsom says the state added about one hundred and eight
thousand residents in twenty twenty four, bringing the total population
close to forty million. He says the state has the
most fortune five hundred companies in over a decade. Tensions
are rising in the Middle East as Israel approves a
new plan to expand operations in Gaza and strike Kouthi
rebels in Yemen, and with President Trump said to visit soon.

(06:34):
ABC's Geordana Miller is live in Jerusalem with more on
what's at stay. Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 11 (06:42):
We do have some breaking news which is just a
few minutes ago, the Israeli Army ordered evacuation orders for
Sauna International Airport, that is the main airport in Yemen's capital, Sauna.
And it appears the Israeli armies on the verge of
carrying out another wave of strikes today following last night's strikes.

(07:07):
All of this began, of course, over the weekend when
the Hutis, the rebel backed the rebel group backed by Iran,
fired a ballistic missile that hit inside the grounds of
Bengori International Airport, narrowly missing Terminal three packed with travelers,
narrowly missing the runway with plenty of ship, plenty of

(07:33):
aircraft on there, including some filled with travelers, and that
started this latest wave. It comes on the heels as well,
as you mentioned, the announcement that Israel's Cabinet Security Cabinet
has approved plans to really expand in a very aggressive way.

(07:55):
Israel's operations in the Gaza Strip. It's really another phase
of this war that, if carried out, would see the
Israeli army gradually take over the entire Gaza Strip, move
most of Gaza's two million Palestinians south into one area.
And it would also include Israel taking over They're already

(08:20):
in southern Gaza, but creating hub there for the distribution
of aid. Remember Israel's been blocking aid now for more
than two months. If this war plan goes through, Israel
will allow aiden, but only in very restricted areas, and
apparently private companies will come in and distribute it. The

(08:41):
UN agencies have already said they won't be a part
of this plan at all. The one important thing to
note is that this very aggressive plan to essentially take
over the Gaza Strip will is not expected to begin
until President Trump concludes his visit here in the Middle
and he's coming next week for a few days to

(09:03):
Saudi Arabia. The United Arab Emirates to cutter and the
Israelis are going to wait and see if possibly the
President can put pressure and get another Goza Seafire deals
signed or advance a deal. Those talks have installed for
many weeks and Israel using this aggressive plan as a
kind of pressure tactic on Hamas. But you know, Hamas

(09:26):
has not responded in the past to these kinds of
moves and measures, so it's unlikely they will this time either.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
So what prompted this sudden surge in this plan, Like
it seems like they have been you know, there's been
fighting going back and forth for quite some time, but
this seems particularly aggressive and sudden. What prompted this.

Speaker 11 (09:49):
Well, we have to understand that since Israel broke the
seafire in mid March, that was done with a new
security and de fense, established a new crew of leaders, right,
a new defense minister, a new head of the Israeli Army,
and though those leaders have had, along with the Israeli

(10:13):
Prime Minister, a much more aggressive idea of what needs
to come next in Gaza. And the truth is, since
the ceasefire broke now about you know, more than a
month ago, the Israelis have been telling us on and
sometimes in even their public remarks that the next phase
of Gaza will look very different, the next phase of

(10:34):
the war, different than what we saw in the first year.
When we asked about that, they were already indicating that
Israel was gearing up for a much more intense plan
to take over the entire Gaza strip and hold territory
and hope that that will somehow bring Hamas to its knees.

(10:55):
You know, there's a big question about whether this will
even work, along with all the eagal issues it raises
about international law, humanitarian law. What will happen the two
million Palestinians. Will they be now under some kind of
military occupation. I mean, we'll have to wait and see,
but this is a very aggressive plan that many will

(11:18):
are already it's already drawing criticism in Europe and at
the UN.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
And unrealistically, what difference will it make, you know, before
or after Trump's visit. I know that they are saying
that they're delaying implementing the full you know plan until
after he visits, But if they're just going to do
it anyway, what is what's the difference?

Speaker 12 (11:41):
Why wait?

Speaker 10 (11:42):
Well?

Speaker 11 (11:42):
First, I think these I think the Israelis do want
to wait and see if Trump can exert pressure and
help advance the ceasefire talks that are stalled right now.
I think Israel would prefer to sign a deal for
six weeks get out eight or ten hostages, right, and

(12:04):
instead of going to this very aggressive plan, which we
have to say, I mean, it really could endanger the
lives of the hostages, right, They could be moved, they
could be killed out of revenge or anger.

Speaker 7 (12:18):
Right.

Speaker 11 (12:18):
So there's a clear risk and there's a lot of
public opposition to the plan. But the other reasons that
the Israelis are going to wait or first of all,
they've called up all these reservists. They have to train
them in the south of the country before going into Gaza.
That will take at least two weeks. And there are
very sensitive talks going on between the United States and

(12:41):
Iran and talks about a normalization deal between Israel and
Saudi Arabia. And the Israelis don't want to divert attention
away from this moment that Trump is going to have
in the Middle East. They don't want to mar it
with a major, a major aggressive ground operation in the

(13:01):
Gaza strip.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
They want to wait and just sort of see what happens. Well,
we'll definitely be watching this closely. Jondona Miller in Jerusalem,
thank you so much for your time.

Speaker 11 (13:11):
Welcome Tuxon.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Thank you all right, let's get back to some of
the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom.
Wildfire Preparedness Week in California is underway through May tenth.

Speaker 9 (13:20):
The state is focusing on the theme building a fire
ready future, strengthening our defenses together. Residents are encouraged to
take steps to protect their homes. Key recommendations from cal
Fire include clearing the first five feet around your home
and using fire resistant materials on and around your place.
CalFire says people should create an evacuation plan and prepare

(13:41):
a go bag in case you have to evacuate quickly.
Deborah mark Kffi.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
News Actress Lisa Lou has become the oldest recipient of
a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. She says
she first turned down a star in nineteen sixty because
she couldn't bear the thought of people walking on her name.

Speaker 13 (13:57):
Today it's ninety eight years old. I embraced the star
as a testament.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Lou's long career in entertainment has included roles in the
movies The Last Emperor, The Joy Luck Club, and Crazy
Rich Asians. A suspended Newport Beach attorney has been sentenced
to nearly two years in federal prison for stealing close
to nine million dollars in a loan fraud scheme. Prosecutors
say Sarah King use the money to fund a lavish
lifestyle and a gambling addiction. She pleaded guilty in twenty

(14:33):
twenty three. Her attorney said she was addicted to xanax
and drinking heavily while gambling in Vegas. Jury selection is
underway in Sean diddy Combe's criminal trial for sex trafficking
and racketeering nineteen. Prospective jurors advanced after answering questions about
media habits, music tastes, and backgrounds. Trial is expected to

(14:53):
last about two months. A former Homeland Security official claims
President Trump is using government power to silent critics. The
ex official alleges the administration is targeting political opponents and
civil society groups. This raises concerns about free speech and
democratic norms. At six oh five, it's handled on the news.
The Trump administration is offering undocumented immigrants one thousand dollars

(15:17):
and travel assistants to voluntarily leave the US. The Department
of Homeland Security says this self deportation program facilitated through
CBP home app through the CBPOM home app aims to
reduce deportation costs way up to seventy percent. Critics argue
it may mislead migrants about future re entry options. Let's

(15:39):
say good morning to Stephen Portnoy, where we are going
to be talking about President Trump. He's unveiled a controversial
new plan encouraging those migrants like I just said, to
self deport offering financial incentives and a flight home. Good morning, Stephen,
Good morning to you. All right, what exactly is the
administration proposing with this self deportation program and how did

(16:00):
it work in practice?

Speaker 14 (16:01):
Well, I think you laid a lot of it out.

Speaker 11 (16:03):
Look.

Speaker 14 (16:03):
The bottom line is this administration wants to incentivize migrants
in the country illegally to take it upon themselves to leave.
You may have seen TV commercials with the Homeland Security
Secretary of Christy Nome warning migrants that if they don't
do it themselves, well they're going to face much harsher
treatment from the US government with ice arresting and detaining

(16:24):
and ultimately deporting them. So yesterday the announcement was made
that the incentive will be a free plane ticket and
one thousand dollars cash stipend. On top of that, if
migrants register with the government through the CBP Home app.
Used to be the CBP one app, which was used
by the Biden administration to facilitate the entries of people

(16:47):
who wanted to register their asylum claim and make an
appointment to show up at the border. Well, that service
is no longer in use, and now the app is
being used by the Trump administration to people for their
own self deportation. The argument is that this costs the
government a lot less to pay people to do it

(17:08):
on their own than to have law enforcement arrest, detain,
and deport individuals. So they say it's seventy percent cheaper.
The average cost for deportation, according to officials, is seventeen
thousand dollars per migrant. You can see the math. So
the first person to do it took this flight from
Chicago to Hunduras. We have no estimates as far as

(17:29):
I know, as to how many people will take advantage,
and I don't know that there's necessary a cap, necessarily
a cap or a limit on how many people can
or whether there's fine print that might reduce eligibility.

Speaker 11 (17:43):
We'll see, all.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Right, So has the White House released any specifics on
how much will be paid out and where that funding
is coming from. You know, how many people are going
to be able to self deport? Do we have enough
money for all of them?

Speaker 14 (17:59):
I just answered that question when I said that there
are no estimates that I've seen. Ah okay, But it
raises substantial questions because not only the ones you ask,
what about what kind of protection is there against fraud?
What the government says is that the app will be
used once a person lands in their home country to
register their arrival, and then the cash will be dispersed.

(18:22):
So there's a great deal of trust that is being
dependent on here on both sides. The migrants have to
trust that the money will come, and the government has
to trust that the migrants will actually leave and have left.
I suppose will be some sort of GPS technology with
the app to ensure that the phone is physically present
in the other country. And while there are VPNs and

(18:45):
other ways to sort of create the idea that you're
in another country, I don't know, you must have the
location or some sort of other trigger turned on your
phone where it'll actually say where you are. The bottom
line is that this is something that government is doing
and wants highly publicized, and they've succeeded in that to

(19:06):
get migrants to do it on their own. And it's
part of the overall effort of mass deportations that the
Trump administration's undertaking. Now they've reported that about one hundred
and fifty thousand migrants have been deported so far, and
that's a significant number, but not nearly as high as
the President boasted about in the campaign.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Are those self deported? Are those just overall deportations?

Speaker 14 (19:27):
Those are overall deportations conducted by the government.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Has the White House clarified if there's going to be
a set timeline or deadline for migrants to take advantage.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Of this offer, not that I've seen.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Okay, all right, Stephen Porton only thank you so much,
you back, bye bye. The head of LAX says a
minimum wage increase could run off lots of businesses at
the airport.

Speaker 12 (19:51):
LA World Airport's CEO, John Ackerman says neither he nor
his board have a position on the proposed Olympic wage
for hotel and airport workers in LA He says, how however,
every airport concessionaire has told them it would be devastating
and some would close.

Speaker 10 (20:04):
I think it's going to be challenging to replace them
with someone who is miraculously going to do better coming
in new.

Speaker 12 (20:10):
The city is considering an incremental increase in the hourly
wage for some hotel and airport workers, all the way
to thirty dollars an hour by twenty twenty eight. A
city council committee is set to vote on that issue today.
Michael Monks KFI News.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
A Hepatitis A outbreak has been declared in La County.
The Department of Public Health says it's confirmed twenty nine
cases so far this year. The total number in twenty
twenty four was triple the number in twenty twenty three.
The Health department says residents should consider a vaccine if
they don't already have one. Appetitis A is a highly

(20:43):
contagious liver infection caused by the hepatitis A virus. It
can range from a mild illness lasting a few weeks
to a severe illness lasting several months. The Animal Services
Department in La appears close to having five million dollars
restored to its budget, and our director at Neett Ramirez
says even the department's public relations team was slated for layoffs,

(21:06):
which would have cut down awareness campaigns for adoptions, spanying
and neutering, and other initiatives.

Speaker 8 (21:11):
It would, I think have a huge negative impact on
our live outcomes. I think it would actually have a
direct impact on increasing youth in Asia rates.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Mayor Bassa's original budget proposal called for a nearly five
million dollar reduction in the department's budget, which would have
closed three shelters and laid off dozens of workers. The
city council will finalize the budget in the coming weeks.
Mental health workers at Kaiser Permanente are about to vote
on a new contract after nearly seven months on strike.
The tenative deal announced yesterday covers about twenty four hundred therapists,

(21:45):
social workers, and psychologists in southern California. The union has
been pushing for higher pay, more patient more time for
patient care, and pension benefits for newer hires. A vote
on the proposed contract e set for Thursday. Some pro
Palestine protesters have sued LA and the state of California
over the police response to college protests. Demonstrators liked demonstrators

(22:09):
like David Ramirez, say they suffered injuries last year after
being shot with rubber bullets as a camp was forcefully
cleared by police.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
That night, I found myself on my hands and eath
knees with excruciating pain above my temple, realizing I'd been hit.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
The suit charged targets, the LAPD and the California Highway Patrol.
Some demonstrators say they were sent to the hospital because
of their injuries. A suspended attorney from Newport Beach has
been sensceinnarily two years in federal prison for stealing nearly
nine million dollars in a loan fraud scheme. Prosecutors argue
Sarah King used that money to keep her lavish lifestyle
and gambling habit, but King pleaded guilty in twenty twenty three.

(22:46):
Her lawyers said she was suffering from an addiction to
xanax and was having ten drinks a day, and she
played slot machines in Vegas to maintain her lifestyle. An
effort by the US to in the war in Ukraine
appears less likely to succeed. ABC Karen Travers says President
Trump you issued a deadline last week, giving Ukraine and
Russia two weeks to make a deal.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
The President has not answered questions about what would happen
at the end of that two week period which is
quickly approaching, and what that means for the peace deal
going forward. It's also important to note that the United
States has been working with Russia and with Ukraine, but
those two sides have not yet engaged on a meaningful
conversation about reaching a peace settlement.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Overnight, Russia said it intercepted more than one hundred Ukrainian
drones fired at almost a dozen of its regions. Coming
up tonight, the Dodgers will take on the Marlins at
Dodgers Stadium, with the first pitch at seven. Listen to
all Dodgers games on AM five seventy LA Sports and
stream all Dodgers games in HD on the iHeartRadio app
keyword AM five seventy LA Sports. Zenschi handcrafted sushi made

(23:49):
fresh daily at Ralph's near the deli counter. Three leaders
of the Los Angeles Firefighters Union have been suspended after
a forensic audit uncovered a eight hundred thousand in undocumented
credit card charges. The International Association of Firefighters has placed
the local union under conservatorship, citing financial malpractice. Union president

(24:11):
Freddie Escobar denies the allegations, calling them politically motivated. A
hepatitis A outbreak has been declared in La County, with
cases already tripled last year's total. Artificials are urging unvaccinated
residents to get the shot as the virus is highly contagious.
An elementary school in West Hills went on a brief

(24:34):
lockdown after a man tried to kidnap a toddler on
campus Monday afternoon. The child's family fought him off and
ran into a Nadia Way elementary for help. Police responded
quickly and gave the all clear. Then at six ZH
five its Handle on the News. Tensions are escalating as
President Trump meets Canadian tensions are expected to escalate, I

(24:55):
should say, as President Trump meets Canadian Prime Minister Mark
Carney amid a growing trade war, Trump's tariffs and annexation
talk have strained relations, while Carney seeks to defend Canada's
sovereignty and reset ties. So we'll keep a close eye
on that, and I'm sure we'll have a lot to
say coming up on Handle on the News. Let's get

(25:17):
back to some of the stories coming out of the
KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Governor Newsom has criticized the
Republican controlled House for trying to use the Congressional Review
Act to challenge California's Clean Car Act.

Speaker 7 (25:29):
The Act allows the state to set its own clean
vehicle standards. He argues that the move contradicts tradition and
expert opinions. Newsom noted that California has been focused on
improving air quality since the Nixon era, achieving a twenty
percent reduction in greenhouse gass e mission since the year
two thousand, while the economy grew by seventy eight percent.
According to Newsom, last year, California power at its grid

(25:52):
with clean energy for fifty one days. Tammy Trio KFI News.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
California Democratic Congressman Dave min says he wants more details
from the FEDS about a raid by US Immigration and
Customs Enforcement in a neighborhood of Irvine. He says he
is deeply concerned about reports that ICE agents raided a
home in the city. Agents served a warrant Thursday as
part of an investigation into alleged doxing attack targeting federal

(26:19):
immigration officials. They were apparently looking for the son of
the couple that was home during the raid from Shiny
Chrome orbs meant to verify your human to social media
feeds filled entirely with AI generated content. The digital landscape
is shifting fast and now OpenAI has announced it will
stay a nonprofit, reversing it will stay a nonprofit, reversing

(26:43):
earlier plans to go for profit and joining us to
unpack all of this, which I'm like, what did I
just say? What am I saying?

Speaker 10 (26:51):
Is?

Speaker 2 (26:51):
ABC needs tech reporter Mike Debuski, Good morning, Mike, Good morning,
Heather A good I feel like I'm speaking another language.
Chrome orbs. What is this? What are they supposed to do?

Speaker 6 (27:01):
Yeah, so we can start with the Chrome orbs. This
comes from a new startup called World and last week
in San Francisco, they had an event announcing that they're
coming to the United States. They've been operating around the
globe for a few years now, and this company's whole
goal is to provide a way to prove your humanity online.

(27:22):
Something that you can use in banking, something that you
can use in e commerce, science and technology fields, on
social media. This is a way to definably prove that
you are human, World says, and it's necessary, they say,
because in the future, everything's going to be dominated by
AI generated content. It's going to be very difficult to

(27:42):
suss out what's real and what's not, what's made by
a person and what is generated by an artificial intelligence.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
So we're going to.

Speaker 6 (27:50):
Need a way to sort of figure that out to
definably prove one's personhood. And that makes some degree of sense, right,
But what is dividing opinion here is how world is
going about doing that. You mentioned the orbs. This is
where the orbs come in. The imagine a sort of
small bowling ball sized device. It's chrome, and it has
a small screen on the front of it. The idea

(28:13):
is you approach this ORB as a person, you look
into that screen, it scans your eyeball, and then from
that scan, it generates a specific biometric identifier that you
are supposed to use in your online life. In fact,
it's already being used in Japan. Tinder, the dating service,
is using these biometric identifiers to verify whether people are

(28:36):
real on that platform or not. But as you can imagine,
this is raising some privacy concerns as well.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, let's talk a little bit about that. What other
kind of data are they collecting? I mean, is it
just your email and shopping habits or what are they collecting.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
Well, for one, they are taking a picture of your eye, right,
that is a piece of your body.

Speaker 10 (28:56):
Right.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
People are a little discomforted by that. There's also sort of,
given the chrome orbiness of this whole thing, a little
bit of a sci fi black mirror element to this
that people are a little uncomfortable with. World, for its part, says,
it doesn't store the iris scans internally, right, it deletes them.
It just uses that sort of piece of your body

(29:16):
to general generate this identifier. Right, that's a string of
code that is you know the result of this. But
you can imagine, you know, if there's a data breach
involved here, if there's a hack or anything like that,
you know, you're not just losing a password, You're losing
you know, a crucial picture of your human hood, right,
your person hood, And that is raising some concerns. People

(29:39):
are a little trepidacious about that, it seems. However, for
what it's worth, World says since it launched globally two
years ago, twelve million people have been scanned so far,
and they plan to have seventy five hundred orbs in
the US by the end of the year, starting in
San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Nashville.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
All Right, so Meta is saying that they're experiment with
AI only social media feeds and do people do we
really need that? I mean, honestly, I that is the
big question with this.

Speaker 6 (30:08):
So they have a new app out. They had a
big conference last week about their AI technology. This new
app is a place to centralize their AI. So you
may have interacted with metas ai in Instagram already or
on Facebook. They prompt you to do that pretty aggressively.
Now this is a standalone app that's just for its
AI stuff. And what sets this apart from other AI

(30:28):
apps is that there's a discover tap, basically a social
media feed that you can scroll see the pictures that
people have generated using AI. You can look at questions
that people have asked metas ai and the responses that
that AI has given back. It's a really interesting feed
to scroll through because there's not really a lot of
people there. It's just AI generated stuff. And as you

(30:51):
alluded to in the beginning there, that has raised a
lot of questions about why people would want to hang
out there. If you are really following your friends, you're
just following sort of computer generated content. But it's notable though,
just because a few weeks ago open ai, the maker
of chat gpt, announced that they are working on a
social network. So it seems like this is Meta's attempt

(31:12):
to get ahead of the game a little bit and
get people excited about their own AI tools.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Okay, quickly, before I let you go, open ai is
going to stay a nonprofit and I guess that surprised
a lot of people. So what does this really mean
for you know, it's business model and any future innovation.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
Yeah, so for a long time, open ai had been
trying to transition from a nonprofit into a for profit company.
Right now, they have a sort of weird structure where
a nonprofit board controls a for profit LLC company, and
that's the company that makes chat, gpt and all these
other services that you can pay money to use. They
wanted to basically get rid of the nonprofit piece of it,

(31:48):
and they faced a lot of opposition to that plan,
people saying that, you know, this is an attempt by
them to shed all of the sort of good hearted
goals of the nonprofit to create AI for the good
of humanity, to not necessarily put profits first, but rather
to develop technology in a safe way. They say getting
rid of the nonprofit would basically take the shackles off

(32:09):
of open AI and allow them to create any manner
of potentially very dangerous technologies. Now they say they're they're
abandoning the plan to transition into a for profit company.
The nonprofit is going to remain in charge. The LLC
will become what's known as a public benefit corporation, which
changes around some things with regard to equity, but for
the most part, the structure is remaining the same.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
All right, very cool stuff, Mike, Thank you so much
for your time this morning.

Speaker 6 (32:33):
Of course, take care.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
All right, it's time to get up in your business.
I think I added the get up in your business
part of it. Maybe maybe maybe it's just get in
their business. Bloomberg's Courtney Dono is here. Good morning, Courtney.

Speaker 10 (32:48):
You know sometimes when I get up and I look
at the markets and I look at the trading screen,
it looks like I'm getting up in a flight. There
you go, there you go getting rough on certain days.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
All right, let's talk about four. They're the latest big
name to warn that the trade war is about to
do some significant damage. Tell me about that.

Speaker 10 (33:05):
Yeah, well, the car maker has suspended its full your
financial guidance, pinning the blame in part on tariff's. Ford
also says that duties are going to take a toll
on profit, reducing earnings by about one and a half
billion dollars. But you have to put all of this
in perspective because Ford's tariff exposure is a lot less
than its Detroit rivals. We're talking Chrysler, We're talking GM,

(33:27):
and that's because eighty percent of the cars that it
tells in the US are built here. But shares of
Ford are definitely taking a hit in the pre market
this morning.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
All right, And it looks like it's the end of
the road for Write Aid. What's going on?

Speaker 10 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah, and this is important. I even call my
parents about this one because they go with you write it,
and I know there's a lot of people out there
who have a lot of questions. So, less than a
year after emerging from bankruptcy, the pharmacy chain has filed
for Chapter eleven once again. So the company wasn't able
to secure more money from lenders in order to continue
running the business. So sources telling us that all Right

(34:01):
Aid stores will either be closed or sold, and right
Aid is working with several regional and national buyers who
might be interested in parts of the company, but executives
didn't name which firms they were, so big question, what
does this mean for your prescription? So for now, you're
still going to be able to get your medications if
you go to the store, if you're online. However, right
Aid does say it's going to work to smoothly move

(34:22):
them to other pharmacies.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
And Mattel plans to buy less toys from China. Why
is that?

Speaker 10 (34:29):
Yes, they have to. They have to figure out what
to do with tariffs. A big Los Angeles company, else Agundo,
actually the Barbie and Hot Wheels owner, manufacturers about forty
percent of its toys in China. So the company's plan
is to buy less than fifteen percent from the nation
next year and fewer than ten percent by twenty twenty seven.
But the tariffs are weighing on the industry that's already

(34:53):
been flowing down. Remember it's surged during the pandemic lockdowns.
All these parents are up this saying, all right, I
need to get toys entertain my children. Well, when that'll
when everybody came back out again after the pandemic, toy
sales ended up becoming a lot less. So between the
tariffs and that, it's this is a big issue for

(35:14):
the company, so they're taking a lot of actions. And
one of the things that they are doing, which is
unfortunate for a lot of parents out there, they're planning
to increase the prices on some toys.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
No, that's definitely news that we don't want to hear. Cortney,
thank you so much for your time, and we'll check
it with you in tomorrow.

Speaker 10 (35:31):
Definitely see you later, Bye bye.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I did not know that they had phones. Is that you, guys?
Am I totally out of touch? But I did not know.
I guess I just assumed they were all very like
I don't know. I don't know why. Yes, I guess
maybe I was.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Those are two different parts of the world.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
You're right, you are correct. I don't know why. I
was thinking, Wow, they have phones. They're very very modern
of them. Yeah, yeah, all right, you guys. That's going
to do it for This is KFI and kosd HD
two Los Angeles, Orange County live from the KFI twenty
four hour Newsroom. We want to say thanks for joining
us for producer and producer. Guys, I'm gonna call you

(36:12):
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for sure. I'm Ether Brooker. Thanks for listening, everybody. This
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