April 23, 2025 • 20 mins
JOSHUA GRIFFIN WANTS TO BE GOVERNOR And he joins me today to talk about his plans for Colorado, some of which I am not a fan of. We'll do a deep dive into what he stands for at 1, find out more about him here.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am pleased to have with me the first candidate
that we've talked to while we talked to Greg Lopez,
and I don't know a lot about Joshua Griffin. I
do know that some of his policy positions espoused on
his website Joshua Griffin forco dot Com, I absolutely love.
But there's one that's stuck in my crop. But we'll
talk about it in a moment. Welcome to the show, Joshua.
(00:21):
Welcome to the show, and tell me a little bit
why you decided you wanted to put your face in
the wood chipper of goubernatorial race.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, first of all, thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm always gonna say us, because it's not just me
here is everybody that's standing with me and supporting me
that has brought me here.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Been in the military, it's been about two decades fighting
in hot desert, you know locations. And also I grew
up in Houston, Texas, you know, so you can only
imagine the heat down there as well. So when I
got stationed here almost like twenty fifteen, you know, I
fell in love with Colorado, the beauty, the people. I mean,
(01:04):
during that time, we had a culinary boom. So anyway,
so me and my wife, you know, I'm a wife here,
we had a children here, and we want to stay here. However,
it is becoming so bad for housing, small businesses, crime,
et cetera. That is becoming a place that we don't
want to raise our kids anymore. And instead of just
telling and running away and saying all right, we're done
(01:27):
with this place to go somewhere else. You know, I'm
a fighter by nature, and I always want to protect
and certain people. I want to continue my service or
this country, and if that means serving us a country
and the protecting capacity of being a state legislator, a
Mostorian candidate, I really believe, don't push your problems to
somebody else to run from them.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Stand there, dig in, fight in to help everybody else.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I love that attitude.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Tell me a little bit about you, you personally and
why or how you got to be this guy that
we're seeing now.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Oh man, travel and arrow, loads of mistakes, loads of humility.
I think the biggest things that you know, I'll want
people to understand about me is that Number one, I
am an obsessed fauther. I am a loving, endearing, never
make the marks all the time. But what husband does
to my wife, I mean, she's borgeous, beautiful and what
(02:20):
a wonderful, wonderful supporter. And you know, I can't speak
enough about my wife.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I'm a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I don't get too much into the cliches of what
I've done in the military because at the end of
the day, I wasn't special in the military.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It was the people that was special in the military.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
And you know, one thing we learned special operations is
that you're not special. Is the mission that's special. Is
the people that you serve and protect that are special.
In last, but not least, you know, I'm somebody that
inspires to see other people happy, to see other people smile,
and not get caught up into twenty percent that we
disagree in, but live within the eighty percent that we
(03:00):
can learn to love and acknowledge and Respectulism.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
You know, I'm I want to know what makes you,
What is your sort of your guiding compass that makes
you because because some of your policy positions are extremely conservative,
you know, fiscally, foundationally, very conservative in their methodology, and
I love that, I really do. But you also seem
to have the ability or the desire to take care
(03:27):
of families in this state in a way that doesn't
necessarily And I'm not saying conservatives are heartless and don't
care about families, but using things in the power of
government in order to assist families as well. So where
would you put yourself on the political spectrum? You are
a Republican, But where would you say.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You are from?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You know, center right to h as far right as
you can imagine. Where would you put yourself?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Uh? Nowhere?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I think we I don't think actually, Rather, I know
we make a mistake and talk about where we stand
on the on the line of the spectrum when there
are multifacets of that spectrum that you're going to be
embedded in, you know, whether it is social, economics, family,
I mean, infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
There's so much.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And so that's why we dub the philosophy foxhole politics,
because we're not telling.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You that we're anywhere on the spectrum.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Our main tenants are defending the base, helping each other
out and living in a space where we can actually
complete the mission and help each other come back home
to where it's safe and just pleasing and something I
want to put out there, Yes, I am a Republican,
and yes, I have some very conservative views and some
(04:44):
would say some you know, borderline libertarian things.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And I do have a heart for people, very very
much so for children.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I put it like this, we need to stop with
the political identities.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We have to stop that, we have to stop with
the extremisms.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
And something that we're doing in our campaign is that
we want to help birth the age of political togetherness,
you know, a unity under the one tribe of USA
and give each other the space to divorce ourselves from
the extremes.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You have a career as an attorney, you have a
career in the military. What would you say to people
who say, look, this guy hasn't run anything as big
as the state of Colorado. I mean, he's not a politician.
He doesn't understand how the system works because he's outside
of it.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
How do you respond to those kind of criticisms.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, I mean, maybe a little player.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I am not an attorney, although I was a Bears
lawyer jokingly.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
No, I'm an engineer by trade. That's my company. We
do a lot of own aircraft engineering stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But to get to the point of the criticism that
you say, the first point I wipe that is so
I was young enough to go fight for our country
and lead our sons and daughters in battlefields to potentially
die for our country, but I'm not old enough to
help lead our country within its borders. To me, that
(06:15):
seems very oxymoronic and very selfish if you will that, Hey,
you're good enough to die.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
For us, but you're not good enough to help lead us.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So what makes what makes my leadership and the battlefield
different than my leadership here?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Which a lot of people say.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Although it may not be physical at most times, you know,
it is a battle field of thought, a battle field
of unity and complexity, and at the end of the day,
you know, they say that the definition of a sanity
is doing something over and over again expecting a different result.
I ask people that are listening to us right now,
(06:53):
how many politicians have you voted for with the understanding
that they say, hey, I can fix this. But yet
they've been in the they are part of the problem
for at least a decade.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And so that's that's my pushback in those type of criticisms.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
What do you think is the biggest issue that you
want to tackle first? If you become governor what is
the first thing that you're like, we have got to
fix this water?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Really, h two O water in what?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
In what way? I mean? We we've got the Colorado
River Compact. And I don't want to go too details
here because I will tell you this my experience, as
the talk show host says, when you talk about water,
people's eyes glaze over.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
We all know it's important, right it theoretically we all
know it's.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Important, but it is such, it's really dense, and it
is a it is a you know, when you're talking
about water rights and water compacts and how much you
know square foot by you know, mile or whatever that
we're getting that we're not getting. I mean, it's just
it's complicated. Why is that your issue?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Well, one, are the first things that you do if
you are ever lost in the woods or in a
desolate area, The first thing you need.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
To find out is where the water is? Why? Because
it's the.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Things all life right. Then you build your shelter, then
you get your fire going on and so forth and
so on. The reason why the water is important, first,
let me tell you this. There is no such thing
as a complex solution. It's just complex people that make
that solution complex. And so if we begin to us
ran a new era where we actually start to see
(08:24):
each other as people. And actually, whether you're on the
Democrat side or Republican side, notice that I don't stay
far left and for right because we need to divorce
ourselves with them. We should understand that hey, you might
be on that stream, I might be on this river,
but we're all coming together into the final destination, which
should be the same ocean. And so when we have
that type of ideology and philosophy, you know, then we
(08:47):
can actually move together to solve problems. But in speaking
of the water, you know, well easy, all you gotta
do just print another path.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
All you gotta do is just talk about we have
so much technology that we don't use. I mean, there's a.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Desalidation one of the biggest desalidation plants, and they'll pass
through Texas. We can definitely just go over to Texas
and get New Mexico, Kansas, I mean, all the other
states in credit newpack bring that water over here.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And why is water so important? Again?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Water sustains life. So you have water here Number one,
that increases jobs. Two, it gives you the ability now
to actually divorce they are actually free up a lot
of the river water for the farmers and the ranches solely.
While we take this water and we expand Colorado down
in the south right, creating new towns, new cities, and
(09:37):
you know, actually help decrease housing.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I mean, Colorado isn't overpopulated.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
We're oversaturated why because our water limits us to locations.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
That is a really interesting idea. I mean that is, sir,
are you talking about pipelines? I like to how do
we get the salt water up here? I'm not opposed
to desalinization. I think it is an idiotic thing that
California still gets water from the Colorado River when they
could be desalinating the entire Pacific Ocean and solving so
many problems. So I that is a super interesting idea.
(10:10):
I don't know how feasible that is in terms of
the sort of infrastructure investment. What I think might be
the case here, Josh, is that I think it's gonna
have to get a lot worse before we can really
consider the kind of stuff you're talking about, you know
what I mean, Like, it's not bad enough yet for
us to talk about doing a massive project of that size,
(10:34):
But I mean realistically, if you could pipeline up, like
a really big pipeline starting at the gulf, pipeline up
the water and as it comes up, you could send
it off to various desalinization plants.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Along the way.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
That solves a whole lot of problems for our water
system here. So that's a very interesting idea one of
the things that I hope and I'm just gonna say
this to you and you can do with it what
you will.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
What are your voice? What are your views on the
social issue hues?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And I'm not asking what your view on each issue is,
I'm asking you how much a part do you want
social issues to be a part of your campaign?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Barely any I one to believe that legislation should not
be in our homes. There are plenty of walls about that.
And at the same time, we are struggling to meet.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
To meet any kind in this meat.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
When it comes to feeding our family, providing housing, taking
care of one another. If we were actually to increase
the integrity of our education system, if we spend more
time focusing on generational wealth and rewarding.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
People for their hard work.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I'm almost certain that you would see a lot of
social issues die down, because again, if we continue to
go on this path of I disagree with one thing
that you say, I hate to dislike all of you.
That is not good for a country that is built
on a fundation of wife, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
You know, and we are.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I mean, political identity is probably one of the greatest
existential threats to our sovereignty today.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
See I think I understand what you're saying there, But
for me, it's the tribalism that goes along with that identity, right,
Like you could be a rock ribbed conservative and still
not be tribal. It's like, you know, my father, I
will tell you my father was as conservative as the
day is long. I mean, he used to say, you know,
he loved rush Limbab, but he was a little too
liberal for my dad kind of thing. But at the
(12:36):
same time, my dad wasn't afraid to criticize people in
the party for various things. It wasn't just you're not
conservative enough, it was policy specific. So I just I'd
like to see the tribalism go out of that. We
have Texters coming in on the text line. Colorado has
plenty of water. We just don't have enough water storage.
(12:58):
They've been arguing about the glade were for forty years now.
If you were governor, what would you do in terms
of water storage?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Well, one, I'm not going to get on air and
act like I know everything. That's the first thing I'm
not going to do. Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Second, I would definitely read all the literature I can
to make myself at least strong in the premise of
the situation. But I would lean on subject matter experts.
And again, the better question is why is it for years?
Is because of all the infighting and a state legislation?
(13:35):
Is it people just can't get along?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Again, you said something that is true, but I would
definitely want to push back on it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Why do we have to wait till things get too
bad to fix on now?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Well I wish it wasn't that way, But I've also
been watching professionally watching politics for twenty years now. This
is my job, and I can tell you how these
things play out, and this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
This is my prediction. We're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
To wait until the entire front range almost dries up
so politicians can take an idea that you have today
at some unknown point in the future and at the
last minute create a huge problem, then swoop in to
save it in a way that would have been much
cheaper and much more effective if they'd done it earlier,
and then they will claim credit for saving the front
range with water. That's how it's going to play out,
(14:27):
because they want to be able to fund all their
other priorities. First, speaking of which, I want to tap
the one issue on your website and you can find
out more about Joshua at Joshua Griffin the number four
coeo dot com. And I put a link on the
blog so you can just go to mandy'sblog dot com
and find it.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
The one area.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Joshua where I was like, oh, child, please know this
is bad, bad, bad, And that is building a lightrail
and underground transit system. I mass transit is a boondoggle
that never pays off. It only pays off developers and
people who are lucky enough to buy the land before
they sell it at inflated prices to someone else. And
if you listen to my show, I don't care if
(15:05):
you listen to any other time. You listen with my
futurist Thomas frayes On and we talk about the future
of transportation. Self driving cars, things of that nature are
going to completely fundamentally change how we move from point
A to point B. And light rail and all of
this stuff is going to be completely useless.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Other than for cargo.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So please reconsider that, and I can get you to
some experts if you want to rely on someone. But
other than that, you got a lot of good stuff
on here other than water. What is your favorite thing
to talk about? What is your passion issue?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Uh, definitely generational wealth.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And let me touch a little bit on the light
rail or the high speed rail system. So in a military,
whenever you do anything in a mission or as far
as planning admission, everything's in phases, right, and the each
phase is conditioned on the next phase and so forth.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And soul one. That is a novel idea that we
have because it goes off.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I twenty five understands the congestion in that understands that
the dangers of going to Denver to for Collins or
call it all springs is very prevalent. So when we
talk about that, that is probably the last phase. But again,
I'm not going to tell people I promise to do everything,
but one thing I will say is I promise to
(16:21):
listen and always do the most common sense action. But
as far as my favorite thing to talk about.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Is increasing generation of wealth, which means we.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Really, if you look at our model, we really think
that it would be beneficial to all people to create
a sovereign wealth fund to actually, you know, really looser regulation,
increase our output, create a corporate like entity even in
Colorado that actually we will bring in corporations to come in,
will foster stronger small businesses, like we really want to
(16:51):
be a small business advocate and champion in the established
cities and towns. And then actually with the water expand Colorado,
build more towns or expand or establish them bigger.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And then whether it is.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
That instead of relying on taxes all the time, we
invest in ourselves and kind of like the tabor instead
of at Taber is, Hey, you can only expend this much,
and once we reach this cap, we either have to
give it back to you or we have to decide
what to do it with the sovereign FUM wall say, okay,
we have gained x amount people, what do you want
(17:28):
to do with this? You want to go ahead and
expand this area? Will give some people, or we can
even do the the Nermad model, the Elasta model, where
we put money back in people's pockets. That's what I
really care about because hear me, and hear me well
beyond existentialisms of far.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Left, far right and all the kind of jazz, and then.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You know, we understand the the fraguency of the media,
at least the legacy media.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Today.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
One of the last last strongholds of our sovereignty in
our republic is small business, the ability to actually work
hard and retain something for you and your family.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And we stop all small businesses and we just spifle it.
What you're going to see is the middle class the
window to none existent.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And then we will truly have a taradical force where
we'll have the wealthy commandering and just literally controlling the poor.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And that's one thing we don't want.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Okay, I need more on that.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
That sounds I need more details on that particular aspect.
You're listening to Joshua Griffin. A lot of people are
now having a very spirited discussion about desalinization. So that's
kind of an idea that I had had not thought
of before this person. You know, you guys are getting
into the details, and I want to kind of We've
got one more question and I'm trying to figure out
(18:46):
where I want to. Oh, you want to talk about
restoring law and order in Colorado. And I believe that
this is a compelling message. But I just realized what
time it is, Joshua, give me your your elevator speech.
Why should people vote for you in the in the
prime Mary for governor?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
My whole life, protecting and certain And that's what I
want to continue to do. And I want to say, besides,
the governor's race was also equal, is the race for
ag We need somebody to come in and work with
the governor. Let's pray it that it is us. And
let's actually give people a state where people can walk
at night and not fear for their lives. Let's give
a state where people are not coming daring apartments, where
(19:24):
we're actually holding people to the law, but not just
in its tyrannical force. We're giving people the ability to
actually uplift one another and adhere to the social contract
of creating sustaining justice.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
That's Joshua Griffin.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You can find his website Joshua Griffin for the Number
four COO dot com. I also put a link on
the blog. Joshua, great first interview on the show, and
I'm sure I'm gonna be talking to you again because
this is gonna be a long race, so we will
talk to you one more time.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Thanks for making time for me today.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Thank you, mam.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
All Right, that is Joshua Griffin. He is running for
governor
I am pleased to have with me the first candidate
that we've talked to while we talked to Greg Lopez,
and I don't know a lot about Joshua Griffin. I
do know that some of his policy positions espoused on
his website Joshua Griffin forco dot Com, I absolutely love.
But there's one that's stuck in my crop. But we'll
talk about it in a moment. Welcome to the show, Joshua.
(00:21):
Welcome to the show, and tell me a little bit
why you decided you wanted to put your face in
the wood chipper of goubernatorial race.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, first of all, thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm always gonna say us, because it's not just me
here is everybody that's standing with me and supporting me
that has brought me here.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Been in the military, it's been about two decades fighting
in hot desert, you know locations. And also I grew
up in Houston, Texas, you know, so you can only
imagine the heat down there as well. So when I
got stationed here almost like twenty fifteen, you know, I
fell in love with Colorado, the beauty, the people. I mean,
(01:04):
during that time, we had a culinary boom. So anyway,
so me and my wife, you know, I'm a wife here,
we had a children here, and we want to stay here. However,
it is becoming so bad for housing, small businesses, crime,
et cetera. That is becoming a place that we don't
want to raise our kids anymore. And instead of just
telling and running away and saying all right, we're done
(01:27):
with this place to go somewhere else. You know, I'm
a fighter by nature, and I always want to protect
and certain people. I want to continue my service or
this country, and if that means serving us a country
and the protecting capacity of being a state legislator, a
Mostorian candidate, I really believe, don't push your problems to
somebody else to run from them.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Stand there, dig in, fight in to help everybody else.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I love that attitude.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Tell me a little bit about you, you personally and
why or how you got to be this guy that
we're seeing now.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Oh man, travel and arrow, loads of mistakes, loads of humility.
I think the biggest things that you know, I'll want
people to understand about me is that Number one, I
am an obsessed fauther. I am a loving, endearing, never
make the marks all the time. But what husband does
to my wife, I mean, she's borgeous, beautiful and what
(02:20):
a wonderful, wonderful supporter. And you know, I can't speak
enough about my wife.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I'm a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I don't get too much into the cliches of what
I've done in the military because at the end of
the day, I wasn't special in the military.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It was the people that was special in the military.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
And you know, one thing we learned special operations is
that you're not special. Is the mission that's special. Is
the people that you serve and protect that are special.
In last, but not least, you know, I'm somebody that
inspires to see other people happy, to see other people smile,
and not get caught up into twenty percent that we
disagree in, but live within the eighty percent that we
(03:00):
can learn to love and acknowledge and Respectulism.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
You know, I'm I want to know what makes you,
What is your sort of your guiding compass that makes
you because because some of your policy positions are extremely conservative,
you know, fiscally, foundationally, very conservative in their methodology, and
I love that, I really do. But you also seem
to have the ability or the desire to take care
(03:27):
of families in this state in a way that doesn't
necessarily And I'm not saying conservatives are heartless and don't
care about families, but using things in the power of
government in order to assist families as well. So where
would you put yourself on the political spectrum? You are
a Republican, But where would you say.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You are from?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You know, center right to h as far right as
you can imagine. Where would you put yourself?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Uh? Nowhere?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I think we I don't think actually, Rather, I know
we make a mistake and talk about where we stand
on the on the line of the spectrum when there
are multifacets of that spectrum that you're going to be
embedded in, you know, whether it is social, economics, family,
I mean, infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
There's so much.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And so that's why we dub the philosophy foxhole politics,
because we're not telling.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You that we're anywhere on the spectrum.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Our main tenants are defending the base, helping each other
out and living in a space where we can actually
complete the mission and help each other come back home
to where it's safe and just pleasing and something I
want to put out there, Yes, I am a Republican,
and yes, I have some very conservative views and some
(04:44):
would say some you know, borderline libertarian things.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And I do have a heart for people, very very
much so for children.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I put it like this, we need to stop with
the political identities.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We have to stop that, we have to stop with
the extremisms.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
And something that we're doing in our campaign is that
we want to help birth the age of political togetherness,
you know, a unity under the one tribe of USA
and give each other the space to divorce ourselves from
the extremes.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You have a career as an attorney, you have a
career in the military. What would you say to people
who say, look, this guy hasn't run anything as big
as the state of Colorado. I mean, he's not a politician.
He doesn't understand how the system works because he's outside
of it.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
How do you respond to those kind of criticisms.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, I mean, maybe a little player.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I am not an attorney, although I was a Bears
lawyer jokingly.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
No, I'm an engineer by trade. That's my company. We
do a lot of own aircraft engineering stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But to get to the point of the criticism that
you say, the first point I wipe that is so
I was young enough to go fight for our country
and lead our sons and daughters in battlefields to potentially
die for our country, but I'm not old enough to
help lead our country within its borders. To me, that
(06:15):
seems very oxymoronic and very selfish if you will that, Hey,
you're good enough to die.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
For us, but you're not good enough to help lead us.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So what makes what makes my leadership and the battlefield
different than my leadership here?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Which a lot of people say.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Although it may not be physical at most times, you know,
it is a battle field of thought, a battle field
of unity and complexity, and at the end of the day,
you know, they say that the definition of a sanity
is doing something over and over again expecting a different result.
I ask people that are listening to us right now,
(06:53):
how many politicians have you voted for with the understanding
that they say, hey, I can fix this. But yet
they've been in the they are part of the problem
for at least a decade.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And so that's that's my pushback in those type of criticisms.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
What do you think is the biggest issue that you
want to tackle first? If you become governor what is
the first thing that you're like, we have got to
fix this water?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Really, h two O water in what?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
In what way? I mean? We we've got the Colorado
River Compact. And I don't want to go too details
here because I will tell you this my experience, as
the talk show host says, when you talk about water,
people's eyes glaze over.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
We all know it's important, right it theoretically we all
know it's.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Important, but it is such, it's really dense, and it
is a it is a you know, when you're talking
about water rights and water compacts and how much you
know square foot by you know, mile or whatever that
we're getting that we're not getting. I mean, it's just
it's complicated. Why is that your issue?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Well, one, are the first things that you do if
you are ever lost in the woods or in a
desolate area, The first thing you need.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
To find out is where the water is? Why? Because
it's the.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Things all life right. Then you build your shelter, then
you get your fire going on and so forth and
so on. The reason why the water is important, first,
let me tell you this. There is no such thing
as a complex solution. It's just complex people that make
that solution complex. And so if we begin to us
ran a new era where we actually start to see
(08:24):
each other as people. And actually, whether you're on the
Democrat side or Republican side, notice that I don't stay
far left and for right because we need to divorce
ourselves with them. We should understand that hey, you might
be on that stream, I might be on this river,
but we're all coming together into the final destination, which
should be the same ocean. And so when we have
that type of ideology and philosophy, you know, then we
(08:47):
can actually move together to solve problems. But in speaking
of the water, you know, well easy, all you gotta
do just print another path.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
All you gotta do is just talk about we have
so much technology that we don't use. I mean, there's a.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Desalidation one of the biggest desalidation plants, and they'll pass
through Texas. We can definitely just go over to Texas
and get New Mexico, Kansas, I mean, all the other
states in credit newpack bring that water over here.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And why is water so important? Again?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Water sustains life. So you have water here Number one,
that increases jobs. Two, it gives you the ability now
to actually divorce they are actually free up a lot
of the river water for the farmers and the ranches solely.
While we take this water and we expand Colorado down
in the south right, creating new towns, new cities, and
(09:37):
you know, actually help decrease housing.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I mean, Colorado isn't overpopulated.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
We're oversaturated why because our water limits us to locations.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
That is a really interesting idea. I mean that is, sir,
are you talking about pipelines? I like to how do
we get the salt water up here? I'm not opposed
to desalinization. I think it is an idiotic thing that
California still gets water from the Colorado River when they
could be desalinating the entire Pacific Ocean and solving so
many problems. So I that is a super interesting idea.
(10:10):
I don't know how feasible that is in terms of
the sort of infrastructure investment. What I think might be
the case here, Josh, is that I think it's gonna
have to get a lot worse before we can really
consider the kind of stuff you're talking about, you know
what I mean, Like, it's not bad enough yet for
us to talk about doing a massive project of that size,
(10:34):
But I mean realistically, if you could pipeline up, like
a really big pipeline starting at the gulf, pipeline up
the water and as it comes up, you could send
it off to various desalinization plants.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Along the way.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
That solves a whole lot of problems for our water
system here. So that's a very interesting idea one of
the things that I hope and I'm just gonna say
this to you and you can do with it what
you will.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
What are your voice? What are your views on the
social issue hues?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And I'm not asking what your view on each issue is,
I'm asking you how much a part do you want
social issues to be a part of your campaign?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Barely any I one to believe that legislation should not
be in our homes. There are plenty of walls about that.
And at the same time, we are struggling to meet.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
To meet any kind in this meat.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
When it comes to feeding our family, providing housing, taking
care of one another. If we were actually to increase
the integrity of our education system, if we spend more
time focusing on generational wealth and rewarding.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
People for their hard work.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I'm almost certain that you would see a lot of
social issues die down, because again, if we continue to
go on this path of I disagree with one thing
that you say, I hate to dislike all of you.
That is not good for a country that is built
on a fundation of wife, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
You know, and we are.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I mean, political identity is probably one of the greatest
existential threats to our sovereignty today.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
See I think I understand what you're saying there, But
for me, it's the tribalism that goes along with that identity, right,
Like you could be a rock ribbed conservative and still
not be tribal. It's like, you know, my father, I
will tell you my father was as conservative as the
day is long. I mean, he used to say, you know,
he loved rush Limbab, but he was a little too
liberal for my dad kind of thing. But at the
(12:36):
same time, my dad wasn't afraid to criticize people in
the party for various things. It wasn't just you're not
conservative enough, it was policy specific. So I just I'd
like to see the tribalism go out of that. We
have Texters coming in on the text line. Colorado has
plenty of water. We just don't have enough water storage.
(12:58):
They've been arguing about the glade were for forty years now.
If you were governor, what would you do in terms
of water storage?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Well, one, I'm not going to get on air and
act like I know everything. That's the first thing I'm
not going to do. Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Second, I would definitely read all the literature I can
to make myself at least strong in the premise of
the situation. But I would lean on subject matter experts.
And again, the better question is why is it for years?
Is because of all the infighting and a state legislation?
(13:35):
Is it people just can't get along?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Again, you said something that is true, but I would
definitely want to push back on it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Why do we have to wait till things get too
bad to fix on now?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Well I wish it wasn't that way, But I've also
been watching professionally watching politics for twenty years now. This
is my job, and I can tell you how these
things play out, and this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
This is my prediction. We're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
To wait until the entire front range almost dries up
so politicians can take an idea that you have today
at some unknown point in the future and at the
last minute create a huge problem, then swoop in to
save it in a way that would have been much
cheaper and much more effective if they'd done it earlier,
and then they will claim credit for saving the front
range with water. That's how it's going to play out,
(14:27):
because they want to be able to fund all their
other priorities. First, speaking of which, I want to tap
the one issue on your website and you can find
out more about Joshua at Joshua Griffin the number four
coeo dot com. And I put a link on the
blog so you can just go to mandy'sblog dot com
and find it.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
The one area.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Joshua where I was like, oh, child, please know this
is bad, bad, bad, And that is building a lightrail
and underground transit system. I mass transit is a boondoggle
that never pays off. It only pays off developers and
people who are lucky enough to buy the land before
they sell it at inflated prices to someone else. And
if you listen to my show, I don't care if
(15:05):
you listen to any other time. You listen with my
futurist Thomas frayes On and we talk about the future
of transportation. Self driving cars, things of that nature are
going to completely fundamentally change how we move from point
A to point B. And light rail and all of
this stuff is going to be completely useless.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Other than for cargo.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So please reconsider that, and I can get you to
some experts if you want to rely on someone. But
other than that, you got a lot of good stuff
on here other than water. What is your favorite thing
to talk about? What is your passion issue?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Uh, definitely generational wealth.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And let me touch a little bit on the light
rail or the high speed rail system. So in a military,
whenever you do anything in a mission or as far
as planning admission, everything's in phases, right, and the each
phase is conditioned on the next phase and so forth.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And soul one. That is a novel idea that we
have because it goes off.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I twenty five understands the congestion in that understands that
the dangers of going to Denver to for Collins or
call it all springs is very prevalent. So when we
talk about that, that is probably the last phase. But again,
I'm not going to tell people I promise to do everything,
but one thing I will say is I promise to
(16:21):
listen and always do the most common sense action. But
as far as my favorite thing to talk about.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Is increasing generation of wealth, which means we.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Really, if you look at our model, we really think
that it would be beneficial to all people to create
a sovereign wealth fund to actually, you know, really looser regulation,
increase our output, create a corporate like entity even in
Colorado that actually we will bring in corporations to come in,
will foster stronger small businesses, like we really want to
(16:51):
be a small business advocate and champion in the established
cities and towns. And then actually with the water expand Colorado,
build more towns or expand or establish them bigger.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And then whether it is.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
That instead of relying on taxes all the time, we
invest in ourselves and kind of like the tabor instead
of at Taber is, Hey, you can only expend this much,
and once we reach this cap, we either have to
give it back to you or we have to decide
what to do it with the sovereign FUM wall say, okay,
we have gained x amount people, what do you want
(17:28):
to do with this? You want to go ahead and
expand this area? Will give some people, or we can
even do the the Nermad model, the Elasta model, where
we put money back in people's pockets. That's what I
really care about because hear me, and hear me well
beyond existentialisms of far.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Left, far right and all the kind of jazz, and then.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You know, we understand the the fraguency of the media,
at least the legacy media.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Today.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
One of the last last strongholds of our sovereignty in
our republic is small business, the ability to actually work
hard and retain something for you and your family.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And we stop all small businesses and we just spifle it.
What you're going to see is the middle class the
window to none existent.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And then we will truly have a taradical force where
we'll have the wealthy commandering and just literally controlling the poor.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And that's one thing we don't want.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Okay, I need more on that.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
That sounds I need more details on that particular aspect.
You're listening to Joshua Griffin. A lot of people are
now having a very spirited discussion about desalinization. So that's
kind of an idea that I had had not thought
of before this person. You know, you guys are getting
into the details, and I want to kind of We've
got one more question and I'm trying to figure out
(18:46):
where I want to. Oh, you want to talk about
restoring law and order in Colorado. And I believe that
this is a compelling message. But I just realized what
time it is, Joshua, give me your your elevator speech.
Why should people vote for you in the in the
prime Mary for governor?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
My whole life, protecting and certain And that's what I
want to continue to do. And I want to say, besides,
the governor's race was also equal, is the race for
ag We need somebody to come in and work with
the governor. Let's pray it that it is us. And
let's actually give people a state where people can walk
at night and not fear for their lives. Let's give
a state where people are not coming daring apartments, where
(19:24):
we're actually holding people to the law, but not just
in its tyrannical force. We're giving people the ability to
actually uplift one another and adhere to the social contract
of creating sustaining justice.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
That's Joshua Griffin.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You can find his website Joshua Griffin for the Number
four COO dot com. I also put a link on
the blog. Joshua, great first interview on the show, and
I'm sure I'm gonna be talking to you again because
this is gonna be a long race, so we will
talk to you one more time.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Thanks for making time for me today.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Thank you, mam.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
All Right, that is Joshua Griffin. He is running for
governor
The Mandy Connell Podcast News
Popular Podcasts
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy And Charlamagne Tha God!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Decisions, Decisions
Welcome to "Decisions, Decisions," the podcast where boundaries are pushed, and conversations get candid! Join your favorite hosts, Mandii B and WeezyWTF, as they dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often-taboo topics surrounding dating, sex, and love. Every Monday, Mandii and Weezy invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms. With a blend of humor, vulnerability, and authenticity, they share their personal journeys navigating their 30s, tackling the complexities of modern relationships, and engaging in thought-provoking discussions that challenge societal expectations. From groundbreaking interviews with diverse guests to relatable stories that resonate with your experiences, "Decisions, Decisions" is your go-to source for open dialogue about what it truly means to love and connect in today's world. Get ready to reshape your understanding of relationships and embrace the freedom of authentic connections—tune in and join the conversation!