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June 2, 2025 115 mins
Welcome Back From The Weekend!!! We Talk About The Best & Worst Parts, What Do You Do When You're Naked In The Shower And See A Stranger, Twisted Tea Strikes Again, To Sucker, We Spoke To An Awesome Listener, Jeff Hensley Drops By, & WTF Is Going On Here?!?!?!?
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weekend of a woman who was in a hotel, a
nice hotel, thousand dollars a night hotel. That's a nice hotel, right, yeah, Uns,
you're in New York, but I I think it's safe

(04:38):
to say a thousand dollars night hotel is going to
be a nice hotel. She's in. She's on a hotel
by herself. Door's locked, of course, not going showering, turns around,
shower doors open. A man dressed in a hotel employee
uniform is standing there staring at her, and she of course,

(05:02):
yells for him to leave. He doesn't leave. She keeps
telling him to leave, he doesn't. He finally leaves when
she tries to push past him and her naked body
brushes up against her, and then he leaves. She obviously
contacts the hotel. They delay involving the police, which we

(05:22):
can circle back to, and now she is suing them
for seven million dollars DANM. Seven million. I mean, I
get the sue. Let's sue.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Not a little much though, No, not when you're a
thousand dollars a night hotel. You got the money.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Oh so you're basing the suit based on how much
money they have, not on your violation.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Both worth she is worth it, it's worth it. That
is ridiculous. Why the police were not called instantly and
he not taken out in cuffs. Had that happen, she
probably wouldn't have sued because they would have taken her seriously.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Right, maybe let's just let's back up a little bit
before we automatically assume the hotel is responsible. RFID keys
are very easy to duplicate. You can buy the decoder
on Amazon and you can obtain a uniform. She also

(06:20):
could have been mistaken and just thought it looked like
a uniform. Okay, right, I'm just saying that maybe it's possible.
She contacts the hotel and they're like, who, we don't
know who this person is, right, we don't have anybody
by that name or that looks like that. And then
they go check the camera and the camera's like, we
don't know who that is, and they follow with you
know what I'm saying, like it could have been a scenario.

(06:41):
It's not like somebody was just in my room and
they're like, okay, they have to look at the cameras
and like, it isn't a step by step process instant.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yeah, but even then, the hotel is still liable for
some sort of security to prevent that from happening. Let's
just say it was a stranger who got a key
and a code, you know, made all that stuff and
then and then you know, snuck into a closet and
stole a uniform whatever, you know what I mean, totally
went in this guy's to go be a weird deo.

(07:11):
They're still liable for some sort of security they are
at the hotel. Especially at one thousand dollars a night,
you would think I'm not saying, you have to have
armed guards, right, but you still at least one guard.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I'm just playing the devil's advocacy. I am obviously think
there's some negligence here, but I'm just saying, she calls
the front desk. How fast is fast? She's saying they
didn't contact the police fast enough. How fast is fast?

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Oh, it should have been immediately. They should have hung
up the phone right then and then called nine one one.
I feel anyway, but islated in their room, then she
should have This is what I wanted to circle back to.
Why did she just not call nine one one herself?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
That's a very good question she should have. If I'm
calling nine to one one, then I'll let hotel security
know or the hotel. No, I'm gonna call at the
front desk. She's gonna be like, uh, what room number. No,
I'm bitch, I want somebody here this instant, right.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
So he left the room once she left the shower.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
It says that while she was showering at this hotel,
a male employee entered the room, opened the shower door,
stared at her while she was naked. He remained in
the room despite her repeated demands that he leave, only
exiting after brushing against her unclothed body. Notice it doesn't
say naked. So she then states hotel management delayed police notification,

(08:36):
providing misleading statements to law enforcement, and allowed critical forensic
evidence to be destroyed. As a result, the PLANEFF continues
to suffer from severe psychological distress, requiring ongoing medical care.
I have no doubt it was traumatic for her. I
have no doubt. I'm just saying it just because they
wear gray shirts there, and you see someone in a

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gray shirt might not mean they were an employee.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Right as you read that again, it's a great possibility
that this person is an employee, housekeeping employee thought that
you know, it goes in there to you know, fluff
the pillow and you know, dust your head or whatever.
Didn't realize that somebody was in the shower, which I'm okay, fine, weird.

(09:22):
You hear water running, but I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Steam right, and then you know, opens it up and
then maybe there's a language barrier there. That's what I'm
getting at, and that's why he didn't leave immediately. I
don't think there needs to be much precise language when
you're closed and you don't know the individual and the

(09:47):
other person's naked to understand what you are. I I'm
never been a hotel housekeeping person. I would imagine that
one of the first things they cover is, hey, oh,
first thing that covers housekeeping, Well.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
The first sight of someone in the room, it means
you don't you're not welcome.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
I would think, yeah, but there's you gotta think like
as much shock that's there, right, you know, you know,
like he opened the door, there's a naked lady. We're
both kind of just frozen in time, and you know,
she yells get out of here, and he's like, I mean,
no company, you know, and he's still shocked. And then
you know, finally as as he gets brushed by her

(10:28):
boob and he's like, ah, hey, heal's meals and then run,
Why are you naked against me? I don't know. I'm
just trying to think of something that might cause that.
But there's really no excuse. It says this case represents
a gross violation of personal privacy and basic safety standards.
What's most egregious is not only the initial misconduct by
the hotel worker, but also the hotel's failure to act

(10:52):
appropriately in the aftermath. We're pursuing justice to hold these
defendants fully accountable to prevent future violations of this nature
in the h hospitality industry. Absolutely sue, Absolutely sue seven
million dollars. I do feel like it is a little excessive.
How if you're if it was locked, how'd they get in?
This is where I don't think it was a hotel employe.

(11:14):
If it's locked and you have the latch closed, they're
not getting in. The hotel employee is not getting in. Well,
even this.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Guy, even if he wasn't an employee, if the door
was closed and locked and the latch, you know, he
wouldn't be able to get in either.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
That's what I'm saying is that if it's a hotel
employee and they had a key to get in and
you latched it, there's no way that the hotel and
play can Nobody would That's what I'm trying to say. No, no,
you can break it. There's countless videos online. Oh I
never really paid attention, dude, I am a ridiculous I
don't know if you guys know this about me. When
I hyper focus on something, I'm hyper focused, and I'm

(11:50):
hyper focused on hotel security. Yeah, I got three women
girls that travel with me, and I'm super ridiculous about it.
I have an alarm and if the door opens, the
alarm goes off, right, And I'm just saying that I
know enough about that that if the door is latched,
hotel employees will not go beyond it, right, knows how

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to circumvent that, okay, and get around it, okay and
willing to and prepared to. And you go down the
rabbit hole. It's easier than you think. I never thought
about it, to be honest with you. How do you
get past the little latch cord?

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Google it?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Which I'm a good I PA.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Right, So I'm back to this. You've got an alarm
and it connects to your phone. Do you have like Anne?
Do you say it goes off on alarm your phone
or whatever?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
No?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
No, No, it's a it's a thing that goes out
the door, and if the door moves, the alarm goes
off a little censory. There's other things you can do
to know if people have been in your room when
you weren't there. Yeah, you can put tape on the
door handle, and if if it's moved, like it's been released,
you know someone's been in your room. Some people do

(13:05):
it just simple, like when they go to sleep, they
put a coin on the latch, okay, and if that
if it gets jiggled, the coin falls off. They know
someone tried to get into their room. That's fair. I
mean there are there's some crazy contraptions where you take
the hangars of the hotel room and a towel and like,
like they say you should put a towel at the
base of your door. Yeah, you do so the smoke
doesn't get out in the hallway if there's a fire. Yes,

(13:25):
but there are there's some people will use because remember
if you turn the door handle from the inside, it
unlocks the door. Yeah, and so there are some people
and there's a gap at the bottom of the door,
and some people will take a device that goes underneath,
like a slim gym to grab the latch and open
it and get into your room. I never thought about that, dude,
hotel security. I'm telling you, careful, go down the rabbit hole.

(13:48):
It's wild a little bit. It's wild now. It could
all it almost could never happen. But I felt like
we've read some stories we have.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
I've got one coming up that's kind of similar, But yeah,
who'd have thought.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
But going back to the question as to why she
didn't call the police and why she called the front desk,
maybe is because she, excuse me, did think that it
was a hotel employee and she wanted to make sure
that they didn't leave or get away before police were called. Yeah,
or she wanted to just leave it up to them.
This is your employee, Call the police on him. He

(14:24):
was just in my room.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, but you don't know the name of All you
can do is say, what, Hey, one of your employees
was in my room. I'm in room eight fifteen. Sure,
but how would they know where that employee is? Hey,
who was in eight fifteen?

Speaker 6 (14:36):
Right?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Right? How do they find that person? When that call
comes in? Lindsay, yeah, I don't I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Chut your doors. Don't let anyone leave the hotel.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
You can't do that. Yeah, I'm not the hotel and
I'm not involved in there's like no one can leave.
I'm like, bitch, watch me.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
She probably wasn't working straight. She was probably her mind
was all over the place because she was just feeling
completely violated.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, it's over two hundred rooms at this hotel.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, and we've established that it wasn't a hotel employee.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well we have, right, the story does not does not
allude to that. To me, the big factors are one.
If it was now what is defined as locked, that
means unaccessible, she says locked. But to her, maybe it
was just closed because some people because they know you've
got to have a key. Right. This is another thing.
People don't secure their rooms correctly either.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Well and technically anything. Once that door is shut behind you,
it's supposed to be locked. Unless you have a key.
You're not supposed to be able to open it from
the outside.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Right. But if it's really locked, no one can get in. Right,
That's the way I interpret locked. Locked means no one
can get in. I don't care if you've got a
key or not. That's how I interpret locked.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
A good bolt, flip the latch over, put a chair
in front of the door. Whatever, Right, Yah, secure the room.
It seems like a line. Just enjoy your vacation.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
It's not well. Also, you know what else? You know
what really gets in the way of enjoying your vacation
having somebody stand there when you're naked, because what do
you do? What are you gonna do. Let's let's go
through that scenario. You're showering in a hotel and you
turn around in some strangers there. What do you do,
lindsay you're naked.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Ure freak out, I have no clue.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
You throw a tiny bottle of shampoo at them and
take Oh I get there, you.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Go get Yeah, those tiny little bottles.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Start throwing little pieces of soap at them.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, grab a towel to cover yourself up, maybe spray
them with water. Scream as loud as you can.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I don't know. I'm sure she did all those things.
If someone's determined to see you naked, those things are
hardly And I think if you're going down like a
road of like I'm gonna do a crime, water miniature bottles,
you're you're mentally prepared for the confrontation. Yeah. Yeah, And

(17:09):
I could have ended a lot worse than what it did.
And maybe that was the plan. Who knows. I think
if that was the plan, he would have done it anyway.
I don't know that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
I was kind of work. I was kind of thinking
like maybe this was his first time and then chickened out.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
He botched the job. Yeah, yeah, but he's already bridged
too far. You. Yeah, maybe he didn't rape her, but
he's already committed a couple of crimes that are make
him going to the jail. So many textans. I have
a crazy hotel experience when I was working in OKC.
It's a long story, but essentially the hotel gave me
a room key to a tweet. I'm gonna think that's tweaker,
And they came in my room while I was asleep

(17:47):
in the middle of the night and tried robbing me.
I was unable to sue. How are you unable to sue? Yeah,
that doesn't make any sense at all. Did you call
the police? What did the police say? Another one? What
if it's an inside job. A guy's a friend. Guy's
a friend, and the entire thing is a scam to
settle out of court. Entirely possible. Oh you talking about
this gash or whatever. It's all okay, It's entirely possible

(18:11):
because people do lawsuits where they sue all in the
hopes of a settlement. Right, and seven million dollars that's
a big old payday. You get a settlement of a million.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, yeah, we'll start high, and then what we'll just
take whatever they write.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
They'll settle for something last. I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
It just depends. It depends if they're like, no, how much?
How long do they want to go through a lawsuit?
Do they want to take on one hundred thousand dollars
in legal fees or more? Or do they just go
here's a hundie, go away. Yeah, I don't know. This
person says, I used used to put two pieces of
scotch tape and a piece of thread in between the tape,

(18:49):
so when someone opened the door, it would pull the
thread out of the tape and I would know somebody
in my room when I wasn't there. Some people, like
when they travel that travel a lot, they you, they
have a camera that is in their room kind of
like a GoPro okay, and when it picks up motion
when someone comes into the room, like a deer cam
sort of thing exactly, And so then they get an

(19:13):
alert on their phone when someone's entered the room and
they have video evidence. That's pretty brilliant. Actually, Yeah, hotels, man,
I'm telling you do not go down this rabbit hole
and become paranoid. Y'all don't want to feel like that
would ruin your vacation, man, because you're too worried about
and I get a security it's a big thing. But

(19:34):
it's like you're too stressed out over security and worrying
and chicken little the bad, the worst thing's going to happen.
You don't get intoy a vacation. I mean, I understand
the point you're making, but it isn't like I go
on vacation. I'm on high alert already. I don't because
bad things happen when you're on vacation.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
That's the difference between you and me. I go on vacation,
not a worry in the world. I have more worry
sitting right here.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
I don't know, dude, you have no worry ever about anything.
So what I do worry is says something. But seriously,
I want to go on thick. I don't think of
any of that.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
At all, whatsoever. I'm just lott of the I'm here
on the beach having a good time.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, And if you do it a lot, it isn't
stressful Like I'm vigilant going to Walmart. You get used
to it, I guess, so to me, it's not stressful.
I have no problem being on highlert because you never
know when someone's gonna show up with a makeshift flamethrower.
Oh my goodness, right, that's a real news story, by
the way. Crazy that just happened. You never know when

(20:34):
someone's gonna show up with a makeshift flamethrower. Was mine
of my own business, and all of a sudden a
guy come out with the flames. I'm on vacation and
boulder like this is fun and like a god, I'm
not even a part of this man for real. All right,
we got to take a break and we've got tickets
to give away to see Lit and Fuel. We'll be back.

(20:57):
It's time for news quiggies. World news, local news, news.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
That just makes you say, what the Here's corby Gimbean
Lindsay with What's going on news quickies from the Big
Man Morning Show.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
In nineties out of five, A.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Woman arrested after outburst fueled by twisted tea. This happened
in Perkersburg, West Virginia, where police were called to a
neighborhood around Virginia Avenue on May twenty fifth. It was
on a Sunday afternoon. The suspect, identified as Tyana Martin.

(21:34):
She was spotted walking toward a patrol vehicle while holding
an open can of twisted tea, which of course, is
an alcoholic beverage. Officers noted a strong odor of alcohol
and observed Martin yelling profanities at her neighbors, including shouting
f all of you. Despite being told to stop her

(21:55):
disruptive behavior, she continued to scream and curse went off.
He attempted to place her in handcuffs, She repeatedly pulled
away and tried to walk off the sidewalk toward her residence.
She also threatened to run away further resisting arrest. Her
behavior remained combative during the arrest, and she refused to
cooperate with processing. As a result, police are requesting warrants

(22:21):
for the following charges, disorderly conduct, obstructing an officer, public
indox and failure to process.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Ah. I think she's gonna walk.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
She can't even keep her eyes open in her mugshot, I.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Could have caught her mid blink the right. Yeah, right.
I think those are all easily droppable charges. Yeah, especially
if it's the first offense. Oh, that ain't nothing. I
think maybe the biggest infraction is obstructing.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, those twisted teas can't have just one.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Apparently can't have twelve of them either, You getting fired
with the cups. Man arrested after breaking into woman's home
and sucking her toes comes out of Modesto, California, where
just past Friday. As a matter of fact, Christian, Alejandro
Salario and Gillano I had been stalking this woman for

(23:16):
a few months now, and I guess on Friday, he decided, well,
it's a good idea to go ahead and break into
this woman's home while she was asleep. So he breaks
into her house, makes his way to her bedroom, and
while she's sleeping, he licks and bites her toes. Well
she only woke up. You'd think after getting your toes

(23:37):
bit and that would wake you up, But apparently she's
a heavy sleeper and she wakes up when the man
tries to crawl in bed and laid down with her,
and that's when she pushes him out of the bed
and calls nine one one.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well he runs off.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Of course, the police come out, they question, They keep
an eye on her house for the night and into
the next day, and the next day that's where they
found Christian near the woman's home.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
They went ahead and picked him up for sexual battery, burglary, stocking,
and assault with intent to commit a felony. That's also
wild too. Yeah, right to go into someone's house. Yeah,
and just yeah. And I'm gonna say this too, like
we've had some like really gross photos on our screens

(24:22):
and things that I don't want to look at. You
picked the nastiest foot photo. I had to get it
off my screen. Dude, I couldn't look at it.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
I did that just for you because I was looking
for feet and I was like, that's gnarly.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Korman's gonna hate it so gross so much. I had
to put it on her twice. So when you open
up the article, pow, yeah, grunchy foot. I saw this comedian.
He was being asked like, what's the most offensive joke
he knows? And he's like, ah, offensive, Like what I
think is offensive, you're not gonna think is offensive. Yeah,

(24:56):
everybody's different. And he's like, do you mean like just
basic offense saying the nastiest jokes. I'll tell you when
during the break, the cemetery is being sued over misplaced
grave marker. This happens in La where a man assuing
the cemetery after being told his mother's grave marker was
placed at the wrong grave. Sorry the planet. Plaintiffs lawsuit

(25:20):
a llegis fraud, breach of contract, negligence, naget, infliction of
emotional distress. The complaint claims the plaintiff visited a grave
marked with his mother's monument for how long would be
too long?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Like?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
How long would be?

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Like?

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Okay, give him a break the cemetery, like, you get
to excuse the mistake? How long week? Okay? GIMPI I
was gonna say ninety days?

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Okay, you know they're busy, Well yeah, absolutely so, and
it's la yeah ect So give them days, three months,
I think is plentything after that? Get your ask together.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
So he visited a grave marker with his mother's monument
for four years. Oh that's way no, yeah. The recently
the cemetery informed him of the misplacement. The air was
discovered during another family service last month. The lawsuit says
the monument was moved to the correct site maybe, but
the mistake had caused the plaintiff to suffer significant emotional distress, shock, grief,

(26:28):
and ongoing mental anguish. The suit seeks unspecified damages seven million. Yeah, right,
well to get out of here. Man, this is horrible.
I think we all agree it's horrible. Yeah, right, it's
incredibly sad. But yeah, they weren't here. They weren't hearing you. No, well, okay,

(26:59):
sor been a funerals of my time? Sure, right, So
if my parents are dead, I've watched them go into
the ground. Yeah right, how come he didn't? You know?
You see what I'm getting at here?

Speaker 4 (27:10):
So so the grave barker's here, but it's not the
body that's in the ground. Is that how I'm reading this?

Speaker 5 (27:15):
Right?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
For here's the other part for this, like how like
was it one spot over? Yeah? Exactly five spots over?
How close are we? Was it on the other side
of the cemetery? Right? But my whole point is it
was just for you. Right Where you talk to them
in the ground really isn't relevant, now, right, They can't

(27:38):
hear you, they can't see you. Sure, so they can't
see you. If they were listening because they were enjoying
whatever milkshakes or whatever that happens up there or down there,
then like they would have heard you. Anyway, regardless of
where you're at, you don't have to go to the
gravesite to talk to your loved ones. That's what where
my take is on it. Should should they sue? Of

(28:00):
course they should. They breached the contract, But they heard
you the dead relative in this y, not the cemetery
because you know, yes, and not the dead relative his mama. Yeah.
Losing your parents, your mom and dad, is incredibly tragic.
Tell me about it. And I'm not saying they shouldn't sue.

(28:20):
I'm just saying, like, I mean, they still heard you, man, right,
It's like you go to church, you can pray. Not
at church, still hear you some of you? Right? How
much is an acceptable amount? A million? Yeah, it's la.

(28:42):
I don't know what that means. Well, they got more
money out there, sure they do, Sure they do. GIMPI
you know, quarter of a mill two hundred and fifty thousand.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
How much was the funeral and the burial?

Speaker 1 (28:56):
That's fair? Yeah, that's fair. How about Oh, we just
said out of court, you give me a couple of
free plots and a couple of free markers. We'll give
you some and we're good bogos.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
See, that's a much better deal.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Sure you can get the money, you can get the
million or quarter million dollars and you can be happy
for a little bit, but somebody will have to pay
for you when you go on the ground. So why
not just go ahead and wrap the end of the deal. Yeah,
maybe we'll throw in a free headstone.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Why not? So we do. When you go to the restaurant,
they message up, They're like, I will give you some
free apps on your next visit. Right, Like, okay, now
we're good. We're all settled. Free engraving. You still have
to buy the headstone, but we'll engrave it for you.
We'll upgrade it to a laser photo on the stone
of what you did not look like, or for some

(29:43):
of you, what they look like at the end, which
is a horrible decision. Yeah, right, match you a nice
heart shaped stone. Find the photo of like how you
when you look to your best I was thinking, like
because a friend of mine he's like having to start
to date, and so I was like, how do you
find the photo you want? Mad? I wouldn't know what
photo to use. When you ask other people, Oh god,

(30:06):
that's even worse. Ask some gal, hey is this you?
I saw this? Would you date this?

Speaker 6 (30:12):
No?

Speaker 3 (30:12):
See, everyone has an opinion.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, I don't know if you hear pick a photo
for me to put on a dating from here? Put
this Which one do I use in my headstone?

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Right?

Speaker 8 (30:22):
Right?

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Do the one with your cat? Or about the one
in your where you're pointing at that right? Like? Which
one do you use? I don't know so much anxiety?
Now use the one one. I'm in a hospital bed
dyang of ten on my one hundredth birthday, right all right?

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(31:47):
Worst of the weekend, what's the best thing that happened
this weekend? And the worst thing that happened this weekend?
Bmms and whatever that is to eight two, nine, four five.
We're gonna read those here in a minute, but lindsay,
what's the best and what's the worst of the weekend?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
So the best of the weekend was this weather, My goodness,
thank you for not raining on us some other nature.
We went to the lake and spent it at Fort Gibson.
The water levels dropped just a little bit and enjoyed
some time on the water. It wasn't too cold, took

(32:20):
the boat out, did some tubing, got some sun. It
was perfect, perfect, perfect. Got to spend all day yesterday
and we stayed. Drove out there Saturday evening so it
was just lovely. You go camp we did, oh, we
did no, I was. A friend of ours actually has
an RV there all year and he and his family

(32:42):
weren't using it, so he let me and my family
use it. So it was absolutely perfect. The worst of
the weekend. Early Saturday morning, I had my wax appointment
and which was fine. A girlfriend of mine had never
had a wax done before, and she was very interested

(33:05):
in getting it done. And I said, well, I'll see
if I can schedule you with me.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
She said, great, they do cut like you do it together.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Uh huh yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (33:15):
So you both just lay there with your coochies up
in the air. Yeah, yeah, are you serious? Yeah, you
both hold on, let me ask the question. Sure, So
you go and you both lay on.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
There's two tables, and you both lay on a table
at the same time, and she waxes both of you.
Your bottoms are naked in the same room.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yes, it's one table.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
You guys share a table. You both lay on the
same table at the same time, take turns, and so
what you just sit there in the room.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Uh huh yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah, mene all out, just ready to go for your waxen. Yeah,
you don't have.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
To go into the room together, you can wait. But
she had never gotten this done before, so she who
wanted me to go? Yes, Actually I did hold her
hand because she was so nervous. And I felt so
bad because I said, and she was very nervous going
into it, even prior, like a week ahead of time.

(34:13):
I said, nothing to be nervous about, I said, I really,
I was nervous the first time I went as well.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Expert. It was not even six months. It was.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
A lot easier than what I thought it would be.
I said, so you'll be fine. She said, okay. So
we get there and I go first, easy, peasy, And
I said, see, that wasn't so bad, right, And she
said no, I think I'll be fine. And she lays
up on the table and she's sweating a little because
she's anxious and a little nervous. And I tell you what,

(34:49):
it was like a forty year old version that scene,
only worse. She was screaming, her legs went up, and
I thought she was going to make a run for it,
and I think she wanted to. She said, I mean
everyone's pain pain tolerance is different. I can't do tattoos
because needles freak me out, but I can do a

(35:13):
wax and take that it's fine. She loves tattoos and
she has plenty of them, and she said, I would
rather be getting a tattoo right now. I mean, she
was in a lot of pain. She cried, it hurt.
She just thought it was a lot worse than what
she anticipated. I felt so bad. I felt so guilty

(35:34):
because I said, it's not going to be that bad.
But when it was all said and done with, she
did schedule her next appointment because she loved the results.

Speaker 6 (35:45):
So there's that.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Beauty is pain, so I did. I just felt awful
because she was crying, she was sweating, and oh for
me to say, it's really not that bad and for
her to go through that made me feel awful. She said,
do you hate me?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Do you hate me?

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Did you bring me here to torture me?

Speaker 1 (36:08):
I said, oh, not at all.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
I just felt awful. Oh but I was so glad
that she loved the results, So there's that. But I
just I felt so bad for her.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
I just can't get past the two people are watching
each other get waxes. That's so bizarre to am I
alone and not get beatn No, man, See, those are
those are things that guys will never do. Yeah, you
know if for one, I don't know if guys go
and get that downstairs area wax. Yes, they do some
of them that day. They do. I just assume shave
mine myself. But that's just me.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
But to go in there with your best friend Todd
and be like, hey, hold my hand while she rips
the hair off michelong, that just doesn't seem.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Or your crack, right, Yeah, it's just would you have
a girlfriend going your gaiano appointment? You?

Speaker 3 (37:04):
No, probably not why? I mean, if they wanted to come,
I guess if they'd never gone and they need, sure,
but not necessarily they will. I don't mind if they
wanted to come along. Sure, it doesn't bother me.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
No that it's so weird to me. I've gone with
my wife parts, so what that doesn't mean anything. It's
supposed to be a private thing. Yeah, no, that's why
they call them private parts. Right.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Sure, not taking my kid with me, but I'm you
know different.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Because my kid doesn't need to see my lady parts.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Again again, right, got you on the way out. But
he could go and learn. To me, that actually makes
more sense. At least you can be like, hey, this
is women go through this.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
No, they can, they can find out their own They're
on their own time if they want it done.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's just bizarre to me how many women like share
their private parts with other women, right again, something guys.
Guys just don't do that, would never flop it out
and be like, hey, take a look at this. Does
this look normal to you? I feel like I can
count on one hand the number of people that have

(38:25):
seen my privates in a non sexual manner. Most of
them are doctors and nurses, exactly. I can't think of
one friend who has seen my penis. I'm just as balls.
Oh okay, yeah, and likewise, yeah, yeah, I can't how

(38:46):
many people in a non sexual manner have seen your penis?
Caim be oh well, honestly, for me, it's more than
just doctors and nurses, okay, right, I'd say probably at
least a handful, a good handful, not you know, tiny hand.

(39:07):
What are the manners in which they saw your penis? Well,
that weren't sexual. It was pierced twice, right, showing it off. Yeah,
And that's where a lot of that comes from. You know,
at a party, you know, you tell a girl and
she's like, I don't believe it. Showed me, and everybody's
all there gathered around. Next thing, you know, your winger's
flopped out and you're showing them what you did. I

(39:28):
love that you phrase it like it's some surprise thing
that happens. It's like, next thing, you know, you got
it out.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
There was another time we were all teenagers, eighteen seventeen, eighteen nineteen,
something like that, and uh, my.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Buddy had just died. This is so weird too, right,
We're all gathered around and Pous just the start of
the story about how we're talking about have people seen
your penis in a non sexual manner? And he's like, well,
so my friend died, all right, So he died when
I was eighteen. So we're all eighteen at this point, right,
and uh, my friend had just died, and there's a

(40:08):
group of us, maybe about I don't know, ten of
us gathered at his house just hanging out, had a party.
It was in the late night, overnight, and one of
the guys Drew Haney. I love that guy. I called
him out by name. He's like, hey, everybody getting let's
get naked, and uh so we all did.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Next thing, you know, guys and girls alike We're all
just sitting in the living room my dead buddy's house, naked,
getting our ass germs all over his furniture.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Huh yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna let that, Hane.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
That's what they did.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
That's yeah, that's really weird. Do you know who you're
talking to?

Speaker 3 (40:55):
We all grieved differently.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Absolutely, he's out for the dead.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Another T shirt, Corbyan.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Do you think your girls will let you in the
doctor's office of their getting examined? I'm talking like fifteen
sixteen years of age their mom. Yes, but you I
don't know. It's up to them. That's their choice. I
don't know what I'm not going to force it on them.
Let me in there. Yeah, if they didn't have a

(41:32):
mom because some tragic event happened, who do you think
is gonna go in there with him? Right? Right? Yeah?
You got a point? All right? Best and worst of
the weekend? What's the best part of the weekend and
the worst part of the weekend? Gimme what's the best
and what's the worst. I want to say the best
part of the weekend would have been Friday night. Was
it Friday? It was a Saturday, Saturday, Saturday night. My

(41:55):
brother and I hopped on the bikes, rode downtown. We
watched went to the Okay cent Or watch his act
up and Dirk's Bentley and I'm telling you Zach Top,
which is really the only reason I went to that show.
I love Dirks, don't get me wrong, but I've really
come across zach Top recently, and I'm like, I love
this guy's music. Oh, he's going to be in town.
That's awesome, dude. Upper and Lower bowls.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
I've never seen this for an opener before, but both
Upper and Lower filled.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
For zach Top. I was so impressed. And he put
on such an amazing show, all right, And then we
left and then went and partied some more and I
went home. So that was the best part of the weekend.
We're going to watch him getting to see zach Top
and that whole experience. The worst part of the weekend
my oldest weasel, Dolly. She is fine.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
This is twenty five, so at least five to six
years old, right, and she's sick. I go to feed
the weasels and everything's fine, and I look at her.
She's a little slow moving and I'm like, no, what's
going on. I go and she is bone ass then,
and I was like, oh god, this, she's gonna die.
She's gonna die soon. So I've quarantined her from the

(43:13):
other five in there, and I'm nursing her back to health.
Right now, she seems to be doing really good. She's
moving around, got a lot of energy for being as
low as she was. And I just really I thought
she was gonna die on it because I was like,
they only live to be anywhere from five to ten years,
so she's in that range. And I'm like, oh, that happens.

(43:36):
It happens, but if I can prevent it, I will.
So I am currently nursing a sick weasel.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
What's the protocol for nursing a sick weasel? Or this?

Speaker 4 (43:46):
So way back in the day, I used to have
a Doberman right when she was like six, seven, eight
months old.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Now it all makes sense, Okay, size difference is kind
of crazy. But she got she came down really ill,
right and this is at ely twenties, mid twenties whatever,
and she wasn't eating, and I called the vet and
I was like, oh god, Vet, money, is there anything
you can do, anything you can suggest And he's like yes,
uh here's what you need to do for this dog.

(44:13):
And he's like, give her some some baby food with
like chicken and rice, turkey and rice something like that,
and Pedia lights, and I'll give her the electrolytes sawt
food easier for her to eat. Blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Well, I can't give vegetables and grains to the weasels
because they're there. That's bad for them. So I did
go get the Pedia light. So this is what I do.

Speaker 8 (44:36):
You know.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
I give her a bowl of Pedia light, and then
I take the dry food and put it in the
bowl and then I pour pedia light on top of
it so it softens it up and it's easier for
her to eat. And she's getting all those electrolytes in
there at the same time. And uh, you know, when
and when I started this venture with this particular weasel,
now I had to like get my hands in there

(44:58):
and like hand feed this fair. She was so weak
she could pile her head up into the bowl or whatever.
So I'm down on the ground with my hands covered
and mooshi weasel food.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
And she she went to town. She was eating it,
and uh, you know, I get drops of petlight down
into her mouth. So I know that she's getting anyhow
Uh so did that flavor of peda light does Daisy like, Uh,
it's Dolly Dolly, Sorry, Daisy is the dog anyway, it's unflavored, unflavored,

(45:31):
just regular plane, Jane. I didn't know they had so
many different guy damn flavors. Oh yeah, back in my day,
it was like grape and red and plain. You know.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Now they got like coconut and all kinds of different stuff,
but again just plain old regular pedia lint. And after
just a couple of minutes, you know, after feeding her
for just a little bit, she got a lot of
energy back.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Next thing you know, she's running around. I call her name,
She's coming to me. Blah blah blah. So I think
we're on the mend. That just sucked having to deal
with the fear that you weasel my day. And when
you quarantine from the others, is that like a separate
cage or yeah, well, the weasels will stay in their cage,
the ones that are not sick, and then the other
one because they have their own room, and so the

(46:09):
sick one just kind of wanders around the room and
has places to sleep and down it to don it's
just not in general population with the rest of them, right,
the threat to the others. Yeah, pretty much basically, best
and worst of the weekend. What's the best part of
the weekend and the worst part of the weekend. Best
part of the weekend for sure was the weather and

(46:29):
just being able to be outside and enjoy the mortgage.
The worst part of the weekend was my children's sink
drains were draining slowly, so I had to take them
apart to clean them out. I'm not someone who likes
to do the chemicals. Plus it doesn't help the septic
tank too much, so I have to you know, clean them,

(46:52):
hand clean them. And so when I got the drain
taken apart, this is how gross it was in there.
It looks like snot and mold and yeah, yeah gross. Yeah, yeah,
it was really gross. Bathtub drain or no. These are

(47:15):
sink sink drains and that doesn't take very long. It's
a very easy process to take take the the pipes apart.
Underneath the sink, it's just the smell and the Yeah,
it's really gross, but it works great. Now. Best and

(47:36):
worst of the week And what's the best part of
the weekend and the worst part of the weekend best
made green chili smoked pork enchiladas for one hundred and
fifty people. It was fun working with my wife. Worst
broke the spring of my garage door eleven hundred dollars
just to be able to get into my garage. That's
happened to me. Yeah, that's happened to me. That happened recently,

(47:57):
maybe not, maybe like a year ago. It happened and
I had just left for work and I had to
turn around and go back home because they couldn't get
my wife couldn't get the garage door open to leave, right, Yeah,
and I had to one of the springs broke. Yeah.
I don't remember what the spring ever breaking in my
parents like growing up.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
No, I don't either.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
That'll make them like they used to, right, Oh, they don't.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
And maybe it happened and we just didn't hear about
it because we were young. But yeah, it happened to
us right after we bought the house. Yeah, and they said, oh,
you might your other ones going bad too, You.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
May, They said the same thing to me.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, of course I fell for it. Yeah, go ahead
replace it so I don't have to worry about it.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Even when mine went out, I just called landlord, right, yeah, yeah, lucky, Yeah,
Best I got a new tattoo. Worst kiddo has swimmers
ere he's miserable. Yes, Best enjoyed the entire weekend, went
for a run, got qualified for fifty to fifty this morning,
and had water balloon fight. Worst was definitely pulled something
in my back from the Yeah fifty for fifty and

(49:03):
being fifty. All right, we got to take a break.
We got tickets to lit and fuel we're going to
give away and we come back. See what Gimpi has
in his four by four.

Speaker 10 (49:09):
Well corm It says here that the Senate to take
up the Big Beautiful Bill, a multi trillion dollar tax
and spending package nearly passed the House, and the Senates
will take up the measure this week, where Republicans can
only afford to lose three votes.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Democrats say the White House is trying to cut Medicaid
and other social safety nets by boollions of dollars.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Republicans say that they are much needed reforms to the
programs that will cut the deficit. After the Senate vote,
House lawmakers will have to approve changes to the bill.
It says here The DHS list of sanctuary cities taken
down following pushback from sheriffs. A list of so called
sanctuary cities released by the Trump administration last week is

(49:55):
being taken down, according to reports. The list of about
six hundred cities and counties was removed by the US
Department of Homeland Security on Sunday following pushback from the
National Sheriff's Association. The union said the allegation that the
sheriffs of those jurisdictions were non compliant with federal immigration
enforcements violated core principles of trust, cooperation, and partnership.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Archaeologists discover an ancient loaf of bread and turkey. I
mean they found croutons, right, it's a rock. Now, it's
like that video online. Ladies like you don't you can't
hurt me. When I was a kid, I found a
rock on the beach and carried it with me in
my pocket for years, and one day it fell in

(50:43):
a puddle and disintegrated and it was petrified poop. Oh,
that's hilarious. Like, how do you know it's bread? Right?
Somebody tasted it? Ew Archaeologists have found a well preserved
loaf of ancient bread and Turkey. The artifact was found
during the archaeological dig at the Kaluba Kalumba site located

(51:05):
in central Turkey. The loaf was unearthed last September, but
the discovery was just recently made public. The bread is
believed to be about five thousand years old and was
baked during Turkey's Bronze Age. Researchers say the bread appeared
burnt and was found buried under the entrance of a

(51:25):
home dating back to thirty three hundred BC. God, everybody's
given your yellp review. They find this bread and they're like, oh,
it's big, it's big. Right, how about you just found
bread that old? You're welcomed. Damn, can't even bake bread
right back in thirty three hundred piece, Get out of here.

(51:46):
You're the worst restaurant in town. Yeah, but your stuff
survives the future. And that's what people based the what
civilization was like, Oh look it's just chucky cheese.

Speaker 10 (52:02):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Saint Francis Health System expands to Roger County. Rogers County
Saint Francis Warren Clinic is set to open a new
location in Claremoort late later in the summer. Warren clinic
is expected to provide more access to primary and specialty
care for the community. The facility provides quality, team based,
comprehensive care and has full resources of the Saint Francis

(52:25):
Health Have.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
You seen this bread? Still on a little bread? I
just saw the story. I was like, that's funny. I'm
grabbing it. I'm gonna I'll put it in the screener
so you can see it. It looks like a chunk
of asphalt. It looks like they found a chunk that's
the bread of asphalt. Exactly what that is?

Speaker 3 (52:47):
That's road.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
They're like, that's a piece of roads.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
No tar, It's definitely not bread here.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
How do we know if it's bread? Get the in
turn right?

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Speaker 1 (53:36):
Good morning Gimpie, Well, good morning Corbyn. Don't forget.

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Speaker 1 (53:56):
In congratulations to Rick Hugh Kill. That's it of Tulsa.
Congratulations Rick, He's in the running for km ODIs fifty
for fifty celebrating fifty years of middle A Light by
giving you fifty pairs of concert tickets. You got to
qualify with us, although only with us every hour at
the Big Med Morning Show. It's all from Milla Light
in KMOD time for our listeners. Are awesome. On the

(54:18):
line right now is Hunter? Hey Hunter?

Speaker 8 (54:20):
How are you fun?

Speaker 7 (54:22):
Thank you? How are you good?

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Man? I need you turn down? You're ready for me? Hunter?
It says that you've been married ten years. How'd you
meet your wife?

Speaker 7 (54:31):
Well, we met at a restaurant. It's actually going on
twelve now. She'd be frustrated probably if she heard that
I said ten, but twelve years. I worked at a
restaurant before I went to automotive school, and then when
I came back, I started working at that restaurant again.
She was working there. I saw her, and I was like, man,

(54:56):
got to make that lady, my wife.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Were you in the kitchen or were you like a server? Like?
What come me?

Speaker 7 (55:03):
I was in the kitchen and she was a server
upfront and so so she actually worked with my mom
and my brother for about a year and knew them
longer than she knew me.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
So you, your mom, and your brother all worked at
this restaurant.

Speaker 7 (55:19):
Yeah, we did.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Is it a Was it your family's restaurant?

Speaker 11 (55:23):
No, it was not.

Speaker 7 (55:25):
It was actually just some friends of ours that It
was probably the closest restaurant to where we grew up
at and it was just a fun little place and
it was always busy and just an enjoyable place to work.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
How did you ask her out?

Speaker 6 (55:41):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (55:43):
Well, the first thing I did. I had a little
little cherry tomato. I was making a salad and I
was squeezing. I'm like look at this, look at this,
and I squeezed it and it popped that cherry tomato
right in her eye and felt bad. And she's like, man,
you you're a jerk. And I'm like, do you want
to go out?

Speaker 5 (56:03):
Like?

Speaker 11 (56:03):
Yeah, sure, I.

Speaker 8 (56:04):
Guess so romantic, I know, right, So we went and
we had Mexican food and from that day on, we
were together every single day.

Speaker 7 (56:19):
If we weren't working, we were hanging out.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
And you recently moved to Oklahoma from Colorado, right.

Speaker 7 (56:26):
Correct, Yeah, we moved here July fourth of last year.
I just wanted to change. We grew up in Colorado,
our whole lives. She was originally from California. I was
originally from New Jersey. But we both moved to Colorado
when we were very young, and our parents gave us

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a chance to live somewhere else and experience something else.
And we came down to Oklahoma for a motocross race
and we really enjoyed the people, like the camaraderie down here,
enjoyed the climate. It was just beautiful, different, beautiful from Colorado,
and we just had enough with having snow till July.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Right were in Colorado.

Speaker 7 (57:12):
We lived in Bailey where's that at. This is about
forty five minutes southwest of Denver in the mountains.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Okay, like near Manito Springs Colorado Springs.

Speaker 7 (57:24):
We were actually about forty five minutes to an hour
northwest of that. If you went up one twenty six
from Colorado Springs, you would basically end up where we lived.
Our front door was at ten thousand feet.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Wow. What was the best thing about living in Colorado?

Speaker 7 (57:45):
I'd say as a kid being able to run around
in the woods and just experiencing the outdoors. For my kids,
they didn't have that same opportunity because a lot of
people moved in and you couldn't run through your neighbor's
yard anymore being a kid and playing. They get really
mad and threaten your children, which we had about enough

(58:09):
of that. But learning to hunt was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah. It says here that you are you're quite the hunter.
What kind of hunting do you do?

Speaker 7 (58:20):
I'm an archery hunter for the most part. I do
a little rifle hunting, but I prefer to hunt with
a compound bow.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Yeah. That is a more challenging way of hunting, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (58:33):
I would say so.

Speaker 7 (58:35):
At the same time, it's I have a closer connection
with the animal, I guess, rather than hunting with the rifle.
I mean, they're both challenging in their own aspects in
the each way. But I do believe that I have
a closer connection with the animal when I'm closer ranged
and I can see their eyelashes, and just being that

(58:58):
close really really connects me to nature.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
What's your most proud hunt, Oh man, I.

Speaker 7 (59:11):
Have a prome horn antelope that I shot, and that
stalk lasted about two hours, and that was hands and knees,
belly crawling all the way to a windmill that the
animal was based up on this, like may say, was
feeding up there and just checking the wind And after

(59:33):
six days of unsuccessful hunts and stocks, that one was
really really a record for me. It wasn't a record
size animal, but I thought I thought I lost that
animal because I shot him at sixty yards and found
good blood trail and everything, and he took off into

(59:53):
the tall grass. And animal they're not very big animals,
so if they fall down in the grass, they're real
hard to find. Well, I lost the blood trail and
after about an hour an hour and a half a search,
and I called my wife and I said, I can't
find it. I'm heading home, and as I was walking
through the grass, I ended up stepping on him and
finding them. Wow, So there was Yes, it was very lucky,

(01:00:17):
it was. It was a lot of fun. By the
time I got out of there, my phone died. I
couldn't find my way back to the truck because it
was in the flat lands, and got turned around and
it took me a long time to get back to
the truck. I think I got back to the truck
past midnight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
And what's the biggest moment, what's the biggest hunt you've
ever had?

Speaker 7 (01:00:40):
The biggest hunt would be I have a high country
mule deer that grossed two hundred and nine inches in antler.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:00:51):
Yes, is massive. He he's like a small elk. He
has a thirty six inch inside spread on his antlers.
Main beams are huge. He was in velvet at the time,
so before they get their hard antler and I shot
him up not far from my house in Bailey, up

(01:01:14):
in the mountain side up there, and that that was
just that one ranked right now at ranks in the
top six hundred in the world for our tree velvet
mule deer in popen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Young, wow, and how long did you stalk him? If
you will?

Speaker 7 (01:01:36):
So that one I would watch that herd starting in
about July, and I always knew the bowl that they
would feed in, and they'd feed right around twelve feet,
and then as it came toward fall, they would work
their way down to the valley and kind of cross
our property to the creek and then work their way

(01:01:57):
back up as the upper wall where bulls would dry up,
and then they'd head back up the mountains. So my
wife called me one day because I would send her pictures,
and she said, I just saw the herd and there's
five of them. I said, no, that's not right. There's four.
There's a big nice four by four in there. And
she goes, no, it is the herd. And there's a

(01:02:18):
fifth one. And I just saw them walk into national forest.
You need to come home. So I left work and
she goes, he headed northeast, the other ones headed east.
So I headed up into the mountains, grabbed my backpack
and my bow and just started working my way up.
And I saw him about two hundred yards and checked

(01:02:40):
the wind. Wind was right, and he went down into
a little valley and I just kind of crept up there.
I'd say maybe about an hour and a half, taking
my time letting him feed, and he disappeared. And I
popped up over that ridge with my bow ready and
drew back, and he was standing there, and I had
sunk an arrow in him before he even had time

(01:03:02):
to move.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
And how long did it take you to get him out?

Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
Let's see, so I gutted him and I drug him
instead of carrying him. He was way too heavy for
me to carry. But to get him down to the
like a for service road, let's say about hour hour
and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Damn, that's crazy. And you have some other hunting records, right,
I do.

Speaker 7 (01:03:29):
I have another hard antlered mule deer that is within
It's in the top seven hundred. That one scored one
hundred and eighty one hundred and eighty one and one
eighth inches after deductions, So pop and young. They do deductions.
If you're spread is larger than your longest main beam, however,

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however wider it is, they deduct that from the score.
And if they go by symmetricality, so if one side
is one inch shorter than the other side, they take
off that one inch. So they go by net score,
but that one g or netted he actually netted one
hundred and eighty one in an eighth, so he was

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a very large year as well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
And then what other awards do you have?

Speaker 7 (01:04:20):
I have one which is by far probably my most
favorite animal. It's a mountain lion that I got that
with my best friend Bobby, him and I. He owned
mount lion hunting dogs and we would run cats throughout
the winter season. Sometimes we would just run them to

(01:04:42):
take pictures of them and or take other people hunting,
but a lot of times we would just run them
and see many cats we could track down in the day.
And this is hike and miles. Basically, you get up
one to two in the morning, you drive around and
the snow. You don't want a lot of snow, but
about an inch or two, and you look for fresh

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mount line tracks, whether crossing a road or a service
road or wheel drive road, and you check to see
how fresh they look, but where the animals going, And
then you grab the lead dog. And the lead dog
is the one who has the best nose. He's the
one who basically starts the other pack of dogs on

(01:05:26):
that trail. And you put that dog out there and
he smells the prince and when he howls a certain tone,
he takes off after it. And basically you start following
the dogs and you don't know where you're going to
end up or where they're going to tree that lion.
So it's pretty eventful. Our longest hike in was eighteen

(01:05:49):
miles when we started. By the time we treed that cat,
and it was eighteen miles and it was a huge,
huge tie which is a mail cat. And neither of
us bought any hunting gear that day. We both carry
a tag because in Colorado to run lions you have
to have a tag, have someone with a hunting tag,

(01:06:12):
but we ended up setting that one go.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Your hunting stuff is fascinating. We could keep talking about it,
but I want to hit two other I want to
hit try and hit a couple other things before we
run out of time. Here sound clip, but it says
here that you worked on an oil rig at one
point and you entered a contest to chug a gallon
of syrup or was that like just some of your buddies.

Speaker 7 (01:06:35):
And that was our company man. He was from Louisiana
and he was he was hilarious. He comes up one
day with a box of gallon jugs of syrup, and
he goes, I got two hundred and fifty bucks for
whoever could finish one of these. So I'm like, I'm in.
I'm in. I'm good at food eating contests chugging contests.

(01:06:56):
Let's do this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
How many tags, well hold on? How many of you
want to be able to make that determination that you're
good at those type of contests to give you the
confidence to chug the syrup.

Speaker 7 (01:07:08):
I won a wing eating contest. I've won a hot
dog eating contest, and I don't drink anymore, but a
beer chugging contest?

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
How many wings did you eat and how much time?

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:07:24):
I don't remember that was back in the day, but
I'm pretty sure it was like sixty wings and I
just had to beat everyone else.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Okay, what about the wieners?

Speaker 7 (01:07:36):
That was as many as you could get down in
like thirty seconds?

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Do you remember the number?

Speaker 7 (01:07:44):
I think it was five or six. And it was
without the bun, of course it was I basically just
glusy dogged them down.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Just open your throat and let it slide on it.

Speaker 7 (01:07:59):
You know exactly what I did with the seyrup too.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
And how long did it take you to chug a
gallon of syrup?

Speaker 7 (01:08:06):
It was like forty three seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
A gallon of syrup.

Speaker 7 (01:08:11):
Yeah, so anyone else I got so sick. We were
tripping pipe after that, and there was a guy down
below in the floor and he was unbolting the bop
and I just started puking down that hole and I
puked all over him. I was stick for probably five
or six hours. Oh, big time, big time. It was

(01:08:35):
a sugar rush like you wouldn't believe. And then it
was a crash and just projectile syrup being everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Sticky his vomit, Yeah, sticky, just everywhere, right, And two
hundred and fifty something a weird number to hit.

Speaker 7 (01:08:51):
Yeah, I don't know. He came up and he's like, hey,
two hundred and fifty bucks, And whoever drinks this?

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Were you the only one or were there others in
the group that did it? Well?

Speaker 7 (01:09:00):
I was the only one who finished it. Other guys
would drink like one or two drinks and start gagging,
and I just bottomed up it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Yeah, I don't think I could do it. When you
did the beer, how much beer did you do?

Speaker 8 (01:09:13):
That was.

Speaker 11 (01:09:16):
The pictures of beer.

Speaker 7 (01:09:19):
So I think I drank four or five of those.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Wow, So you just get.

Speaker 7 (01:09:26):
That was just a lot of boathing, okay, just a
lot of boping. It was like cors light, so it
was basically water. But yeah, a lot of people couldn't
do it because it starts foaming and it'd come out
their noses and they'd set it down. But yeah, the
key is just opening up the throat and going for it,
breathing out your nose.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
And diddle, we do it, says here, Just use that
technique from the weeder thing.

Speaker 8 (01:09:54):
Right exactly exactly, h it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Says here, Go me back up. Give me provided a
video that you shared with us about you in a competition,
and when I tell everybody what the competition is, everybody's
going to know you're crazy. But when I looked at
the video, the thing that I noticed is there's no
fence around the whole facility, at least I couldn't see it.

(01:10:19):
And you were in a ring of fear competition with
what like five other dudes, That is.

Speaker 11 (01:10:25):
Correct, and there were five of us.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
And so correct me if I get this wrong. But
they it's a rodeo and on the dirt they put
some circles and you got to stand in there, and
the last one standing in the circle wins and they
release a bull. What was the prize?

Speaker 7 (01:10:43):
That was five hundred dollars, So they failed to mention
to us that that bull was bred specifically for bullfighting.
He also did the poker table fights, and the week
prior had a different rodeo in Wyoming that bull had
killed somebody. So I'm all about this. I'm like, oh,
I can do that. They said, as long as you

(01:11:05):
don't step out of that circle and you're the last
man standing, you win. Well, I figured, okay, I'm not
going to step out of the circle. But first guy,
as you can see in the video, he turns and
runs right away immediately and he.

Speaker 11 (01:11:21):
He was out of there.

Speaker 7 (01:11:22):
That bull was nasty folman at the mouth, snock coming
at his nose, big horns, and after that he straight
toward me. So I'm not sure if you know this,
but when bulls and cattle charged, they closed their eyes.
So I had a four foot circle. I stood on
the left hand side of the circle, and when he ducked,

(01:11:43):
I tried to make a turn a pivot to the
left of the circle. Looked down there was the line,
so I stopped, and he managed to hook me with
his left horn and throw me in the air. He
got me hard and threw me in the air. I
was I didn't know what to think. I was just okay,

(01:12:07):
well this is happening. As I started to come down,
I thought to myself, I'll land and I'll turn left
and I'll just take off at it here it is
what it is. Hopefully I land in the circle. Well
I did not land. He grabbed me again, threw me
in the air before I hit the ground, grabbed me again,
threw me in the air, caught me between his horns

(01:12:29):
and tinned me to the ground, and then ran over
me as the the bullfighter came by and slapped him
on the nose and got him off me. And I
was not in the ring, and I got up in iran.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Now why did they give you a red vest.

Speaker 11 (01:12:49):
So that some guys didn't even grab vests? I ranted
them because two weeks or a month prior to that,
I got blown off the rig floor and broke my
pelvis and my tailbone. So I didn't want to I
didn't want to break any ribs. I was supposed to
get married two weeks from that date of the both

(01:13:13):
fighting thing, so I had to be in good shape. Uh,
but it's good about that. As my best friend sent
that video to my wife, I didn't tell her I
was doing it, and yeah, she called me and she's like,
you're serious right now. I used to be before I
had kids. I wasn't adrenaline junkie.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Yeah. I gotta tell you, man, of the things you've done.
You've done some cool things. You seem like a cool
cat man, but you make dumb decisions.

Speaker 7 (01:13:39):
Bro.

Speaker 11 (01:13:41):
Yeah, yeah, you know it's all.

Speaker 7 (01:13:44):
You got one life to live, so you might as
well try everything one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
That's true. But I don't know if you should have
speed it up though. I don't know if you should
be baking decisions that speed up the death part on dude,
it's fun talking to you man. We didn't even get
to talk about your son, and we didn't get to
get into motor cross, but I sure have enjoyed talking
with you, man, and thanks for taking the time and
good luck with everything.

Speaker 7 (01:14:06):
And Chris, thank you, thank you for the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
All right, buddy, have a good day. Man.

Speaker 11 (01:14:11):
You to take care of you later.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
It's hunter. Our listeners are awesome. We'll take a break
and we'll be back.

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
The Big Man Morning Show returns next Elsa's Morning showd Hey,
I get.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
I love the philosophy of you'll you know, you'll only
live once, but also so it sent me down a
rabbit hole of other events like that. And one of
them that caught my attention is you swim with an
alligator excuse yeah in Australia. I was like, damn, is

(01:14:45):
this like a toothless gator? Or yeah, you know what
kind of gator? We don't know. I don't know, I
don't know. And then these are some other ones. Uh,
wingsuit flying. I see a lot of people do that,
like a squirrel suit thing. That looks like fun. It's
fun to watch. Yeah, I kind of like knowing how
I'm getting down safely. Well, you're flying down, you let

(01:15:09):
your bat wings take you down. You see me drive
a drone? Man, I don't think that's a good idea, right,
skydiving of course, like but like almost like base jumping,
that seems okay, jeterfight right along. That sounds fun. I
would love to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
I am right there with you, and I actually contacted
the Air Force National Guard hinder see if that's something
they could get us.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
To do a lot of information that goes into it. Sure,
you know, but I think it would be awesome absolutely,
Like Blue Angels came here, I'd be like, yes, please,
I would love. One of my my neighbors is a
fighter pilot and he's like, I'm never doing that with you, Like,
well then you can't have any more beer. Uh. Storm

(01:15:54):
chasing tours, dude, Storm chasing tours is wild storm chasing
a necessary evil, right, the fact that we have storm chasers,
though it can become like a it's a little can
go rogue kind of. Yes, it is a necessary part
of tornadoes and the ability to know where they are

(01:16:16):
and things like that. So like, I think it's a
necessary evil. To make it a tourist event though, is insane? Yeah,
Like people are dying, right and you're like, look at
that one. Yay. Wild zorbing do you know what this is?

Speaker 6 (01:16:37):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Never heard of absorbing? Okay, you get inside a huge
plastic ball and then they roll you down a mountain.
I'm in. I've seen this, I've seen videos of it.
I'm in. I would totally do this hamster ball thing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Yeah, that's probably exactly what it is, like a hamster ball.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
I how about I hear that and I'm like, hell no.
The next one though I would do.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
I'd be throwing up on myself if I'm totally hamps.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Right, spinning out of control. So but I would do
the running of the bulls in Papolana, Spain. I would
do that. Here's the thing when people, because people always like, really,
I would immediately get out, Yeah, duck into it, because
then I can say I ran with the bulls. Bro.

(01:17:27):
You got out of the way before they released them,
so you ran two feet.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
You don't have to be faster than the ball. You
have to be faster than the people you're with.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
You hid behind a child, Yeah, I mean I wouldn't
hide behind a child, at least an elderly woman. I
would hope children and elderly women aren't doing it right.
I'm just saying I want to be able to do
it so I can say I did it. Yeah. Sure,
I'm I'm taking the first wherever the chicken exit is.
That's me that that year you decided to do it.

(01:17:58):
They're like, no chicken exits. You're stuck. You have no
choice but to run the entire time, and by the way,
I would still be terrified knowing I'm getting out before
they release the bulls. Right. Yeah, bungee jumping, I have
no interest in bungee jumping. I've thought about it because
I've been skydiving before and I see that it looks fun.

(01:18:19):
It looks like I'd probably try it once, just like
with Scott. I don't know I do skydiving more than once.
But yeah, yeah, I don't like I've done skydiving. There's
no need for me to do it again. Seeing what
happened with my wife's situation, I'm not excited about it. Right.
It definitely took the fun out of it for me
when she had to have an emergency landing. Not awesome

(01:18:39):
cliff diving, I'm out. There's no reason to do that.
I know plenty of people that get hurt doing it, right,
because you know, there's this whole thing you can't see
where you're jumping. Yeah, logs and sunken trees.

Speaker 8 (01:18:51):
Yeah. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Forty eight hour survival challenge where companies will take you
and drop you off in the wild with basic gear.
I might do that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
I do that. Yeah, I guess it's only forty eight hours.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
It's basically just camping for a couple of days, right,
I mean rough in it. I'm fasting for forty hours
real right, drinking dirty water, right, eating. Yeah, that's what
I'm doing. Escape and evasion courses. So it's like military style.

(01:19:27):
You're being hundred simulations. I've seen some videos like that
on TikTok. Yeah, I'm good past. Why just prove that
you can do it? I mean the idea that like,
because there's even like some training you can do on
training should you ever be taken right, Okay, I guess

(01:19:48):
that's kind of down the path of how am I
going to be in that situation? Right?

Speaker 10 (01:19:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
And by the way, am I gonna go okay, remember
your training? No everything, because people who are kidnapping me
in the name of a big cause, and I'm gonna
be like, okay, what was that thing? Hold my hand up,
move my art like huh yeah right? Uh? Tank driving

(01:20:15):
that sounds fun, yeah, crush cars. I have tried so
many times to talk to people about doing a big
boy sandbox where you work with like a big equipment
company and you charge money to come and you know,
move dart and stuff. Yeah, right, and uh, but the

(01:20:36):
money you charge like what twenty five to fifty bucks,
but it goes to charity for a big boy toy box.
Wouldn't that just be so much fun with me?

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
When they first brought back the Hummers to drive and
for sale, and that was the big big thing, you know, like,
oh yeah, you can get a Hummer. And they had
a track in Sioux Falls when I was living there,
and I took one out and it was really neat
to drive at an angle and stick your hand out

(01:21:06):
the window and touch the ground while you're driving.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
It would never do that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
Really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
The fact that most people like they have that for
you to try it out, and when most people who
own those vehicles never do anything like that. Oh no,
they're hauling soccer equipment children.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
At one hundred percent they are.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
And taking up two parking spots. Edge walking where you
walk on the outer edge of a and sixty eight
foot building. I would do that. I would do that.
I mean you're wearing support gear, like, it's not like
you're doing it by yourself with no safety net. Right. Yeah,
as long as there's some kind of safety harness that's
going to keep me from plummeting towards the Earth I'd
be in. When we were at New York, we went

(01:21:46):
to the oh, the Summit one Vanderbilt and they had
a room that you could go into and it would
they would lean it out, and I was like, hell's no,
did a human design? Yes? Then I'm out right because
things fail? Yeah. Uh. Volcano boarding what this is? You

(01:22:08):
ride a board down an active volcano? Was it actively
spewing lava? That would make it active?

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
Well, I mean active volcanoes meaning that they just robbed,
they are currently.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
And you're like surfing it down and ride aboard, not
surfing and says riding a board down an active volcano.
I stopped playing the floors lava when I was a kids.
Good on all that?

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Yeah, it's real life.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
And then the alligat the crocodile thing was called the
Cage of Death, where you swim with a sixteen foot
crocodile in a glass box. Just you in a crocodile.
Huh in a glass box. That seems dumb. Other people
can see you get eaten. Yeah, that makes I'm out
on that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
Maybe you're in the box and the crocodile's on the
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Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
And you can just be like Hey, look, can't get me. Uh.
There's another thing called rooftopping, which is a movie Lindsay
will promote at nine. You climb seize skyscrapers or cranes
without safety gear. Why abandoned building exploration. I see a
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I don't want to get stabbed by a hobo.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
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Good, extreme park or challenges park or yeah, in between
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terror lab where they'll kidnap you. Yeah, I'm good on that. Yeah.
Isolation tanks, no, right, but I can be alone. Cave diving,

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underwater caves with narrow passages. This you can watch videos
where there's like a hole and people just dive into
it and then you don't know where they come up.
I'm like halls, no no ice, climbing waterfalls, hm, escape
from kidnapping simulation, hard pass sound good? I'm good. Going

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to Low's right, right? Going to Costco on a Saturday
feels like all the thrill I need. Uh huh, you
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to go get some towels or sheets or something instead.
On a Saturday at noon, a garage sailing mating driving
one sixty nine at Berg Creek at three o'clock on
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in ninety seven to five KMO d join us. On
the line now is Jeff Hensley of Hensley and Associates.
Good morning, Jeff, Hey, good morning. Jeff's here to answer
any question you have about custody, guardianship, name change, any

(01:25:30):
family law scenario. He wants to answer it, So get
your question to us. You can call at nine eight
three three four six zero KMOD. You can email show
at kmod dot com, or text like this one from
was back from the last time you are on. It says,
my ex and I got divorced about a year ago.
We've been talking and thinking about getting back together. Is
there anything legal we need to do or redo if

(01:25:51):
we decide to remarry. Does our past divorce affect anything
going forward?

Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
No, I mean, the only reason the past divorce would
affect anything at all would be dealing with the issue
of you know, watching when the time frames kick in,
meaning you know, whatever was divvied up at the divorce
time was divvied up, and anything new from the date
of marriage to the data separation. Again, if there is
another divorce down the road, you have to watch for

(01:26:19):
that and make sure that the lines were clear. And
I will tell you it's not uncommon for people to
do this. They get divorced and then they're separated for
several years and then they decide to get back together
and then they're remarried and whatnot and very commons. So
we just have to make sure we have to watch
the timelines. But as far as that, it doesn't affect anything.
What was in the past is in the past. So
you know, if you can reconcile and do that way,

(01:26:40):
you know, more power to you and congratulations.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Jeff Finsley from Heinsley Associates Islawn with Us. If you
have a question about divorce or any family law question, guardianship,
name changes. Maybe you want to take your kid for
the summer and baby Mama isn't letting you or baby
daddy isn't letting you. He can answer how you can
navigate that right now. You can call it eight three
three four six zero KMOD, text bmms and whatever that
question is to eight two nine four to five or

(01:27:04):
email show at kmod dot com. This is an interesting one, Jeff,
and I'm not sure how you're gonna answer this. It
says this isn't really a legal question, but something I'm
curious about. Back when I was in high school. A
girl I worked with. Her parents were going through an
extremely ugly divorce. How ugly, her father decided the best
way to get back at his soon to be ex
wife was to kill their daughter by planting a bomb

(01:27:26):
in her car while she was at work. Fortunately, he
wasn't very good at it, so, uh, you just put
him in trouble with the law. They called the cops. So, Jeff,
what's the most unhinged pants on head crazy thing that
has happened in a divorce case you were involved in.
I'm not sure if you're even going to answer this, Jeff.

Speaker 6 (01:27:46):
You know, as far as unhinged, I mean, you always
have these people that threaten to take the child or
they try and run with the child, and you know,
we always get him back. I'm not had any really
wild crazy story. I have had one client, well, I
hit a case one time where the other side got

(01:28:07):
drunk and ran into a pole and it killed him
and so that made the news. And then I had
another client one time who we were in the middle
of his case and he was out walking a highway
near creek On near Sapulpa and he was run over
and hit and that made the news. So outside of
things like that, you know, sad things like that, I've
not had anything really crazy in or unhinged. I will

(01:28:29):
tell you. If you remember when there was a bombing
threat at the Creek County courthouse, father and son did it,
and maybe this is what they're talking about, but I
was actually in the courthouse that day when those guys
were caught with the bomb in the car outside. But
outside of that, nothing too crazy yet. Knock on wood.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
How do you handle a client or when your client
comes to you and says the other party either hearing
things like how do you how do how do you
handle people that are well becoming unhinged?

Speaker 6 (01:29:00):
Well, I mean we have to be careful. I mean
we also have to verify. I mean it's one of
those things that if they're making crazy threats, if they're
stalking you. There was just an article in the news,
I think it was in Colorado there's a police officer
who was stalking his ex girlfriend and he got arrested.
You know, a lot of those things kind of happen,

(01:29:21):
but you have to verify and make sure everything is true.
If it is true, then we have remedies and when
we have protective orders, that we can get for people
so that they can be safe. We can protect children
by getting emergency custody orders to take them out of
bad situation. So I mean there are some remedies at
the end of the day, though, remember that you know,
a protective order is nothing more than a piece of paper,
and it only has the power that it has by

(01:29:43):
people who are willing to follow and do what it says.
At the end of the day, if someone chooses not
to follow that paper, whether it's in place or not.
That's why you always want to be able to protect
yourself in some way and keep you and your family safe.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
Jeffinsley from his Lean Associates is on with us to
answer your questions about family law. A couple of ways
to get you your question to us. You can email
show at kmod dot com. You can call toll free
eight three three four six so KMOD, or you can
text it BMMS and whatever that question is to eight
two nine four five. This says, I'm I'm if I'm
granted legal guardianship of my niece, can her parents still

(01:30:18):
visit and have a say and how she's raised and.

Speaker 6 (01:30:22):
They visit absolutely in fact? Or can she visit absolutely.
In fact, that'll be something that the court will require
some sort of visitation in some way, whether it be
supervised or monitored or unsupervised. Obviously, it depends on what
the claim is. As far as having a say in
the way the child's raised, the answer would be no,
you are the guardian. You are the legal guardian. You
are the one that gets to make all of those

(01:30:43):
decisions as to what is in the child's best interest,
because obviously if a guardianship is in place because the
parents are making bad decisions, obviously they can't make their
own decisions, let alone child decisions for their children. So
it's one of those things that know they will not
have a say in how the child is raised, but
yes they will have visitation.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Jeff Finsley from Hensley's Associates is with us. If you
have a question about divorce or grandparents' rights or adoption.
He can answer those questions right now. And the way
to get your question to us is call at eight
three three four six oh kmod. You can text BMMS
and whatever that question is to A two nine four five,
or you can email show at kmod dot com. Like

(01:31:23):
this one, my ex and I actually agree on a
custody schedule for our daughter. Can we just write it
down and follow that or do we still need a judge?

Speaker 6 (01:31:31):
And you yes, should you you need an order from
the court. And here's why. All right, as we've talked
about many times before, Corbett, and you have said it
numerous times throughout the years that we've done this. You know,
it's fine until it's not. And I applaud people for
trying to get along. That's awesome, But at the end

(01:31:52):
of the day, if something goes sideways for some reason,
if someone gets upset for some reason, that handwritten order
that you've got with no judges signia means absolutely zero.
You can't call the cops and say, oh, she broke
our visitation agreement because they're going to ask, well, is
it in order the court? And you're gonna say no,
and they're gonna say, well, do you have an emergency
custody order? Well, no, do you have an order to enforce?

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:32:14):
I mean, at the end of the day, that order
means zero. It may mean something between the two of you,
but from a legal standpoint, it means zero. So that's
why you always want to get in order with the
judge's signature on it. That way, something does go pair shaped,
then you have recourse. You have a way to find
We can file emotion to enforce visitation. We can file
a contempt citation. We can send a rid of assistance

(01:32:34):
out to have the cops go out and pick up
your child and bring them to you. I mean, there's
all sorts of remedies we have when the court system
is involved. And again I applaud people for trying to
get along. That's great, but at the end of the day,
there might be something to go sideways, or somebody get
upset or something of that nature, and then you're gonna
regret regret not having that order.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Jeff Hensley from Hensley and Associates is on with us.
If you have a question eight three three four six,
oh kmod you cannot so text BM mass and then
what you want to say to eight two nine four
five or email like this one. I'm recently engaged, have
many assets for my age, a couple classic cars, houses,
stocks and investments. How should I go about a prenup
or should I even worry about one? Since I've had

(01:33:15):
all these things before being married. This is my first
marriage and want to make sure that what's mine is mine.
If anything were to happen.

Speaker 6 (01:33:26):
Then you want a prenup. Absolutely. Here's why, while you
had it before you get married, inevitably, inevitably, you were
going to make those items marital. All right, You're gonna
use marital funds, all right to fix those classic cars.
I know I've got some you're going to use. You're
going to have her move into your house that is

(01:33:47):
a marital residence, now, I mean, that's the thing, is
is all if you've got tons of stuff beforehand. And
this is why celebrities and people with large estates and
large incomes and things like that do these prenups. Is
because whatever you have beforehand, if you want to protect
that and quote make it mine. As you know, the
caller is saying, you're going to have to do a prenup.

(01:34:08):
That way you lock in exactly what is yours. There's
no question, there's no question as to what's marital, what's
not marital, what you walk away with which you don't
walk away with. So yeah, I would ask for a
prenup absolutely, I would require it if you've got if
you've got that kind of you know, background or income
or financial estate in some way you definitely want to

(01:34:28):
go it that way. Now, does everybody need a prenup?
Absolutely not. Okay, young kids with nothing they get married,
trust me, don't need them because you have nothing. It's
that simple. I've been there my wife and I've been
there when we got married we had nothing, So you know,
those kind of situations are okay. But if you have
any sort of large estate, I would always suggest to prenup.

(01:34:48):
There is something I was reading it in the news
just recently about Oh Geffen, who's head of Geffen Records
as well as the SK the G and skg uh
for DreamWorks. He is getting divorced. He has no prenup
with his person that he fell in love with, and

(01:35:10):
so now he's going to be losing half of his
billions of dollars because he didn't get that prenup. So
you know, there is a good reason to get prenups.
And yes, it's a little prickly bit of a conversation
to have with somebody about, oh, well, I think we
should get a prenup. But at the end of the day,
if you want to protect your assets, that's the way.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
To do it. And the Folks Insland Associates can help
with that, if you have a question for Jeff from
Innsland Associates, get it over to us eight three three
four six oh kmod where you can text like this
one BMMS and whatever your question is to eight two
nine four five that says my ex and I are divorced.
I have full custody. How do I set it up
so my baby goes to my sister if something happens
to me. I don't trust my ex. He's gone months

(01:35:52):
without contact.

Speaker 6 (01:35:54):
So the way we do that is is we do
a will or trust, and in that will or trust
we put in there that you nominate your sister to
be the legal guardian of your child should something happen
to you. So that's the way we handle it. That's
the way to do it. That is the way we've
talked about this before in the past about you know,
god parents and what that meant, and it's kind of

(01:36:15):
akin to that in the sense that again you're merely nominating.
You will merely nominate somebody to be that guardian should
something end up happening to you. That way, you know
your child is taken care of. Now, understand if the
parents in cases like this where parents are absent and
they're not seen and they disappear and all that, it
shouldn't be a problem. But if you've got active parents, obviously,

(01:36:37):
and you just want to block your ex out because
you don't like them, that's obviously not going to fly
in a guardianship. But in cases like this, where the
child doesn't know the parent, or the parents completely abandoned
or whatever it may be, this is what we do,
and that's how we protect your child.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
I'm curious, Jeff, for guidance on people like this when
they have like a sister, But how do they get
their trust to the appropriate people? They die? Obviously they're dead,
So if it's in there, say for their safe deposit
box or something, or you know, atop the fridge, how
does that information get transferred to the correct individuals?

Speaker 8 (01:37:10):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:37:10):
So, whenever an attorney drafts up a will or a trust,
all right, we are required to keep a copy of it.
So what that means is is you can always go
back to the attorney that drafted it and get a
copy of it. Number one. Number two, you should always
if you've got a trust or will, you need to
tell somebody where it's at, give them the key to
the safe or the code or you know, the access

(01:37:31):
to the well. If it's in a safety deposit box,
you can get it through probate. But you know, my
point of it is is that if you've got these documents,
you need to let somebody know who has them or
which attorney drafted them up. And of course we'll always
have copies so that that can be taken care of.
So you know, it's important that you tell somebody and
let people know where these documents are.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
So in the example of the text, the sister would
have to know and go, hey, she had a trust
and this is the attorney that had it.

Speaker 6 (01:37:59):
Right, and it calls your sister to be Yeah, and
if you want your sister to do it, just give
her a copy of the will or the trust, either one.
This one way to do it if you really trust
her that much.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
I've never thought about just giving a copy of the
trust and will over it.

Speaker 6 (01:38:13):
You don't have to, okay, And maybe some people that
rubs them the wrong way, And I understand that. I'm
really saying, if you really trust somebody to take care
of your child head.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
Then yeah, they should be okay, hold holding the trust.

Speaker 6 (01:38:25):
Right right exactly? I mean, all it does is tell
where things go. I mean, doesn't give super secrets to
the you know, uh, I don't know how to turn
lead into gold. I mean, it's it's protecting your child.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
The stack says, I have a cousin that is mentally
unstable and homeless. His parents do not want anything to do,
want to do anything. How can I help him?

Speaker 6 (01:38:51):
Read that one more time, please, I have.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
A cousin that is mentally unstable and homeless. His parents
do not want anything, want to do anything. How can
I help him?

Speaker 6 (01:39:03):
Well, I mean you can always go and get a
guardianship on him. That's one way, and of course then
try to do that and help him with his mental illness.
I assume this individual is over the age of eighteen.
If they're not, it doesn't matter either way. You can
get a guardianship over the individual if they have those
kind of issues that require that they need somebody to

(01:39:25):
help them. You know, you don't even really need that
to help them. I mean you can try and take
them to doctors and get them the help they need
and things like that. It's just that if you want
a guardianship in place, that gives you the legal right
to make those decisions and to take you know, be
able to take them to the doctor and say, look,

(01:39:45):
I'm the guardian. I want him to get checked out
or whatever it may be. You know, and maybe the
parents have a reason why they don't want to help,
who knows, But at the end of the day, a
guardianship is one way to consider going about helping that individual.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
Jeff from Hensley Associates is on the phone with us
eight three three four six, Oh, KMOD. You can email
show at kmod dot com or you can text BMMS
and then what you want to say to eight two
nine four five. This says, my ex keeps breaking the
custody agreement, shows up late, missus weekends, things like that,
What can I do about that?

Speaker 6 (01:40:19):
You know, you have to ask yourself what do you
want your remedy to be? In other words, First of all,
and I had this pop up several times last week
in talking with potential clients, is the court cannot worce
a parent to be a good parent. They can't force
them to be a parent. You know, if a parent
doesn't want to see their kid, there's nothing the court

(01:40:40):
can do. You can't file a contempt citation for a
failure to see the child. It doesn't work that way.
You know, the court can't force a parent to be
a parent. I mean, the court can admonish people and say, look,
you need to be on time. Quit being a jerk.
I mean, you can file motions to modify to change
things if they're major enough to change, but they're If
you're doing a motion to modify, there has to be

(01:41:02):
a substantial change in circumstance that would require the court
to make a change in the visitation schedule or the
holiday schedule, or the pickup schedule or whatever it may be.
There has to be a substantial change in circumstance if
you're doing emotion to modify. Now, if you've got joint
custody and the other person is pulling these things, we

(01:41:22):
file what's called emotion to terminate joint custody. Now, the
difference between the motion to modify and the motion to
terminate joint custody, besides the fact that joint custody is required,
is the fact that it changes the level of burden
of proof. For example, motion to modify is a very
high standard. It's you know, when you're doing substantial change

(01:41:43):
in circumstance, that's a fairly high standard. To prove you're
doing a motion to terminate joint custody. It brings that
requirement from way up here, way up high down to
best interest. It brings it back to what it was
when the original decree was entered. So you know, if
you have joint custody and you want to change something,
we have ways to do that. But again you've got

(01:42:04):
to we've got to talk about exactly what it is
you want to change. I mean, if they're being late,
I mean, technically you can file contempts I guess if
you really want to force that, But let's talk about
and flesh out some other things and find out exactly
what's going on. I mean, if they're not using all
their visitation and it's a recurring thing, then we definitely
have rights to modify. So whoever this is, please give

(01:42:26):
me a call. I'd love to talk to you about
it and see how we can get that taken care
of it. To stop the frustration you're having and going through.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Jeff from Hensland Associates is here to answer your questions.
If you need help, don't wait. You can send a
question to Jeff anytime by making a phone call nine
five six nine two. You mentioned KMOD. He's going to
give you a free consultation over the phone to talk
about your situation, to give you an answer because they're
all uniquely different. Don't think because your custody agreement is

(01:42:54):
don't think your custody agreement is going to be similar
to your friends. They're all different circumstances. You need a
specific plan for your family law situation and Jeff can
help nine five six ninety two for Hensley Associates. And
if you find yourself in need of an attorney outside
of family law, the folks at Hensley Associates can help
with that.

Speaker 6 (01:43:13):
Too, absolutely so through our office in Pejusco. If you
give them a call up there and talk to Sam Allison,
Sam can help you out. Now, the name of the
firm up there is Shoemake. It is a different name,
but it is our firm. We just left the name
when we took over. So with that being said, give
Sam a call. He can do. He does a great
job for you. He can help you with anything in

(01:43:33):
addition to family law. So if you've got a criminal matter,
if you've got a probate matter, a will and trust
that needs to be drafted, if you've got an oil
and gas, it's you if you've got to sell some land,
if you've got anything. In addition to family law, we
can help you with our firm through Sam up there.
Please give him a call. He'd love to help you out.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
Nine eight three nine eight five six nine two for
Hensley Associates, Jeff, have a great week, hey too, Take
care guys, We'll be back.

Speaker 5 (01:43:55):
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Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
BMW driver allegedly fledged cops in a hit and run crash,
but offers a shocking justification for striking and killing a woman.
What would be a reason someone would say it was
okay to strike and kill someone?

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
Never okay, but I'm sorry. I didn't see them. They
came out of nowhere. They were in my.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
What is it, peripheral, peripheral, Well in your peripheral you
can see yeah, oh yeah, blind spotlind spot, which is
aptly named.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
But we're looking for a reason, a justified reason to
run somebody over. Yes, they just sexually molested your child.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
Not okay to do that? No, still not justifiable because
now you're playing judge a jury.

Speaker 4 (01:44:51):
Uh God told me to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Yeah, it feels like I could hear somebody say that
not with this since said threatened me with a gun, okay,
like stay on your ground, Okay, okay, I don't hate
that one. Uh she flipped me the bird. Okay, Well
all these feel good. This person, this young lady Avona Gomez,

(01:45:20):
thirty two in Florida. She left the scene of a
crash resulting the death and resisting an officer without violence.
She was in jail on a tune in and fifty
one thousand dollars bond, and when she was asked about why,
she said, they're just a homeless person. Oh, oh god, damn,

(01:45:40):
nobody's going to miss him. Wow. Wow. Victim was identified
as forty one year old Katherine Kipness. Prosecutors said at
a bond hearing that the woman hit the victim so
hard the victim's head went into the vehicle through the windshield,
and some of the victim hair got caught on the

(01:46:02):
passenger seat belt. Congratulations, you're a police officer witnessed the
crash and then tried to stop the woman, but she
didn't stop. According to the affidavit, she allegedly kept driving
until she was slowed by traffic when the cops caught
up to her, she smelled of alcohol. Oh no, you

(01:46:23):
don't say, and she had bloodshot eyes and there was
vomit in the passenger seat.

Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
Oh, I could imagine. Yeah, you're gonna puke when you
go through somebody's windshield either.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
Way, or the person that came through the windshield made
or she was drunk and vomited.

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
Right, maybe that's when she hit the homeless person because
she was vomiting at the time and still driving.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
Wow. Oh gross, But edibles are bad. Huh right. The
woman declined to complete a sobriety test and requested to
speak to an attorney, which is the way to do it.
The judge reportally noted in the bond hearing that the
woman allegedly said, it was just a homeless person that
I hit, and it's an accident. The woman denied making

(01:47:17):
the statement when she was a sissober, Your honor, I
never said that. I did not say that whatsoever. That
is false lies. Then the woman who died her cousin
was there, apparently, and her cousin said, I just want

(01:47:38):
your honor to be aware of what a shining light
has been taken out of this world. The incredible irresponsibility
of this one person. The victim's father spoke with a
TV station, said, my daughter was vivacious, lovable. Everyone really
liked her. She was tough, but in a good way.
I just think back, I spoke to her last night

(01:47:58):
at six o'clock when she told me I love you Dad.
That was the last thing she said to me. Well,
that's a good thing. Uh So this girl wasn't actually homeless.
The driver just made that up. I mean, it doesn't
state whether she was homeless or not. It shouldn't matter. No,

(01:48:18):
it shouldn't matter her being homeless, completely irrelevant, right, I.

Speaker 4 (01:48:22):
Think you know when it comes to homeless pep, And
I don't know because I'm not homeless, and I don't
know any homeless people, to be honest with you, but
like they wouldn't be in contact with family.

Speaker 1 (01:48:31):
Or related that's not true thing like that. That's a misconception. Maybe.

Speaker 4 (01:48:33):
So again, I don't know because I'm not homeless and
I don't know any homeless people. But you know, when
you think of, you know, stereotypical homeless person, you know,
living under a bridge, no way to communicate with anybody
in the phones, nothing like you see that's kind of
what That's what I meant by that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Yeah. Again, I think that is a myth that homeless
people are alone. Oh no, they have communities. No, I
mean like they don't have loved ones, right right, right, Oh,
I get that, and I know they do. I know
they do, and that they're not in touch with them. Right,
That's kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:49:04):
Where I'm at, you know, at least from what I
you know, let me even on TV and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
Right, let me rephrase the story a little bit and
let's see if it gives it a little bit different
context from the dad. And I'm making this up just
to give a different point of view. Uh, she's tough
on the way, do you think back? I spoke my daughter.
I spoke to her on the phone. We hadn't spoken
in months, but she checked in with me and she said,

(01:49:32):
I love you, dad. So it's not That's what I'm saying.
It's not like they're just they have nobody that loves them.
Some people it just is easier for them to be
without a home, right, or they can't keep it together
or whatever. Yeah, But to be like they're just it's
just why And then I didn't say that, yeah, because

(01:49:53):
you were upon them, Mike's hard lemonade, man twisted teas whatever. Right,
there's no laws when drinking wik claws. I wish this
is too much to ask, I think, but I wish
that there was documentation of when there's accidents or things
like this, it was designated what they were taking, because

(01:50:14):
I know of some instances locally were some pretty heinous
things happened and the person that was drunk, like they
found a beverage like this in the car. Right now,
you can't just unless it's in their hand or they
did a toxology on him. There's no way to know
if that's the exact thing that was in them, right,
but I think it's safe to assume if there's open

(01:50:35):
containers and unopen containers in the car, the individual was
drinking that while they were driving. Yeah, sure at some
point and it caused like they went kind of crazy,
like for local crazy. I don't know, but it'd be
interesting to see the data, Like oh on on Chardonnais
and IPA's you don't it's very mild accident. Not that

(01:51:01):
one's better than the other, but right, not trying to
defend the accidents or driving while on Tokso.

Speaker 4 (01:51:05):
But you're right, it would be nice to know whether
they are they on pills? Were they on alcohol?

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
Were they high on the pots? Well, people think alcohol
is the same across the board, right, and they are not. No, No,
that's I guess. Was it liquor? Was a beer? Was
it exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
A vodkam might affect someone way different than a beer
or a seltzer.

Speaker 1 (01:51:28):
I have a good friend and he's a very good drunk,
but on tequila, I don't want anything to do with it, right, right.
I've known women like that. Yes, a lot of people
when they get on the tequila, you're like, WHOA. I
never understood that. That's what a lot of people say,
And I've never had that problem. I think when you're
on the outside, it's hard to have the self awareness, like, oh,

(01:51:53):
why is it so crazy here?

Speaker 5 (01:51:54):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
Why did I get dragged through the carpet and my
head banged against the wall. That was a moonshine night.
That was a good time. Read this other one here.
Man has been arrested for the murder of a woman
in Arizona at Arizona bus stop last month, and police
say he used a metal pin to stab her in

(01:52:15):
the neck Huh. James Weekly confessed to the murder, according
to the police, and though the officer suggested his version
of events were that he acted in self defense. He
has been charged with second degree murder. On April twenty eighth,

(01:52:35):
just after nine pm, officers responded to reports of a
stabbing near the bus stop. It was there that they
found the injured woman, Judy Lopez, sixty two. She was
brought to a hospital where she died from her injuries. Quote.
It's a horrible thing that happened to my sister. No
family should have to go through that, but a lot
of families do. Justice will be served for my sister,

(01:52:56):
according to a family member. Mendez described the difficulties in
the officer and finding a lead in the case due
to there being no video surveillance of the stabbing, but
footage from a Metro bust bus helped carry the investigation forward.
We discovered that Judy had boarded one of the metro
buses in the valley and got off at that intersection.
It was seen on bus video that Judy had a

(01:53:18):
cell phone with her. She had a cell phone with
her when she was getting off the bus and after
she was transported to the hospital and the scene was
completely gone through. The cell phone was nowhere to be found.
So it was after extensive detective work and investigate and
turning on find my iPhone that we were able to
obtain cell phone data records and those are the ones
we used to locate where a cell phone went. Detectives

(01:53:41):
learned the phone had been brought westward into a nearby
neighborhood and by checking home surveillance cameras, they learned a
man later allegedly this man Weekly, had moved through the
streets shortly after the stabbing. Police got a search warrant
executed it. James was apprehended and a cell phone matching
Judy's cell phone located inside his home. Not to mention

(01:54:03):
the exact same clothing that he was seen wearing in
the bus, the same bus that Judy was on, and
insecurity camera videos were also discovered that he was there. Wow.
According to the police, he confessed to quite a few things,
including that quote he did it. He said that he
stabbed her and used a metal pinned to poker in

(01:54:24):
the neck. It's unfortunate, but it is difficult to understand
what the motive was that Weekly maintained that the woman
was suffering some sort of medical episode and he tried
to see if she was okay, and she swatted his
hand away, cutting it, and that's when the assault happened.
He expressed remorse for what he did, telling authorities he

(01:54:45):
wanted her family to know this was caused by a misunderstanding.
He reportedly outed that he was not trying to kill her.
He wished he would have handled the situation different. Yo,
Hey do you need help? Wap? No way, bitch, come
right right, It says here he wanted her to feel
pain and bleed because he was bleeding. People walk through

(01:55:10):
life that way, right, right. They don't think this will
be the outcome, right, but there are people like you
hurt me. I get to hurt you now. Yeah, and
he went full on casino with her or just blind rage,
stabbed her in the neck. Well you know you've seen
the movie Casino Joe Pesh. Yeah, with a pen. Yeah,
that's what's what I'm meaning. Yeah, Well he just got disrespected, right,

(01:55:31):
Oh you cut me? Yeah, bitch? Yeah? Or again that's
just his version, right, we can't get her version. No,
you think they're security on all these buses and stuff.
Like cameras to document everything, and it bus stops and
there is not all right. We got to take a break.
We'll be back.

Speaker 5 (01:55:50):
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