BMMS 6-9-25

Welcome Back From The Weekend!!! We Talk About The Best & Worst Parts, The Dark Web, Speeding Is Bad, We Spoke  To An Awesome Listener Who Is A Hall Of Famer, Jeff Hensley Stops By, & Tipping Has Gotten Out Of Control!!!!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
You are about to witness amazing Emo has comes in
living Man's property of all times. Yes, my bow suck
on you bow down to your master. Then you did it.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Then you did it.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
There you did it.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Allowed to play, Allowed to play, Come out to play,
Come to play.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
For Crystal wos.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
The sun is rising God, Oh wake up, wake.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Up now, don't worry.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
We're all here to show you how.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Jan Witz hors Raw Station K and bo g home
The listens is a family fee.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
Don't turn downtown, just wait.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
And say are you ready?

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Are you ready to jove in time to start to
show crapstick a clbout Brisco Whisping Man, Marny Show, Welcome
to the Working Week. It's on such a bore kick back,

(01:50):
makes up best of it.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
And make it hardcore.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Hang your whisby and then mess.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Pick up your phone there line you're on the air.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Time, Good morning, It's the Big Man Morning Show. Toll
free eight three three four six oh k m O D.
Can also text BMMS and then what you want to
say to eight two nine four five Listen online the

(02:37):
website that rocks kmod dot com. Past shows are available
on iTunes search under b m MS listen with your
cell phone. Get the iHeartRadio app available from the app
store of your cell phone provider. More on that at
iHeartRadio dot com. And we're on Facebook, Facebook dot com,
slash b m MS six y nine. That's where you
can hang out with us each and every day. Good morning, Lindsay,

(03:01):
Good morning, Corn, Good morning, Oil, Good morning. We've got
best and worst of the weekend. We'll get to We've
got tickets to Rock the River, Rock and roll. You
get a pair of tickets to Rock the River this
weekend at Sparrow Heart Hawk Campgrounds in Tallaquah. A bunch

(03:22):
of bands you know will be playing, Headpee, Tantric, Trapped,
and anybody who wins this week to Tickets to Rock
the River gets a free digital download of Metallica's Load
Remastered and is qualified to win the Metallica Load Remaster's
box set, double vinyl EP, cassette and three CD set.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
That's a lot of outdated technology, but collector's item none aless,
just like a you carried it on, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey,
you never know or Metallica avon perfume models listen.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Just because something's old doesn't mean it's a collector's item. Oh,
they'll be so hard on yourself. Man, I'm not a
collector's item.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Oh somebody would like to collect you, I'm sure, Uh no,
not in that way.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
How many corbans do you have? Nine of them in
my basements. I'll circle back to this thought. We've got
our listeners are awesome. Jeff Heinsley's gonna join us. If
you are going through a divorce or custody or guardianship
or name change or anything like that, Jeff will be
in the studio to answer your question about those type

(04:37):
of situations. So get your question to us. Email show
at kmody dot com, text bmms and whatever that question
is to eight two nine four five, or you can
call when he's in the studio. And we're qualifying people
for fifty for fifty celebrating fifty years of millte somebody's
gonna get fifty pairs of concert tickets. You just got
to listen every hour with us to get qualified. And

(04:57):
Jonathan Jubiefskytok heard the cue, so Jonathan's now in the
running as well. Another chance coming up in about fifty minutes.
How many you can collect of somebody? I saw a
thing this morning online This isn't what I was planning
on talking about, So I gotta collect my thoughts. Here.
There's a guy online who has summoned an AI bought

(05:22):
from the dark web. Wow, that sounds dangerous. And he's
been documenting the conversation if this is real, documenting the
conversations and posting them to his account, and the AI
has convinced him to build him a body.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
Oh see where it starts. Okay, we'll settle that. I'm
not one hundred percent convinced this is real.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
And so he took like a doll head and like
a little doll and put the computer chip. Whatever happen, whoever? Sure, yeah,
go ahead, dork. And then it convinced him to build
another one.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
And so now he's got like a mannequin who moves
like a like a like a Chucky cheese. Rockefeller Explosion,
right right? Was animatronic dog?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (06:18):
Yeah, fat's in the Rockefeller explosion. If I remember, that's
the name of it.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
And let's people ask it question, it's the weirdest thing. Nope,
not no, not giving it that label. It's a very
bizarre thing on social media. It ain't the weirdest thing.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
It's probably not the most bizarre, but definitely rags up
there for sure.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
And when people he lets people ask it questions. So,
for example, this is the one I'm remembering, Hey Beast,
is what it's called? What is your waffle house order? Okay,
I gotta be honest. If I'm getting to ask the
dark web AI a question, I'm not asking it what
it's waffle house order?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Is no.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
And then the response, uh, the it was like, don't
bother me with, you know, silly questions or something to
that effect. And I'm like, that's not.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
So.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Because this chatbot's from.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
The dark Web, it is expecting to have darker questions asked.
I'm just if I'm going to ask the dark web
version of a chat that doesn't have filters.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
It ain't that right. Let me give it some more,
give you some more context. Huh. Recently, my fyp has
been populated by these fantastic AI generated videos. So what
they do is they go, hey, AI, create a video

(07:54):
as if Judah was video blogging as he was doing
his stuff, or what mo you know? Moses, Hey, it's
Moses your Hey, I've got the boat built, and and
they're everything. It's not just biblical like there's one with
Osama bin Laden like right before I'm telling you that

(08:17):
John Wilkes Booth. Yeah, I'm telling you they are chef's kiss.
They got some problems. Yeah, but that would be kind
of the thing I'm gonna ask AI to do. Even
AI is willing to be like, ah, yeah, let's play
up to this dark AI should be like, listen, I'm
getting a three way right at waffle house and then

(08:37):
I'm gonna give it to your mother, Like right, it
should be horrendous. It's the dark Web, yes not, don't
bother me with your silly questions.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
See what I'm saying. So that was like a clue
to me. I'm like, this doesn't make much sense. I've
never messed around with the Dark Web. I've heard things
about it, and I'm right there with you. If you're
going to be doing an AI chat bought from there.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
You should see how dark? How dark is this? AI
will in it it go?

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah? You know, are we slaughtering babies on this one? Well?
I mean, if you're posting it to your regular web,
I get tortal. You can't get too dark, right, but
I would think of the response it should be able
to respond some things, or you could bleep it out ye,
something to that effect. Not just don't bother me, you
mere mortal, right, type of thing that feels a little ridiculous. Yeah, yeah,

(09:35):
you're the dark Web man. You should know exactly what
to order at waffle house. Right, you're the dark Web.
You're not too good for waffle house.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Well, my ash brow smothered of gravy like your mama, exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, you should be. It should be embarrassingly gross, and
also you might want it if you're drunk. Right, Just
and every time and we talk about the Dark Web,
I'm always I always feel like either it's a giant
secret on how to get on it, or there's some

(10:09):
like user agreement you made to get on it and
not share, Like you don't talk about it, right, because
we get people share some pretty heinous things with us
videos from quote the dark Web, And I'm not saying
it doesn't exist. I'm just saying nobody ever shares on
how to get on it.

Speaker 6 (10:25):
Right, I've looked it up, and you gotta have an
Onion or special router or whatever, Torrent data da. It's
a lot of nerd stuff that I don't want to
get into, and to be quite honest with you, I
don't know if I want to or not, like, because
there's part of me it's like, yeah, let's go ahead,
let's download these files from a web service. I have

(10:45):
no idea where it came from. Next thing, you know,
my computer's got AIDS. Or even if I do get
in and everything's fine and dandy, I don't know if
I want anybody.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I don't know who's on the other side.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
I just don't know enough about it to feel safe
going into the dark side.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Well, I'll do you one better. You probably don't have
a personal computer. You have work computers, and you don't
want to get yoke, right because you are on the
dark web with your computer, right research show research. Yeah,
I don't think they're gonna buy that.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Look at all the pornography you want. Right, But the
moment you get on the dark web, ay nay, you're fired.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
And I guess I'm kind of glad. It's kind of
hard to get on the dark web, challenging might get hooked.
You think too much for you No, okay, no, I
just I believe in obstacles to get things that are
kind of dangerous. That's fair. Yeah, it shouldn't be easy.
People give up most of the time.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
They're like, oh, I gotta I gotta eat healthy to
lose weight.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I'm not giving up X Y Z or or something
to that effect. I want to go to mikoons, but
I gotta work. People usually give up on hard obstacles.
You find out what people really want and you go, ah,
I get on the dark web and you're like, what,
I gotta have an onion kernel. Ah, I'm fine, Let's

(12:12):
watch the Office again. Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
What's that say about the people who actually go through
all those obstacles to get on the internet, the dark web?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I guess they should say whatever they want to look at, right,
they really want to look at guys or a whole
different breed of people. Well, I'll say this there, Well
I'll say this people, let's let's not use the dark web.
People I know that are mechanically inclined will build things
for no purpose, right, so they get really deep into it.

(12:42):
If you're a nerd it type, you may do it
just be like because I can't because I know how to. Right,
you may not just because you're on the dark Web.
I don't know if I'm ready to automatically lump you
in with you want to see children have sex, or
you want to buy drugs from another where you need
a hit man or whatever. Yeah, I'll agree with you

(13:04):
to an extent because there is a natural curiosity.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
That everybody has. It's like, I've heard so much about
this this dark web.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I want to check it out.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
And those people, I think, the honest people like you
and I who are just curious and want to check
it out, will dip their big toe into the dark
web pond.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Maybe maybe splash.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
Around a little bit, you know, Okay, and then we're like, oh, no,
I'm not swimming.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I don't want to swim today. I'm good. Hey, listen,
we all started on whippets, you know, right right, I
just want to see what this whole whippet party's about.
Next thing, you know, you're like, you're talking to me again, right,
So hello to my little friend. I just quickly googled
what great things can you buy on the Dark Web?

(13:53):
Oh god, what did it say?

Speaker 6 (13:55):
Well, because you know, I was like, do people only?
Is the dark web only for the fair things?

Speaker 1 (14:00):
That's what we assume because that's what they tell But
I don't know that. So I'm asking. So the first
response firearms. Okay, that's not it's not okay to buy
weapons illegally, right, right, right, right. I don't feel like
it's the biggest defense in the world.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
However, you can't go down to Dick's House of sport
and get a bazuka, but I'm pretty sure you probably
could off the dark web.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
I don't know. Maybe you're right. I don't know. Another one.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
Chat rooms, Mmm, okay, I don't I don't know what
the big deal is there unless you want to go
to meet Bobby and Sally chat rooms, right, or it's like,
you know, we really love our kids chat rooms, you know, right,
like yeah, drugs, yeah, illegal items.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I feel like that's kind of it's clean X, like
we're kind of lumping it. It's cola, like we're lumping it
into everything. Pornography, I'm gonna I think that needs a
different word next to it, another adjective, like extreme extreme pornography. Yeah,
you know, it's bad pornography. If even pornography sites are
like whoa a right, settle down their text weird securing

(15:16):
cryptocurrency wallets, I don't know anything about that. I feel
like that's a mirage but okay, uh, accessing free academic
research hold on college. So like I need to look
up the latest helix structure. I gotta go into the

(15:37):
dark web to do that. Feels wild.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
Credit card numbers, yeah, that that drugs were the first
things I thought of dark web wikis, like.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
The scary truth of you know whatever. Well, just because
it's on the dark web, I'm not buying it's the truth. Right,
just because it's on the Internet doesn't mean it's the truth.
And what I don't know what that means. I think
I need that explain to me. What's a dark web wiki?
Because the wikis are already user anybody can alter a Wikipedia.

(16:09):
They're not blaw they're not fact based. So I don't
know what dark web wikis would contain. Is it like
a dark web wiki? And like how to buy a bazooka? Right?
I need more on that. Passports, Okay, new sites Okay,
I feel like we can already do that. Netflix accounts,

(16:32):
usering ad free search engines. I'm afraid to click here
to see what people say, Yeah, buying steroids from somebody
on the dark web, Okay, what they're saying, right, Uh? Yeah,
the idea of getting on the dark webs wild. So

(16:55):
this person's texting in saying, this guy started buying steroids
from someone on the dark web with crypto and now
he's crazy, he lost his mind. His just asked me
to help testify against him for a protective order and
help gain custody of their daughter, baby Mama. Is what
that means? Not bowel movement? Best man? Is what I

(17:17):
thought it said, BMW BMS talking to you. You need help.
I don't think that will steroids? You got what's a
whole new meaning to talking us? Okay, here's the scenario.
We go to Gimpies house. This isn't gonna work with
the three of us, but that's the only way I'm

(17:38):
gonna build it. So we go to Gimpy's house and
he's like, hey, I got some new ganja. You're like, sure, man, okay,
got it off the dark web. When you order some
off the dark web, does it come in a special
dark web package like you like Amazon? Right? Right? Right?

Speaker 6 (18:01):
I don't know, solid black, you know, you get like
a black box or maybe a solid black bag so
nobody can see what's in it doesn't have anything on there,
maybe just like an image of a spider web, you know,
for the dark.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
Web, But is it anything different from getting it from
someone who we don't really know that says, hey, I
threw this, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Cut it off the dark web.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
Yeah, I don't know Spider right, right, But I also
know Spider is trying to run a business here, right,
and he's not trying to mess it up.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
His clients are important to him. I'm being real, Like
people that sell drugs, their clients are important.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
To them, right, They want to keep them coming back. Yeah,
they're trying to make money. They have to pay somebody.
Most drug dealers, I don't think want to kill their clients, no,
as they owe them. Mind, they don't want to give
candy to kids, right, right, It's not a real thing.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
So, but the dark web feels like I don't know
who that person is. It could be a government entity
looking to sabotage. So I yeah, I think the dark
web's worse for sure. It is than buying it from whoever. Right, Well,
at least you know when you're buying it from. Even
if you don't go to this dispensary, you just got
the hook up.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
You know that person. Even if you just met that person,
you know they're still human. You don't know who's in
whatever stand on the other side of the country, who's
just sewing you, God knows what.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
You know.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
The next thing you know, you're like, Ooh, I got
some afghany cush. Wow, that sounds good. Let's fire it up. Yeah, buddy,
you know it's laced with femol, right or or carpet yarn.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
You don't know what it is right, right. But I
feel like if if my buddy was like, oh, yeah,
I've got this stuff on the dark Web, I'd be
like done. I don't even need to know what else
you get. I can't. I don't need that smoke. I
don't need the Feds knocking on my door right like

(20:03):
this text.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
I'm sure it comes with the police escort, maybe talking
about your package coming from the dark web.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Dude. I don't know, man, I don't know. I've been
having this thought lately that the postal Service does some
of the most heinous work in our country for all
groups of organizations. Okay, like making deliveries for the dark web,

(20:28):
like moving fecal matter. Hey man, the doctor told me
to do that. And I'm not knocking on the people
that work in the Postal Service like you're just trying
to get a paycheck. I get it. Well, that's the
whole service. They don't know their job.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
Their job is to take a package from you and
give it to somebody else that you say needs it.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Right, Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
They don't question what's on the inside where they used
to not anthraction guns or whatever.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
But I don't know if they still do that, do
the X ray? How does that work out? I don't know.
I don't know know. But their job is to take
a package and move it to aver there. Don't ask questions,
just to.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
Yes, right, I'm trying to get this done so I
can get home, right, right, Because this is a job.
I don't know very many people who grew up going
I'm gonna be the best mailman ever. I'm sure there
are some, Yeah, but ultimately people are like it's a job.
They just want to get the check and they want.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
To go home. But it's a government job, and it's
makes it a decent job you can have forever. That's
what they say. That's what people would not government jobs
like to say. Yeah right, I'm just saying I only
hear that from people that don't have government jobs.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
Right, right, right, that's what it was always told growing up.
You know, you should be a mailman, be a postal worker.
That's a government job. You can have that job forever.
It's a great job, great pay, lots of exercise.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
I'm good. This person says, I bought and sold many
things on the dark Web. You get your items in
discreete envelopes. They will look just like any other package
being sent. You just try to make them blend in
with the rest of the mail out there. Okay, Well,
when I ordered my portable missile launcher with precision laser

(22:06):
laser guidance off the dark Web, it showed up in
an unmarked box driven by two guys with Eastern Europe accents.
Were you at the Twin Pines mall? Right, that's a
back to the future reference for those that don't. Were
they libbyan a Right? Were you meeting your weird older friend? Right?

(22:30):
Single older friend. You're in high school with a friend
that is like a mad scientist that no one trusts
in the parking lot of the mall.

Speaker 8 (22:37):
Mom, I'm going to meet a sixty oh at least
fifty five year old man in the parking lot of
the mall at midnight.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
Whose only friend is a dog deals with terrists. Right,
donounce sound very safe at all. Seriously, what would Marty's parents?

Speaker 1 (22:57):
No, listen, Marty's we already know marty parents weren't good parents.
A right. One of their kids was in her brother
was in jail.

Speaker 6 (23:04):
Right, right, just was not raised up from a good
home from the beginning. They were not loving right right
even uh, wasn't his dad's named George? Yes, George was
a was a pussy, ye know, and one life he
was yeah yeah, then he finally yeah, so you know,
sucked it up and got strong.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
But for the most part he was a weekly dude.
If my boss showed up at my house and tried
to order me around, I'd be like, yeah, it's time
to go.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
Conversation over dude, Like just showed up and got my fridge,
I'd be like, bitch, I don't know what you think
you're doing.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
The guest beers are out there. There ain't no guest
beers for you. And I've liked my bosses, they are fine.
But if you show up at my house unannounced, right
and weird and talk to my kids in a dispat
oh my, don't get all worked up now, it's only

(24:07):
six thirty's all right. We've been all over the road,
all right, We've been all It's like the dark web, right,
all right, we got to takes to rock the river.
We're gonna give away. We'll take a break and we'll
be back.

Speaker 9 (24:16):
You're listening to The Big Man Morning Show. This is
Tulsa's Morning Show, ninety seven kmton.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
It's time for newsquakies, world news, local news, and news
that just makes you say, what the Here's Corbin Gimbi
and Lindsay with what's going on news quagies from The
Big Man Morning Show.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
In ninety seventy five kmod.

Speaker 7 (24:39):
Driver clock to going one hundred and thirty two miles
per hour in a Mercedes Benz. This happened in Connecticut
where state police a trooper observed Mercedes Benz E three
hundred traveling at excessive speeds on I ninety one South
near Cromwell and tried to initiate a traffic stop with

(25:01):
lights and sirens, but the driver accelerated away, making unsafe
lane changes and weaving in and out of traffic. Because
of the hazard being created, the trooper decided to stop
the pursuit and instead contacted the registered owner of the vehicle,
who said that a family member actually was driving the

(25:22):
car at the time. So the trooper obtained a phone
number for the young man, who admitted he had been
driving and said he didn't stop because he was late
for a job interview. He then agreed to meet troopers
at the Troop H office in Hartford, Connecticut, where he

(25:46):
was arrested. Turns out he was nineteen year old and
he was apparently running late for a job interview. He's
now facing nine charges of reckless driving, disobeying signal of
an office sir, failure to maintain lane, passing on the right,
improper turn, passing at an unsafe distance, engaging police in

(26:08):
a pursuit, interfering with an officer, and reckless and endangerment
in the first degree. He was released on a twenty
five hundred dollars bond, and his schedule to appear in
a Middletown Superior court on June seventeenth.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Might be the best argument on why they shouldn't have
high speed chases. Well, yeah, because it's putting everybody in danger.
And they got they got him. Yeah, they got to
pursue to get a license plate, you know, assuming it
might be the right one. They now have that thing
where you can police can get close and it shoots
like a thump onto the car and then they just

(26:46):
track it. Yeah, brilliant.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
Yes, makes way more sense than engaging in high speed
chases where everybody's adrenaline's high and like just put so many.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Other people at risk for what out of expired tags?

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Right, right, Well they might hurt some people, that's true.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, but there'd be a lot more people heard.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
If you know police officers, the person they're chasing smashes
into motorcyclists, you know, or just whatever. Somebody just randomly driving.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Well, if you're going one hundred and thirty two miles
per hour and the light turns green down here, or
traffic's already green and we're going right, I'm not hearing
the sirens and I ain't seeing the car right, No,
I'm just getting t boned. Yeah, and that's that. Yeah,
it sucks.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Armed door dasher busted over tip demand. This comes out
of Washington State. We're a fifty nine year old guy
named Robert Dena Hunt. He delivered some hundred dollars worth
of food to this nineteen year old gallon named Keana
I guess she didn't tip them, or didn't tip them
well enough, because he showed up the next day in
the morning at their house.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Wow, I just carried it with him demanding a tip. Right.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
Of course, he showed up to their house the next
day in the morning, all liquored up, demanding a tip.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Right.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
So the story goes that he shows up and Keana
she ended up telling the police.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Kean is the nineteen year old girl who ordered all
the food whatever.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
She says that he showed up loud and mouthy. So
that causes Keana's dad to step in, right.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
And he's like, hey, you need to get out of here.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
Go now, get you some yonner, okay, and uh So
they get back and forth. They're they're cross with each other.
They're a little altercation there, and that is when oh Bob,
the delivery driver unholsters his ruger pistol.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Right, all right.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Well, the dad's like, well, we ain't gonna do any
of this, so he takes the gun from the guy
and then pushes him down into the driveway. Well, the
guy gets up, dusts himself off, and then drives away
and then Bob calls the police. Bob is the delivery
driver Bob calls the police and says that he was cheated.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Out of a tip.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
He went on to tell them that, you know, I
only listen, I only lifted my shirt up to show.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Them that I was armed.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
Anyway, So when the cops got there, they smelled the
booze on Bob's breath and they're like, yeah, dude, you can't.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Be doing this.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
So they ended up taking him in. He got in
for assault, harassment, and d y because he was twice
over the legal limit.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Dude took a gun from the man and pushed him down.
You're like, that just tells me he was drunk. When
you said that, I was like, oh that got was drunk. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
Yeah, And they got the links on our Facebook page
and they took security footage from the guy's house, like
ring security or whatever, right, and it shows Bob on
the ground, like buy his car on his ass. You
can tell it just pushed him over or whatever. It's
a still it's a still photo. But I was like,
that's hilarious, is because typical why here looks like, you know,

(30:03):
he's got his white new Balance on and his white cruisaws.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Pulled up to his knees. I'm sure dashers get screwed
over a lot. I'm sure it happens. I think that's
just the you know, dog walker picking up dog poop
part of the job. All right, it's not cool, it's
not okay, but that I feel like that comes with
the territory. You should know that going in. Absolutely, By

(30:29):
the way, everybody should have door dashering bells. Yeah, everyone.
It should be like a standard thing on homes now,
I don't disagree.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Kind of like every car nowadays should probably come with
the dash caam.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Of swords one hundred just keeps you out of trouble,
all right. So this story I almost didn't want to
read because I don't love the narrative it pushes. But
nonprofit accused of unnecessary organ donation procedures A Kentucky is
accused of conducting organ donation procedures despite signs of life

(31:07):
in donors. Federal investigators found that some procedures should have
been stopped sooner in several cases. At Network for Hope,
employees are also accused of improperly taking overcases from doctors
and pressuring families to sign off on organ donations for
their loved ones. The group is now required to conduct
periodic assessments Oh good on possible donors, while increasing its

(31:31):
staff training. State Attorney General Russell I'm gonna run for
mayor Suon Coleman now leads the investigation, but no charges
have been filed. They should lose their ability to do that. Yeah,
there should be a one strike in your done rule.
We trust you to get this right. And then you
even a whiff that you are operating in a scenario.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
Where people might have lived right, even if they're like,
it should be like, nope, they're really gone, not yet.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Not yet. Yeah, that's wild, dude. Wild. Even to be
an employee and know you did that also feels wild.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
And nobody ever once said, hey, this doesn't seem right, right,
But I guess we're getting paid whatever. I'm just doing
my job, bust.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I mean, I think there are plenty of people that
take jobs knowing they have they get involved in. They're
like getting paid and they're like, just gratefully have a job,
and then they're like, hey, hey, by the way, you
need to get more donors signed up this month. And
then you got kids and your kids got a kid,
and you're like, oh the pressure when you should just

(32:44):
be like I'm good. They can come take my right,
my super U. All these stories are on our Facebook
page at Facebook dot com, slash bmms six.

Speaker 9 (32:52):
Nins, Tulsa's Morning Show is coming right back, The Big Man.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
Morning Show, Tulsa's Rock Station ninety.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Good morning Lindsay, Good Morning Corbyn.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
If you want to look like hero to you and
your coworkers, enter online to win a free lunch from Taziki's.
A delicious Mediterranean lunch for you and nine co workers
and me and Promo Brady will personally deliver it to
you and our Chevy Blazer ev at the end of
this month. Sign up online at kmod at dot com

(33:26):
to win.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
Good Morning Gimpie, Well, Good morning Corbyn. We are eighty
one days away from Rock Klahoma Labor Day weekend prior
to us a five Fring Your Death Lunch, Shine Down
and Breaking Benjamin and Alice Couber, Mario Man.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
So there's a whole lot of them.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
You can get your link for tickets and the full
line up at the website that Rock Slahoma Kamodi dot go.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Best and Worst of the weekend, what's the best thing
that happened this weekend? And the worst thing that happened
this weekend BMMS and whatever that is to eight two,
nine four five, lindsay what was the best and what
was the worst?

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (33:57):
The best was yesterday Kevin and I got some husband
and wife alone time and had a day date a
double date actually on the lake with some friends of ours,
and took the boat out no kids. It was just
really nice. The lake wasn't very busy, it was pretty perfect,

(34:22):
so we got to spend some alone time together, but
some adult time as well. It was really nice. And
the worst of my weekend was Friday night. We went
to a late dinner together at one of our favorite
sushi places, and when we got home, I fell asleep

(34:42):
and woke up sick as a dog. And I think
I had food poisoning. I don't know for sure, but
that's what I'm assuming it was. And just did not
and I actually I did try a different role, something
that I hadn't had before, and I think I got

(35:03):
sick from it, and he did not eat it, So
that's what we're assuming it was.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I'm fascinated by when people say food poison I'm not
saying you didn't have no idea, but I'm fascinated by
it because you could have had an allergic reaction to food, right,
it could could it could not. But we say food
poison outmacud be like where'd you go? Right? Not you,
I'm just saying in general, and people like where'd you go?
And then that place will get condemned.

Speaker 7 (35:30):
Right, And it is the place that we go on
a regular and but I just I woke up with
a nasty headache and stomach issues and you know.

Speaker 10 (35:43):
Bathroom visits like it was.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
I just felt, sure, did you vomit?

Speaker 10 (35:48):
I did?

Speaker 7 (35:49):
I did, But by mid morning the next day I
was feeling fine.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
You sure you were just hung over?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
No?

Speaker 7 (35:58):
I I didn't drink what?

Speaker 10 (36:01):
Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
You didn't.

Speaker 7 (36:02):
I know we had ice water, m so yeah's attractive. No, definitely, No,
it was just I don't know.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
We were Friday night, right, right, when you drink, I've
seen you drink on a Tuesday. Well, sure, right, all
your your food's poisoning symptoms sound like a hangover.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
That's also sound like food poison I've never had food
poisoning either, And that's I think why I'm so fascinated
by the topic of it. Like when people claim that
that happened to them, like if you get sick and
you ate, specifically, if you eat at a restaurant. Rarely
do people say they get food poisoning after they've been
at home. They just I'm having tummy troubles.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
No, you can get food poisoning at home too, sure,
but that doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
But when you eat at a restaurant, you just assume
you got served bad food, which is possible. Yeah, it
does happen.

Speaker 7 (36:58):
And maybe it was an allergic reaction. I again, it
was something I tried that I'd never had before.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
What you eat? I it had what was the food
item in it that stood out to you as something
you never had before?

Speaker 10 (37:11):
It was cooked eel, and.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
You've never had eel before eating sushi eel sauce.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
I've done the eel sauce, but never the eel.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Hm hmm yeah, uh huh.

Speaker 7 (37:25):
Yeah, unless unless it was something else in it.

Speaker 10 (37:28):
I don't know it was.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
I enjoyed it. I don't know.

Speaker 10 (37:33):
I did say.

Speaker 7 (37:34):
I did say, though, this isn't one that I'm gonna
want again. I'm not a while I was, but while
I was eating it, because I don't like I don't
really like hot rolls.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Like spicy or yeah, I don't think I don't. Yeah,
there's a couple of sushi rolls at some really great
sushi places and you get it and it comes hot,
and I'm like, oh, I was no, but I don't
like hot. But I do love like tempora, which is cooked. Right,
it's kind of like a double sword. Yeah, you de
pray anything, it's gonna be better. But I'm saying, is

(38:10):
that like that's cooked and you have that like a
tempora role, you're like, this is delicious. Or there's a
sushi role where you get like panseered tuna or it's
got a crab cake in it, and you're like, this
is yummy, yummy, Yeah, yumpy. What what was the best
and what was the worst of your weekend?

Speaker 6 (38:26):
H The best and the worst happened on the same day,
all right. So my lady stayed with me last week,
which is amazing. We haven't had much time together at
all whatsoever. So she stays with me last week and
then on Saturday for the first time, and god knows,
I don't know when there's no kids sports that she's
got to do with. And she's a photographer on the side, right,

(38:49):
professional photographer and.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
She did in a hustle.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
Yeah, and she didn't have any photo shoots that day
on a Saturday. I'm like, fantastic, Let's take this day
because here's the deal. At the end of a month,
that week of fourth of July, we're taking off a
riding motorcycle down to Florida, right for vacation. So let's
take Saturday. We'll go to a couple of different spots.
We'll try on helmets for you, because she needs a

(39:11):
helmet because in every state but like two or helmet
loss right, So as I have spare helmets, I want
one that fits her right, because I've got like large
and I have a small, and she's a menial all right,
So I wanted to be.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Able to fit right. So so we go.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
We drive around, hit a couple places around town, cycle
gear and went to Myers and we're just checking out
helmets whatever. Now let's go for a ride. After all
that said and done, we're gonna go for a ride. Nice,
nice long ride. So it's like, all right, I bet
We take off and we go up to Bartlesville. It's
not that far away, right, We took the long route.

(39:52):
It was pretty awesome. Up Highway eleven right through sky
took stopton Pahusca. This is the best part of the weekend,
right we stop in Pahsca. We stop at that you know,
Pioneer Woman's store that she has, you know, check out
the choch keys, and you know, we had some of
the the baked goods that they sell there, which had

(40:17):
a pecan pie cookie that was probably the best, god
damn cookie I've ever had in my life.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
So good. Anyway, who on their Bingo card had one
of us going to read Drummonds place? And who definitely
had Jimmy being the one to go.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
Knowing nobody I she said she wanted to go, and
I kind of looked at her a little like sounds
pretty gay. But that's what you want to do. That's
what we're gonna do, all right, why not? I'm here
for the right. So we do that, and we go
to Pahsca and I'm like, all right, great, well, let's
just jaunt over to Bartlesville and we are going to

(40:57):
have dinner in Bartlesville. Remember that Mexican buffet that we
talked about a listener, Yeah, yeah, Mataos is the name
of it.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Right here comes the worst part of the weekend.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
Get all the way up there to god damn Bartosville,
all that right and all.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
That good time. I am stoked.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
I am excited for some dang Mexican buffet. There's two
things right there that both me and my lady love
Mexican food and buffets. So this is shoo, this is
perfect for us, right, She's all, I can't wait all
the fah to meat that I can just stack on
my plate. No tortillas, Just give me faida meat and onions. Right,

(41:39):
I'm with you tacos all day. Oh, we're just dreaming
of how awesome this is going to be. We're really
excited for this Mexican buffet. We get all the way
up there after circling the block because it's like your
locations on the left, your locations on the left. I
don't see this sound betch anywhere? All right, boom, found
it great?

Speaker 1 (41:58):
They're closed, Ah.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
Not just because because here's the deal and get online.
It's like, yes, we're open from eleven to two, and
then we close or whatever, and we're we're open again
from five to eight. So it's like serving lunch, take
a little break, make some more food, and we're gonna
serve you dinner. That's at least how I understood it. Anyway,

(42:21):
And we get there, it's like five thirty and they closed,
and apparently they closed for good.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
So I got up there. They're out of business. No,
they're yeah, they're out.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
They ain't happening anymore. And I was upset, I really was.
Both of us were upset. We're like, well, hell, now here,
we are starving in Bartlesville. Them Mexican buffets not open.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
What are we gonna do.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
We're sitting in the parking lot. We've gotta find something.
And we ended up passing this place called and found
it on the map. It's called Remys Remis Arcade and
beast Row. Yeah, I've been there, It's I've been fine.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
It was all right, it was all right.

Speaker 10 (43:07):
Her heart was set Matos.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yes Mexican. I mean the bot that I had at
Remy's was all right, should text me there's a great
place close to Remy's. Okay. I have to keep that
in mind next time I take a journey to Bartlesville
for food for Mexican. It was just the Oh, it
was the worst, heart broken both of us. Yeah, I
don't know how you handled it. I mean, it's not vomiting. No.

Speaker 11 (43:32):
No.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Best and worst of the weekend. What's the best part
of the weekend and the worst part of the weekend.
The best part of the weekend for me is I
took my mom to Colorado Springs, just a trip with
her and I. It was awesome. It's Colora Spreeze is
stunningly gorgeous. Town size is equal to Tulsa. And we

(43:55):
went took a train through the mountains and have open
cars so you can still out in the open car,
and you're in the valley in between these mountains and
just wild, cool stuff. And then the worst part was
we were gonna go up to Pike's Peak and take
a train up then and I get a note in

(44:19):
the morning and the note says that hey, we're gonna
cancel your tickets because of unfavorable conditions. Wow, it was
a blizzard. You can't see that. That's a white Oh yeah, yeah, wow,
because they have a cam at the top and I saw,
I look when I got that note, I looked at
it and yeah, you can't see. And somebody went up

(44:42):
later in the day. They let some people go up
later in the day and they're like leaning into the
wind blowing on them. There are the trains iced over,
they can't get the door open. I'm like, yeah, it
feels like the best idea that we didn't go then
for sure. Yeah, and it was the thing I was
really looking forward to, fourteen thousand feet in the air,
top of you know, top of the world, that that

(45:03):
kind of stuff's very cool above the clouds. But we
ended up making up for it and went to Seven Falls,
which is a little walk and then there's seven waterfalls
that when you see, you go, damn, that's wildly cool.
And yeah, so it was. It was awesome. It was
a very cool trip. And yeah, I was trying to

(45:26):
think of food wise, I have anything really great? It
was all it was all fine.

Speaker 10 (45:30):
Probably some good beersh.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yeah I had. I had some pretty good beers.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
Yeah, a couple of good car helios, which is a
cocktail I like.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
But yeah, it was awesome. And uh, sharing a room
with your mother's an interesting experience, but so good if
you shared a room or if you're a separate room.
N My wife was like, I thought you would have
got separate rooms. It's like, why would I waste that money?
That's my mom, Like, what's the big deal.

Speaker 6 (45:56):
I prefer separate rooms. I don't mind sharing a room
with anybody, you know, to go out as groups, you know,
you rallies and whatnot, and I don't mind. I would
just rather have my.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Own listen with friends. One hundred percent. The person that
birthed me. My wallet says it's fine, right, my wallet says,
this is a completely acceptable scenario.

Speaker 6 (46:17):
Separate beds. Oh, of course, okay. I just didn't know
how close you and your mom were.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
So I have not slept in my mom's bed. Maybe ever, Oh,
I'm sure you did as a as a small child. No, No,
I think the last time I was to sleep in
my mom's bed I was seven, six or seven. So
I don't get Yeah, I don't have a memory of
sleeping in my mom's bed. Wow, that doesn't mean it

(46:44):
didn't happen. I just don't have a memory of it.
That one out, I guess sure. My mom and dad
had a TV in their room and we thought it
was so cool and we would ask to watch TV
and they be like, nope, that's our room.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
Like yes, strict baby boomer type of rules. That's sanctuary, man,
No kids allowed. Getah your sticky hands out of here.

Speaker 7 (47:07):
I remember being around seven or eight years old and
having a nightmare and going into my parents' room and saying,
can I sleep with you? I had a nightmare and
I wet their bed and they were like, that is
the last time you come into our room and sleep
with us?

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, that's definitely a showstopper. Yes, Should he be waiting
the bed at seven or eight?

Speaker 7 (47:28):
I mean I think the last time I went the
bet I was probably ten or eleven.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Really, yes, yeah, you never did hear your twenties?

Speaker 6 (47:39):
Yeah, you're missing out clothes hamper right there before?

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah. Best and worst the weekend? What's the best part
of the weekend? What's the worst part of the weekend?
Best got to surprise the front in Texas I hadn't
seen in twenty seven years. Worst had a tire blowout
on the way home and spent four hours and two
hundred and thirty six dollars on roadside of distance I
forgot I didn't have see twenty seven years. That's quite

(48:08):
the commitment to go see somebody you haven't seen in
twenty seven years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good on you. Best
put about three hundred miles on the bike. Worst forgot
to put on sunscreen, got burned. Yeah, that happens. Best
got some deep cleaning done this weekend. What's her name?
Worst burnt my hand cooking dinner last night. That happens.

(48:31):
Best celebrated fourteen year, fourteenth anniversary of marriage, and my
husband has taken me to lambeau Field to see a
Packers game. Worst. I think I picked up a bug,
but put it down. Yeah, I think fourteen is football.

Speaker 6 (48:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, because you got like paper, yeah, and
there's like pewter and bronze and gold and silver, and.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
I think you're right. I think yeah, I think big
skin is yeah, big skin. Yeah. All right, we got
to take a break. We've got tickets to Rock the
River and you'll get qualified for a special Metallica prize
as well. We'll explain that coming back from.

Speaker 9 (49:15):
You're listening to the Big Man Morning Show. This is
Tulsa's Morning Show.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Let's see what Kimpie has in his four x four
Well Corbyn.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
It says here that New York lawmakers could vote on
assisted suicide bill. New York lawmakers could vote today on
a bill that would legalize assisted suicide across the state.
The controversial legislation dubbed the Medical Aid and Dying Act,
would allow a doctor to prescribe life ending drugs to
people with six months or less to live. Members of

(49:48):
the Catholic Church and disability rights advocates oppose the bill,
arguing it does not have enough safeguards in place to
prevent abuse. However, State Senator Jessica Scarsella spent sure I
think it's how he said, has been pushing to pass
the bill, saying that it's about choice and allows those

(50:09):
who are eternally ill to choose a peaceful and dignified
passing that says here that long lasting HIV prevention shot
is headed towards the FDA for approval. A new HIV
prevention shot is expected to win approval by the US.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Food and Drug Administration later this month.

Speaker 6 (50:30):
The shot is called len Acapevere and would be given
two times a year and could be a big advancement
in the fight against the HIP. The shot was tested
on a study of women and girls by drug maker
Gilead Sciences Sciences. None of the study participants who received

(50:52):
the shot got HIV. I had that same perplexed look
on my face when I read that what else we
got here on a lawful assembly declared for all of
downtown Los Angeles. Police are telling all demonstrators to leave
the area immediately. This comes after civil unrest continued into

(51:13):
the night, with crowds now marching and gathering near La
La Live and Crypto Dot Com Arena. There, multiple police
cars have been pelted with objects. There are also reports
of a man driving recklessly at high speeds and endangering
pedestrians and causing a motorcyclist to go down. Several fires
have been seen burning in the streets.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
It's a mess.

Speaker 6 (51:37):
And then lastly here the Osage Chapter of the Priesthood
Motorcycle Club is set to hold a poker run for
Webster High School. The o Sage Chapter of the Priesthood
Motorcycle Club is set to hold a poker run on
June fourteenth to raise money for the Webster High School
wrestling team. This year, all the money goes raised goes
to buying wrestling uniforms for the wrestling team Webster High School.

(52:01):
They're still looking for writers to join a fundraiser and
invite everyone to come to Cognizant Church to celebrate and
have fun. Registration for the event begins at ten am
on June fourteenth, and a cost you twenty dollars for
each Good morning.

Speaker 7 (52:11):
Lindsay, Good morning Corbin. Have you downloaded the new and
improved iHeartRadio app if you haven't, do so right now,
and you can set kmode as your first preset so
you never have to miss a show.

Speaker 10 (52:26):
Also use the.

Speaker 7 (52:27):
Talkback feature and maybe leave a question there for Attorney
Jeff Hensley when he joins us at nine o'clock this morning.

Speaker 6 (52:35):
Good morning, Gibbie, Well, good morning Corbin. I want you
to make your plans this weekend to join me and
all the winners of this week's games for Rock the
River happened down a Sparrowhawk Campgrounds in Tahlequah. There's going
to be all kinds of contest miss Rock the River contest,
a wet t shirt contests. The owner was telling me
that Talaquas Riverside Liquor is providing free beer for the

(52:59):
after party.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
So if you like free beer, ah, you can't beat that.

Speaker 10 (53:02):
That's best kind.

Speaker 6 (53:03):
Get your tickets at ticketstorm dot com.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Congratulations are an order because we're qualifying people for km
Oodies fifty for fifty fifty years of Miller Lite, and
we're going to give someone fifty pairs of concert tickets.
You got to get qualified by listening to us. We've
qualified Kevin More of East Tulsa, We've qualified Kenneth Fernandez
of Warner. You can get qualified to. Another chance is
coming up in fifty one minutes, so be listening for

(53:28):
that queue. Let's go ahead and do. Our listeners are awesome.
Donnie is on the line. Hey Donnie, how are you?

Speaker 12 (53:35):
I'm good?

Speaker 7 (53:35):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (53:36):
I'm good? Donnie's been married thirty nine years. Dude, that
is fantastic. Congratulations. Tell me how did you meet your wife?

Speaker 12 (53:48):
Oh? We were our travels in high school and she
didn't like me because I was a jock and and
but I want her over eventually.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
And how did you win her over? How did you
sway her from hating you to wanting you?

Speaker 12 (54:07):
Ah, just good personality, I think.

Speaker 9 (54:11):
So.

Speaker 12 (54:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
It might be the other thing that we'll get to.
It says here that you are a barbecue pitmaster. How
did you get into barbecuing?

Speaker 12 (54:24):
I'd just like to cook and just kind of got
started and the next thing, you know, where it's going
to contest after contest everywhere. So something we really enjoyed
as a family back then. So now it's just me
in the lasts and the daughter's grown up and you know,
want her own way.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
And uh, what was the first bar thing you barbecued
or smoke that you went? WHOA, I might I might
be good at this.

Speaker 12 (54:53):
Oh you always think you're good until you hit the
contest circuit. Then you'll get the in line real quick.
So the family and friends are your worst judges because
they're for free.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
What what's the most competitions you've done in a season?

Speaker 12 (55:15):
Uh? Fifty one?

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Damn and paint that for me. What's that look like?
Is that like every other weekend over a few months.
What does that look like?

Speaker 12 (55:24):
Well, fifty two weekends and a year, so you know,
some of them contests are doubles almost. You know, you
cook two different contests and the same at the same venue,
so you know, like the American Role, there's three contests
at one venue, so you get three contests in one weekend.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
What's the best one that you've ever Maybe you didn't
place well, but what was one of the best ones
you've ever been to?

Speaker 12 (55:55):
Uh? There's three of them? Really, I mean you got
the Jack Daniels Will Championship, American Role, I'm the King
of a Smoker, which was in Palm Springs, Indio, California.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
And what's your best placement you've done at a competition
that you're they're most proud of.

Speaker 12 (56:20):
It had to be too of an American Role and
Jack Daniels World Championship by winning both of them. So
those are pretty close to your heart when you win
the world's largest and you win the World Championship.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Yeah, yeah, I encourage anybody because it's just up the
road is to go to the American Royal Barbecue. It is.
It is crazy to see so many people smoking meat.

Speaker 12 (56:45):
Yes, I mean you're looking at five hundred plus teams.
You know some years just closer to six hundred, and
you figure six hundred cookers and six hundred teams in
one space. Now it's at the infield of the Kansas
Speedway where they have the name car Race. So it's
it's pretty neat driving through the tunnel, and you know,
that's why it makes it pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
It was cool to see it in the bottoms. I
mean it was spread out by the old arena and stuff.
That meant it was a very unique experience. But having
them concentrate in one spot has also got to be
pretty spectacular.

Speaker 12 (57:17):
Bottoms is my favorite place, but that's where I grew
up cooking and winning. I won a lot in the
Bottoms and the Bottoms always special to my heart. Too
bad that got moved to where's at now? But the
Bottoms was always cool because you had the dark side
and then you had the invitational side, which is people

(57:37):
are a little more serious. To go to the dark
side and see a lot of crazy things from I
sluges with porn shops down them with sculptures, it's pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Yeah. I worked that event one time and it was
wild to have people, like you said, just taking it
so serious. And then this other part is just a party.
Like it's the barbecue and alcohol.

Speaker 12 (58:01):
Yeah, I'm burning trash cans stay warm when it was cold.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Yeah, what's the weirdest thing you've ever sampled at? Someone
barbecued and you liked And what's the worst?

Speaker 12 (58:16):
As a judge one time at the Jack Daniels World Championship,
and of course you got foreign teams over there, and
we judged a rib that was cooked like a party rib,
you know, individually cooked, but they piled the sugar on it,
and then I guess the fire got away from so

(58:38):
it was like even burnt brown sugar on a rib
and it was not good.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
That's just the thing about being a judge, is you
dit a lot of bad stuff and some good stuff,
and what's the best thing you've ever had?

Speaker 12 (58:53):
Uh, that's hard to say. We've made a lot of
good stuff, you know, of our own, and a lot
of good stuff from friends, So that would I really
don't I don't know where to what I could say
there as far as.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Yeah, let me rephrase the question. When I say, what's
the best thing you've ever tasted off of barbecue? What
pops in your brain? What's the vision you remember the
bite you had? Where were you? What was what was it?

Speaker 12 (59:32):
Probably some smoked lobster at the American role from a
guy that was from up in the Northeast. He did
a really good job with you know, the sauce is
what kind of put it over the top or that
he made? It was really good.

Speaker 7 (59:54):
Is there any certain meat that you just won't try
to try to smoke or trying to touch because you're
just like, I just can't do it.

Speaker 12 (01:00:06):
I don't think there's anything I can't cook, so you
know it may not be perfect, but you know, I'll
give her a run at it, and I do it again.
I know all day it'll be better.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
So I imagine you do like a lot of traditional
foods there, Donnie like briskets and ribs. What's probably the
most exotic or unexpected meat that you've cooked, barbecued or smoked? Done?

Speaker 12 (01:00:43):
Donet goat wants. I mean it's it's, you know, something
that's not in your wheelhouse every day, so it's it's
a little different type deal, you know, But that's about
as exotic ause I've ever got.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Goat's not bad. I've had go before. Goat it's gonna beat.

Speaker 12 (01:01:01):
Yeah, It's just it's just, you know, when you're not
used to doing it, it's just, you know, you got
a learning curve.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
I just put some something together here because I see
it says you're from Spury, but I didn't realize you're
the you do the you have the truck on.

Speaker 12 (01:01:17):
Eleven, yeah, or up beside the donut shopping Spury.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
I've eaten there many times. What I'm going out to
Tall Chief or yeah, I've beaten. I've eaten your barbecue
many times. It's it's fantastic. Did you do prime rib
at one time at one point too.

Speaker 12 (01:01:36):
Yeah, well done it for many years. But the price
has just gotten some nuts. You know, it's hard to
justify charging somebody sixteen seventeen dollars for a sandwich, you
know in this area. Yeah, just you know, they just
you know, they'll gripe or tell somebody I got a
sandwich of air of seventeen dollars. But you know, you

(01:01:59):
need to tell them what you're getting and not let
everybody assume it was a blowny sandwich for that price, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Right, Well, and what you're saying just shows the top
character you are. Like some people would have no problem
putting that on a menu and just people buy it,
they buy it, but you do you don't feel right
about charging people that. So for those that are know
your your truck, like you said, it's right there on
eleven either if you're coming from the from the north,
it's after you go south on that curve through the city,

(01:02:27):
it'll be on the north side of the road on eleven.
And it's like I said, it's truck right next to
the donut shop and it's always real good and you're
gonna be open today.

Speaker 12 (01:02:36):
Yeah, I'll be open today. I'm usually here unless it's
pouring down rain or something, and I always change the
answering machine on the phone. I'm open or closed.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
And Uh, you recently got into the Hall of Fame
for barbecue and you're one of only two Oklahomans that
are in it. How do you find out you were
in the running or how'd you find out that you
got chosen?

Speaker 12 (01:03:01):
Well, the American Roll calls and which they run the
Barbecue Hall of Fame, and it all started. Give you
a little background here. It all started from two guys,
Ray Basso, which ran the barbecue for him on the
internet back in the nineties and early two thousands, and
a guy named Mike Tucker out of Iowa started this

(01:03:24):
and then it just got it was growing, and so
they gave it. They approached the American role about taking
it over, and so they made a separate entity of
the Barbecue Hall of Fame off the American Roll. So
it all got started like that. But anyway, they called
and told me that I was a top ten finalist,

(01:03:47):
and this year I didn't get as excited as I
have because I was on the list in twenty two
and twenty three, but I didn't make it into the
Hall of Fame. You know, the first two times they
called to it all, I didn't you go from the
ultimate high to the ultimate low and a few days
later you don't get the call. You know, you just

(01:04:07):
like I made the list. That was nice, but you know,
you you know you want in, you know. But this
year they called and said I was the finalist. And
they said that was on a Wednesday. And they said
they'd let us know on a Thursday or Friday. And
I got a call back and said that made it in,
and it was you know, I'm just glad I didn't

(01:04:31):
have any customers when I got the call, because seeing
a girl man cry like a baby, it was I
mean it was. I mean for us, it's you know,
like and in Major League Baseball or NFL. I mean,
that's what it means to us in the barbecue world
to get into something like this. You know, it's not

(01:04:52):
an easy task. You know, I don't know who all
wrote the letters denominate me. I didn't write the letters,
you know. I got to thank all them or whoever
it was that wrote the letters to put me on
the list to get nominated, but you've got to go
to a nominating committee to get on the finalist list,

(01:05:13):
and then all the Hall of Fame members vote to
see who gets in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
I mean, any Hall of Fame you get into, usually
that means you've been by your peers saying you have
been a trailblazer and an important part of our history.
So congratulations. That is that's got to feel good. And
you probably got all these other competitions you've won, but
that probably feels just cream of the crop.

Speaker 12 (01:05:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's right up. Or I mean it's
you know, it's it's pretty moving to get the phone
call and then see your name on the list with
you know, three other people that's going to get in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Well, I want to ask you a couple more questions,
and these are just kind of be speed around what's
your opinion type of questions. I think I know the
answer to this, But gas or charcoal?

Speaker 12 (01:06:12):
Charcoal all day?

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
And are you what's your do you use a combination
of brisquetes or and then like actual charred wood or
what do you what do you like to use?

Speaker 12 (01:06:25):
If I'm a contest, it's lump charcoal and cherry wood.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
And do you have a place you like to get
your cherry wood or it doesn't matter.

Speaker 12 (01:06:36):
Yeah, most of the time I get it over at
o Wassa from the trade place at Rickards.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Yeah, I see more guys that barbecue. I know a
guy from Kansas City that he'll make his way down
here for competitions to get his wood from there.

Speaker 12 (01:06:54):
Right, Yeah, I usually get it there, and that's kind
of my go to place. I like going over there,
and you always get a good product, and you know,
it's all pretty uniform in size.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
So all right, here's another one. What meat do you
never mess up? You've always gotten? Right?

Speaker 12 (01:07:17):
Oh boy? Yeah, if you cook long enough, you're gonna
mess something up. But uh, I don't know. I would
say ribs are usually pretty much you know, cook a
lot of ribs.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
So and what's your nemesis? What's the one you just
have tried for years and you've just never been happy
with it?

Speaker 12 (01:07:40):
Uh? Contest wise, you got to be good and all
four to win. And I've won my fair share. So
you know, by the time you think you got something
figured out, so the weekend it falls off and the
one that's been you know, kind of holding you down,
it pops up and you're doing good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
So you.

Speaker 12 (01:08:00):
Just never know. Just been on how the stars are
lined up?

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
All right? What sauce? Carolina's, Kansas City, Texas, Memphis? What
what do you? What do you?

Speaker 9 (01:08:12):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Memphs more of a rubb? But like what's your what's
your sauce? Who's got the best sauce?

Speaker 12 (01:08:17):
Tomato base is the way to go in my opinion.
I mean that's always done me well. And and uh,
you know, I tell you a little story about sauce.
We went to cooked in Virginia and a bunch of
Carolina boys are there and they seen the plates from

(01:08:38):
Oklahoma and said, boy, you should have left that Tomato
base sauce in Oklahoma. And uh end up winning first
and second in sauce with its Mada based sauce. And
when the contest and everything else, and as I was leaving,
they were wanting to taste that sauce. I remember that

(01:08:59):
tomato base. Ass don't work over here?

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Just kept on driving, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
I got another one for you because I got some
just some fun questions to ask you. If I can
find my sheet here? I lost it already, all right?
And beer bourbon or sweet tea while grilling.

Speaker 12 (01:09:24):
It used to be beer, but uh, June first has
been three years since I've had any alcohol, so I
just quick cold turkey and I hadn't looked back. But
it was always beer, and every now and then it'd
be bourbon. But I I was more of a beer hand.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
And has your grilling got gotten better? Or do you
feel like it's dropped off since then?

Speaker 12 (01:09:49):
Oh, don't change, and don't change.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Do you do it in your sleep? And probably have? Right?

Speaker 12 (01:09:56):
Yeah? Yeah, I think about it a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Yes, And then the last one, I and you gotta
be honest here, have you ever dropped meat on the floor,
on the ground and put it back on the grill
and served it?

Speaker 12 (01:10:12):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
I believe you have.

Speaker 6 (01:10:16):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
I have no reason not to believe you. Listen, it's
been awesome talking to you. Everybody go by his barbecue
stand today. I'd love to get him sold out before
what time do you normally sell out?

Speaker 12 (01:10:30):
Well, since I've been on TV here, after the Hall
of Fame deal and a newspaper and now y'all's deal,
I've been light. It's been twelve thirty one o'clock. I've
been running out. I've been took an extra, but I
think took it enough. But I don't want to get
stuck with a bunch of it because I have no
place to go with it because I work out of
a single bore refrigerator.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
So yeah, well let's let's get him sold out again.
Let' see if we can beat the twelve thirty time.
And thank you so much, Donnie, and thanks for just
being you know, somebody, the community, especially up there in Sperry,
and because you could have moved to Tulsen, you didn't.
You stayed right there to support that community and it's
really great man, So thank you so much for the
years of barbecue, and thanks for taking the time to
talk to us.

Speaker 12 (01:11:11):
Uh you be, thanks for having me and always enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Very good sir, Donnie, have a great day. Thank you
all right, see laire, that's Donnie. Our listeners are awesome.
We're gonna take a break and we'll be back.

Speaker 9 (01:11:23):
More of the Big Man Morning Show is next ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
D on the East Coast. He apparently was drunk and
he wanted to go to his skating rink that he owned. Okay,
owns a skating rink. Sure, skating rings are fine. Yeah,

(01:11:49):
everybody needs a sid hustle, but the police were investigating
the shooting of an officer, and he didn't take too
kindly that they weren't letting him get to a skating rink,
and so he said that they needed to let him
buy because he owned land over there, he owned a business,

(01:12:11):
and the police told him to get bent along those lines.
I'm paraphrasy. He then decided to give him a piss
off his mind, and they didn't take too kindly to
that because they started noticing he kind of smelled like alcohol,
and they said, we'd like to give you a blood
alcohol test, and he went fine, and then he measured

(01:12:36):
twice the legal limit. Oh, he was taken into custody
and he's booked out.

Speaker 6 (01:12:43):
He's back on the air allegedly, And there was a
comment he made on Facebook, but that apparently has been
taken down off his page. Yeah, and I was trying
to think should he get it fired from his of that. Now,
people get to you eyes in many jobs.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
I don't know if that's necessarily a reason for you
to get fired. But when he become a belligerent dick,
right right, That's where I'm like, Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:13:13):
I make comments about it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Right that's probably where I went wrong.

Speaker 6 (01:13:17):
Everything would have been fine if he would have not
taken to social media to give him a piece of
his mind.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
No, no, no, he gave him a piece of mind to
his their face, right right, right.

Speaker 6 (01:13:26):
But so afterwards as what I'm talking about with his
little Facebook stuff, I mean, yeah, you go to jail.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
It happens, doesn't mean you're not a bad worker. And
he tried to play it off like in true radio douchiness.
W was like, ah here, it's going to rain today,
like no acknowledgment, really, and then a different post where
he said everything fine, and then that got taken down.
But I it feels you could imply that doing that

(01:13:51):
shows you don't support law.

Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
Enforcement, right by getting up in their face, like yes, yeah, yes,
one could see it that way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
You could imply that, I don't know that's necessarily true.
It's just some radio guy doing radio show. Yuck aty yuck,
and it is what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:14:10):
I think if he wasn't inebriated, wasn't drunk and did
that right, just got up in the cops face and
was just an asshole.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Yeah, you're probably right, that's that's the type of person
he is. And going. But I think a drunken mistake.
That's drunken mistake. This has happened before with you and
I I don't think drunk being drunk gives you a pass. No,
you don't get away with it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:32):
There's still repercussions of what you've done, but it's a
little more understandable.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Oh I don't agree. I think it's less understandable. Okay,
because you already are doing something you know that lets
your guard down and changes your behavior, right, drinking. Yeah,
And so then you don't just get up an ah
when you do something really stupid and excusable, like you
know bad, you know bad? Yeah, murder a child?

Speaker 6 (01:14:56):
You shouldn't get a pass on that, you know, going
up and giving a cop a piece of your mind.
Because you're a little saucy me personally, I'd be like,
just get out of your drunkard, right, let's call somebody
to pick you up.

Speaker 7 (01:15:10):
And now that he's sober, is he going to apologize
for his action?

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Oh, he'll have to apolo.

Speaker 6 (01:15:14):
It'll be like I want to let people know that
I am really sorry, really really really sorry, and I
am working and saying prayers to make sure that this
will never happen again. Something along those lines, right, totally heartfelt,
not restricted. Yeah, yeah, but I think like if you

(01:15:37):
do something dumb when you're drunk, you're right, like people
should have been like, yeah, move along. But if you
won't shut up and you keep pushing, right, and you're like, okay,
well at that point you've got to do something. As
the law enforcement, you're like, I didn't want to have
to do with this today, but you kept on going.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
If they were investigating an officer getting shot, they were
already not playing right. Read the room. Bro, all right,
you can't right, not a good time to be douchiey dude.

Speaker 6 (01:16:07):
No, they're a little wound, a little tight. I'm sure
your skating rink's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Yes, that's the thing. Man.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
Like, if I'm all lit up and I see red
and blues and like you know, yellow tape, I'm not
gonna go appro y'all'll just.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Do your thing. Obviously I'm in the wrong area, right,
I'm out, I talk about all that even here, Like
I see any type of danger, I'm like, I'll go
the other way. I'll take the long way.

Speaker 6 (01:16:34):
I'm not gonna Hey, let's skating rink over there, and
I want to blade.

Speaker 7 (01:16:41):
Yea, no, nah, check on it tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
I'm sure exactly.

Speaker 13 (01:16:49):
I'll call and I'm sure he is insurance. So if
it does burn to the ground, Yes, they're right there.
First responders are right there. They're gonna see the smoke
probably before you. And by the way, like, what's going
to happen? Nothing, not a thing.

Speaker 6 (01:17:08):
I wonder what he wanted in there for. Did he
just want to do a couple of laps around the rink?
Or was he here's when I leave something there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Here's what I know about skating rink olders. They're very entitled.
That's my skating rink, all right. See that's side. There's
got my name on it. People do that with anything, though,
And when they think they own something, they think that
you have to let them do. Like I live there,
when okay, good for you.

Speaker 6 (01:17:36):
Right, and we got a job to do, and you
ain't getting in until we're done.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Right, do it like everybody else. Go park your car,
walk the long way around, right, get your phone out,
take video you right. I've thought of that before. Like
if they cording off my neighborhood and I can't get in,
I'll they all right, let's park my car and walk, right,
We're not how to climb a fence? Right, Well, you
get in trouble, yes you will, that's true. That's true.

(01:18:02):
I can't imagine they're running patrols, right, Well, they don't
need you stepped through the crime scene. OJ. No, that's true.

Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
I don't want to be near your crime scene exactly.
I'll go around. I got no right, I'll just walk
because we got dollar skates coming up. I gotta get
wild Boys ket up for the all with all men's skates,
yeah right, and then puppy Love for the couple skate.

(01:18:29):
Uh huh oh god.

Speaker 10 (01:18:31):
Maybe it was singles night and he didn't want to
miss that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Or he's picking up thirteen year olds. It was ladies night, mmm,
not lady's night. Girls night, Yeah, girls night. There's no
ladies night at skating right.

Speaker 6 (01:18:46):
I don't know a lot of adults that are like, hey,
it's Friday night, we should go to the skating rink.
Maybe every now and again you'll get one. That's just
because we haven't done it since we were kids. But
none of my adult friends anyway, it's like we only
do it when you're invited for birthday party.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Yeah, there's one. There's a skating rink in Oasso, and
there's a couple of around time, of course, but and
it's nice, video games, they got pizza, it's it's nice.
I'm wondering, what would it take for you to go
for a guy's night at the skating rink or a
lady's night right at adult night at the skating rink, leny,

(01:19:23):
because you might do it on a first date, right
when you're faking who you are. Oh good lord.

Speaker 7 (01:19:31):
Maybe the Chippendalees are showing up, but they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Do that there. That's not a thing you can't make.
I guess you can if that's what it would take.
So you need the Chippendales there. Okay. See this is
the problem with letting you do that, is what his
answer is going to be. Go ahead, you open the
door by creating that scenario.

Speaker 6 (01:19:50):
I was thinking, like, no nickel beer night, you know
something like that, and no dollar beer night.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
I go, I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:19:59):
I don't need the victorious secret angels out there. I mean,
I'm not hating, but being a little realistic. You know, hey, guys, hey,
they're having they're having silver coin night. That's skating rink
let's get our blades and go get toasted.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
You may go participate in silver Coin Night or Dollar
Night or all you can drink, but you're standing. You
ain't putting on the blades.

Speaker 6 (01:20:26):
I'd put on the blades. I don't know about the
rest of my friends.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Yeah, i'd be out.

Speaker 6 (01:20:30):
Of Hey, guys, you're really you're really missing out on
all the fun.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
It's a lot of standing around. But I don't hate
the idea. You know how they do like sorority car washes,
and that's all de catered to one group of individuals.
Why not do that at the skating rink. I'm okay
with that. Chippendale's Night is okay for Lindsey. I don't
know why you can't do Sorority Night. Sure, yeah, we'll

(01:20:55):
do Launcherie Night. You know, roller Derby would be for me.
I would go for roller Derby. That makes sense, and
a watch makes sense.

Speaker 6 (01:21:05):
But our roller Derby is really typically held at like
your your typical type of skating rink, aren't they like
special rinks with like banks and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:21:15):
I've never been to a roller Derby. I know we
have a team, I know we used to. I don't
know if we still do.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
That's true. I don't know if they still do. It's
been a couple of years. Yeah, I knew a girl
and she was on the team, and she rightfully was
on the team. Yeah, big old bruh Huh. I didn't
say that can be knock some bitches around. Huh. She
could knock some bitches around, but she was not a
big old girl. Yeah, she was tough as nails, but
that would be the only thing. I guess it's fair

(01:21:42):
as long as there's beer served, right, And it feels
slightly creepy for a radio DJ to buy a skating rink,
just being honest.

Speaker 7 (01:21:51):
Maybe it was in his family. Maybe it was you know,
maybe his parents owned it and it was gifted down
to him.

Speaker 10 (01:21:57):
Right, Maybe he was making a special appearance.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
You know, people suck, right. You always try to paint
this picture like it's all wholesome.

Speaker 10 (01:22:04):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 6 (01:22:05):
This skating rink has been in my family since nineteen
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
My grandpa's skating rink. It was my dad's skating rink.
It is my skating rink, and it will be your
skating rink.

Speaker 6 (01:22:16):
I won't you laugh, Dad tire skate you will keep
the skating rink going after I die.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Okay, Dad, we got to keep it going. Was pap
U's place. We gotta keep a couple skate alive. Growing up,
we had the black Hawk roller Dome and it was
a classic old skating rink with wooden floor. The wooden floor, right,
and then didn't have it had some like dance lights,
but it had a like make at home makeshift board

(01:22:47):
with the types of dances and then light bulbs behind them,
like total old school, right. And then we then a
new place opened up across town called skates Alive. I
mean by the name a nut loan. You know, we're
not aund anymore. It's now legit. And they had strobe
lights and big quality dance lights and a huge sound system.

(01:23:08):
And it was this thing back and forth on which
skating rink you would go to. Yeah, and then there
was a flood and the roller dome was done because
wood and water don't mix. All right, we gotta take
a break. We'll be back.

Speaker 5 (01:23:24):
Tulsa's Morning Show is coming right back.

Speaker 9 (01:23:26):
A big morning show, Tulsa's Rock Station ninety Kodny.

Speaker 7 (01:23:32):
Lindsay, Good Morning Corbyn and Happy Dirty thirty to porn
star Kira Thorn see this back Door Fishonado in Backdoor
Beauty's six Lets Be Real and Taste the Neighbor's Buns.
She was a twenty twenty two Hot Dogs in a
Hallway Award winner.

Speaker 6 (01:23:52):
Good Morning Gimby, Good morning Corbyn. Hey, I don't know
if you know this or not. There's this little music
festival going on this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
It's Old Rock the River.

Speaker 6 (01:24:00):
It's happening in the Sparrowhawk Campgrounds in Talllequad's Headpe and
Trapped and Tantrick and a whole buttload of bands that
are going to be playing all weekend long. And of
course I'll be out there and I want you to
join me. Get your tickets to tickets storm dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
And congratulations are in order as we qualified. Jared Waslowski
a Broken Arrow. Jared heard the Q and is qualified
for kmodes fifty for fifty celebrating fifty years of Miller
Lite by giving away fifty pairs of concert tickets. And
Jared could win all fifty because he's qualified, and you
need to get qualified to only with the Big Mad
Morning Show can that happen? So your next chances tomorrow

(01:24:34):
morning at six a m Kmod's fifty for fifty brought
to you by Miller Lite and KMOD. Join us in
the studio now is Jeff Hensley of Hensley and Associates.
Good morning, Jeff, Hey, good morning Jeff. Here to answer
your question you want you have about custody or guardianship
or name change or divorce or any family law question.
A couple ways to get it to us. You can

(01:24:54):
call it eight three three four six oh kmo D.
You can text BMMS and would whatever that question is
to eight two nine four five, or you can email
show at kmode dot com. This is one that came
in late last week. For certain reasons, I had to
let my son go down and live with his mother.
She lives in Collinsville technically on the Rogers County side,
and she has residential custody. We have joint custody. I

(01:25:18):
live in Washington County, Bartlesville, and apparently he's going to
school here next year. I was wondering, how does that work?

Speaker 11 (01:25:28):
Well, I mean, they've got a joint custody, and as
far as where the kid goes to school, does it?

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
It didn't say hold the child is right?

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
It does not? All right?

Speaker 11 (01:25:36):
So you know, as far as where a kid goes
to school, the parties can make an agreement when they
have joined custody whether or not they want to go
to a certain particular school.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
I mean, the problem you've got here from a logistics.

Speaker 11 (01:25:48):
Standpoint obviously, is someone's you know, the kid lives in Collinsville,
but maybe going to school in Bartlesville.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
I mean that's.

Speaker 11 (01:25:56):
Not not doable. I mean, that's a doable drive straight
of seventy five. I mean, that's not a super hard
thing to do, although not everybody would want to do
that every single day. So you know, it really comes
down to they have joint custody, they need to talk.
They need to make a joint decision on where this
kid is going to go to school, whether it be
in Collinsville or whether it be up in Bartlesville. So really,

(01:26:20):
I mean, there's not anything the court needs to do
at this particular juncture until they've talked. And that's what
I try to remind people to do all the time
in my practice is if you've got joint custody, my
first question is as well, if you talk to the
other parent, well, no, why are you calling me first?
Then you know, and I guess it kind of surprises

(01:26:41):
me to certain agree, because when you have joint custody
of the whole behind whole idea behind joint custody is
that you have to make joint major decisions together.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
That means talking.

Speaker 11 (01:26:51):
I mean you have to talk, whether it be by
text or in the parenting app or you know, God forbid,
on the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Always talk first.

Speaker 11 (01:27:00):
So these people may need to make that decision, and
if they can't, that's when the court can step in,
or if they have a parenting coordinator, we can send
them to the parenting coordinator who can help them make
that joint decision as to where their child should go.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
What's the difference between what you're describing and ignoring the
order or what they may feel is like ignoring the order?

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
Yeah, sure.

Speaker 11 (01:27:19):
So you know, if the order says joint custody and
someone is making a unilateral decision without discussing things with
the other side, that's when we have problems. Now, that
doesn't mean that we can't use a parenting coordinator first
before jumping on a contempt and other things in front
of a judge, But you know, if someone is making
those decisions without discussing it with the other side. If

(01:27:40):
it is a joint custody plan, then we have issues
that need to be addressed.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Jeff Hensley from Hensley Associates is in the studio to
answer your questions about family law that can be like divorce,
name change, adult guardianships, adult adoptions are even a thing
that he can explain if you have a question about
that or which is probably the most commonly brought up
thing that we hear. And yeah, and you in paternity yeah, uh,

(01:28:06):
And you can ask the question now a couple of
ways eight three, three four six, Oh, KMOD. You can
text BMMS and whatever that question is to eight two
nine four five or email show at kmod dot com.
This says I'm considering divorce and worried about protecting assets.
I pay all expenses and I'm the only one on
the mortgage, but my wife is on the deed. The
property is fully paid off with two homes, one for
my mother and aunt and one for us. I've been

(01:28:28):
married nearly ten years and want to know can I
add my mom and aunt to the deed to protect them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
I'm thinking about that one.

Speaker 11 (01:28:38):
I mean, first of all, you would have to get
approval from the other person, your wife, that you're adding
someone to the deed. Okay, the reason we put so
most people may or may not realize that in the
state of Oklahoma, when you buy a home and you're married.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
The other side is automatically thrown on the deed.

Speaker 11 (01:28:59):
Whether you her name is the sole name on the
mortgage or not, both parties get put on the deed.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
That's just Oklahoma law. For better or for worse, that's
just the way it is.

Speaker 11 (01:29:09):
And so it doesn't matter whose name the mortgage is in,
both parties are going to be on there. So if
he's got two homes, one of which his mom's living
here in or whatever, and the mortgage is in his name,
but the deed is in both the husband and the
wife's name, you can't just go throwing people on a
deed because what you're asking her to do is give
up her potential portion. If you're thinking about a divorce

(01:29:31):
of the equity and that potential home or in that
particular home, so you know what you're asking to do.
You have to get approval. You can't just go behind
the other sides back and say, oh, I'm throwing two
more people on the deed to try and quote make
it non marital. Well, that's just not going to fly.
It's just not going to work, and the court's going
to have some issues with that, right, so they're in

(01:29:53):
my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
The short answer is no, but the long answer is yes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Well you could.

Speaker 11 (01:29:57):
It depends right, Well, you could try and go behind
the backs. I mean again, when you're whenever you're doing
adding names to deeds or taking deeds off, you're looking
at quick claims and all other things. It's it takes
multiple signatures, not just yours and the person you're adding on.
When you've got a second person on the deed, I mean,
you can't go behind somebody's back and just start adding

(01:30:17):
names to deeds. If that were the case, everybody would
be doing it and it would cause all sorts of nightmares.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
And so you know, if you're trying to hide an asset.

Speaker 11 (01:30:25):
Or protect quote unquote protect the asset, sorry, I mean,
you're using marital funds to pay for the mortgage?

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
All right, most likely is my guess.

Speaker 11 (01:30:34):
It doesn't say, but that's typically what happens in this situation,
which means it's going to be considered a marital home,
which means the equity in the house. In that house,
even though Mama is living in it doesn't mean that
the other side's not going to get their potential portion.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
So you know, it's shady. Okay, let's just call it
what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
You don't want to be shady.

Speaker 11 (01:30:54):
And maybe and that's not an official legal term. Okay,
but it's shady. What is the term that my kids
are using?

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
Now? It's sus right and the musn't right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
Just the way you said it, remember.

Speaker 11 (01:31:07):
I mean it just remember I got four young ones,
so it's like I got to keep up with the lingo.
And sometimes I look at them and go, are you
guys speaking English?

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
And then I have to think to myself, my god,
is that what my parents thought of us?

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
So anyway, uh, let's talk about the but the mortgage
and the deed. People will hear that a lot and
people go, right, so I'm I'm on the mortgage, they're
on the deed or we're on the dal.

Speaker 11 (01:31:28):
So mortgage is the money that's paid for the house. Right, Nothing,
it means nothing. It's just alone you went out and
took out. And sometimes you do mortgages with only one
person's name on it for different reasons because someone has
better credit. You know that happens a lot, okay, or
someone was.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
You bought them.

Speaker 11 (01:31:47):
You bought the house before you got married, and then
it's therefore your only your name's on the mortgage, and
then you get married and make it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Marital and blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 11 (01:31:56):
So you know, A deed is different though, I mean
indeed is is the piece of paper that essentially says
I have a claim to this property.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
I am joint.

Speaker 11 (01:32:07):
Excuse my careful of my legal terms here. The basic
gist of it is is it says I have an
interest in this property.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
That's what a deed is.

Speaker 11 (01:32:17):
I guess the simpler way to think of it is
think of I think all us the group in Oklahom.
We took Oclhoma history, right, So you think about the
land run right, and you had to go out and
stake your claim.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
That's what a deed is.

Speaker 11 (01:32:27):
Essentially, you were staking your claim on that piece of property,
on that house, on the spit of land that it sits,
on those sorts of things.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
How does it work when people have homes and then
they get married and then that person moves into the home,
does the deed change automatically, a.

Speaker 11 (01:32:42):
Deed doesn't change, no, and typically the deed doesn't change,
all right, Sometimes the deeds will if the parties want
to do it that way, but the deed doesn't have
to change. But that doesn't mean that that person doesn't
have a marital interest in the more in that house.
So for example, let's say you've had a how that
you've been living in for five years before you get married.

(01:33:02):
You bring the other side in, all right, they start
living there, You make it your marital residence. You know,
everything's all happy and wonderful, and then all of a
sudden the divorce hits.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Right, So from the.

Speaker 11 (01:33:13):
Date of marriage to the data separation or the date
that the excies me the petition for divorces filed, all right,
you both have a fifty percent interest in whatever increase
there is in that or equity that exists in that
particular land or in that house. So you know, let's
say it increased one hundred thousand dollars in the ten

(01:33:33):
years you were married before you file for divorce, each
walk away with fifty after well, each walk away fifty
percent after the closing costs. If you're going to refinance
it or whatever it may be or you know, my
point is you're entitled to fifty percent of the equity.
So the deed may still be in that first person,
that that person who originally bought it may still just
be in their name. That doesn't mean that the spouse

(01:33:56):
doesn't have a marital interest in it.

Speaker 6 (01:33:58):
So if you own a home and you get married
to somebody and move them in and you and you
have a prenup, does that first the home and the
value can always come during the marital time.

Speaker 11 (01:34:11):
Well, it all depends on how you write the prenup.
So you know, you can have a prenup. And this
is I don't know if you guys have been following
the prenup for Jeff Bezos, right, So his attorneys, he's
probably got the most expensive attorneys in the face of
God's green earth. They're probably like ten thousand an hour,
and they're working on this what they call an what
they're calling an ironclad nothing will ever break it. There's

(01:34:36):
no way she could ever come in and contest it
or complain about it kind of prenup. Right, And that's
because the guys were billions, all right. He's not elon,
all right, He's not as wealthy as Elon, but he's close, right,
so you know they're working on this gigantic prenup. Well,
in that prenup you can put a lot of things.
I mean, you can put in there and says, Okay,
whatever I walk into the marriage with is mine. If

(01:34:58):
we divorce, there's you know, portions in there. You can
put in there that say, well, you know, from the
date of merit to the day if we have a divorce,
then you're entitled a fifty percent of whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
That may be.

Speaker 11 (01:35:09):
But all the house is mine. I mean, there's all
sorts of ways you can write a prenup. The only
thing you can't throw in there is you can't you
can't label well, the kids are mine, right, kids are
not property. You can't label them that way. And a prenup.
But you know, there's all sorts of other things, and
I'm sure Bezos is going to have something like everything.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
That's mine is mine.

Speaker 11 (01:35:30):
You get to hang out and be with me, and
it's it's all wonderful because I'm the billionaire and you
get to live this wonderful lifestyle. But at the end
of the day, you know, if you cheat on me,
then I'll give you. I don't know, fifty million dollars
and you go away, you know, Okay, Well, I mean
that's a drop in the bucket for bezos. Okay, that's
like unbelievable money for us, but for him it's it's
just a you know, drop in the bucket.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
So the prenups can be catered individually.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
I mean, you can absolutely tailor it to whatever you
need it to be, for sure. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
Jeff Finzley's in the studio to answer your questions, not
just about prenups and custody and things like that, but
anything that has to do with family law, like this
one that got text in. So my baby's mom was
still married when she had our kid, but I don't know,
and I didn't know, and put me on as the
dad on the paper. Do I need to fix something?

Speaker 11 (01:36:19):
You have a what we call a yupa issue, okay,
that stands for a uniform Parentage Act.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
And the problem you've got is.

Speaker 11 (01:36:29):
Is you've got the fact that technically, under the law,
the married individual, the husband, is considered the legal dad.
Now the problem that you've got here is, even though
he's legal dad, you have somebody else on the birth certificate.
So now we have a problem that has to be
straightened out should a divorce ever happen. You've also got

(01:36:52):
an issue, and there's ways to fix it. I mean, it's
not insurmountable by any means. I mean, basically, the legal
dad is going to have to sign a disclaimer and
this guy is gonna have to sign an acknowledgment. All right,
So the legal dad is saying the child is not mine,
it happened during our marriage. While the while the child

(01:37:14):
is a was born during the marriage, the child is
not a product of the marriage, and therefore the other
dude is the responsible party in this case. So it's
not instrementable.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
It's fixable.

Speaker 11 (01:37:27):
But this is the headache we get into when we
start having babies while we're still married. I had a
case one time where you know, it happened multiple times
and we had to fix it all the time because
it took a while to get the divorce done. And so,
you know, it's one of those things that it's not instrumentable.
It can be done, and if you've got that issue,
please give me a call.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
Jeff Finsley from Hensley and Associates is in the studio
to answer questions about FAMI law. This text kind of
follows up we're just talking about with prenups. Are animals, pets,
livestock considered property.

Speaker 11 (01:37:55):
Yes, I know that for you animal lovers out there,
you don't like that. Up, I'm sorry, I know that
you're they're your babies. Trust me, before we had kids,
we had beagles. I get it all right, But at
the end of the day, the law basically says and
animals are property.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
There really are. I mean, especially livestock. I mean livestock.

Speaker 11 (01:38:17):
You're not going to name every you know, if you
got five hundred head of cattle, you're not going to
name every one of them in love on them and
all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
I mean, they're just cattle.

Speaker 11 (01:38:24):
Those are very easily dealt with in a prenup as
far as dealing with herds and things like that. But
when you're talking about, you know, animals, yes, they're their property.
So you know, if you walk into the marriage with
Fife and you know your your teacut poodle and uh,
you get a divorce, you can put in there that
Fifi goes with you. I mean that there's there's ways

(01:38:45):
to handle that. But yes, the basic answer the question
is animals are property. They are not people, and guess
what they are definitely not children. Although I have done
joint custody plans for animals before and divorces.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
I've done that.

Speaker 11 (01:38:59):
For a bird, a cockatil, a rare dog. We have
one right now that my associate's handling where we're doing
one for dog who's a mutt.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
I had one.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Well, I love that you try to, you know, discredited
by calling.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
It a mutt. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 11 (01:39:17):
One of those sayings is it's not like a it's
not like AKC registered and it's it's it's it's it's
not a Westminster Winner. I mean, I'm not saying that.
I'm not diminishing it. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
Let's need love to man, right they.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
That's for darn sure. I mean I totally get that.

Speaker 11 (01:39:31):
Uh My point is is that we can do custody
plans for any kind of animal. I mean I even
did one one time for a dog that had less
than three months to live and was riddled with cancer
and these people were fighting overs. So you know it
can be done. But in a prenup they are considered property.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
Jeff Finsley from Hensley and Associates is in the studio,
and he's here to answer questions like about divorce, custody,
pre nups and this one that I always find interesting
that we do and you talk about you like doing these.
I want to adopt my stepson. His dad hasn't seen
him in six years, but pays court ordered support. Support,

(01:40:08):
hasn't followed through with the ordered therapy, et cetera. He
is twelve and I have raised him since he was
six months old. Any advice on how to start.

Speaker 11 (01:40:17):
Well, okay, so first of all, I'm assuming, and of
course we all know what that is, assuming you know
where dat the bio dad is. Of course, we've got
to give him notice of the adoption itself and what's
going on. And you file what's called an adoption without consent,
assuming that he will not sign over his rights. Okay,
a relinquishment of rights is what it's called. Assuming he

(01:40:39):
won't relinquish his rights because he's paying child support. Now
the problem you run into with an adoption without consent,
and this is all considering that it's not an equa issue,
which is Indian child will for x so by the
Native Americans. We will get to that issue in just
a moment. But for the non Native American cases. What
we're talking about is is you've got somebody that comes
in and says, well, I don't agree with the divorce

(01:41:01):
or with the adoption, and so you file against and
you have to prove A or B either A they
have failed to maintain a substantial relationship in twelve of
the fourteen months from the date that you file the
petition for the adoption, which this would clearly fit according
to what they're telling us, or that they've failed to
pay child support in that same time frame. Now, obviously

(01:41:21):
you're not going to win on that because it's probably
coming out of his paycheck automatically, and that's how you're
getting the child support and it has been paid, as
you can still win on the A for failure to
maintain a relationship. Now, once you get past the A
walk stage, it just again that sends for a adoption
W without oh.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
Consent, okay, AWC.

Speaker 11 (01:41:42):
Once you get past the A walks section, the next
thing is the best interest is in't the child's best
interest for the adoption to be completed? And so then
the burden is on the person who objects and it
goes from there. But and it was different. You know,
you still can do a walks and things like that.
But now we've got the issue of have there been
you know, substantial efforts or active efforts to try and

(01:42:03):
reunite the Indian child with the Indian parent. And that's
a whole nother, whole other thing. So yeah, I mean adoptions.
You've got enough to do an adoption here. The question
is is is dad going Is biodad going to complain
or consent? I mean, that's the thing, and so you
have options to go either way.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
Yeah, And the first place to start is to have
a consultation Bensley Associates to work out some of those
questions that Jeff just pointed out that we need to
know the answer to last one here for Jeff, there's
a long one to bear with me. My mom and dadda.
My mom and dad bought a house in ninety eight
for seventy eight thousand dollars. They divorced and in the decree,
my mom was supposed to sign a quick claim deed

(01:42:46):
to give up rights, but dad never asked and mom
never signed. In twenty twenty, they had to refinance and
mom and dad are still on the mortgage and technically
the deed I moved into my dad's place, and he
moved out in twenty twenty two. I pay the mortgage
for him, and the bills are in my name. He
wants to give me the house, but we owe seventeen
thousand dollars and I can pay it off in the

(01:43:07):
next two years. What should happen to get the house
in my name? But the new value is two hundred
and twenty thousand, one hundred and fifty more than what
it was worth in nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 11 (01:43:19):
Well, I mean, you're gonna have to set up basically
a sale of sorts in the sense that you're gonna
have to Mom and Dad are now going to have
to sign a quick clean daed over to son. I mean,
which is easy enough, assuming that i'ming it. Sounds like
both parents are still alive. So they would just sign
a quick claim deed over to the Sun, and then

(01:43:41):
the son would put with the deed would then be
in the Sun's name. As far as the mortgage is concerned,
you know, he'll pay off that mortgage which is in
their name sounds like not his. That'll eliminate the mortgage
so there's nothing owed on it. And then you just
do quick claim deeds. It's not a heart. There's a
lot of pieces to it, but there's not a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
It's not a hard answer.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
But would he have to provide the value current value
of the home and the sale to his mom and dad?

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
That's between them.

Speaker 11 (01:44:09):
I mean, that's really between what and that's what I'm
saying is is that's really between them. I mean, if
they're it sounds like he moved in, took over the mortgage.

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
I mean, at that.

Speaker 11 (01:44:21):
Point, most people would assume. And again we know what
assumption is right so or what we what happens when
we assume.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
But it sounded as though they.

Speaker 11 (01:44:33):
Just wanted him to come in and take over the
mortgage and live there. As far as the values and
all that are concerned, that's going to be between them.
I mean, if if his dad wants to come in
and say, all right, you've paid fifty thousand on.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
This mortgage or whatever and it's worth this now, then
now you owe me this. I mean, that's all between them.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
But if mom never signed the quick claim, is she
still it's still her house too, even though the.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
Decrease is the look at the decree.

Speaker 11 (01:45:00):
I mean, the thing is is if it was supposed
to be deeded over to Dad and Mom never did it. Yeah,
you've got issues at that point, But it all depends
on again, who wants to raise a stink about it.
Maybe Mom and Dad agree somen can have it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
They don't care.

Speaker 11 (01:45:15):
Obviously Mom didn't care whenever she And that's the other
question is in the decree, does it say that Mom
gets a marital portion of the equity and if so,
did she get paid? If so, she's then disavowed her
interest in the house. In my opinion, I mean, I'd
have to go and look at casela and statute and
see what it says and see exactly how the courts
have dealt with something like this. But my off the cuff,

(01:45:37):
minimal information response is is that we need to look
at the decree. If Mom gave up her interest and
she received inequity share, she's done, even though she didn't
sign a quick claim deed. That's kind of my quick,
off the cuff answer. I'd have to go research that.
But the other part is is that are Mom and
Dad gonna make him pay anything above and beyond what
he's paid.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
I don't know what agreement did they have?

Speaker 11 (01:45:57):
More information need as Johnny five said need input.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
So you know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
Between this story or this text that we got the
one before and where to start, the answer is the same.
And that's got you got to have a conversation with
the folks a Hinsley Associates because they're all uniquely different
and Jeff can give some broad answers here, but you
may have a unique scenario that is different from your
friends or what the internet search results tell you. And
that's why you got to get that free consultation with

(01:46:25):
Jeff and the folks at Hinsley Associates. We've set that
up for free. Get a free consultation fifteen minutes when
you mentioned KMOD when you call nine eight three nine
eight five six nine two nine eight three nine eight
five six nine two for hinsleyan Associates which KMOD get
that free consultation over the phone. If you find yourself
in a situation where you need help outside of family law,
Jeff and the folks at Hinsley Associates can help you

(01:46:47):
in that.

Speaker 11 (01:46:47):
Area, absolutely so. Through our office in PAHUSCA. And the
name of that office is Shoemake Law Firm.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
It's our firm.

Speaker 11 (01:46:53):
We just left the name that's been there since nineteen
seventy four. All right, so give Sam Allison a call
up there. He can help you with anything up there
in addition to family law. So if you've got a
criminal issue, if you've got a dui car wreck, if
you've got any sort of contract issue oil and gas,
if you've got you know you're purchasing or selling land,
we can help you with that. I mean literally anything

(01:47:15):
in addition to family law, which he does up there
in those counties too, give him a call. We can
definitely help you out if you've got a will that
needs drafting, or a trust, or if you've got a
probate issue because someone has passed away and now there
are state's going through court. We can help you through
all those things. So please give them a call up there.
Give Sam Allison a call up there, And if you
can't reach them for some reason or forget the name
of the firm, give us a call on Tulsa here

(01:47:36):
at Hinsley and Associates and we can get you hooked
up with them up there. And I just want to
say one quick thing about real quick about internet searches.
You've got the issue now of internet searches using AI. So,
in other words, if you're on Google and you type
in something most of the time, now you see that
AI generates an answer first before it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
To all the websites like the old days.

Speaker 11 (01:47:58):
Right, You've got to be careful about that because at
AI is not necessarily pulling Oklahoma law. So it's not
that smart yet.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
Okay, accuracy is in question.

Speaker 11 (01:48:09):
Absolutely, so please don't don't take that at face value.
Please give us a call. This is what we do
every single day. We'd love to answer your questions.

Speaker 1 (01:48:17):
Nine eight five six ninety two for Hinsling Associates, Jeff,
have a great week, Hey you too, We'll be back.
The Big Man.

Speaker 9 (01:48:23):
Morning Show returns next.

Speaker 5 (01:48:25):
Elsa's Morning Show ninety KMOD.

Speaker 1 (01:48:28):
We've heard stories like this before, but this teacher a
special education teacher, because that makes it feel more sad. Yeah,
accidentally left a five thousand dollars tip at a ape shop.
Oh why, and unable to get it back months. Been

(01:48:48):
fighting to get it back and the teacher says she
struggles with shoulder pain and so she made a one
hundred and twenty nine dollars per purchase for some CBD
jail at a shop last year and wanted to leave
a token of her appreciation, so she thought she was

(01:49:09):
going to leave a five dollar tip, but she did not.
She says she went to enter tip push what she
thought was only two zeros, but it ended up being
three zeros, but there was no decimal point, but it
already hit submitted. She said she wanted to delete that,
and the clerk processed the charge and claimed that they

(01:49:31):
didn't know how to avoid it. Employee also said that
the tip never went through with the bank's name. It
said otherwise. The teacher said, who would ever leave a
five thousand dollar tip? And I don't even have that money.
Mother of two grown sons claimed she contacted her bank
twenty two times, including calling them five minutes after leaving

(01:49:57):
the store. She was left frustrated for months to the
point of tears, before the bank recently stepped in after
the TV station got involved, and the bank reportedly contacted
her and told her they would refund her money with interest.
And the bank said in a statement Friday that when

(01:50:19):
it became aware of the problem, it worked to resolve
the situation. Which are the twenty two times? Did you
start working on it right exactly? We are committed to
working with our customers to find solutions when the counter.
When they encounter issue, said the bank. A worker at
the vape shop, So they had changed ownership in January,

(01:50:40):
so they had no idea about it at all because
it was the previous owner.

Speaker 6 (01:50:45):
Sure, I'll give them that, you know, I mean, if
they are telling the truth and it was the new
owners and that was either way.

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:50:55):
You can avoid transactions pretty well instantly on anything, not.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
If you pay with a debit card. That is the
misconception about debit cards. O. People think they're like credit
cards where you can dispute. They do not have the
same rights like credit Some do, but overall debit cards
are not credit cards, but people treat them as if
you can try and dispute it, you are entitled to
do that.

Speaker 6 (01:51:18):
Right, always thinking like at the store itself, right, you
can avoid that transaction and then start all over again.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
Not so much like at the bank. I get what
you're saying.

Speaker 6 (01:51:28):
At the bank taking it up with them, you know,
might be a little bit more difficult.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
But like at the store.

Speaker 6 (01:51:33):
Though, you think, oh okay, well that's easy, let's just
avoid this one.

Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
We'll rebring in. It'll all work itself out. I would
think I would think that a store's POS system would
have the ability to avoid a transaction. Yeah, but why
are you leaving a tip at the vape shop? Now?
I don't go to a vape shop, so I don't
know anything about that.

Speaker 10 (01:51:54):
I never heard of.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
That they have tip jars everywhere nowadays. You know.

Speaker 6 (01:52:00):
I don't go to babe stores either, but my girlfriend doesn't.
I've been in there with them with her, you know,
And they do have a little tip.

Speaker 1 (01:52:06):
Jar there or well, a tip jar is a little
different than when you do your transaction. It says how
much do you want to add?

Speaker 7 (01:52:12):
Sure, maybe she saw that there was a tip jar
in there, and she was paying with her cards, so
she wanted to add a tip.

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
But that's not the way where the tip jar is
not relevant, right, it's adding tips, right.

Speaker 7 (01:52:23):
And maybe, like she said, I suffer from so much
pain or whatever, and maybe someone was helping her find
a right amount of drug whatever, and she felt like
they took their time with me, so I wanted to
tip them.

Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
Maybe this is a hot take. Just because you're asked
to tip doesn't mean you have to.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
You don't have to at all whatsoever. I think there
are certain industries where, yes, I think you do have
to tip. Honestly, you don't have to. Now, you shouldn't
have to pay for your transaction, get me right, No, no, no,
you do have to pay for the goods and services
that you're being you know, given, you do not have
to tip anybody at all whatsoever. And I am sick

(01:53:09):
and tired of that expectation of, oh, I'm working in
a certain an industry, you have to tip me bulls.

Speaker 6 (01:53:17):
I ain't gotta do nothing. I'm paying for the food
or the drink. You're getting a little extra because I'm
feeling generous. Then you did a good job, so here
you go. It's that expectation of tipping that pisses me off.
And I've gotten there's some places. There's some places especially
and let's just say arenas and stuff like that. I

(01:53:40):
don't tip anymore at all whatsoever. You're charging me fourteen
dollars for one single goddamn beer, and then you want
another three, four, five, six, ten dollars on top of that.
I don't think so, Charlie. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
I think that when you go to a restaurant, look
just using that as an example, there is an un
an assumption or understanding that the people that bring you
food are not making a traditional wage, a minimum wage,
and you it's expected that when you use those services
that you should then provide a tip on top of that.

(01:54:17):
But just because I'm at the airport and I buy
a water doesn't mean I'm tipping you. It just ain't happening, Charlie. Now,
if you go to an establishment where things are a
little bit more expensive, because I agree with fourteen dollars
is a lot, I'm also still you still provided a service,
like the bartender at the event center, even though the

(01:54:38):
drink is more expensive, you still tip bar people.

Speaker 6 (01:54:43):
I don't they're getting paid a standard wage. I don't
know that they're not getting paid like your bartenders or
waitresses that you go in your bars. Yeah, restaurants, you
know they're getting paid ten fifteen dollars an hour to
reach down, crack open a beer for me and say,
here you go. I just learned something here. Tipping became

(01:55:04):
more because I just googled when did tipping start in
the US? Right, Okay, I've always been against I'm an
anti tipper. You guys know that no we know you
you make it very clear you don't want to tip people.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
I do tip them. I'm not saying that I don't.
I said you don't want to, yeah, but I am
grudged about it all the time.

Speaker 6 (01:55:21):
Tipping became more prevalent in the US after the Civil War.
That's how long it's been around. I did not know that.
I thought it was you know, I thought it was
a recent thing, you know, nineteen fifties, forties at least,
not Civil War era. It says when restaurants and hotels
began hiring formerly enslaved black people but offered them no wages.

(01:55:42):
You know, this practice essentially relied on patrons gratuities for
their income, extending the practice into indentured servitude.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
In the aftermath of slavery. I did not know that.

Speaker 6 (01:55:55):
I thought it was, you know, forties and fifty sort
of thing. Not like, hey, we got these old slaves here.
They use former slaves, they used to be slaves.

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
We're still not paying them anything.

Speaker 6 (01:56:04):
You know, here's here's a nickel. I'm still not gonna
tip though. Weird, huh, they're still getting paid. I mean,
these guys weren't getting paid. I don't know, but here's
the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:56:18):
Right. You may be right that the person at the
event center is making a traditional wage, but you also
may be wrong. So I don't know if they are.
That's the problem, right, And to me, your argument of
they're just reaking reaching down and cracking open a beer,
the same thing at your local watering hole.

Speaker 6 (01:56:36):
They're just reaching. They ain't doing nothing special. Yeah, but
we know that they're not getting paid as much.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
I don't unless it's your place and you've had those conversations, Right,
you don't know. That's fair. Same with waiting tables, right, Like,
you don't know if those people are doing that. It
gets me.

Speaker 6 (01:56:51):
It's like they're expecting X amount of dollars. Right, I
should be able to determine what you're getting as a
tip based on your surtain, your attitude, the quality of
the food or product or whatever that it is. Don't
come at me expecting a bare minimum of them twenty percent,
thirty forty fifty per You've seen those before, they're like,

(01:57:12):
all right, here you go, and if you want to
add a tip, it's got it predetermined on there.

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
Fifteen twenty five thirty percent. Yeah, or you could do
other Yeah, when you start doing like thirty percent. Like
you added, I'm like, you're crazy. Somebody send an email
in and they said, so you guys are saying you
don't have to tip. What about automatic gratuity added for
bigger tables. Isn't that non negotiables? It is a non
negotiable because you sat down at the table and it's

(01:57:36):
usually printed on the menu or they tell you when
you book your table in the smallest little print on
the menu. Doesn't matter. You chose to sit down and
engage at that point. Um, the people that pour beer
at baseball games get paid normal but actual liquor. They
get like three dollars an hour. So if you go
to like the bar where they're serving spirits, that's weird.

(01:57:58):
But that's what I'm saying. That's where the fudging gets
in that you're like, ah, and I just come with
the attitude of if you're serving food to me or beverages,
I'm tipping you full stop.

Speaker 6 (01:58:09):
I think that we should just get away from all
of that, make everybody happy, and then just give these
people a normal living wage. Sure as opposed, we've tried
to do that. Politicians don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
Screw those guys. What the huddle. They know well nothing,
but we put them in power.

Speaker 6 (01:58:28):
We stand up against them, and we let them know
we're tired of being forced.

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
To tip people. This says when I was selling beer
at the Amphitheater, I got paid by the beer. I
had to purchase twenty eight beers at a time for
two dollars apiece and then sell them for four to
five apiece. Tips were extra. That sounds like a side hustle.
That's a little weird. I've never heard there. I mean,
that's the way they look at it is they're independent contractors. Okay,
my tip is at almost is almost five dollars max.
Unless she's hot e that sucks.

Speaker 6 (01:58:54):
That's weird because you think she's gonna get with you
because you tip more. Crispy Lincoln for you sit down
sit down restaurants, bars, and the dispensaries are the only
places I tip.

Speaker 1 (01:59:07):
Dispensaries.

Speaker 6 (01:59:07):
Really, I have seen those I don't tip at dispensaries,
to be honest with you, but I have seen them.

Speaker 1 (01:59:13):
Hate the tipping culture. Pay your employees more, don't rely
on your customers to pay your employees wages. That's just
my opinion. I don't agree with that. But why dispensaries.
That feels like a new category. You've chosen to participate
in tipping it, right, But they're providing something for you.
So are hairstylists right right, so's your barista if that's
your thing. So is the sonic person that We've had

(01:59:36):
this conversation many times about.

Speaker 6 (01:59:37):
Well, what about the person at the grocery store that's
scan in your groceries?

Speaker 10 (01:59:41):
And do you tip your barber?

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
Yeah? What about the lumber guy who helps you load
your lumber? Right?

Speaker 6 (01:59:46):
And now see now everybody's just expecting a tip. I'm
just yeah, here's the deal. We are entertaining people every
day for four hours a day. We tip us, well.

Speaker 1 (01:59:56):
Some of us want to give us the tip your weirdose,
mostly Lindsey creepers. We gotta take a break. We'll be
back Tosa's.

Speaker 5 (02:00:04):
Morning Show, The Big Bad Morning Show.

Speaker 9 (02:00:07):
The assault continues next ninety seven kmod