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This week, we feature segments from retired New York City
Police officer, former candidate for New York State Lieutenant Governor,
and most recently, a candidate for New York State's eighteenth
congressional district, Alison Esposito. Check it out. It's eye opening.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Jeff, I have to tell you something, having grown up
in New York City, who's many family members were members
of the New York City Police Department in New York
City Fire Department, I don't think I've ever had the
opportunity of speaking to a former Deputy inspector of the
New York City Police Department and congressional candidate, Alison Esposito. Alison,
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thank you so very much making the call to to
our studio today.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Oh, good morning, sir at all. Thank you so much
for having me at all.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Allison, I got to tell you. I'm a little nervous
talking to a former deputy inspector. I think my cousins
who were on New York City policemen. Are you going
to say, oh my gosh, you're talking to a former
deputy inspector here, so be so be gentle with me, Alison,
will you, Alison, I wanted to pleasure Thank you very much.
It's my pleasure as well. I really wanted to talk
to you about two things. I wanted to talk to
you about someone who obviously made the leap from from
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a terrific public service career as long as it's been
on your on your behalf of New York City, and
then you know you you made the decision to jump
on Leez Elden's uh campaign for governor and when you
were running with him uh so for lieutenant governor. Thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
What? What?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
What was the thought process that you had in terms
of why you wanted to be able to do that?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So I think it was a lack of a thought
process that it's been an exhausting couple of years, but no,
it's actually been an amazing couple of years. And I'm very,
very fortunate to have had this opportunity. You know it
was something I never saw it happening. I never saw
myself in this arena. I never saw myself in politics.
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I never aspired to be a politician. I'm a cop,
and it's what I loved doing and loved being. It's
who I am. It's a part of my DNA, if
you will. And I loved my cops more than anything
in the world. I spent twenty five years in the
New York City Police Department. I did everything from the
SWAT rescue team, to the gang unit, to detective squads,
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to the forensics collections units, to anything you could think
of weapons of mass destruction team. I did all of it,
and I loved every second serving the people of New
York City. But something happened. The city, the state, and
the country that we loved started to turn upside down.
And I saw really dangerous political rhetoric and false media
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narrative that was turning my officers into public enemy number one.
We were existing in a society where criminals were praised
as heroes and my officers were attacked as the villain.
I saw riots in New York City where instead of
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after legitimately I mean, I was in a firestorm where
incendiary devices were thrown at us by myself had a
kitchen cabinet thrown off a roof and hit me square
in the head. I was charged in retreat like brave
Heart and one. I saw some of the dust settle
with that. Instead of our elected officials investigating who was
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funding or participating in the riots, they were investigating my officers.
I saw a criminal justice system that began to apologize
for itself, with a revolving door of justice that was
allowing the work most violent repeat offenders in New York
to come out and re offend these innocent individuals in
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New York City and around the state and around the country.
And I honestly, after twenty five years a deputy inspector
commander of police precincts, I looked at the seat that
I was sitting in and the hat that I was wearing,
and I realized, oh my god, I am not able
to make this the change or effect the change that
New York's so desperately needed. I'm sitting in the wrong
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seat and I'm wearing the wrong hat. And I met
up with Congressman Velden, and I felt like I had
a real opportunity to affect change that not only my
officers needed, but all of the innocent New Yorkers needed
to become prosperous to be safe. And I had to
take this leap. So I took a really deep breadth
of jump.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
And Alison, I have to tell you something, you know,
thank you for sharing that, because I really think in
a lot of people's lives, including mine, you know, having
been raised by New York City police people, you know,
my whole family. Okay, there comes a point where you
say this far, no further, And I think that was
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really what happened to you in terms of being able
to make that. And by the way, that's a tough decision.
That is a tough decision to be able to put
yourself and open your life up to the kind of
scrutiny that that unfortunately, uh happens when when people choose
to run for elected office.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, it was the hardest decision I ever made. I
never wanted to leave my cops, right, you know, the
rumor was I was going to be the chiefest SWAT,
the first female chief of SWAT. That's that, you know,
these rumors come down and you kind of hang your
hat on that. I didn't want to leave if I
I left for them, I left to try to make
a difference. I left to help. I missed my job.
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I missed my cops more than my next breath of air.
I loved what I did right. And to your point,
the scrutiny, it's not just the scrutiny, sir, it's the
out and out blatant lives and falsehoods that they get
away with. And you know, I saw when I was running,
specifically when I was running for Congress, I was up
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against uh Uh, an opponent who had no integrity. He
lacked all integrity. He had activist writers writing no known falsehoods.
He put out known false statements, and and he kept
saying them over and over again, like the more he
would say and the more true they would become. And
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it was just it was a it was a I
guess it was a little bit of a surreal experience
because I come from a world where you know, there's there,
there are rules that you operate within, and integrity matters.
Uh So it was it was, It was. It was
intense scrutiny. As you write, you're right, but there were
a lot of falsehoods that he can put out as well,
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and it was something that I don't know that I anticipated,
but I still I don't work read it because I
think that we brought a lot of light, especially Lee's
Elvin and I. We we shed a lot of light
on what was going on in New York. We opened
a lot of people's eyes. We came very very close
in this deep blue state, which I would submit it's
not a deep blue state. It's a red state with
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blue dots and our reds really you know, stood up
and they started listening, and even the moderate Blues. I mean,
I said it all the time throughout both campaigns. This
was a campaign of common sense, right. This wasn't a
you know, red versus blue. This isn't going to be
a red wave. It was a red, white and bloom wave.
It was a common sense wave. It was independence, Democrats
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and Republicans alike standing up and waking up and saying
enough is enough.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Well, you know, I mean, and again it has to
be underscored. The Zelden Esposito ticket gained more votes than
any other Republican statewide in decades. So I mean, I
mean again, a lot of what you would a lot
of the reasons that you jumped in a lot of
the reasons, A lot of what you just indicated as
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why you jumped in actually bore fruit, because it really was.
When you say it was a campaign of common sense,
I think that resonated with people in the sixty two
counties in New York State.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I agree, I agree, And you know, it was an
amazing experience for me. You know, coming from law enforcement,
you know, I dealt with people from all walks of life,
from everywhere that you can imagine, especially in New York City.
They're coming from internationally, They're everywhere. But I had this
unique opportunity to travel sixty two counties in New York State,
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and you know what, sir, upstate, downstate, in the cities,
out of cities, rural, suburban, it didn't matter what gender
they were, what color they were, what God they prayed to.
Everyone was saying the same thing. Please help us. We
can't afford to live in New York anymore. Please help us.
My grand babies aren't going to be raised in New
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York because my kids can't afford to live here. Please
help us. I can't afford to harvest the crop that
we planted, Please help us. She's over regulating us and
over taxing us that I can't afford to live or
please help us, Allison. Alison's scared when my kids go
to the park, will my husband or wife go down
to New York City. We had to help us.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
We had a listener call the other day saying, and
I don't know. I'm seventy six years old. I don't know,
and I've been in New York on my entire life.
I don't necessarily know if I could stay here, he said,
I'm afraid. I'm afraid, and.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
It's so disheartening because, look, you know, when you want
to talk about criminal justice reform, you know you're speaking
to somebody who made it their life's work. If you
want to talk about criminal justice reform, I would agree, sir,
that we are always striving and should always be striving
to do better. And when you're talking about it has
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nothing to do with skin color. If you're talking about
let's say you and I get arrested and you're rich
and I'm poor, and we did the same low level
first time property crime offense, maybe shop there's no reason
that because I can't afford one hundred dollars bail, I
sit and brought in a shell until I see the judge.
I understand that. But what happened was they went way
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too far and they started releasing violent repeat offenders. Now,
if you want to talk about how the criminal got
there and how we can change that, and how we
can be better in the future when it comes to
education and entrepreneurialship and apprenticeship and anything like that, and
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what we should be doing in and around schools and
programs that are after schools. Sir, I will talk to
you all day long to make sure that every child,
no matter where they grow up, no matter what they
look like, no matter who they are, has access to
quality education and opportunities to make sure that their generation
and the generations after them are better than the ones before.
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I will talk to you all day, But once you
are talking about a violent repeat offender who's praying on
our people, I cannot talk to you anymore about criminal
justice reform. That individual must be dealt with and punished.
It's holding criminals accountable for their actions.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
It's not Rocket Side, absolutely, Alison. I'm going to ask,
if you don't mind, I'm going to ask you to
hold through a quick break with us, and when we
come back. I want to talk about your congressional campaign,
and I want to talk specifically about a vote that
Pat Ryan just made or didn't make me. He voted
against the Lake and Riley Act, and I want to
get your opinion on that, and I want to talk
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a little bit about that. We'll be right back with
Alison Esposito on Hudson Valley this morning with Ed Kowalscape.
We are rejoined by Alison Esposito. Alison, thank you very
much for holding through break. I'd like to talk a
little bit about, you know, after you you know, you
ran with with Congressman, former Congressman Lee Zelden for the
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UH for the for the gubernatorial positions in New York State,
you you want back in, you jump back into the
deep end, Allison, and you you you you you chose
to really try to take on Congressman Pat Ryan in
the eighteenth Congressional district. What was the thought process there?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So, going back to what we were talking about before,
with the ability that I had running with Congressman Zelden
to go up and down the state and really talk
to New Yorkers and find out what the issues were,
what the problems were, and how we could help, and
the fact that we were offering so much hope to
them and they were so they would legitimately have tears
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in their eyes and put their hands in mind and say, please,
you have to do something. So I made a commitment
to those New Yorkers. And even though Lee and I
came up just short, the commitment didn't change. So I
kind of had to figure out how to serve and
Lee and I won District eighteen by three points. And
it happens to me where I grew up and built
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my home where I live, and the congressmen who won
he won, you know, off of special election and in
New York's nineteen, and then he went for a full
term in New York's eighteen, and our congressional candidate came
up just short by like a point and a half.
Pat Ryan was just able to eat out of victory.
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And you know, you would think, you know, looking at
Pat Ryan, he talks this moderate game and he's a
West Point grad. So on the surface, even somebody who's
a Republican like myself can look at somebody like, oh,
he's a West Point grad. He's a soldier. You know,
he's got to have common sense. I you know, I
would even looking at him as a Democrat, I would
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probably say, hey, I'll you know, let me look into
this guy. It's probably not a party thing. It's probably
a common sense and it couldn't be fartherest from the
farther from the truth. Pat Ryan is a wolf in
shapes clothing. And when I realized that, I realized that,
I kind of I felt the need to jump in
to the New York congressional race in District eighteen. He
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is a West Point grad, right, but he is a
progressive left ideological individual. He's a Green New Deal guy.
He doesn't believe in border security, which is so baffling
to me as a West Point grad. You would think
our nation sovereignty and a secure southern border, secure northern
border would be a priority to him. But he has
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repeatedly voted against border security in the House. He voted
against the Secure Border Act. You know, he was the
Ulster County executive prior to becoming a congressman. He made
Ulster County a sanctuary county, refusing to cooperate with law
enforcement at ice. You know those riots that I talked
about a little while ago. He was while I was
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getting my butt kicked quite frankly in the riots along
with my officers trying to defend the city. He was
marching with the rioters. He's this is the kind of
guy that Pat Ryan is. And when I realized that,
I said, now, you know, we have to we have
to make every attempt and effort to make sure that
we put somebody in Congress and district a king that
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represents what the actual people who live there feel. Uh,
which is a moderate middle of the road uh, you know,
suburban area, bedroom community of New York City. A lot
of our people commute and work in the city, and
I wanted to to accurately represent the people of District eighteen.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Now, Alison, you mentioned something about the fact that in
your campaign against Congressman Pat Ryan, you know, I mean
you said that there were some smears, there were some
mistruths that were being spoken to Can you tell us
a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Sure? So pat Ryan repeatedly, and even after it was
corrected and I did op eds and uh, he repeatedly
put forth falsehoods on my positions on things like abortions. Uh.
You know, according to Pat Ryan, I was, you know,
no exceptions, women are going to die. Abortion at any
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point is unacceptable, life of the mother, rape, incest, nobody
can ever ever have an abortion. None of it was true.
All he had to campaign on was abortion. So he
screamed it from the rooftops and and people listened.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I remember knocking on a door to talk to somebody,
and a woman is standing there. She opens the door,
she looks at me and she goes, oh, my god,
you're a horrible person. And I looked at her and
I said, oh, you got the mailers, huh? And he
she said, yes, can we have a conversation. And we
had a conversation, and at the end of the conversation,
of course I won her vote. But that was what
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was being put forth he had. You know, he repeatedly
smeared my, my, my official capacity, my my, my work
as a law enforcement officer, and then even had the
audacity to say thank you for your service, you know,
like he's he had a reporter write falsehoods about me.
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Listen to this ready arresting, detaining handcut thing. An infant,
an instant, a baby, And it's not even with just
it's not even. It couldn't even, it couldn't be farther
from the truth, assaulting an infant, arresting an infant. What
it really was was a I think it was a
sixteen or seventeen year old young woman who decided that
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I shouldn't arrest her drug dealing, gangbanging boyfriend by punching
me in the face. So yes, sir, she was detained. Yes, sir,
she was arrested. But this is the kind of smear
campaign that he decided to put forth.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Did you ever challenge or did you ever speak to
him about it in terms of what why?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well? I challenged the media wise we had again, like
I said, beds were written, I did interviews about it.
But you know, at the end of the day, there
was a lot of money sunk into the campaign to
sure that that seat stayed, So you know, whatever he
was putting forth was on. You know, it was unfortunate
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because I even had friends calling, you know, who've known
me for forty years and they're like, do you hear
these radio ads? They're just blamed Lise and I, you know,
I and my curiosity was at one point I said
to my team, I was like, it's that allowed, and
they're like, yeah, it's allowed. So I mean it is
what it is. It just it speaks to his integrity
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and the integrity of the race, you know. But what's
more important is what he's doing in Congress now. And again,
just like the old pat Ryon who is the Ulster
County executive, he is once again, you know, voting against
the good will or the good what's best for our
American citizens. I mean, he just voted against again, he
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just voted against the Lake and Riley Act, right, which
would have required you know, ice to be notified when
we're detaining criminal aliens.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Well again, as everyone knows, and as you know more
than anybody, that legislation mandates the federal detention of immigrants
without legal status who are accused of theft and burgerly
among others things. And it was a priority of the
Republican administration o there for the Republicans rather after immigration
emerged as a big, big issue. And of course yesterday
we saw by Executive Water some of the things that
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Trump has done in terms of being able Alison to
declare the immigration issue a national disaster, if you will,
a national emergency, I should say.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You know, a national emergency.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
And how anybody and again I don't really care if
you're a D after your name and I after your name,
a Republican or after your name, how can anybody not
understand that this is indeed a significant problem, Allison. I
know five families in the Hudson Valley area who lost
loved ones to fentanyl. Five families.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and it's it's it's happening. We're
falling victim to crime. We're losing our young Americans to
fentanyl like the number.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
One killer, Allison, Allison, I don't min Can I ask
you to hold through just another quick break at seven
thirty and we'll take back. I want to talk about
really what maybe what possibly your future plans are. Can
you stick around?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Absolutely, we'll be right back with Alison Esposito. You're listening
to the Hudson Valley this morning. That Kowalsky uncle Mike is
in studio, so he'll be chiming in, I'm sure for
the next segment. Thanks thanks for listening, folks, stick around
call Mike and I are in studio. We are we
are pleased to continue our conversation with Alison Esposito. Alison,
thank you once again for sticking through break. Of course,
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of course you know, I wanted to just mention the
Lake and Riley Act. You know again, you know, it's
important to note that that bill, which by the way,
looks like it's going to be obviously with now the Senate,
you know, passing it, that's going to be the first
piece of legislative the first legislative bill the President Trump
is going to be signing. It's important to note, Allison,
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and I know that you know this, and you mentioned
this to me the other day. Forty eight Democrats voted
for it. Pat Ryan didn't. Forty forty forty.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Eight bipartisan common sense bill.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
And and that forty of the forty eight Democrats who
voted for it, it's eleven more than previously supported the
measure when it was considered last year. Pat Ryan voted
against it twice.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yes, he did look back. Like I said, pat Ryan
is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He's going to tell
his constituents one thing, and then his actions on the
floor of the House show a very different man, a
man who is not concerned with what's best for not
only the people of District eighteen, but the people of
the United States of America. This is who this man is.
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He is at his core a leftist, progressive individual. He
doesn't want middle of the road common sense. He talks
about bipartisan, but then when he has the opportunity to
be bipartisan, he doesn't. You know. He also screams from
the rooftop about that salt cap. You know, he says
Republicans don't want you know, it was a Trump error
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issued mandate or cap, and that Republicans are against, you know,
removing the salt cap. And then when he had the opportunity,
because it was an election year, when Marcus Molnaro and
Mike Lawler put forth a vote to expand or to
to you know, raise the salt cap for people who
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were married, he voted it down because he didn't want
to give the Republicans a win in an election year.
I mean, he doesn't have the best interest of his
people at heart or in mind. And you're right, it
was a bipartisan bill. And this shouldn't be a left
or right issue. This is an American issue. Were talking
about criminal illegal aliens that are coming here and praying
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on our Americans. You know, let's just talk about the
three hundred and forty plus thousand children that have been
trafficked into our country that we don't know where they are.
We don't know what kind of hell awaits them every
morning when they awake, whether it's sexual or slave labor.
We don't know where they are. The Biden administration has
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failed miserably, and Pat Bryant has been a rubber stamp
for right right.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
You know, And again, as I said, you know, you
know to you both off air as well as on air.
You know again, I know five families in the Hudson Valley,
two of which are in Ulster County, who lost loved
ones to fentanyl. And and Alison that that's the kind
of hurt when you talk to them, that is raw,
it's deep, and it's never going away.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah. I spoke to a lot of families like that
when I was going door to door and talking to
people about what matters most to them. And you're right.
First of all, you don't get over the loss of
a child. It's just it's not it's not something any
parent can get over. But when you're talking about, you know,
these unnecessary losses, you know, this is not like the
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child struggled with cancer. This is not like you know,
you know, a hereditary disease or or even a horrific accident.
This is this is like the child makes one and
it could. It doesn't have to be a child. I'm
just it's usually between the ages of eighteen and forty.
But this is an individual who makes a mistake once.
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It's one bad pill, it's one bad tab, it's one
bad it's not necessarily anything habitual. And this is flooding
across our southern border unchecked. You know, this is it's
time that we hold our adversaries accountable for what is
going on. And that's what President Trump is going to do,
and that's what I'm very hopeful that a Republican Senate,
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the Republican Congress will help him do. And I would
I would ask Congressman Ryan and his counterparts in the
Democrat Party to start to see what's best for America
and not an ideology that they are paying tribute to,
and do what's best for the people that elected you
and the people that you represent. Do what's best for America,
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and start being bipartisan. Start the middle of the road,
start talking to the other side, because if we are
only paddling this ship on one side, we're going to
go in circles. If we're going to get ahead as Americans,
we have to start working together, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
And it's interesting, Alison to that point. You know, Congressman
Ryan in his in his I guess his victory statement,
you know, when he when he when he defeated you.
You know, and I'm quoting here. I love our country,
I love our community. I love our country, and I
cannot wait to get back to work serving and delivering
for the huts for Hudson Valley families. And again, you know,
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and I'm not I'm not. And by the way, by
the way, and I'm going to extend the invitation again.
I've written the congressman, I've called the congressman. I've spoken
to representatives of the Congressman's office. I would love to
be able to have him come on into the wk
IP studios and just dialogue with us. I mean, and
it's I don't want to. I don't want to just
to explain sort of his thought processes. And I don't
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want to be just a one note radio host here.
But I don't understand how you reconcile I love our
country and then vote against the Lake and Riley Act.
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
No, I don't either. I don't either, and you know,
I would love for him to take you up on
that offer. I don't see it happening, but I would
say continue to extend the offer. Yeah, of course, because
the one thing I did say was if, if, and
when I do ever get elected to public office or
even as an officer in New York City, my job
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is to answer to the people. My job is to
make myself available for questions, and my job is to
have scrutiny on my actions and my officer's actions. Sometimes
that's part of what your job as a leader and
a representative of your people. So he has an obligation
to come and answer questions.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
And that's one of the things that as I told you,
that's one of the things that we're trying to be
able to do here on wk I p with this
Morning show to be able to hold people accountable, elected officials,
you know, particularly in terms of what's going on. I
can't let you go without sort of expanding on that
last point that you just made, is is uh, are
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politics still in your future? Are you looking at being
able to do something else in an.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Elect I don't know right now. I'm taking a moment
to breathe. Uh, it's been a rowin as you can imagine,
from the second that I walked into the police Commissioner's
office and said, uh, you know, I'm sorry, man, I'm
gonna have to lay down my shield. Uh, to now
has been like three solid years of politics and division
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and you know, campaigning and meeting people. And I don't know.
I guess I don't know what I want to do.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
When I grow up at the point neither do so
or even neither do.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I, and I'm okay with that. But you know what
I what I what I do know is I am
committed to the American public.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
If that if that looks like serving in an elected
capacity or potentially you know, joining the administration and working
on behalf of the President Trump where my expertise and
background and history could be utilized to his advantage. You know,
whether that's working with Tom Holman and the borders are
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in some of these sanctuary cities where again Pat Ryan
made Ulcer County a sanctuary county, and maybe you know,
making sure that we're stretching out and reaching out our
hands and making sure that we're working with people from
the other side of the Aisle to ensure that that
we are holding criminals accountable and keeping our New Yorkers
and our Americans safe. I would absolutely be willing to
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do that. But you know, right now, like I said,
I'm taking a breath.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Good for you, Good for a well deserved breath. And again,
you know, just the irony of what you just said
really needs to be re emphasized. Holding criminals accountable. Can
you imagine ever having to debate that point at any time?
I mean, I can't imagine having grown up, you know,
with New York City police officers and my family, I
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couldn't imagine debating that point. They would never be able
to imagine debating that point. And here we are debating
that point.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs, but I honestly
I'm hopeful. On November fifth, the president was given a mandate.
He won the electoral College, he won the popular vote,
he won the swing states. She failed to flip even
one county, even one. So the American people, I believe,
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woke up and they are pushing against this progressive, woke
ideology that is undermining our military, that is endangering our
women in women's sports and in their locker rooms. That
is allowing criminals to not be held accountable. That is
supporting woke in progressive DA's like Alvin Bragg in New
York City that refused to uphold their oath of office.
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I think the American people went, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait wait, wait,
this is what we signed up for. Yes, we're compassionate,
Yes we want to encourage lead lawful immigration, and we
want to make sure that we can help as many
people as possible and give them the American dream. But
we cannot allow gang members and individuals, you know, the
part of the cartels, to be trafficked and to prey
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on our American people. I was at that southern border.
I heard the screams at the rape tree and at
the border crossings. This is horrific what's going on. And
if we want to stand up and really protect those
who cannot protect themselves, which I believe that we have
a moral obligation to do, then we have to do
it by securing our border, holding the criminals accountable for
their actions, and actually crafted thoughtful immigration reform. And that
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we do in a bipartisan, you know way that respects
our laws and it has the utmost.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Compassion, Alison well said, and I can't thank you enough
for coming on our show. We're going to have you
back if you don't mind from time to time of
course around just to be able to give us your thoughts,
comments and opinions. And it's been a real honor to
speak to you, Deputy Inspector, it really has been.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Sorry, thank you, sir. I always enjoy it, and again
thank you for doing what you're doing, getting the message
out and you know, really extending to both sides of
the aisle and to making sure that you know that
elected officials are held accountable, but our people will port first.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Allison, thank you very very much. You bettioned.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Of course, that's a wonderful day. Thank you, sir.
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This week, we feature segments from retired New York City
Police officer, former candidate for New York State Lieutenant Governor,
and most recently, a candidate for New York State's eighteenth
congressional district, Alison Esposito. Check it out. It's eye opening.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Jeff, I have to tell you something, having grown up
in New York City, who's many family members were members
of the New York City Police Department in New York
City Fire Department, I don't think I've ever had the
opportunity of speaking to a former Deputy inspector of the
New York City Police Department and congressional candidate, Alison Esposito. Alison,
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thank you so very much making the call to to
our studio today.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Oh, good morning, sir at all. Thank you so much
for having me at all.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Allison, I got to tell you. I'm a little nervous
talking to a former deputy inspector. I think my cousins
who were on New York City policemen. Are you going
to say, oh my gosh, you're talking to a former
deputy inspector here, so be so be gentle with me, Alison,
will you, Alison, I wanted to pleasure Thank you very much.
It's my pleasure as well. I really wanted to talk
to you about two things. I wanted to talk to
you about someone who obviously made the leap from from
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a terrific public service career as long as it's been
on your on your behalf of New York City, and
then you know you you made the decision to jump
on Leez Elden's uh campaign for governor and when you
were running with him uh so for lieutenant governor. Thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
What? What?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
What was the thought process that you had in terms
of why you wanted to be able to do that?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So I think it was a lack of a thought
process that it's been an exhausting couple of years, but no,
it's actually been an amazing couple of years. And I'm very,
very fortunate to have had this opportunity. You know it
was something I never saw it happening. I never saw
myself in this arena. I never saw myself in politics.
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I never aspired to be a politician. I'm a cop,
and it's what I loved doing and loved being. It's
who I am. It's a part of my DNA, if
you will. And I loved my cops more than anything
in the world. I spent twenty five years in the
New York City Police Department. I did everything from the
SWAT rescue team, to the gang unit, to detective squads,
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to the forensics collections units, to anything you could think
of weapons of mass destruction team. I did all of it,
and I loved every second serving the people of New
York City. But something happened. The city, the state, and
the country that we loved started to turn upside down.
And I saw really dangerous political rhetoric and false media
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narrative that was turning my officers into public enemy number one.
We were existing in a society where criminals were praised
as heroes and my officers were attacked as the villain.
I saw riots in New York City where instead of
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after legitimately I mean, I was in a firestorm where
incendiary devices were thrown at us by myself had a
kitchen cabinet thrown off a roof and hit me square
in the head. I was charged in retreat like brave
Heart and one. I saw some of the dust settle
with that. Instead of our elected officials investigating who was
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funding or participating in the riots, they were investigating my officers.
I saw a criminal justice system that began to apologize
for itself, with a revolving door of justice that was
allowing the work most violent repeat offenders in New York
to come out and re offend these innocent individuals in
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New York City and around the state and around the country.
And I honestly, after twenty five years a deputy inspector
commander of police precincts, I looked at the seat that
I was sitting in and the hat that I was wearing,
and I realized, oh my god, I am not able
to make this the change or effect the change that
New York's so desperately needed. I'm sitting in the wrong
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seat and I'm wearing the wrong hat. And I met
up with Congressman Velden, and I felt like I had
a real opportunity to affect change that not only my
officers needed, but all of the innocent New Yorkers needed
to become prosperous to be safe. And I had to
take this leap. So I took a really deep breadth
of jump.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
And Alison, I have to tell you something, you know,
thank you for sharing that, because I really think in
a lot of people's lives, including mine, you know, having
been raised by New York City police people, you know,
my whole family. Okay, there comes a point where you
say this far, no further, And I think that was
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really what happened to you in terms of being able
to make that. And by the way, that's a tough decision.
That is a tough decision to be able to put
yourself and open your life up to the kind of
scrutiny that that unfortunately, uh happens when when people choose
to run for elected office.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, it was the hardest decision I ever made. I
never wanted to leave my cops, right, you know, the
rumor was I was going to be the chiefest SWAT,
the first female chief of SWAT. That's that, you know,
these rumors come down and you kind of hang your
hat on that. I didn't want to leave if I
I left for them, I left to try to make
a difference. I left to help. I missed my job.
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I missed my cops more than my next breath of air.
I loved what I did right. And to your point,
the scrutiny, it's not just the scrutiny, sir, it's the
out and out blatant lives and falsehoods that they get
away with. And you know, I saw when I was running,
specifically when I was running for Congress, I was up
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against uh Uh, an opponent who had no integrity. He
lacked all integrity. He had activist writers writing no known falsehoods.
He put out known false statements, and and he kept
saying them over and over again, like the more he
would say and the more true they would become. And
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it was just it was a it was a I
guess it was a little bit of a surreal experience
because I come from a world where you know, there's there,
there are rules that you operate within, and integrity matters.
Uh So it was it was, It was. It was
intense scrutiny. As you write, you're right, but there were
a lot of falsehoods that he can put out as well,
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and it was something that I don't know that I anticipated,
but I still I don't work read it because I
think that we brought a lot of light, especially Lee's
Elvin and I. We we shed a lot of light
on what was going on in New York. We opened
a lot of people's eyes. We came very very close
in this deep blue state, which I would submit it's
not a deep blue state. It's a red state with
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blue dots and our reds really you know, stood up
and they started listening, and even the moderate Blues. I mean,
I said it all the time throughout both campaigns. This
was a campaign of common sense, right. This wasn't a
you know, red versus blue. This isn't going to be
a red wave. It was a red, white and bloom wave.
It was a common sense wave. It was independence, Democrats
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and Republicans alike standing up and waking up and saying
enough is enough.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Well, you know, I mean, and again it has to
be underscored. The Zelden Esposito ticket gained more votes than
any other Republican statewide in decades. So I mean, I
mean again, a lot of what you would a lot
of the reasons that you jumped in a lot of
the reasons, A lot of what you just indicated as
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why you jumped in actually bore fruit, because it really was.
When you say it was a campaign of common sense,
I think that resonated with people in the sixty two
counties in New York State.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I agree, I agree, And you know, it was an
amazing experience for me. You know, coming from law enforcement,
you know, I dealt with people from all walks of life,
from everywhere that you can imagine, especially in New York City.
They're coming from internationally, They're everywhere. But I had this
unique opportunity to travel sixty two counties in New York State,
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and you know what, sir, upstate, downstate, in the cities,
out of cities, rural, suburban, it didn't matter what gender
they were, what color they were, what God they prayed to.
Everyone was saying the same thing. Please help us. We
can't afford to live in New York anymore. Please help us.
My grand babies aren't going to be raised in New
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York because my kids can't afford to live here. Please
help us. I can't afford to harvest the crop that
we planted, Please help us. She's over regulating us and
over taxing us that I can't afford to live or
please help us, Allison. Alison's scared when my kids go
to the park, will my husband or wife go down
to New York City. We had to help us.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
We had a listener call the other day saying, and
I don't know. I'm seventy six years old. I don't know,
and I've been in New York on my entire life.
I don't necessarily know if I could stay here, he said,
I'm afraid. I'm afraid, and.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
It's so disheartening because, look, you know, when you want
to talk about criminal justice reform, you know you're speaking
to somebody who made it their life's work. If you
want to talk about criminal justice reform, I would agree, sir,
that we are always striving and should always be striving
to do better. And when you're talking about it has
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nothing to do with skin color. If you're talking about
let's say you and I get arrested and you're rich
and I'm poor, and we did the same low level
first time property crime offense, maybe shop there's no reason
that because I can't afford one hundred dollars bail, I
sit and brought in a shell until I see the judge.
I understand that. But what happened was they went way
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too far and they started releasing violent repeat offenders. Now,
if you want to talk about how the criminal got
there and how we can change that, and how we
can be better in the future when it comes to
education and entrepreneurialship and apprenticeship and anything like that, and
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what we should be doing in and around schools and
programs that are after schools. Sir, I will talk to
you all day long to make sure that every child,
no matter where they grow up, no matter what they
look like, no matter who they are, has access to
quality education and opportunities to make sure that their generation
and the generations after them are better than the ones before.
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I will talk to you all day, But once you
are talking about a violent repeat offender who's praying on
our people, I cannot talk to you anymore about criminal
justice reform. That individual must be dealt with and punished.
It's holding criminals accountable for their actions.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
It's not Rocket Side, absolutely, Alison. I'm going to ask,
if you don't mind, I'm going to ask you to
hold through a quick break with us, and when we
come back. I want to talk about your congressional campaign,
and I want to talk specifically about a vote that
Pat Ryan just made or didn't make me. He voted
against the Lake and Riley Act, and I want to
get your opinion on that, and I want to talk
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a little bit about that. We'll be right back with
Alison Esposito on Hudson Valley this morning with Ed Kowalscape.
We are rejoined by Alison Esposito. Alison, thank you very
much for holding through break. I'd like to talk a
little bit about, you know, after you you know, you
ran with with Congressman, former Congressman Lee Zelden for the
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UH for the for the gubernatorial positions in New York State,
you you want back in, you jump back into the
deep end, Allison, and you you you you you chose
to really try to take on Congressman Pat Ryan in
the eighteenth Congressional district. What was the thought process there?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So, going back to what we were talking about before,
with the ability that I had running with Congressman Zelden
to go up and down the state and really talk
to New Yorkers and find out what the issues were,
what the problems were, and how we could help, and
the fact that we were offering so much hope to
them and they were so they would legitimately have tears
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in their eyes and put their hands in mind and say, please,
you have to do something. So I made a commitment
to those New Yorkers. And even though Lee and I
came up just short, the commitment didn't change. So I
kind of had to figure out how to serve and
Lee and I won District eighteen by three points. And
it happens to me where I grew up and built
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my home where I live, and the congressmen who won
he won, you know, off of special election and in
New York's nineteen, and then he went for a full
term in New York's eighteen, and our congressional candidate came
up just short by like a point and a half.
Pat Ryan was just able to eat out of victory.
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And you know, you would think, you know, looking at
Pat Ryan, he talks this moderate game and he's a
West Point grad. So on the surface, even somebody who's
a Republican like myself can look at somebody like, oh,
he's a West Point grad. He's a soldier. You know,
he's got to have common sense. I you know, I
would even looking at him as a Democrat, I would
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probably say, hey, I'll you know, let me look into
this guy. It's probably not a party thing. It's probably
a common sense and it couldn't be fartherest from the
farther from the truth. Pat Ryan is a wolf in
shapes clothing. And when I realized that, I realized that,
I kind of I felt the need to jump in
to the New York congressional race in District eighteen. He
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is a West Point grad, right, but he is a
progressive left ideological individual. He's a Green New Deal guy.
He doesn't believe in border security, which is so baffling
to me as a West Point grad. You would think
our nation sovereignty and a secure southern border, secure northern
border would be a priority to him. But he has
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repeatedly voted against border security in the House. He voted
against the Secure Border Act. You know, he was the
Ulster County executive prior to becoming a congressman. He made
Ulster County a sanctuary county, refusing to cooperate with law
enforcement at ice. You know those riots that I talked
about a little while ago. He was while I was
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getting my butt kicked quite frankly in the riots along
with my officers trying to defend the city. He was
marching with the rioters. He's this is the kind of
guy that Pat Ryan is. And when I realized that,
I said, now, you know, we have to we have
to make every attempt and effort to make sure that
we put somebody in Congress and district a king that
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represents what the actual people who live there feel. Uh,
which is a moderate middle of the road uh, you know,
suburban area, bedroom community of New York City. A lot
of our people commute and work in the city, and
I wanted to to accurately represent the people of District eighteen.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Now, Alison, you mentioned something about the fact that in
your campaign against Congressman Pat Ryan, you know, I mean
you said that there were some smears, there were some
mistruths that were being spoken to Can you tell us
a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Sure? So pat Ryan repeatedly, and even after it was
corrected and I did op eds and uh, he repeatedly
put forth falsehoods on my positions on things like abortions. Uh.
You know, according to Pat Ryan, I was, you know,
no exceptions, women are going to die. Abortion at any
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point is unacceptable, life of the mother, rape, incest, nobody
can ever ever have an abortion. None of it was true.
All he had to campaign on was abortion. So he
screamed it from the rooftops and and people listened.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I remember knocking on a door to talk to somebody,
and a woman is standing there. She opens the door,
she looks at me and she goes, oh, my god,
you're a horrible person. And I looked at her and
I said, oh, you got the mailers, huh? And he
she said, yes, can we have a conversation. And we
had a conversation, and at the end of the conversation,
of course I won her vote. But that was what
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was being put forth he had. You know, he repeatedly
smeared my, my, my official capacity, my my, my work
as a law enforcement officer, and then even had the
audacity to say thank you for your service, you know,
like he's he had a reporter write falsehoods about me.
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Listen to this ready arresting, detaining handcut thing. An infant,
an instant, a baby, And it's not even with just
it's not even. It couldn't even, it couldn't be farther
from the truth, assaulting an infant, arresting an infant. What
it really was was a I think it was a
sixteen or seventeen year old young woman who decided that
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I shouldn't arrest her drug dealing, gangbanging boyfriend by punching
me in the face. So yes, sir, she was detained. Yes, sir,
she was arrested. But this is the kind of smear
campaign that he decided to put forth.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Did you ever challenge or did you ever speak to
him about it in terms of what why?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well? I challenged the media wise we had again, like
I said, beds were written, I did interviews about it.
But you know, at the end of the day, there
was a lot of money sunk into the campaign to
sure that that seat stayed, So you know, whatever he
was putting forth was on. You know, it was unfortunate
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because I even had friends calling, you know, who've known
me for forty years and they're like, do you hear
these radio ads? They're just blamed Lise and I, you know,
I and my curiosity was at one point I said
to my team, I was like, it's that allowed, and
they're like, yeah, it's allowed. So I mean it is
what it is. It just it speaks to his integrity
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and the integrity of the race, you know. But what's
more important is what he's doing in Congress now. And again,
just like the old pat Ryon who is the Ulster
County executive, he is once again, you know, voting against
the good will or the good what's best for our
American citizens. I mean, he just voted against again, he
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just voted against the Lake and Riley Act, right, which
would have required you know, ice to be notified when
we're detaining criminal aliens.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Well again, as everyone knows, and as you know more
than anybody, that legislation mandates the federal detention of immigrants
without legal status who are accused of theft and burgerly
among others things. And it was a priority of the
Republican administration o there for the Republicans rather after immigration
emerged as a big, big issue. And of course yesterday
we saw by Executive Water some of the things that
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Trump has done in terms of being able Alison to
declare the immigration issue a national disaster, if you will,
a national emergency, I should say.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You know, a national emergency.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
And how anybody and again I don't really care if
you're a D after your name and I after your name,
a Republican or after your name, how can anybody not
understand that this is indeed a significant problem, Allison. I
know five families in the Hudson Valley area who lost
loved ones to fentanyl. Five families.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and it's it's it's happening. We're
falling victim to crime. We're losing our young Americans to
fentanyl like the number.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
One killer, Allison, Allison, I don't min Can I ask
you to hold through just another quick break at seven
thirty and we'll take back. I want to talk about
really what maybe what possibly your future plans are. Can
you stick around?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Absolutely, we'll be right back with Alison Esposito. You're listening
to the Hudson Valley this morning. That Kowalsky uncle Mike is
in studio, so he'll be chiming in, I'm sure for
the next segment. Thanks thanks for listening, folks, stick around
call Mike and I are in studio. We are we
are pleased to continue our conversation with Alison Esposito. Alison,
thank you once again for sticking through break. Of course,
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of course you know, I wanted to just mention the
Lake and Riley Act. You know again, you know, it's
important to note that that bill, which by the way,
looks like it's going to be obviously with now the Senate,
you know, passing it, that's going to be the first
piece of legislative the first legislative bill the President Trump
is going to be signing. It's important to note, Allison,
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and I know that you know this, and you mentioned
this to me the other day. Forty eight Democrats voted
for it. Pat Ryan didn't. Forty forty forty.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Eight bipartisan common sense bill.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
And and that forty of the forty eight Democrats who
voted for it, it's eleven more than previously supported the
measure when it was considered last year. Pat Ryan voted
against it twice.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yes, he did look back. Like I said, pat Ryan
is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He's going to tell
his constituents one thing, and then his actions on the
floor of the House show a very different man, a
man who is not concerned with what's best for not
only the people of District eighteen, but the people of
the United States of America. This is who this man is.
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He is at his core a leftist, progressive individual. He
doesn't want middle of the road common sense. He talks
about bipartisan, but then when he has the opportunity to
be bipartisan, he doesn't. You know. He also screams from
the rooftop about that salt cap. You know, he says
Republicans don't want you know, it was a Trump error
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issued mandate or cap, and that Republicans are against, you know,
removing the salt cap. And then when he had the opportunity,
because it was an election year, when Marcus Molnaro and
Mike Lawler put forth a vote to expand or to
to you know, raise the salt cap for people who
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were married, he voted it down because he didn't want
to give the Republicans a win in an election year.
I mean, he doesn't have the best interest of his
people at heart or in mind. And you're right, it
was a bipartisan bill. And this shouldn't be a left
or right issue. This is an American issue. Were talking
about criminal illegal aliens that are coming here and praying
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on our Americans. You know, let's just talk about the
three hundred and forty plus thousand children that have been
trafficked into our country that we don't know where they are.
We don't know what kind of hell awaits them every
morning when they awake, whether it's sexual or slave labor.
We don't know where they are. The Biden administration has
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failed miserably, and Pat Bryant has been a rubber stamp
for right right.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
You know, And again, as I said, you know, you
know to you both off air as well as on air.
You know again, I know five families in the Hudson Valley,
two of which are in Ulster County, who lost loved
ones to fentanyl. And and Alison that that's the kind
of hurt when you talk to them, that is raw,
it's deep, and it's never going away.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah. I spoke to a lot of families like that
when I was going door to door and talking to
people about what matters most to them. And you're right.
First of all, you don't get over the loss of
a child. It's just it's not it's not something any
parent can get over. But when you're talking about, you know,
these unnecessary losses, you know, this is not like the
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child struggled with cancer. This is not like you know,
you know, a hereditary disease or or even a horrific accident.
This is this is like the child makes one and
it could. It doesn't have to be a child. I'm
just it's usually between the ages of eighteen and forty.
But this is an individual who makes a mistake once.
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It's one bad pill, it's one bad tab, it's one
bad it's not necessarily anything habitual. And this is flooding
across our southern border unchecked. You know, this is it's
time that we hold our adversaries accountable for what is
going on. And that's what President Trump is going to do,
and that's what I'm very hopeful that a Republican Senate,
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the Republican Congress will help him do. And I would
I would ask Congressman Ryan and his counterparts in the
Democrat Party to start to see what's best for America
and not an ideology that they are paying tribute to,
and do what's best for the people that elected you
and the people that you represent. Do what's best for America,
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and start being bipartisan. Start the middle of the road,
start talking to the other side, because if we are
only paddling this ship on one side, we're going to
go in circles. If we're going to get ahead as Americans,
we have to start working together, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
And it's interesting, Alison to that point. You know, Congressman
Ryan in his in his I guess his victory statement,
you know, when he when he when he defeated you.
You know, and I'm quoting here. I love our country,
I love our community. I love our country, and I
cannot wait to get back to work serving and delivering
for the huts for Hudson Valley families. And again, you know,
(25:31):
and I'm not I'm not. And by the way, by
the way, and I'm going to extend the invitation again.
I've written the congressman, I've called the congressman. I've spoken
to representatives of the Congressman's office. I would love to
be able to have him come on into the wk
IP studios and just dialogue with us. I mean, and
it's I don't want to. I don't want to just
to explain sort of his thought processes. And I don't
(25:53):
want to be just a one note radio host here.
But I don't understand how you reconcile I love our
country and then vote against the Lake and Riley Act.
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
No, I don't either. I don't either, and you know,
I would love for him to take you up on
that offer. I don't see it happening, but I would
say continue to extend the offer. Yeah, of course, because
the one thing I did say was if, if, and
when I do ever get elected to public office or
even as an officer in New York City, my job
(26:24):
is to answer to the people. My job is to
make myself available for questions, and my job is to
have scrutiny on my actions and my officer's actions. Sometimes
that's part of what your job as a leader and
a representative of your people. So he has an obligation
to come and answer questions.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
And that's one of the things that as I told you,
that's one of the things that we're trying to be
able to do here on wk I p with this
Morning show to be able to hold people accountable, elected officials,
you know, particularly in terms of what's going on. I
can't let you go without sort of expanding on that
last point that you just made, is is uh, are
(27:07):
politics still in your future? Are you looking at being
able to do something else in an.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Elect I don't know right now. I'm taking a moment
to breathe. Uh, it's been a rowin as you can imagine,
from the second that I walked into the police Commissioner's
office and said, uh, you know, I'm sorry, man, I'm
gonna have to lay down my shield. Uh, to now
has been like three solid years of politics and division
(27:36):
and you know, campaigning and meeting people. And I don't know.
I guess I don't know what I want to do.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
When I grow up at the point neither do so
or even neither do.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I, and I'm okay with that. But you know what
I what I what I do know is I am
committed to the American public.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
If that if that looks like serving in an elected
capacity or potentially you know, joining the administration and working
on behalf of the President Trump where my expertise and
background and history could be utilized to his advantage. You know,
whether that's working with Tom Holman and the borders are
(28:12):
in some of these sanctuary cities where again Pat Ryan
made Ulcer County a sanctuary county, and maybe you know,
making sure that we're stretching out and reaching out our
hands and making sure that we're working with people from
the other side of the Aisle to ensure that that
we are holding criminals accountable and keeping our New Yorkers
and our Americans safe. I would absolutely be willing to
(28:34):
do that. But you know, right now, like I said,
I'm taking a breath.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Good for you, Good for a well deserved breath. And again,
you know, just the irony of what you just said
really needs to be re emphasized. Holding criminals accountable. Can
you imagine ever having to debate that point at any time?
I mean, I can't imagine having grown up, you know,
with New York City police officers and my family, I
(28:59):
couldn't imagine debating that point. They would never be able
to imagine debating that point. And here we are debating
that point.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs, but I honestly
I'm hopeful. On November fifth, the president was given a mandate.
He won the electoral College, he won the popular vote,
he won the swing states. She failed to flip even
one county, even one. So the American people, I believe,
(29:28):
woke up and they are pushing against this progressive, woke
ideology that is undermining our military, that is endangering our
women in women's sports and in their locker rooms. That
is allowing criminals to not be held accountable. That is
supporting woke in progressive DA's like Alvin Bragg in New
York City that refused to uphold their oath of office.
(29:51):
I think the American people went, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait wait, wait,
this is what we signed up for. Yes, we're compassionate,
Yes we want to encourage lead lawful immigration, and we
want to make sure that we can help as many
people as possible and give them the American dream. But
we cannot allow gang members and individuals, you know, the
part of the cartels, to be trafficked and to prey
(30:14):
on our American people. I was at that southern border.
I heard the screams at the rape tree and at
the border crossings. This is horrific what's going on. And
if we want to stand up and really protect those
who cannot protect themselves, which I believe that we have
a moral obligation to do, then we have to do
it by securing our border, holding the criminals accountable for
their actions, and actually crafted thoughtful immigration reform. And that
(30:37):
we do in a bipartisan, you know way that respects
our laws and it has the utmost.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Compassion, Alison well said, and I can't thank you enough
for coming on our show. We're going to have you
back if you don't mind from time to time of
course around just to be able to give us your thoughts,
comments and opinions. And it's been a real honor to
speak to you, Deputy Inspector, it really has been.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Sorry, thank you, sir. I always enjoy it, and again
thank you for doing what you're doing, getting the message
out and you know, really extending to both sides of
the aisle and to making sure that you know that
elected officials are held accountable, but our people will port first.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Allison, thank you very very much. You bettioned.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Of course, that's a wonderful day. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
We'd love it if you tuned in to Hudson Valley
This Morning with Ed Kowalski from six to nine am
Monday through Friday on fourteen fifty thirteen seventy AM or
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