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March 6, 2025 • 15 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning. This is Miami Valley View, a public affairs
program brought to you by iHeartMedia. Dayton I'm your host
Dave Alexander, and joining me this morning is Chris Howard. Chris,
good morning. How are you.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm great?

Speaker 3 (00:13):
How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Not bad? Thanks for joining me this morning. Appreciate you
getting up nice and early and you know, coming in
here and talking about what you're up to. So let's
first talk about a business that you have called Miami
Valley Health and Safety Solutions. So, first of all, explain
what that is.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Well, we are a local company. We specialize in health
and safety trainings, specifically CPR and first Aid.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Okay, and what made you? What made you start this?

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Well, my background is in fire and EMS. I was
a paramedic here locally. I was a firefighter as well,
but a paramedic here locally for nearly sixteen years when
I finally kind of it. Yeah, I started that in
two thousand one and I became a paramedic.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
How old were you?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I was twenty one.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I was like you cause you don't look like oh,
I mean it's a grizzled firefighter. You look young enough
like you could start back at the firefighters house.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
I think I got out of it early enough that
I didn't get that grizzled look.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
So you were twenty one, yes, and you started and
you started as an EMT.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, so I did start out as an EMT first,
because that's one of the requirements is that you have
to be an EMT and emergency medical technician. And then
after you're certified as an EMT, then you can take
the paramedic courses, which is about a year of additional training.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Okay, so what is what is EMT? How's that different?
What's EMT and paramedic. What's the difference.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
So EMTs would be considered basic life support personnel. So
they're going to manage airways, they're going to provide oxygenation
for people that need oxygen, shorter breath or heart attacks
at the kind of thing oxygen application. And also they're

(02:01):
gonna manage emergencies.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Like car crashes or falls.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Things like that.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
They're gonna put somebody on backboard to protect their spine.
So basically they don't do anything invasive. When you get
into the advanced side of e m s, which would
be advanced d mts and then paramedics, what we do
is we start IVS.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
We're doing more advanced.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Procedures like if you if you've ever heard somebody talk
about the on TV shows maybe where somebody has witnessed
a a choking incident or something, and then the surgeon
comes over and does the that.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Braculous yeah, the night whole.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
So we're actually trained to do that stuff too. Really, yeah,
so we we can get you were ready to do
it one time?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I did nod?

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yes, So was it terrifying?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
It's, Uh, it's one of those things when you're in
the moment you realize that it's necessary.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Right and and thank God for your training.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yeah, and so that's where the training does take over
and you go back to what you were taught. You know,
the first time you ever do it on somebody is
it's quite overwhelming.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
But we also know that.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
We're in a real emergency when you do that.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
So we're yeah, we're we're dealing with cardiac emergencies. We're
giving cardiac medications, cardiac drugs. We're we're doing things that
we can manage diabetics that are unconscious. We can tried
ivy dextros, which is going to bring them out of
that unconsciousness when their blood sugar is low. We deal
with seizures medically. There's there's a wide variety of things

(03:35):
that we deal with as paramedics. So e m T
s they although they do a lot, and they can
do some life saving measures with the EpiPen in an
emergency with anaphylaxis or that's a severe allergic reaction, so
they can manage that. They can give some airway medications
like albuterol so that the inhaler they can assist with

(03:57):
things like that, so they can do some very basic
medic cation administration.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
And how long were you an EMT?

Speaker 3 (04:02):
So I was.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
I was an EMT for about a year, so I
got certified, and then during my first year of being
an EMT, I was actually training to become a paramedic.
So I really wasn't one very long okay, But that
was because when I went through school to be an EMT,
one of the instructors that I had worked with had
told me that he wanted to see me move on

(04:24):
and he felt that I had good potential. So I
don't know whether he was being nice to me and
said that or whether whether he really really meant it
or not. So but nonetheless I think he really meant it.
I'm just kidding, but I'm grateful that I did it.
It was just such a rewarding career and being being
able to help in a different way than just sort of,

(04:45):
you know, the basic way, I guess, you know, just
being able to do some more invasive procedures to actually
do stuff that has some real impact.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
That's our other special guest in the studio this morning. Yeah, Grace,
which is awesome. I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Thanks for having so.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
So once a paramedic, always a paramedic, though, I bet.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, yeah, I think you don't really lose a lot
of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, And so from being a paramedic, you moved on
to a firefighter. So how does that work?

Speaker 4 (05:14):
So I was actually fire trained first. Okay, So I
was working on a volunteer department here actually in Ark County,
and so that's kind of how I got my feet wet.
And why why I fell in love with the fires
was because I had started out as a volunteer and
I thought, man, this is this is pretty awesome. We
to go do all this stuff that you know, the

(05:35):
vast majority of people will never experience, and just fell
in love.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
With it, and so the saying goes that if you.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Want to become a full time firefighter, you have to
become a paramedic. So that's where that journey sort of
began was because I did want to become full time eventually,
and so I wanted to get that education so that
I would be a better choice during those application pri Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
So it took a long time.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Back then, it was a lot more competitive back then
than it is now my understanding, I've been out of
the fire service now for just about eight years.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I got out.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
In twenty seventeen January of twenty seventeen, my last shift
and that was that was with the Springfield Fire Department.
That's why it was full time for five years. So
I did eventually get hired full time. It ended up
being a short career to burnout, I think is what.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
It can happen. Sure. I mean, that's a tough that's
a tough job.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
It is a tough job.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
And although there's many aspects of it that I love,
there are hard parts to do as well, and a.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Lot of that.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I tell people, I say, you carry a lot of
this job with you.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, it never goes away.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Sure, so it was a lot more competitive then there.
You know, sometimes you would have two or three spots
open up and you might have one hundred people tests.
Now there's been a change in public safety unfortunately, where
you know, two or three spots might open up and
you might get ten people to show up for that
same application process that twenty years ago you were hoping
just to be on the top third of the test.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
And maybe get an interview.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
So a lot different.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, So being a paramedic and experiencing what you have
over that course of sixteen years that you were doing
all that, were you witnessing like moments that you're like,
you know, if there was a bystander here, that new CPR, this,
this could have turned out differently.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Oh yeah, I believe.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
So.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
It's it's hard to say with one hundred percent certainty
which type or which which of those calls that we
would have shown up to and knowing for certain that
had something been done, that the outcome would have been different.
But I can say with certainty that so many scenes
that we walked into nothing was being done, that the

(07:57):
outcome was pretty certain. So yeah, I would say that
there were many many times where nothing was being done
and you wondered.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
What would what could have happened?

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, what would have happened?

Speaker 4 (08:10):
What could have happened if somebody had intervened, if they
had been trained or had responded.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
And is that kind of why you started your business? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
For one, I enjoy training. I've always sort of had
a passion for training. In fact, one of the part
time departments that I worked on prior to becoming a
full time firefighter paramedic, I was promoted to a captain
there and was in charge of the training.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
So it was something I sort of.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
So you're no stranger to it.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
In no, No, it was something that I sort of
took ahold of. In fact, I was a paramedic instructor
as well, So I used to teach for a local
college and would actually train EMS personnel and trained them
to be EMTs, trained them to be paramedics. And so
I also did that at one of the part time

(09:02):
departments that I worked for, I was training personnel. So
we would do we would hold training so that it
would either be EMS training night or we would do
fire trainings and we would go out into an abandoned
local school that we had access to and we would
do search and rescue drills and fire extinguishment drills and
stuff like that, extrication, you know, pulling people out of
the building. And so I was in charge of the

(09:24):
training for the department actually as well. So it's just
something I've always sort of had a passion for. And
the opportunity to do this business came from a friend
of mine who was a center director for a local
daycare and she said, we don't have anybody locally training
for CPR and first aid, and she said, we have
a real need for it. The state requires us to

(09:46):
have it. And so I sort of started down that
path of researching how to become a business, and then
I was already Her timing was great actually because I
was already learning to be a CPR instructor.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, so it's one thing.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
To do and it's another thing to teach it because
you kind of have to know the particular is a
little bit more versus just going out there and doing it,
going through the.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Motions, right, So the timing was good.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
I said, I'm actually going through the schooling right now
to do that, and so then I started looking down
the path of how to become a business and a
business owner, and so I went through the Small Business
Development Center in Clark County and they helped me form
the business portion of it. And then I started doing
some research and I found another local company, or I
shouldn't say local, but it is Columbus company that.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Was doing sort of the same thing.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
So I was able to see what what are they doing,
what are they providing?

Speaker 3 (10:40):
And I was sort of.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Able to model my business off of that.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
So now we've been in business for eighteen years, and yeah,
we do hundreds and hundreds of trainings. Well, we trained
hundreds and hundreds of people here. We do probably dozens
and dozens of trainings, right, Yes, So.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
How does somebody reach out? Let's say there's a school
or there's a business, so, you know, are somebody starting
something up and they've got a few employees and we
need to find out how do they reach out to you?

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, so there's a couple of different ways. They can
call me, they can text me, or they can email me. So, uh,
my number for text and for phone call is nine
three seven six zero five five two three two and
my email address is m v hss okay at w

(11:24):
O H dot r R dot com.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Okay, so there, and we'll make sure we put that
as part of the header for this thing as well.
But all right, so and you're in how long usually
does a does does that course take?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
For CPR?

Speaker 4 (11:36):
We we normally tell our clients to set aside around
three hours, so a lot of times it can be Yeah,
sometimes it can be a little bit faster. It depends
on how much interaction we have, how large the class is,
that kind of thing. So three hours is a pretty
standard class for CPR, and around four hours is about
standard for first aid. We can sometimes sort of especially

(11:59):
with first A, we can make it to where our
program is sort of specified to a group. Right, so
if maybe somebody said they we don't have this amount
of time to put into it, but can you cover
the highlights, you know, And so we try to do that.
So we can come into a place, maybe it's an
industrial type of setting or something like that. We try

(12:21):
to go over the pertinent stuff, burns falls, sure, of course,
we always like to talk about some of the staples
like heart attacks.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
And yeah, stuff that mostly it could happen in exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Yeah, We're we're trying to focus in that training and
those type of environments of stuff that you might actually
deal with.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Right, you're not dealing with car crashes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, or jellyfish things things like that. We can talk
about that, but.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I don't know that it's really relevant.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
There's not too many of them in the local lakes,
so we try to steer away from that.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
But I mean, this is a wonderful thing. You've been
doing this for eighteen years. You said, that's great. So
it's called Miami Valley Health and Safety Solutions. We'll have
Let me get that email address one more time.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
M VHSS at woh dot or r dot com.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Okay, there you go. So reach out. If you're like,
well we could use some training in our business or
wherever it might be, reach out to Chris and we'll
get that stuff. But I want up real quick because
we're run out of time. I wanted to mention your
other business. You also, you're busy, you also have a
real time I am.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
So, and somebody listening might think that doesn't make any sense,
Like how does a guy go from being a paramedic
and having a business where he teaches CPR. That makes sense,
but now he's also in real estate. Well so the
funny thing about that is what we talked about a
little bit ago. I got hit pretty hard with burnout
in twenty sixteen and hit me like a freight train.

(13:48):
And when you talk to public safety personnel, they'll tell
you it just kind of comes out of nowhere. Yeah,
And so it, you know, took me by surprise. I
had to actually recognize what it was. I'm like, what
is wrong with me? Why don't yeah, well, why don't
I feel the way that I used to feel about
this job?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Right?

Speaker 4 (14:03):
So, I had already been running Miami Valley Health and
Safety Solutions, and I loved running the business. I loved
being my own boss and being able to sort of
control my schedule as much as you can. And I
thought I would love just to run business full time.
And so that business wasn't yet ready to carry me

(14:24):
full time. So I started looking around and trying to
figure out what other business could I run that would
help me be independent, you know, monetarily. And so, ironically enough,
a former fire chief of mine had gotten into and
all ties together had gotten into real estate because he

(14:46):
had family members that were in real estate as well.
White and daughter that had been in real estate for
a long time. So he left public safety rather as
well and got into real estate full time because he's
sort of already had some people that could guide him
through that. Yeah, he said, why don't you come work
with me? And so that's how my real estim.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Oh, that's great. And now you guys are you're sponsoring
our big one hundred thousand dollars home giveaway. CONSCIO is
not giving away home, but it's like home improvements contest
we have here on iHeart Radio.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yes, seem to fit.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, I appreciate it. So you are a busy man.
We appreciate your sponsorship. And I really appreciate what you're
doing to help others and help others learn CPR and
first to aid and because I think if the more
people who know it, the more you know, you're likely
to save a life. And I appreciate it. One more
time before we get out for we're speaking with Chris Howard,

(15:39):
Miami Valley Health and Safety Solutions and Realty Company. Give
me that email address one more.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Time, MVSS at woh dot r R dot com.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Dude, I wish you all the success in the world.
To keep it up. You're doing great things around the
Miami Valley, thank you very much.
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