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October 30, 2024 17 mins
Tucker went from aguy posting songs to TikTok to a playlist staple and it feels like ti happened overnight.  He'll tell us how it wll worked out for him, who he was most shocked to learn was a fan of his & you'll never guess what he bought from the TikTok shop!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Uh, it's Wayne d in studio with a guy that
literally went from who to you. Probably don't have to
introduce yourself made places no more, Tucker webmos here, what's
up many?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Man? Thanks for having me, Glad to have you. I
got to ask because the TikTok social media thing, when
Randy Travis was grinding wasn't a thing, right, Uh, you
know Brooks and Dune grinding. Luke Combs began his grind
wasn't the thing. So what does it mean for you
to have that platform that you were gonna get here anyway? Right?

(00:32):
But it definitely helped.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I mean, and that's just the new that's the new age.
Everybody's on their phone, everybody's online. And actually, Luke Combs
he started on vond Did you know that? Yeah, well
that was like back in the day, good old Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, because six six seconds give me second, I.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Think it was seven seconds.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, that's we need to get back to that. And
now TikTok's like if you an hour long upload, I'm like,
watch the whole movie, which I knew. You know, you're
not wrong. I can appreciate the people that do like
the the TikTok lives from the movie theater. I'm like, oh, yes,
I'm get catch them out.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
The new Spider Man's out.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'm going on TikTok. But what what was that like
as you started to embrace that platform and was it
always a part of your plan or did it just happen?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I mean I was posting online, like on TikTok before
I moved to Nashville, just like covers and like random
stuff that I would ride and uh, but I had
like forty five thousand followers, Not that numbers matter by
any means, but like forty five thousand before I moved
to Nashville. But you know, it really started taking off
when you know, Winding and Whiskey and Wind Up Missing
you started you know, doing its thing on there. I

(01:45):
kind of just threw it up there.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I think Winding a Whiskey was hung over. One morning,
I was like, I just got this demo back listen
to this and it did what it did, And that
kind of just opened the door for a lot of
social media stuff for me.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Is it important for now? You're life fizzle a lot
busier and a lot different between touring, sleeping on a bus,
hopping in a van whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I literally got back from New York probably like ten
hours ago.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I'm so tired. Isn't it weird How you start your life.
Your parents they don't hop in a van with strangers.
Now that's how you get city this.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Now, what's encouraged Now I'm I'm the one like, hey,
hop in the van.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
How important now that your life is so much busier,
how important is it to continue to feed that beast
that is social media.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Extremely I mean, and everything's you know, super hot right
now and everything's cool what's going on, But like you
still got to feed the beast, like you said.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
And you still you know, you gotta do well.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
It made it work in the first place because you
don't want to fizzle out because today's day and age
is very right now I want it now, you know,
it's like short attention span type things. So you just
got to keep feeding the people stuff that they didn't
know they wanted. And that's all TikTok is, like oh
I didn't I didn't know I wanted that, or like.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
So, how often do you as somebody who I mean,
you're a bona fide country artists now, but as somebody
who started as TikTok would call you a creator. How
much time do you spend just scrolling in downtime? Not
as much as you'd think.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I mean recently, I've been like really tired, so I
kind of just like lay in bed and scroll and.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Tell your phone hits you in the face.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, pretty much, wake you know, But uh, not as
much as as uh other people have you try to
stay off of it as much as have.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
You seen the dad and his son the guys that
do the double chunk chocolate cookie? Those guys have you
seen them? Is it the Costco dad? Yeah? The Costco
I've seen that. I saw that the other day.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm like, what is this is going on?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
They made the song? Yeah, we don't and I know it.
I'm not. I don't know because it was collab. I'm
just saying collabs are hot and country get it. When
when it comes to putting out music, I was just
scrolling the other day and uh, Bailey Zimmerman was like,
TEA new music, new music, new music. Are you doing

(04:03):
the same as often as you can with like, Hey,
this song, it feels like there's somewhere As soon as
the song's done, it goes to TikTok before it goes
to the label, before it goes to the EP or
the album. Same. Yeah, It's it's pretty much like that.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
And lately I've been so damn busy that I just
I can't sit down, or I could, but like, I
don't want to do that in my downtime.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
That's just that's just me. You know.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
If I got two hours, I'm gonna I'm gonna take
a nap, you know. But it's it's been a lot
of like uh premeditated videos for the past like probably
two months, just because I've been so busy that it's like, Okay,
we're gonna throw some up today when throw yeah, and
that's what we do. But I need to get back
to like engaging with the fans again because I missed that.
That's that's how I started, you know, going live and

(04:46):
like cooking breakfast or whatever. Like I'd sit on the
sit on the staircase and just play a bunch of
songs and for an hour.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
But uh, that's why I started. So I want to
get back to that and like engaging with the fans.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Is it harder to do stuff like that when it
goes from crea eating music as a hobby to a living. Yeah, yeah,
I'd say so.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's just a lot.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
There's just no time.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I mean, we get twenty four hours in a day
and I'm working probably for the past at least like
six or seven months. I'm working probably fifteen to eighteen
hours a day every single day.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
You know, harder than you thought it was, or you
expected to grind like this.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I mean I expected a grind for sure, but it
is a little more than I thought. But like, I'm
not mad about it. I'm very thankful and you know,
we get to do stuff like this or you know,
or we've had two interviews this morning already, just hopping
around Nashville, and.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
It's fun. Man.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I love it. I love engaging with people, I love
meeting new people.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
I love.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Everything that this job has to offer. And I'm doing
something that I love. So I don't feel like i'm working.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
You know, it does beat inventorying potato chips at Costco.
Last thing TikTok wise I want to ask, is do
you what's the last thing you bought off the TikTok shop.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I bought one thing and I did it last week
on the bus. There was a there's a sweatshirt that
popped up. I just woken up. So I was scrolling
a little bit. I just woken up, and I saw
the sweatshirt come across my thing and it's on the back.
It's got like a duck with like a chain, a
gold chain on and uh like a pair of sunglasses

(06:25):
and a sideways hat and it says smoking quack. And
I walked out to the lobby. I'm pretty sure Autumn
was there. I walked out to the lobby. I was like,
guess what I just bought off the TikTok shop. I
hope they don't scam me because I've never used it,
but look at this sweatshirt.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I had to get it, dude, I bought. I bought.
Uh So Tay and I lived down in spring Hill
and so we passed Cool Springs Mall on the way
down there, and so they have like a throwback and
like a resale shoe shop. Yeah, and so I bought.
I got suckered on a pair of Jordan's on the
Okay talk shop and I'm like, dude, do I want
to like? This is gonna be like Chinese knock off whatever?

(07:01):
And I got him and they were legit. I to
see if they were so, and I got a deal
on them. So let's to soop is where it's at? Man, Okay,
all right, let's talk music now. You have you went
from getting your music out there, you got discovered. You've
told this story before, but give me, give me the
cliff notes of the steps between uploading an album to
sitting in an office signing a record label contract, and

(07:25):
how did that contact happen, how did you get how
did that bring you to where you are now?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah? Okay, so like three years ago I saw my
publishing deal. So for the last three years, I've been
writing every single day up until like eight months ago
when I dropped one of a Whiskey literally every single
day for three years straight, sometimes even twice a day.
And that was the grind then and then we got
to a point where it was like, oh, let's start
teasing some music. So we did that, and then whin
a Whiskey happened, and then right after that was whine

(07:50):
I'm Missing You, and then those were like blowing up,
and then the labels started hitting up, like hey, what's
going on. We're like, we're waiting, waiting. So we waited
a long time, probably like three or four months to
even take a meeting, and so then we were like, okay,
we need help. This is a lot, and so we

(08:11):
started taking meetings. So I was in New York, I
was in l A, I was here, I was a
couple of other places and just taking those meetings. And
then I met my family over at UMG Nashville, and
I loved them. In Mercury up in New York.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
You got a good squad, that's for sure. You got
a good squad absolutely when it comes to the music
creation process, Now, what's different Because you used to be
able to pick up and write a song every day?
Is it still like that if you feel like it?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
And honestly, I've been struggling a little bit being creative.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Good, I got ideas, that's right, give me a guitar.
But I'm kidding, my god, they're bankers though, anyway.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Go ahead, Sorry, Yeah, And it's just, uh, it's it's
been a struggle for me lately, just because I've been
so busy and like kind of checking boxes instead of
like having some time to be creative. But we're working
on that and we're kind of getting back into it.
And we did a little bit with this EP. I
rented out of Lake House, had a bunch of my

(09:18):
buddies up there for three or four days and just
wrote and you know, went on the boat and hung
out and cooked dinner and stuff like that. It was
really nice. And uh, that's what we did for the EP.
And then I think we got like three songs that
we wrote that during that session or those three days
that are going on the album that we're working on,
which is really cool, you know, but yeah, I can't

(09:42):
really find time to be creative, which sucks.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
It'll come, it'll come right because you're building the house
right now, and then you can tell.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
And that's the way I'm looking at it. Yeah, I'm
building the foundation and the songs of the.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
House when it comes to So the EP just came out,
what was it five days ago?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Friday?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah? Is it is the EP process frustrating because when
anybody gets into it's like I can't wait to make
an album, can't wait to make an album, gonna put
out an album, and then it's like, well, hang on,
here's an EP. Is it a little frustrating because you're like, no,
I want to focus on this bigger project.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
It was really frustrating. Not like really, but like it was.
It was frustrating because like, I have all these songs,
and I was so much so that I want to say, well,
we didn't have time to make an album, you know,
and so we're like, all right, let's settle for an EP,
pick eight songs, And I'm like, how am I supposed
to pick eight songs out of the five hundred and

(10:39):
seventy five that I have waiting, you know? But they
put it in perspectives like, hey, let's just drop the album,
all right, drop the EP, make it make sense for
the project coming out, and then give people songs to
sing on the road. Because I sold out a headline

(10:59):
tour that I'm on right now with three songs?

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Really is that wild to say?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's crazy, it's crazy to think about. But where's like
we need more music these people, these people are wanting music,
and you can't really headline with three songs. And we
did a couple of headline shows beforehand and it was like, oh,
this is tough, you know, playing for sixty to ninety
minutes with only three songs out.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
But when it comes, when it comes to the album,
and I won't ask for like full details because there's
an small army of people that will hop over the
count over there, and they look, I'm scared we'll both
get our asses kicked for people that are excited for
more right, because you said it's like because the EP's
out right and I'm sure people have digested it, and

(11:46):
it's like, well, now what so for the album is
that like a before the end of the year, early
next year.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
It'll be next year, Okay, it'll be next.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Year, early next year, mid next year, summer fall sring.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Early ish early ish next year, and that's all. I'll say.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
We have a date. We have a date, and we
can't share you No, we cannot March nineteenth. We're looking
forward to it. Thank you for confirming here first when
it goes, hey, i'll edit it out. Well you start laughing.
I was like, oh shit, that I just found something

(12:25):
else that wasn't could you imagine it? For once? Judging
by her, she went like this and you hit your face.
I was like, I swear to god, they didn't tell
me nothing. The cool thing about getting to talk to
an artist who is so fresh to the mainstream experiences
you're experiencing things on tour backstage through your email through

(12:47):
your cell phone that you still get to go. We'll
have to bleep this, but holy shit, like I just
met so and so or holy shit, I got a
DM from Eric Churt saying I'm badass or something. What
are some stories like that that you can share with us, dude?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Okay, So I was just on the Luke Priant tour
and or the farm tour. You know, that's just two weekends.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
But it was.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
It was such a good time and he was so
like just nice, like genuinely wanted to hang out with me.
I'm like, this is sick, all right. Cool, So we
just like every night after the shows, we'd go on
his bus and you know, listen to music and excuse
me only with bullshit and a little bit and uh
kind of just hang out and it was just like
dudes being bros, you know. It was. It was really

(13:32):
cool and like Jelly hits me up all the time,
checks in on me, like, hey, I remember a couple
of weeks ago he sent me a text. He goes, hey, man, uh,
because we hadn't talked in like probably a month, and he.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Goes, hey, man, just checking in.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I know that this ride is like a rocket ship
right now. I know how that can be. I know
how they can feel. If you need anything, just let
me know. How are you doing? And like we just
talked and you know, over text, and like we were
It was ironic because we were on the side of
the road. My bus was on fire, and I looked
at my phone. Jelly rolls up. He text me, Hey,

(14:09):
how you doing. Actually I'm not on fire, so I'm better.
I'm better than something, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I almost died.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
But but you know, and like Jason el Deane's another
dude that you know, I've texted in the past, and
he's just hey, if you need anything, just let me know.
Like that's so, that's so cool, you know, It's it's
cool to feel welcomed by the people that I look
up to, you know.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
John Party is another one.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I can I go down the list, but it's really cool.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Which one? Which one would be the biggest surprise that
maybe you bumped into when they knew you already are
hit you with a DM like, hey, I'm a fan, dude,
keep grinding, I think.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Jelly, yeah, yeah, And then he showed he shouted me
out on the patuh McAfee show, which was sick. He
goes you, guys, hear this this new kid Tucker what
More And like I'm watching I'm like, did you just
say my name?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Like wait what? Yeah? It was then the text, right,
You're like, yeah, I know, guys, I know.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
No one bothered me.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Jelly's texting me, know right, You're like, sorry, mom, He's
just a good dude. Good dude. Your song wind up
Missing You was doing phenomenal things at country radio. Is
that tough to like wrap your arms around, Like you
went from writing all these songs for whoever else to
like you have your song on the radio.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, I mean country radio is like one of the
biggest goals that I had on a really like really
early on because that's how I that's how I listened
to country back or like I was growing up, was
just on country radio, you know, you know, whether it's
in the truck or whatever. So I was like, that
would be so cool to have something that I'm singing

(15:53):
on a platform, my country radio, so anyone could just
like happen to come or if they already know it,
they're like, oh, we're just talking about this song, and
you know, I mean, it's it's just the cool the
coolest thing in the world.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Are you someone who can turn it up? Are you like, no,
change the station, like I don't want to hear myself?

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Then depends on depends on what's going on, Like if
we're if we're having a good time and everyone's like
vibing with it, and I'll be like, oh, yeah, turn
it up. But most of the time I was like, oh,
I got to sing this song in like three hours.
I don't want to hear right now.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Do you sing along to yourself?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Sometimes I'll catch your song, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
You're doing.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
So.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
The EP is out now, the album we can't wait
for twenty twenty five. The last thing I want to
ask is because social media is so instant, right, and
you've come a long way, and I see you know
the effort you're putting in, and I see the fans
I loving stuff that you're posting. But there's always criticism
as well. What criticism have you gotten that you've had

(17:00):
to be like, Hey, give me a minute. I'm still
learning what I'm doing here, That's really all it is, dude.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I'm just learning. I'm so green to everything. I'm not
going to sit here and pretend like, well, I know
it all.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Blah.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Blah blah. I've been here before because I haven't, you know,
And there's some uh critics out there for sure. I mean,
that's just life.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
How do you shake it off though, because it's tough,
especially if you're new to something.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I go play a show in front of fifteen thousand people,
you know, That's.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
How I shake it off. Enjoy your mom's base, you.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Know, And it doesn't really bother me that much. It's
just people being ignorant, and it'll happen with anything that
you're doing. You could be working on Walmart and so
be like, I want the chips over here, you know.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, it's life. Yeah, I got you, Tucker wet More
thanks to congratulations and continued success get Away from Mark nineteen. Yeah,
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