November 4, 2024 • 24 mins
She is teh definition of, "Girl on Fire,' right now. She's teh latest edition to The Voice on NBC, just put out a new album, SOLD OUT Madison Square Garden, announced a massive tour & that isn't it!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But my favorite thing is anytime an artist comes in,
we get like an info sheet, right, like, I try
and stay plugged in.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, that sounds weird.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I was gonna say, I try and stay plugged in
on your life anyway, but that was I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
That's not weird.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
No, but it is.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
No, it's not a little.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So if you sat down for an interview of someone
and be like, so I was all over your Instagram,
you wouldn't be like, no, I.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Assume when I post something that I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Out there valid, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
But it's funny because Tay is a big fan of
yours and uh, and we not that I'm not, but
Tay was.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Tay is well versed. So she's like, hey, she's been
up to this.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
She's been up to this, and I go, oh, plus
she's got her Wheel of Fortune appearance coming up.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
She goes, she does not, I go.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, she does, and she goes, does she really like, no,
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
She's like, you want I don't know about that?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
If I knew, well, but that's that's something that people
don't realize. How much of your schedule are you aware
of before it happens?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
All of it because I ask a lot of questions. Okay,
all right, but there's there's a lot going on. So
it surprised me if someone was like, all right, will
affortunate family?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Is that why you're early?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
They're like, hey, you got Wayne D and Tata that
You're like, oh god, can we just get it over with?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
No, I'm kidding, but isn't it good that I'm early?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Not late? That is true?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Listens, but I'll tell you I worked on like in
pop radio, country is earlier on time. Pop is like
be ready, but we're probably going to be forty five
minutes late.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, and it's fine.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's a different world, it is. How are things we
caught up? The last time we caught up?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
The single has just come out?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, you just put out the coffee We had the
coffee party.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
How so let me start with the single.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
When you put out an emotional song, it lets people
open up that maybe didn't know how to before. So
what has that reception been like? Because obviously you've met
fans Yeah since then?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Right, what what has that reception been like? And maybe
a story.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Or two that that has happened from from maybe a
DM or running into some it's.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Been really interesting not touring right now because I feel
like that's the quickest.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Way to get a pulse on how the song's connecting
with people. And I'm not doing a show until Madison
Square Garden in a couple months or next month.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Hey, by the way, by the way, don't say a
show at Madison Square Garden, I guess unless you're gonna
lead it with a sold out show at Madison.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Sold out to albums, I do my homework. I feel like.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
That's gonna be the first time that I play the
song for people. I mean in a full band, real capacity.
I've played it a couple of times acoustic, but you know,
anytime you put out new music, it's it's scary at first,
and then you just hope that people let it into
their lives and projected onto their their story however they
(02:46):
want to. And I feel like that song is slow
and steady, but it's doing that, and I can't wait
to play with Noah. I feel like that's really when
we get to present it like it's meant to be.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
So does that mean no, it's at the MSG show
right I.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Don't know yet.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I don't know that answer, but we are nominated for
CMA together.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
How does he which I'm getting off track, let me start.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Let me ask that.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
How did he react? Because this is familiar land for you.
You are a country artist, right, yeah, he this is
the first time he would be in that category.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So what was his reaction like to you for that?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So stoked? So stoked?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I mean, he loves country music and his album isn't
not country.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I mean I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
The songwriting is very storytelling, very much so in the
country space.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So he was really excited, and I mean he's excited
to go obviously, like he's not going to miss AMA's.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Come on, I want to go back to the Madison
Square Garden show because I felt excitement, but I also
felt anxiety as soon as you're like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
God, that's all the way. But what is that going
to be like?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Because it's been a minute since you've toured, which means
it's been a minute since the band's been together.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Pun intended absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
How emotional is that going to be knowing that your
life is in a new chapter, your career is in
a new chapter. People are already absorbing this music, So
what's it what's that going to be like to I mean,
this is almost a new step in this.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
New direction for Free.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I mean we're playing the record top to bottom four
days after it comes out, and it's all new production,
We're adding to the band.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
It's it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I just for me, when I first signed my record
deal like eleven years ago now, they were like, what's
your what's your dream, what's your goal? And nineteen year
old me, I was like, I want to come up
on a hydraulic lift in the middle of an arena.
And like for me growing up going to shows and
arenas and then when we move to Nashville go into
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Bridgetone all the time. For me, that was just that
was the moment of an artist that to me was like, Oh,
they've made it, like they're they're you know, That's That's
what I want to do. And historically there's not a
lot of women in country music that have made that
jump two arenas, and so I've always been really protective
of if I ever get to do that, I want
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to do it at a time where I can do
it right and and make everyone proud, you know. And
I just think on my fifth studio album, it's like
now or never, and so I just I'm really excited
to make the jump. I am so so the hydroug
lift is a part of the show as we have
a hydraulic lift.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Baby, I do want to I do want to ask,
because you have lived more, more vulnerably the last two
years than a lot of artists have in any format.
You have been super honest. You've been super open regardless
of how difficult that was for you. You learned from us
talking before. It's helped other people with how honest you've been,
(05:45):
knowing that this is a big step in where your
career is going next with a massive MSG show. Does
Kelsey Ballerini cry that night?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Oh my god, I can cry thinking about it right now,
if I let myself, I cry every day.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I think we all do.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
But you know what.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
The other the other headline arena show that I did
was in Knoxville last year, my hometown arena, and I
cried all morning, went on stage, did the dang thing,
walked off stage. Not only did I cry, I ran
to the bathroom and just puked.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I was literally I was so anxious.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I was like a little ball of nerves and I
was like, Kelsey, get on that stage and make your
hometown proud, and I did it, and as soon as
I was done, I was just like, like, I just crying,
throwing up. I was.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
It was a lot, So I assume I'll do the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You're like, mom followed me to the bathroom?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Please have you thrown up in an MSG bathroom?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But I don't know, Actually that might not be that
uncommon backstage. Yeah, for sure when you talk about the
MSG show, people can see obviously as we'll share this
on social media. The excitement, Right, What is it about
this new album coming, the new music that's out there
and more that's coming, that has you, I mean, more
(07:00):
confident than ever? Would I be right in saying that?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
I just a I'm really excited to move my narrative
from rolling up the Welcome Matt into where I've been
in my life the last year and a half, which
it's been amazing to be able.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
To just be able to give that EP so much life.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, but I am in a different place in my
life now and I feel like this album is finally
catching people up with that, and I just like it musically.
I think it's sick, I really do, and the songwriting
on it is a step up.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I'm really proud of that.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
The musicality is different, and I think it's going to
be for me as an artist and.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Evolution and just to step towards growth. I'm growing up.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I'm thirty one now, you know, and so it sounds
like that, and I'm really proud that I'm still evolving
from the girl that sings love Me like You mean.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It, which obviously is still important to you because it
got you where you're at put but life is life's.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
A little different.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Different.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, you just put out a song, and I want
to say the lyric video came out a couple of
days ago too, right, Yeah, two things.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
For the song.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Two things tell us the backstory on that and you
I'd imagine you get to pick These are called like
instant grat tracks or whatever, right, Yeah, so it's essentially
like it's a sampler album before the album. Yeah, why
tell us the backstory on the song and why you
decided that this deserved to kind of be part of that.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well before this record.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
The songs that you put out before an album are
like the ones that you're like, Man, I hope this
goes viral on TikTok, you know, like and I fully
played that game, and I'm not this time.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I think for me.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
We put out Sorry Mom, we put out Cowboys Cry
to You, obviously, and then two things, and then there's
one more before the album comes out.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
And they're not the bops.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
They're not the ones that we're gonna like scream sing together,
but they are like the cornerstone storytelling of the record,
which I wanted to show people before the whole thing
comes out. Two things years ago in therapy, like five
years ago in therapy, A long time ago in therapy,
my therapist was like, I need answers, Like I'm a
very I'm like, help me understand the situation. How do
(09:12):
I get here? I just need an explanation for everything.
And she's like, hey, sometimes two things can be true.
You can be happy and sad at the same time,
Like there's duality to life. You have to give space
to more than one thing. And that phrase has just
helped me a lot, just help sort things and compartmentalize
when I need to and all that. And so the
(09:33):
song is about this moment in a newer relationship where
you kind of are evaluating the patterns that you're bringing
into it. And so yeah, and you have to decide
whether you're gonna go from fighting with to fighting for
or you're not. And it was a very important song
(09:55):
for me to write and certainly a very important.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Lesson for me to learn.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And you have been open before in like, you know,
learn this in therapy, this and therapy.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Last time we talked, how.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Important is it for you to also live out loud, like, yeah,
see a therapist.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Oh for sure, therapist. I hope it's a luxury.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I understand that fully, but I think if you can,
you should because there's, like you know, there's trauma with
a big ta, the obvious traumas, but then there's lots
of traumas with the little tea and we all have
them and they impact us in the way that we
exist with ourselves and certainly in our relationships. And I
just I am very interested in becoming like the best
version of myself that I can. And I'm fully imperfect
(10:36):
in a million, trillion kamillion ways, but I'm interested in
the growth of me as a human and that's helped
me a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That Funny enough, we've had a lot of conversations.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I feel like mental health and country music is it's
it's bubbling to the top because we've had conversations like
that with Keith Urban. Recently, Park and McCollum is talking
about a weekend mental health to treatment, and even Tay's
doing this life code thing where she's or she's going
to school to like be a life coach.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, I ain't a life coach. My life coach help.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Me and I'll be the manager.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
But I want to I want to commend you for
that because even as a guy, it's so tough to
get to the therapy conversation because even for obviously for men,
but for women too, there's almost like, oh I saw
a therapist and the first reaction you're going to think is,
of course you did crazy, But it's I think it's
so important to like normalize it.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So I wanted to commend you for that.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Tell us a little bit about the album, and obviously
you just dropped patterns, right, so that's obviously there's a
little bit of life to that.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, the whole thing is I mean, it's like my
other records, it's the last year and a half of
my life highlighted and bookmarked, and it's a lot of
I think this thing happens when you turn thirty maybe
it's like the turn of every decade, but where you're like, okay,
it's not life here I am.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
How did I get here? What's my own doing? How
did I contribute? Okay? Right, all right? That was not
my best work.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Okay, So if I don't want to have this exact
thought in ten years, what do I need to change?
And then in my like most interpersonal relationships, what do
I need to challenge? And it takes you through that whole,
that whole journey, and some of it is very introspective
and a little heady, and some of it's like a
(12:29):
bop and we're just vibing.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And I'm very proud of it.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Knowing how honest and raw your music has been as
of late, was it important for you to get the
bops out there again?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Well, listen, I.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Love a bop for sure.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I love a bob and I love a live show,
and so you need some uptim posts for the live show.
But my favorite songs on this record are not the bops.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I don't think really.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Now, oh but I think I just like my little
songwriter hard I'm like, give me the ballad, you know,
give me the give me the thing that's gonna make
me cry, so.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
When obviously we've heard Cowboys cry too, an emotional song.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Uh, your tech.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It feels like you're telling a story, but not necessarily
your story, because it's you're saying, hey, it's all good,
like cry. What story out of out of this album
would you say was the toughest to pull out of you?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Regardless of how involved.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You were with the right or the original idea, what
was the toughest, Because I mean, at some point, every
song or every artist has a song where they're like,
I cried, but it's done.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Here you go.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
There's a song called Beg for Your Love that I
think is probably the most raw, and even on the record.
It was the morning that we wrote it and it's
the demo and we have one microphone. I ripped off
my long fake nails to play guitar that morning, and
you hear the fire where any tennessee you hear the
fire in the background, and I'm just like picking away
(14:02):
at a guitar.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
And that's what ended up on the record. It's like
very very.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It's very imperfect, and it's very raw, and the song
itself is as well. And I think it's a really
important message for for women, specifically, especially in a situation
coming off of like a big breakup that I'm proud
to tell, but it was it was definitely hard to write.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's all I got.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I can feel it, though. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
When you think about getting on stage, you're obviously the
MSG show. What are what are other shows and other
things you're looking forward to once the album comes out?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Tour? I need tour.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I'm like, I feel like this year has been amazing
because I've had I've had time to write the record
and live life and and do the voice and do
all these other things.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
But I miss singing like I'm a singer, you know,
And so I'm really excited to just get back.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
On the road and really remember that feeling of not
only writing the music, but like sharing it and feeling
that connection with people. And that's why we make records,
is to share them with people and have that moment
of connection.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
So I've really missed that. I'm really excited for that.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
How do you as.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
If somebody's just listening to you talk about the music
for the first time right now? I mean, you can
tell how passionate you are about the songwriting and about again,
you're a singer.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, I'm a singer.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
How hard is that? We'll clip that?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
How hard is that? As you could last time we
caught up. I mean, you're getting asked to be in endorsements. Here,
the voice of this, the face of this again, the
coffee that, all this stuff, right, how do you make
sure that the music stays top priority for you? Because
I'd imagine with all the asks, whether you get your
team gets that could get lost real quick.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I think for me, I I'm not one of the
artists that is like, Okay, just show up here and
you're here to do this.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I'm very much so. I I'm what's the word, a
control freak. That's the I'm a control freak.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yes, something more kind to say about myself, but I'm
a control freak. And so I think for me, at
the end of the day that everything else is coming
because of the music, right, whether it's the cover girl
panteen or the voice or whatever, it's because of the art.
And so I will always protect that and prioritize that
(16:42):
the most.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But it's also fun to play.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
It's fun to be able to try acting for the
first time and just see if that feels creatively fulfilling,
or you know, be on the voice and try coaching
for the first time and see if that feels creatively fulfilling.
Because at the end of the day, it's all gonna
it's all gonna help each other. So I think, as
long as there's space for all of it, I'm happy.
But the second that I feel like I don't have
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time to write or live a life to write about,
then I'll wave a flag.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So the Voice you're gonna be on starting in twenty
twenty five?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Is this and I don't remember reading? Is this a
temporary deal or is it like you're.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Locked in for a while right now?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I'm just doing this this season twenty seven and it's
so fun. I mean, we're by time this airs, I
think I'll be I'll only have two people left on
my team and then we don't go live until I
think February, So it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
How is it so you're in taping right now?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Then?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, how is it gone?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's amazing?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And I know you can't say a lot, but what's
been the biggest not the talent, but just from your seat,
what's been the biggest surprise that you're like I was
not expecting this.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Well. I was really intimidated being in a chair next
to Adam Levine and John Legend and Michael Boublay. Like
I've seen all of them in concert. I'm fans of them.
I grew up more or less on them, and so
to be in the same position, you know, and fight
for these artists against them was terrifying. And I didn't
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know them, you know, Like I was like, oh my god,
are they going to be like rock stars? Are they
going to be like who are you? Like, I didn't know,
and they're just I can't say enough about Like we're
on this group chat, it's our little voice group chat,
and it's like I'll send a picture of the dogs,
and they'll send a picture of their kids, and then
they'll be like, Hey, I'm going to stop by the
bakery and grab some cinnamon rolls for today, anyone want anything?
(18:34):
Like It's just so pure and sweet, and I feel
like I got some brothers out of it. So it's
I think that will translate.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
As soon as she said group chat and want me
to pick up anything, it made me think of a
lix er.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Have you had a lex or coffee down the street?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
No.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
So it's at fifth and Broadway, and it's I mean
it's super like modern, like like almost like yeah, bougie
c but there's a there's a strawberry oat milk latte
and the strawberry oat milk macha and I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
It's and it's I want.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
To say, it's if you walk either way, you walk
into fifth and broad whether it's from Broadway or from
fifth it's in the first floor in the corner, and
it's Okay, dope, it's good.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Strawberry oat milk is all you had to say to me. Yeah,
that sounds really good.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, it's fantastic. Sorry, that's a d D.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You got the best.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
She's like texting for an order. I'm like, that reminds
me of when I park. I'm like, you want me to.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Go grab coffee?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You like, like I said, you seem more confident and
not And I don't mean that you weren't confident before.
You're you're just so comfortable and where you're at and
you're so exciting where you're at.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
What would you say is.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
The biggest difference now versus a handful of years ago
in your preparation in your writing in your recording, I
would say.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
The handful of yours.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I would say, every single bit of the last few
years is the difference. I think that I just I
think that I I I've learned a lot about myself
and and what I need and what I can give
in my career, in my.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Relationships, all of it.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I also think that I put less stock in what
is success and I put more stock in like, am
I happy? And that has turned out to be successful.
So I'm going to keep down that side.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Stop life coaching over there.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
My god, she was like, she was like this period.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I mean, I still listen.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I still have a little complex if I like read
a bad comment. I'm a human, but I've I'm not
on Reddit anymore, so that's good.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You know, come along, So I host. Do you ever
make it to Pred's games?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I went to the Stanley Cup one time and that
was so much fun.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
And that's all we got to get you better.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So I host all the games. So like I'm in
the crowd, giving away prizes and stuff like that. And
and it's funny because every now and again someone will
go to reddick. Everybody has haters. But there was a
couple of people ripping into me about Pred's games, and.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So it didn't bother me. But she looked and she's like,
I'm about to beat some.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Mass I know.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I know.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
It was a couple of years ago. I was like, refresh, refresh,
but I don't do that and I don't have Twitter anymore.
You know, you just you find the things that serve
you and then you just cut out the rest of
the down.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Uh So when when fans wrapped their arms around this album,
what is what's one thing you hope they take away
from it? Because you just put out a bunch of
music that was super therapeutic and it was music for everybody,
but really talked to to I don't want to say
a small but like, sure's you cast a smaller net
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than normaleah specific Obviously this project, from what we've heard
so far, the nets wider and yeah there's more, there's
more to feed on.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, So what do you hope they take away from
this album?
Speaker 4 (22:04):
If you would have asked me this question for any
other record, I would say, I hope they feel empowered
or I hope they feel seen. I want people to
feel whatever they want to feel like. It's just not
my job to tell people what to feel, you know,
And I think.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
For me, my biggest goal is that I made sure
to keep the.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Like the songwriting, integrity and the honesty that I found
and welcome at for this album. Yeah, so it is
very much so about my life. My hope is that
I gave as much information as I wanted to, no more,
no less, And so I hope that people don't dig
too much into my story, but they can project their
own life onto it and feel whatever they want to
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in theirs.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I think that's the.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Goal that And that was going to be my last question,
but you made me think of something else. The world
is so loud right now, whether it's negativity on social media,
it's political this, it's that. How important is it for
you to just be a healthy distraction right.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Now from that?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I mean that's what music is. It's escapism.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Or or it's the thing that makes you feel like
you're sitting on the couch with someone who knows you
better than anyone.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Right, It's it's either way. That's what I love about shows.
It's like it can be either.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
You can step into a world for an hour and
a half and literally forget everything else going on. Or
you can step into a world and be like I
heard that preach, same girl, and you know it either way,
And I mean that's what I love going.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
To shows for.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
So yeah, I mean I hope, I hope that if
people just want to like put their windows down and disassociate,
I got you. But also if you want to get
in your feels and pop a bottle of wine.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I can't wait to go to your next show and
go same girl, Same Girl. I'm gonna get as close
as I can in the whole show. Just go same girl, Okay,
same You'll be like I heard you the first time?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Can I sing to everybody else? Show you mind up.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I've always wanted to play the venue across the street.
So if I get to same Girl, wait.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
This one or this one because we got are you talking?
Oh you're talking this one over here over there. Yeah, listen,
we know some people. Okay, they're the janitors and I
don't know what that's Listen, you're.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
The press game guy.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
That's that's true. I'll walk in. I'll be like, I'll
be like, listen to me.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Uh, congrats on the album, Congrats on kicking ass and
the joy that you have career wise, on your face
right now is contagious.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
They're very happy for you for that.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Oh,
But my favorite thing is anytime an artist comes in,
we get like an info sheet, right, like, I try
and stay plugged in.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, that sounds weird.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I was gonna say, I try and stay plugged in
on your life anyway, but that was I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
That's not weird.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
No, but it is.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
No, it's not a little.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So if you sat down for an interview of someone
and be like, so I was all over your Instagram,
you wouldn't be like, no, I.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Assume when I post something that I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Out there valid, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
But it's funny because Tay is a big fan of
yours and uh, and we not that I'm not, but
Tay was.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Tay is well versed. So she's like, hey, she's been
up to this.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
She's been up to this, and I go, oh, plus
she's got her Wheel of Fortune appearance coming up.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
She goes, she does not, I go.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, she does, and she goes, does she really like, no,
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
She's like, you want I don't know about that?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
If I knew, well, but that's that's something that people
don't realize. How much of your schedule are you aware
of before it happens?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
All of it because I ask a lot of questions. Okay,
all right, but there's there's a lot going on. So
it surprised me if someone was like, all right, will
affortunate family?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Is that why you're early?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
They're like, hey, you got Wayne D and Tata that
You're like, oh god, can we just get it over with?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
No, I'm kidding, but isn't it good that I'm early?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Not late? That is true?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Listens, but I'll tell you I worked on like in
pop radio, country is earlier on time. Pop is like
be ready, but we're probably going to be forty five
minutes late.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, and it's fine.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's a different world, it is. How are things we
caught up? The last time we caught up?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
The single has just come out?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, you just put out the coffee We had the
coffee party.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
How so let me start with the single.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
When you put out an emotional song, it lets people
open up that maybe didn't know how to before. So
what has that reception been like? Because obviously you've met
fans Yeah since then?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Right, what what has that reception been like? And maybe
a story.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Or two that that has happened from from maybe a
DM or running into some it's.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Been really interesting not touring right now because I feel
like that's the quickest.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Way to get a pulse on how the song's connecting
with people. And I'm not doing a show until Madison
Square Garden in a couple months or next month.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Hey, by the way, by the way, don't say a
show at Madison Square Garden, I guess unless you're gonna
lead it with a sold out show at Madison.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Sold out to albums, I do my homework. I feel like.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
That's gonna be the first time that I play the
song for people. I mean in a full band, real capacity.
I've played it a couple of times acoustic, but you know,
anytime you put out new music, it's it's scary at first,
and then you just hope that people let it into
their lives and projected onto their their story however they
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want to. And I feel like that song is slow
and steady, but it's doing that, and I can't wait
to play with Noah. I feel like that's really when
we get to present it like it's meant to be.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
So does that mean no, it's at the MSG show
right I.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Don't know yet.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I don't know that answer, but we are nominated for
CMA together.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
How does he which I'm getting off track, let me start.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Let me ask that.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
How did he react? Because this is familiar land for you.
You are a country artist, right, yeah, he this is
the first time he would be in that category.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So what was his reaction like to you for that?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So stoked? So stoked?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I mean, he loves country music and his album isn't
not country.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I mean I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
The songwriting is very storytelling, very much so in the
country space.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So he was really excited, and I mean he's excited
to go obviously, like he's not going to miss AMA's.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Come on, I want to go back to the Madison
Square Garden show because I felt excitement, but I also
felt anxiety as soon as you're like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
God, that's all the way. But what is that going
to be like?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Because it's been a minute since you've toured, which means
it's been a minute since the band's been together.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Pun intended absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
How emotional is that going to be knowing that your
life is in a new chapter, your career is in
a new chapter. People are already absorbing this music, So
what's it what's that going to be like to I mean,
this is almost a new step in this.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
New direction for Free.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I mean we're playing the record top to bottom four
days after it comes out, and it's all new production,
We're adding to the band.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
It's it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I just for me, when I first signed my record
deal like eleven years ago now, they were like, what's
your what's your dream, what's your goal? And nineteen year
old me, I was like, I want to come up
on a hydraulic lift in the middle of an arena.
And like for me growing up going to shows and
arenas and then when we move to Nashville go into
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Bridgetone all the time. For me, that was just that
was the moment of an artist that to me was like, Oh,
they've made it, like they're they're you know, That's That's
what I want to do. And historically there's not a
lot of women in country music that have made that
jump two arenas, and so I've always been really protective
of if I ever get to do that, I want
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to do it at a time where I can do
it right and and make everyone proud, you know. And
I just think on my fifth studio album, it's like
now or never, and so I just I'm really excited
to make the jump. I am so so the hydroug
lift is a part of the show as we have
a hydraulic lift.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Baby, I do want to I do want to ask,
because you have lived more, more vulnerably the last two
years than a lot of artists have in any format.
You have been super honest. You've been super open regardless
of how difficult that was for you. You learned from us
talking before. It's helped other people with how honest you've been,
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knowing that this is a big step in where your
career is going next with a massive MSG show. Does
Kelsey Ballerini cry that night?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Oh my god, I can cry thinking about it right now,
if I let myself, I cry every day.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I think we all do.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
But you know what.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
The other the other headline arena show that I did
was in Knoxville last year, my hometown arena, and I
cried all morning, went on stage, did the dang thing,
walked off stage. Not only did I cry, I ran
to the bathroom and just puked.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I was literally I was so anxious.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I was like a little ball of nerves and I
was like, Kelsey, get on that stage and make your
hometown proud, and I did it, and as soon as
I was done, I was just like, like, I just crying,
throwing up. I was.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
It was a lot, So I assume I'll do the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You're like, mom followed me to the bathroom?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Please have you thrown up in an MSG bathroom?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But I don't know, Actually that might not be that
uncommon backstage. Yeah, for sure when you talk about the
MSG show, people can see obviously as we'll share this
on social media. The excitement, Right, What is it about
this new album coming, the new music that's out there
and more that's coming, that has you, I mean, more
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confident than ever? Would I be right in saying that?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
I just a I'm really excited to move my narrative
from rolling up the Welcome Matt into where I've been
in my life the last year and a half, which
it's been amazing to be able.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
To just be able to give that EP so much life.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, but I am in a different place in my
life now and I feel like this album is finally
catching people up with that, and I just like it musically.
I think it's sick, I really do, and the songwriting
on it is a step up.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I'm really proud of that.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
The musicality is different, and I think it's going to
be for me as an artist and.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Evolution and just to step towards growth. I'm growing up.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I'm thirty one now, you know, and so it sounds
like that, and I'm really proud that I'm still evolving
from the girl that sings love Me like You mean.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It, which obviously is still important to you because it
got you where you're at put but life is life's.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
A little different.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Different.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, you just put out a song, and I want
to say the lyric video came out a couple of
days ago too, right, Yeah, two things.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
For the song.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Two things tell us the backstory on that and you
I'd imagine you get to pick These are called like
instant grat tracks or whatever, right, Yeah, so it's essentially
like it's a sampler album before the album. Yeah, why
tell us the backstory on the song and why you
decided that this deserved to kind of be part of that.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well before this record.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
The songs that you put out before an album are
like the ones that you're like, Man, I hope this
goes viral on TikTok, you know, like and I fully
played that game, and I'm not this time.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I think for me.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
We put out Sorry Mom, we put out Cowboys Cry
to You, obviously, and then two things, and then there's
one more before the album comes out.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
And they're not the bops.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
They're not the ones that we're gonna like scream sing together,
but they are like the cornerstone storytelling of the record,
which I wanted to show people before the whole thing
comes out. Two things years ago in therapy, like five
years ago in therapy, A long time ago in therapy,
my therapist was like, I need answers, Like I'm a
very I'm like, help me understand the situation. How do
(09:12):
I get here? I just need an explanation for everything.
And she's like, hey, sometimes two things can be true.
You can be happy and sad at the same time,
Like there's duality to life. You have to give space
to more than one thing. And that phrase has just
helped me a lot, just help sort things and compartmentalize
when I need to and all that. And so the
(09:33):
song is about this moment in a newer relationship where
you kind of are evaluating the patterns that you're bringing
into it. And so yeah, and you have to decide
whether you're gonna go from fighting with to fighting for
or you're not. And it was a very important song
(09:55):
for me to write and certainly a very important.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Lesson for me to learn.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And you have been open before in like, you know,
learn this in therapy, this and therapy.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Last time we talked, how.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Important is it for you to also live out loud, like, yeah,
see a therapist.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Oh for sure, therapist. I hope it's a luxury.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I understand that fully, but I think if you can,
you should because there's, like you know, there's trauma with
a big ta, the obvious traumas, but then there's lots
of traumas with the little tea and we all have
them and they impact us in the way that we
exist with ourselves and certainly in our relationships. And I
just I am very interested in becoming like the best
version of myself that I can. And I'm fully imperfect
(10:36):
in a million, trillion kamillion ways, but I'm interested in
the growth of me as a human and that's helped
me a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That Funny enough, we've had a lot of conversations.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I feel like mental health and country music is it's
it's bubbling to the top because we've had conversations like
that with Keith Urban. Recently, Park and McCollum is talking
about a weekend mental health to treatment, and even Tay's
doing this life code thing where she's or she's going
to school to like be a life coach.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, I ain't a life coach. My life coach help.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Me and I'll be the manager.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
But I want to I want to commend you for
that because even as a guy, it's so tough to
get to the therapy conversation because even for obviously for men,
but for women too, there's almost like, oh I saw
a therapist and the first reaction you're going to think is,
of course you did crazy, But it's I think it's
so important to like normalize it.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So I wanted to commend you for that.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Tell us a little bit about the album, and obviously
you just dropped patterns, right, so that's obviously there's a
little bit of life to that.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, the whole thing is I mean, it's like my
other records, it's the last year and a half of
my life highlighted and bookmarked, and it's a lot of
I think this thing happens when you turn thirty maybe
it's like the turn of every decade, but where you're like, okay,
it's not life here I am.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
How did I get here? What's my own doing? How
did I contribute? Okay? Right, all right? That was not
my best work.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Okay, So if I don't want to have this exact
thought in ten years, what do I need to change?
And then in my like most interpersonal relationships, what do
I need to challenge? And it takes you through that whole,
that whole journey, and some of it is very introspective
and a little heady, and some of it's like a
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bop and we're just vibing.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And I'm very proud of it.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Knowing how honest and raw your music has been as
of late, was it important for you to get the
bops out there again?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Well, listen, I.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Love a bop for sure.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I love a bob and I love a live show,
and so you need some uptim posts for the live show.
But my favorite songs on this record are not the bops.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I don't think really.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Now, oh but I think I just like my little
songwriter hard I'm like, give me the ballad, you know,
give me the give me the thing that's gonna make
me cry, so.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
When obviously we've heard Cowboys cry too, an emotional song.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Uh, your tech.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It feels like you're telling a story, but not necessarily
your story, because it's you're saying, hey, it's all good,
like cry. What story out of out of this album
would you say was the toughest to pull out of you?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Regardless of how involved.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You were with the right or the original idea, what
was the toughest, Because I mean, at some point, every
song or every artist has a song where they're like,
I cried, but it's done.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Here you go.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
There's a song called Beg for Your Love that I
think is probably the most raw, and even on the record.
It was the morning that we wrote it and it's
the demo and we have one microphone. I ripped off
my long fake nails to play guitar that morning, and
you hear the fire where any tennessee you hear the
fire in the background, and I'm just like picking away
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at a guitar.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
And that's what ended up on the record. It's like
very very.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It's very imperfect, and it's very raw, and the song
itself is as well. And I think it's a really
important message for for women, specifically, especially in a situation
coming off of like a big breakup that I'm proud
to tell, but it was it was definitely hard to write.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's all I got.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I can feel it, though. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
When you think about getting on stage, you're obviously the
MSG show. What are what are other shows and other
things you're looking forward to once the album comes out?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Tour? I need tour.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I'm like, I feel like this year has been amazing
because I've had I've had time to write the record
and live life and and do the voice and do
all these other things.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
But I miss singing like I'm a singer, you know,
And so I'm really excited to just get back.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
On the road and really remember that feeling of not
only writing the music, but like sharing it and feeling
that connection with people. And that's why we make records,
is to share them with people and have that moment
of connection.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
So I've really missed that. I'm really excited for that.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
How do you as.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
If somebody's just listening to you talk about the music
for the first time right now? I mean, you can
tell how passionate you are about the songwriting and about again,
you're a singer.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, I'm a singer.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
How hard is that? We'll clip that?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
How hard is that? As you could last time we
caught up. I mean, you're getting asked to be in endorsements. Here,
the voice of this, the face of this again, the
coffee that, all this stuff, right, how do you make
sure that the music stays top priority for you? Because
I'd imagine with all the asks, whether you get your
team gets that could get lost real quick.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I think for me, I I'm not one of the
artists that is like, Okay, just show up here and
you're here to do this.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I'm very much so. I I'm what's the word, a
control freak. That's the I'm a control freak.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yes, something more kind to say about myself, but I'm
a control freak. And so I think for me, at
the end of the day that everything else is coming
because of the music, right, whether it's the cover girl
panteen or the voice or whatever, it's because of the art.
And so I will always protect that and prioritize that
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the most.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But it's also fun to play.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
It's fun to be able to try acting for the
first time and just see if that feels creatively fulfilling,
or you know, be on the voice and try coaching
for the first time and see if that feels creatively fulfilling.
Because at the end of the day, it's all gonna
it's all gonna help each other. So I think, as
long as there's space for all of it, I'm happy.
But the second that I feel like I don't have
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time to write or live a life to write about,
then I'll wave a flag.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So the Voice you're gonna be on starting in twenty
twenty five?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Is this and I don't remember reading? Is this a
temporary deal or is it like you're.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Locked in for a while right now?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I'm just doing this this season twenty seven and it's
so fun. I mean, we're by time this airs, I
think I'll be I'll only have two people left on
my team and then we don't go live until I
think February, So it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
How is it so you're in taping right now?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Then?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, how is it gone?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's amazing?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And I know you can't say a lot, but what's
been the biggest not the talent, but just from your seat,
what's been the biggest surprise that you're like I was
not expecting this.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Well. I was really intimidated being in a chair next
to Adam Levine and John Legend and Michael Boublay. Like
I've seen all of them in concert. I'm fans of them.
I grew up more or less on them, and so
to be in the same position, you know, and fight
for these artists against them was terrifying. And I didn't
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know them, you know, Like I was like, oh my god,
are they going to be like rock stars? Are they
going to be like who are you? Like, I didn't know,
and they're just I can't say enough about Like we're
on this group chat, it's our little voice group chat,
and it's like I'll send a picture of the dogs,
and they'll send a picture of their kids, and then
they'll be like, Hey, I'm going to stop by the
bakery and grab some cinnamon rolls for today, anyone want anything?
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Like It's just so pure and sweet, and I feel
like I got some brothers out of it. So it's
I think that will translate.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
As soon as she said group chat and want me
to pick up anything, it made me think of a
lix er.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Have you had a lex or coffee down the street?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
No.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
So it's at fifth and Broadway, and it's I mean
it's super like modern, like like almost like yeah, bougie
c but there's a there's a strawberry oat milk latte
and the strawberry oat milk macha and I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
It's and it's I want.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
To say, it's if you walk either way, you walk
into fifth and broad whether it's from Broadway or from
fifth it's in the first floor in the corner, and
it's Okay, dope, it's good.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Strawberry oat milk is all you had to say to me. Yeah,
that sounds really good.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, it's fantastic. Sorry, that's a d D.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You got the best.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
She's like texting for an order. I'm like, that reminds
me of when I park. I'm like, you want me to.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Go grab coffee?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You like, like I said, you seem more confident and
not And I don't mean that you weren't confident before.
You're you're just so comfortable and where you're at and
you're so exciting where you're at.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
What would you say is.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
The biggest difference now versus a handful of years ago
in your preparation in your writing in your recording, I
would say.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
The handful of yours.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I would say, every single bit of the last few
years is the difference. I think that I just I
think that I I I've learned a lot about myself
and and what I need and what I can give
in my career, in my.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Relationships, all of it.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I also think that I put less stock in what
is success and I put more stock in like, am
I happy? And that has turned out to be successful.
So I'm going to keep down that side.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Stop life coaching over there.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
My god, she was like, she was like this period.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I mean, I still listen.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I still have a little complex if I like read
a bad comment. I'm a human, but I've I'm not
on Reddit anymore, so that's good.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You know, come along, So I host. Do you ever
make it to Pred's games?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I went to the Stanley Cup one time and that
was so much fun.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
And that's all we got to get you better.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So I host all the games. So like I'm in
the crowd, giving away prizes and stuff like that. And
and it's funny because every now and again someone will
go to reddick. Everybody has haters. But there was a
couple of people ripping into me about Pred's games, and.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So it didn't bother me. But she looked and she's like,
I'm about to beat some.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Mass I know.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I know.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
It was a couple of years ago. I was like, refresh, refresh,
but I don't do that and I don't have Twitter anymore.
You know, you just you find the things that serve
you and then you just cut out the rest of
the down.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Uh So when when fans wrapped their arms around this album,
what is what's one thing you hope they take away
from it? Because you just put out a bunch of
music that was super therapeutic and it was music for everybody,
but really talked to to I don't want to say
a small but like, sure's you cast a smaller net
(21:50):
than normaleah specific Obviously this project, from what we've heard
so far, the nets wider and yeah there's more, there's
more to feed on.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, So what do you hope they take away from
this album?
Speaker 4 (22:04):
If you would have asked me this question for any
other record, I would say, I hope they feel empowered
or I hope they feel seen. I want people to
feel whatever they want to feel like. It's just not
my job to tell people what to feel, you know,
And I think.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
For me, my biggest goal is that I made sure
to keep the.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Like the songwriting, integrity and the honesty that I found
and welcome at for this album. Yeah, so it is
very much so about my life. My hope is that
I gave as much information as I wanted to, no more,
no less, And so I hope that people don't dig
too much into my story, but they can project their
own life onto it and feel whatever they want to
(22:48):
in theirs.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I think that's the.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Goal that And that was going to be my last question,
but you made me think of something else. The world
is so loud right now, whether it's negativity on social media,
it's political this, it's that. How important is it for
you to just be a healthy distraction right.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Now from that?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I mean that's what music is. It's escapism.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Or or it's the thing that makes you feel like
you're sitting on the couch with someone who knows you
better than anyone.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Right, It's it's either way. That's what I love about shows.
It's like it can be either.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
You can step into a world for an hour and
a half and literally forget everything else going on. Or
you can step into a world and be like I
heard that preach, same girl, and you know it either way,
And I mean that's what I love going.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
To shows for.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
So yeah, I mean I hope, I hope that if
people just want to like put their windows down and disassociate,
I got you. But also if you want to get
in your feels and pop a bottle of wine.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I can't wait to go to your next show and
go same girl, Same Girl. I'm gonna get as close
as I can in the whole show. Just go same girl, Okay,
same You'll be like I heard you the first time?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Can I sing to everybody else? Show you mind up.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I've always wanted to play the venue across the street.
So if I get to same Girl, wait.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
This one or this one because we got are you talking?
Oh you're talking this one over here over there. Yeah, listen,
we know some people. Okay, they're the janitors and I
don't know what that's Listen, you're.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
The press game guy.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
That's that's true. I'll walk in. I'll be like, I'll
be like, listen to me.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Uh, congrats on the album, Congrats on kicking ass and
the joy that you have career wise, on your face
right now is contagious.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
They're very happy for you for that.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Oh,
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