WB and Mike talk about a new must have tool for every garage, and Willies brother talks tuning

WB and Mike talk about a new must have tool for every garage, and Willies brother talks tuning.

https://www.gripedgetools.com/

Episode Transcript

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What a wavies garage? Willie Bee'sgarage is now open? What is that?
Welcome to your Saturday morning? Willhe be his garage? Glad to
be back in a couple of weeks. Last week was dope though, can't
wait tell you where was at?What I saw? What a witness learned,
some of that cool stuff. Talkto tune in today as well.

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We'll see. I got a coupleof feelers out of Kai. Maybe join
us from BMW, which is kindof cool. What they're doing in the
old racing world. Man, there'ssome crazy, well just scenarios rumors.
We'll get into a few of those, which is interesting. My man,
Mike Pettiforward in the house. Heis go for it services, go the

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number four go for it services,getting you tuned up behind the wheel and
on course, whether it's you know, two wheels, four wheels, or
even you whacking doodle three wheel guys. What up Mike things man, Hey
man, good good to be back, Good to see you. Yeah,
what up? You know you're racing? Yeah, yeah, we're doing pretty
good. Number one and two classes, so I think we're gonna get it

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done again this year. Just numberone of two classes. What about the
other class, Well, one one'sbeen harder. We've had some mechanical issues
with the with the solstices, sothat's always a challenge. Yeah, it's
good, good to see you,man. You've been traveling all over Yeah,

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it's been crazy. I've been.I've been down Colorado for you.
Back in the road next week,which is wild, but it's the last
time, last time in got itfor a while away till September. Yeah,
and I got one more, onemore kick I gotta roll out of
town for. But yeah, man, it's wild. It's we had this

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weird thing Discovery Channel with the TVshow I do. Discovery Channel cut a
bunch of program this year. Theyjust tightened up the reins. We're gonna
be back because they were going throughthis sort of reshaping so they couldn't putting
money out there on shows. Longstory short, Some shows even from the
production company that I work with,got trimmed off. My show, however,
was not still there, so thatthey just moved up all the recordings

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that. Yeah, yeah, theymoved it up so everything fits in the
smaller window now. So it's rampedup the the amount of times I've been
out. But it's been Really it'skind of cool because you know, it
helps us just get some cooler projectson the show, which has been fun.
So yeah, we've done you know, old school gto frame off.

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So it's cool stuff. So andthat continues this past week. I was
at this crazy so doing SEEMA overthe last number of years. When you
go out to Seema, a lotof SEMA and a lot of life in
the car world is just networking,you know, it's just the way it

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is. I'm not best of itbecause you know, I have my regular
job. A lot of these guysto get out and do the things I
do, that's all they do.They're just their whole world is tethered to
the automotive environment right where I'm somewhatof an anomaly. My my car stuff,
last TV stuff is is just myside job. And I you know,

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I've never been on TV show thatI wasn't asked to be on,
you know, So it's just oneof those things. It's just worked out
and that in that regard, andI like it. But you know,
I've never just jumped for full intothat because I've I love radio and you
know, I plan on doing aslong as I can blah blah blah.
So it's it's interesting because, youknow, especially with SEMA, networking is

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crucial. In that networking you findpeople that you know, provide you with,
you know, certain opportunities. Forexample, the reason I'm i was
out last week, I'm hosting Thisis in Show, which is a massive,
massive tool convention. As what SEEMAis to cars and car builders,
this is In Show is to tooland tool dealers. So it went on

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for like what a week. Itgoes on for like three days, you
know, but it's a massive youknow, several people from you know,
from here and Colorado were out there. Several people from all over the world
came in from you know, allover this country, Canada, you know,
other places, and they just buytools at a at a you know,

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reasonable markdown considering what they're going toresell for on their trucks to shops
and you know facilities like that orthe brick and mortar buildings that are going
to turn around sell it in theirstores. So they get this incentive to
purchase tools there. Meaning the moremoney you spend or your company spends more

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money you can make, the moremoney, yeah, you can make,
but the more money you also getback, so for every five hundred they
may give you a fifty spot.Oh yeah, and you also get tickets.
So these tickets, well, listento this. These tickets are all
raffle tickets. And the prizes thatthey give away at the end of this

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week is just on gotly. Igave way four vehicles. I get way
fifty thousand dollars, get away severalfive thousand dollars prize packs, several like
unreal like you know, outdoor packs, campers side by side, just and
like cars full of man like notnot crappy cars like Chevy Togs loaded Okay,

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yeah, I mean like big,nice, fifty seventy thousand dollars rides.
Yeah. So because there's dude,there is so much money that flows
through this place. The size ofit is somewhat breadtacking. But the technology
and tools nowadays really unbelievable. Andwe're gonna go to break. I'll tell

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you about a couple of big onesthat won some awards. I just had
one of the podcasts that is mindblowing. Hey, trust me, I
don't I'm not receiving a dime fromthis company, but I watched it.
I tried like hell to prove whatI was seeing as wrong. And I
gotta tell you, man, forevery person that has ever fought a fastener,

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a strip bolt, you know howit is. Man, Alan riches,
for example, suck because they twistout and they just literally it's one
of those things that if you geta rounded out Alan head, what a
pain in the ass. Right,And we've all had him. We've all
had fasteners, bold heads, youknow, studs, things like that that

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have been a nightmare broken off orsheer boats. Dude, i gotta tell
you, I was blown away bythis company who have have really got a
new design or something a little uniqueand different. I'm not going to have
anybody from the company. I'm justgonna tell you about them, because man,

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I'm looking forward to I think youcould actually go on their website and
where I haven't even looked yet,which I will do in the break.
So it's a well it is.It's the old concept. If you're if
you're one of those guys, adoi guy, a dude that works in
the shop, or some guy thatyou know maybe just works in that field

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or not afraid to turn the wrench. We've all we've all had an issue
with strip boats or rounded out youknow, fasteners or torques or you know
allan wrenches. All of them hashave f'd us over at one point or
another. But this company has doneamazing with extraction. So I'll tell you

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a little bit about it in justa second. Let's get through this break
or a still talk a tune inthe day, some BMW's and more.
It's my pedaphord is Willy b It'sWilly Be's garage. Thanks for your time.
So on seventy nine KBPI Willib's garage. You're back in Willybe's garage.

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What if y'all what it Be's garage? Bird? You know we need more
burnouts. So I saw some videothis weekend that was hysterical. Some kid.
It was like this. I thinkit was like a car show or
cars and Coffee or something, andit was basically like when a kid orders
you to do it burnout, youmust do it burnout. It really is,
it really is. Anyway, it'shysterical. So this weekend, now

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you'll appreciate this. Even if you'reyou know, if you're a just a
di y guy, if you wrenchin a shop, if you're you know,
even if you're into you know,construction, or don't necessarily do a
lot of wrenching. We've all battleda fastener, a bolt, you know,
an allan boat before. We've allyou know, fought the fastener battle.
And for a lot of times,it sucks, man, And it

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seems to happen in the worst scenarios. It could possibly happen and you're in
a mad rush you need something youknow, fast or you're you know,
you're on the edge. You gotto you know, get something repaired.
Really, it always seems to occurat a time when it's the most inconvenient.
Uh. Now, it's funny becauseover the years, you know,

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with Carson Christmas, one of theone of the biggest things that we fight
is you know, boats that havesheared off or people that have stripped out
bolts or fasteners or bolt heads thathave had Look, man, look,
I'm not hating on anybody goes aharbor freight or picks up a you know

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a couple of riches that you knowaren't necessarily the best or highest quality and
may tend to round off or takesome material when you apply some torque.
It happens right, or boats justover time yeah, man, Hey,
got me some of those in theshop too. Not gonna lie however,

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whether it's you know, just thehead of that boat, there's a lot
of degradation on it. There's alot of just you know, clamp marks,
or it's rounded, or it's it'sweak somehow, or it's sheared off,
or you have something like a torqueor a you know, name your
bit and there's been a scenario whereit's bitting you in the butt. So
I'm walking through these these tool companiesand I see, I see a booth

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just up ahead. It's got alot of action in it. So you
know, you tend to you know, those guys that have displays, right,
and you've seen most of us havebeen through a you know, some
thing that's had to display. Andyou know, whether it's some dude slinging
cookwaar or some guy you know doinga bolt removal extraction deal like yeah,
yeah, you've seen them. Man. You could be at the stock show

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and there's a dude like, hey, magic, you know, a potato
maker or fry maker. All yougotta do is chevy potato in here and
give it a get a whack witha hammer. Uh. We've all seen
those. Yeah, yeah, Imean sometimes you can see right away that
those things are absolutely trash. Butsometimes you see some things and you're pretty
impressed with it. So when Iwhen I sit there and I'm watching what

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the guy is doing. So thecompany is called grip edge Tools, and
you could find them online. Ijust went to Google or Duck Ducko and
just put in grip edge Tools andit took me to griped edgetools dot com.
Uh it's dude, I'm telling youman. So this company has done
something really unique. It's the firsttime I've ever seen it. They they

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have just on say, for example, an Allen head. We're real familiar
with an Allen head. When youhave an Alen head and you stick to
your your Allen in there and applyany torque. The way that those are
designed, it's designed to take thatthat power, that energy and flex it
outward right, and that's inherently howthey are. So oftentimes they're they're stripping

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out bolts that rounds out the inside, and you have an alan that is
completely rounded and it doesn't matter.You'll you'll find out if you do a
lot of these that it doesn't matterbecause you bounce back between standard and metric
variations because the sizes, you know, tend to help you find a comfortable
bit that fits in there with enoughbite where you could, you know,

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get it out. But most oftentimes, after you eat up some material in
that bolt head, it doesn't matterwhether it's metric or a standard. You're
just trying to find one that fits, but you can never get the bolt
out. So this company, GripEdge Tools, I step up in their
booth and I'm watching. First off, I'm watching this guy attack a Grade

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eight rounded bolt. The bolt isGrade eight, which is for most people
that's as strong as they're ever goingto need for anything. So he has
got this rounded off Grade eight boltin a fastener like what you normally see
most people when you're thinking about extractionin their tool you know, in their

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tool box they have a set ofIrwin extractors that have a curved left hand
thread deal that you beat on itwith a hammer. You hope it's gotten
a bite and it as you moveit to the left, it bites down
on the bolt. But as youknow, those tend to take off a
lot of material too, And whathappens when you apply torque to it,

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It wants to flare off of thefashion the bolt ahead it works against itself.
Well, imagine that same design butnot curved or turned straight down with
a piece of metal sliver in themiddle of it that you hammer on it,
and it actually cuts indentations, sixof them into the bolt head.

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What's fascinating about the whole procedure isit not only allows you to get a
significant bite on the boat. Andthis is a remember this is a Grade
eighth bolt. I called BS andI was like, bolt man, let
me see it. So he handsthe demo block to me, and this
is no joke. The faster isstill on it. And I shared the
Grade eight bolt with the removal toolthat he had, and he's like,

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here's something else where I shared itat right, he said, you can
still use this bolt. So hepulls it off, right, he pulls
the head of it off, Likemost of those would just chew up the
head of the bolt, but hepulls it off. He's like, what's
this and takes it off, thentaps it back on. He lines up
where it cut the bolt and linesit up again, and you can screw
what's left of the bolt back inor out. Really, yeah, Wow,

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So you could reuse the bolt evenif it's completely round. If it's
rounded off, you can use itif you're stuck in a pinch, if
you're out on the field, oryou're at you know, on the side
of the road and you got astrip boat, you can get that bolt
off even though it's rounded, andyou can reuse the bolt. Wow,
it's amazing. He's got a littleextraction tool that punches out I mean a

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really every issue, because what happensif you break a boat, you try
to you got a head stuck inthe in the the socket, right,
Well, he's got a little toolof just screws in there boot knocks it
off. It's amazing, it's nuts. Wow, it was really fascinating.
And then for studs, it's gotamazing you know a little deal that that

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locks down on the stud itself.And how about this, it doesn't matter.
He took a bolt again, agreat eight bolt rounded you know,
face of the boat, completely roundit off and then use the threads on
the other side with another fastening oranother you know extraction tool that locks on
the threads for like a stud removalkit. Right, so he locks the

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one under the threads and he takesthe grade eight bolt, shears the bolt
off again because I'm saying, letme see that again, So he shears
off again, and then he removesthe one that was on the studs and
he takes that that stud that hewas just holding on threads with and screws
a bolt on it. It doesn'tdamage the threads. Wow. Yeah,
which is crazy fascinating and it reallyis. There Alan Ridge, their torques,

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they all have this additional little machiningon the head of the fashion removal
the foreign object removal device is whatthey call it. So that little Allen
way you're looking normally, you knowat an Allan bit, it's got a
different sort of flank that's machined intoit that allows the torque of the the

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cool to instead of normally how it'sapplied outward, to make it apply inward,
and it just screws it fast,harder down in the actual you know,
faster, the rounded off part.So it's amazing that it locks in
and you couldn't, man, youcan get any effing faster you want out.
And again I yeah, that's thec and it really was, man,

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and I trust me, I putthese things to the test. And
I was, I was really stunnedat how just well they worked. And
here's their philosophy. If you usethese every time, you're never going to
strip one out, which is true, right, if you use the right
ones. So it's just most ofthese these bits that you're using, the

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torques, the island things like that, most of them have not been improved
since they were really created, right, you know, but this he has
it on a big three models.Could appreciate this because he use all these
three D twoling you putting off thisbig, massive three D model and it
was it was dope and it allowedthe tooling to be amplified so you can

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see it and you know, onthis big blown up model, and it
was it was significant. It wasreally a really nice just way to you
know, you can call it ahacker, you can call it a you
know, evolutionary leap and designer towhatever you want. But it's a really
significant change in all of these bits, or at least how they perform and

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how they are applying the pressure toremove whatever object, fastener, stud or
whatever is the problem. And itthey got it for everything, and that
little subtle difference in machining. Theythey've applied that to every single one of
them, and it is unbelievable.It works. It's crazy cool. So
it really was something I was blownaway by. And if you ever see

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it for for anybody that has tofight that issue or problem, that will,
honest to God, be a significanthelp. And it's so cool.
You started off being a skeptic andnow you're a fan. Oh. Absolutely.
I haven't bought one yet. Ijust you know, I went on
their website for the first time.Before I didn't actually know you could buy

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some of the stuff they do,but hey, trust me, these things
are really I mean, these thingsare pretty as far as any bolt fasteners,
stud sheered off bolt, anything likethat that's normally a big headache,
a big issue. It could turna two hour job in a two day
job if you're fighting that. Ifyou ever come across that, trust me,

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you will be so glad that youspend the money. I don't even
know what they cost, but you'llbe glad you spent the money because these
things will not fail. And ifyou use them from the get go,
you don't have to worry about Ifyou just use these first off, you
don't have to worry about it ever. Strip it, right, So just
replace the old ones an upgrade,you know what you have. And I'm
telling you, man, I was, and I this is no joke.

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I was there for a couple ofdays. I went back to that booth
the next day and still ft witheveryone they had just to see if I
could, you know, get itto not perform like it should be or
like it said that it could.And I was, I was, honest,
God, I was blown away bothdays. You know, in there
for a minute and he's like,oh, you know your boats and fashions.
I'm like, dude, we dealwith cars for Christmas. We deal

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with that problem a lot, likea lot all the time. I'm sure.
Yeah, man, you could peepwith some you know, janky ass
tools, man, and they'll domore dammage than good. Like, oh
no, it's stripped. We're justlike, No, we spent two days
on a damn lug nut last year, dude. It was ungodly. So
yeah, man, there's I'm tellingyou there's a big time help there.

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Grip Edge. It's just grip Edgetools what I googled. And it it's
a green you'll see, it's likea logo and it's got a little ge
meld in the middle air, butit is. It is way cool grip
edge tools. I think you guyswill be some big time help from you
know, from that company if youever run up against a faster giving you

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a hard time, So doublely somethingto check out. Hey, there's been
rumors, discussions. You know,my man Mike Pettiford knows probably more about
this than well does Adams County MotorsportsPark. You guys see this rendering going
around this week, there was astory about you know, hey, this
looks like it actually may happen.Donnie my boy who runs Pueblo Motorsports Park.

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For those that don't know, they'vereally done a lot of upgrades to
that facility. They've resurfaced that firstthree hundred and thirty feet of the track,
so that's big time for anybody.And the road course is fun too.
Yeah. I was gonna say foranybody ever want to try a road
course or get out, you know, on a track, this guy.
It really does have great runout,some really nice you know turns and elevation

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drops. It's a fun track,man. I think it's two miles right,
two point two with ten turns.Okay, Yeah, not Attorney is
like a high plane Nope, buttwo point five with seventeen turns? Yeah
yeah, but man, it's fun. How do you rate Pueblo Motorsports Park?
You know the road course because alot of people only know it is

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a drag ship. They use thatyeh, the long you know straight away
as the dragstrip. How do youguys in the road course community, how
do you feel understanding? You know, we got to share that property.
But is it a good road course? Is it a fast course? Is
it something that you know stands up? I mean, I would say in
Colorado it's kind of a toss upbetween high planes. And I'm real familiar

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with high planes, yeah yeah,kind of familiar with Peblo. Yeah yeah,
and it's I mean personally I likehigh planes just a little better,
not much better, but Pueblo.Both of them are real technical. Both
of them are really good for testingyour car. People don't like turn ten
the motorcycle guys don't like turn tenat Pueblo because it's so slippery because of

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the drag race stuff, especially inthe rain. But other than that,
I mean, both of them arereally good courses, right right, But
so what motorcycle guys. Is moreof us than our you Oh, I
don't know, Yeah, there isbarely. But at the same time we

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do we get it, you know, we understand we're out there raising doing
our thing too. Everybody gets alittle piece of asphalt. But for a
you know, for a check whatare it's pros? Uh you know what
are it's what are people when theygo there, Because if you've never done
high planes, high plane is awesome. It's awesome. Big elevation drops and
some buying turns, some you know, unique turns, some off camber stuff,

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some fast turns, some really slowones. Lines are crucial critical out
there, some you know some tome, some ample passing places and things
like that that you can really sliceand dice. I've never been in a
competition in Pueblos. I don't know. It's just done it myself. No,
Pueblo's Preblo is absolutely the same.I mean, they've got elevation changes.

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You go down five and up sixsix A six B. I mean
that that's a magical section out therebecause you're going like one hundred miles an
hour and you're getting that five percentslip and you hit both your apexes and
then you go in deep to seven, which is a real tight second gear
corner and come out so it's it'sreally cool. And then on a bike,

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when you come out of turn fourwith like an open class bike,
you are wheelie and all the waydown that section. Buddy, Oh it's
it's way cool. Yeah, yeah, you definitely see that. Oh yeah,
I like them both. And thecar guys get a little sideways coming
out of ten as well. It'sjust just a part. It's part of

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the course, man. Yeah,it's a it's a lively corner. Yeah,
all right, that's Mike Pettiford.Go for it services, go the
number four it services. He definitelytune you up behind the wheel, whether
it's high planes, whether it's youknow, Pueblo Motorsports Park, a time
attack and motorcycle. Yeah. Wedon't talk a lot about the Hunter because
it's so far away, but it'slike Jewlesburg, right, Jewlsburg is a

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decent little drag trip, you know, not bad, but again it's a
it's a stretch. But you knowfor those up in the north end and
you know the Hunter down to thesouth end, you know, maybe it's
one of those things, right,it's not like we're in say, Kentucky.
We're gonna talk to my brother herein a minut about tuning. There's
six drag trips within an hour anda half drive of him, right,

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I mean, that's God. That'stalking about drag racing country, you know.
And there's road courses to galore.So unfortunately it's tougher here. But
there's been this rumor about this newfacility out of Adams County. Uh,
there was a story going around,I think it was going around this week
about how there there was a renderinggoing around and there was a you know,

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a lot of discussions about it.I don't think they broke ground.
But what are you hearing about thisAdams County Motorsports facility? Well, the
Ascent facility. This is something they'vedone, by the way, for a
long time. There's been this discussion, this rumor and and idea for about
a decade. I remember going toa seminar on it and a thing out
the horse Shack or something like,you know, ten years ago. Yeah,

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and multiple people. I mean I'vegone to all of these. I've
I've written checks and got my moneyback because they never you know, broke
ground, you know, this oneseems just as convincing, and everybody seems
really excited, and it looks likeit's gonna happen. I certainly hope it.

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You know, I'm kind of askeptic because I've been to so many
of these and they start out reallygreat and then they see to peter out.
But I would love to have anotherfacility, you know, closer than
high planes in the in the Denverarea, like we used to have with
Second Creek Raceway. Yeah, evenremember, yeah, yeah, it was

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good. Yeah, I miss allof those you know that were Yeah,
there was a moment man where youcould really you could drive around. You
could drive into Denver Metro and popoff a few road yeah withins. Yeah,
yeah, it was awesome. Itwas man crazy that we just thirst
for any facility now and just youknow, where can we go? I

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know, blow them out, aswe'd like to tell the officers when you
get pulled. I just blown itout. Man. Did you ever get
a chance to do Stapleton? Yeahonce? Yeah, yeah, on a
bike or yeah in the rain.No, no, not in the rain.
But I was out there when youwere hosting the Stapleton when we were
out on the on the tarmament.I was out there for Excel Motorcycles riding

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for them then and that was ablast, dude. So that was one
of the coolest races ever. Sothat was a That's one of the first
times I saw mister Mike Pittsford,who's this bossy as dude and just do
what he says. It was ablast, man. But again, we're
looking at facilities now, and it'sa track anywhere you want to go.

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It would be nice, you know, to have something here, but also
have it open to the public.What I'm seeing in this particular build or
it looks like is it one ofthose private country club sort of motorsports complexes,
which, don't get me wrong,I'm sure that is amazing. Can
you guys imagine having, you know, having a racetrack just out by,

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honey, I'm gonna go bust offa couple laps and being able to do
that, well, having your ownfacility, yeah, your own everything out
at the track. Yeah, that'ssick. Anyway, we'll see if it
ever comes to bring a little bitof money, bring a lot of bit
of money. I feel like that'sgonna be a lot of bit if it

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costs you know, thirty g's togetting a castle pines. Imagine what you
know what plush you know, velvetcouches on the inside versus mechanic benches.
Now you can have it custom builtto your specifications right there. You go.
Oh that's yeah, that sucks foreverybody with a Nova or a Barracou

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like me. Oh well that willbe fun though, Man, we'll be
fun anyway. Uh more to talkabout it would be his garage. Hey,
you know how to tune your car? This is gonna be interesting.
I need to get my buddy,my buddy Louis, who is an old
mopark guru. I'll get him onthe phone first. Interesting, we're gonna
speak to my brother a little bitabout tuning today. He's got an old

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school get this rare car. He'sgot an old school nineteen seventy I think
it is seventy, maybe seventy orseventy one. Himmi Barracuda, an original
Himmi Barracuda. Yeah, for twentysix the og baby, the ex actually
the second generation hmmy, but theoriginal four to twenty sixth the original elephant

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that was Bakerhood. Yeah, yeah, shaker Hood. You know all the
bells and whistles on it. Whatwill that car and this is completely stock,
so it's exactly like it was inyou know, nineteen seventy is it's
birthday nineteen seventy, nineteen seventy one, whatever that may be. And remember
this was at the time one ofthe baddest engine combos on earth. Maybe

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it was a goliath in a worldof David's, you know what I'm saying.
It was a beast. It wonwell back in the day, it
won, you know, all therecords, just set all the records,
both in NASCAR and on the dragstrip. Interesting to see what that will
put down on a rear wheel Dino. Yeah, so most people, and

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it was always said to be oneof those things that muscle car numbers back
in the day were a little augmentedbecause of insurance you know, prices and
what insurance companies were doing at thetime and still today. Yeah, so
there is some people that would arguethat they were they would come very detuned

(31:27):
from the factory just because that thatfour to twenty five number was so significant
back in that era that you know, insurance companies were having a hard time,
you know, slapping insurance on theseventeen year old you know what I'm
saying, Uh even tell me whathe is nowadays? So interested to see

(31:48):
what you think and what your thoughtson what that thing truly puts down.
Yeah, it'd be a good bea good litmus because my brother's garage is
like sixty feet above out above sealevel. Yeah. Perfect, you know,
and he's in you said, Kentucky. Yeah, he said, Yeah,
he's in Kentucky. Cool and gota lot of a lot of air

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there, man, Yeah, alot of air that is a seat level.
Yeah. Yeah, it's funny becauseit's just on the you know,
just on foothills. What would bethe appalations, But let me tell you,
the air is rich. There're anyway, let's get through this break.
We'll see we can't get him onthe horn, hopefully talking to Kay a
little bit later, he runs,you know for Collins BMW place, and

(32:32):
you know, it's it's amazing thatBMW has well has just risen to the
level of performers that they're at.They're contender against, you know, even
our Big Three. Now it's alsointeresting to see how they're well, how
they're moving and shaking for the future, and hey, I gotta tell you
got a teenager. There's a goodchance he'd take that BMW that you know.

(32:53):
I three thirty five whatever it isover your camaro any day. I
know right, it seems absurd,but it's kind of reality. Anyway,
we'll talk about it. Nine thirtysix, it's will to be his garage?
What a seven nine kvpi Willy P'sgarage. Portions of the following program

(33:14):
were prerecorded. You're back in Willie'sgarage. Often wonder what what portions are
they referring to? It's one sevennine kvp. I will be his garage.
Mike Petterford, go for it services. That'd be the number four.
Go for its services. Tune upbehind the wheel, whether it's two wheels,

(33:35):
four wheels, or what it'll getyou. Uh, just ripping high
planes. Pueblo. We just talkedabout Pueblo Motorsports Park. Hey man,
good times, drag racing, motorcycling, don't matter. Get right behind the
wheel. It is big time help. You know what happens, it's it's
easy to quit, right. Soonce you're I was talking to you know,
Mandy Conness, he works on oneof our amitations. She was just

(33:59):
going on full time about people doone hundred miles an hour, And I
say, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what if somebody's
really really comfortable doing one hundred milesan hour that you know that can happen.
There's people that you know do onehundred miles an hour all all day
behind the Yeah, exactly, talkingabout people like you that are doing one
hundred miles an hour all day behinda wheel, and it's nothing so for

(34:21):
them, that moment in time thatis so alarming for say you or somebody
that you're describing may not be sointimidating and or seem as fast as somebody
that's very comfortable doing it and doesit on a regular basis, whether it's
how the car reacts, or howto maneuver the car, what to do
as far as breaking at that speedand progressive breaking when you're trying to hit

(34:43):
an apex or even coming out ofan things that do when the car gets
unsettled. You may be able tohandle that no problem, even at one
hundred where some people just freak out. Yeah, and in an emergency situation,
the more comfortable you are with thecar our limits makes you a safer
driver. Yeah, And we dothis all the time. With that comfort,

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there is security. It's just theway it is if you're if you're
in an emergency and that triggers yourfear response, you're not gonna make as
good of a decision. You're notgoing to react as quickly because fear is
typically a paralyzer in an emergency situation. Yeah, freeze, I'm already frozen.

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It has been my brother on thephone. He's Uh, he's awesome.
He's one of the best tuners you'veever come across when it comes to
finding out, you know, howmuch power you can put down on your
car. We'll talk a little bitabout that in just a second, but
when it comes to tuning modern cars, it's nuts. Man. He could
he could diagnose the problem so quick. Uh. And it's it's funny.
I got an HP tuner deal andI go on and get an HP tuners

(35:51):
and kind of learning figuring it out. But anytime, man, I have
just the most elementary question for him, I'm like, bro, need help,
dude, this This guy is amazingwhen it comes to tuning to rise
and really it started out at HP, but it's become so much more than
that. He's got his own DinoDino service called Warlock Dinal Tuning. Uh,
and man, thanks for coming onthe show. Always cool to catch

(36:14):
up man, you always got coolprojects. Uh. We'll tell everybody what's
coming up in your shop a littlebit later because we want I want to
guess at what power it makes itwelcome the show man. How you been
bro? Thanks, Bro, appreciateit. So it's been going good.
And just had one customer drive offin a in a C ten truck that
was you know, swapped out,had a Holly Snipers system put on it.

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Truck's been in kind of different shopsin various places for over a year
and they brought it here about twoweeks ago. We we wrapped it up
and said, yeah, we canget this thing knocked out, so send
us some wiring on it, didthe tune, did the Dinoh session,
and the couple just drove off init today. The wife was in tears.
It was a truck belonged to herdad, and so it was it's

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been a good morning. That's supercool man. Cool. It's cool man
when it really today, especially tuning, you know, l swap the world.
I'm a big believer in I'm afan. Got me, you know,
gin for him. He's sitting atthe house that we'll get into here
in just a little bit, becausethose are becoming more popular. But let's
be honest, nobody has the supportingcast all the you know, ancillary support

(37:19):
that's needed to do you know,basically an just swapping everything nowadays, whether
you're looking for motor mounts, worryingcomputers, all the support system like you
need exhaust headers, you know,in ways to get it right and tuning
and all that fun stuff. Man, the LS world is robust with all
kinds of answers out there. Thatwhat makes them, it's really what makes
them just notch above everybody else andwhy they have so many out there just

(37:43):
l swapping everything. But dude,these things have become so well, it's
so easy a tune for people likeyou who can plug a laptop in start
messing tweaking on a computer. Andwhat a lot of people don't realize the
old days of tuning, you know, with a carburetor, when a screwdriver,
change out plugs, sit and gap, looking at the timing, finding

(38:04):
out where that line on spark plugis if you get add a little more
timing to it, looking for thatline way up on the ceramic and the
sparkplug as well, if you're goodat reading plugs. Uh. It really
has become such a lost art,that's the magic nowadays. The lot of
people look at you go, Idon't know how you old timers do that,
because everybody does it, you know, with the laptop of the keyboard

(38:25):
nowadays. And man, you canmake some ungodly adjustments for big improvements nowadays,
a lot faster, oh so muchfaster. Yeah, that's definitely true.
But you know, I kind ofthink back to those carburetor tuning days,
and you know everything the fuel injectiondoes. A carburetor does a lot

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of those thing, you know,functions and features. You just have to
know what screws just said right quarterthree places, and you know how that
aero fuel combodation mixes together. Butwe still do quite a few carburetors set
up, mostly believe or not inthe dirt track world because they haven't switched
over the fuel injection yet. Andthere's a dirt track right here in the

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town where I'm at, So Ibelieve I've got a couple of dirt track
guys that have gone to eighty five. So we've switched them over. Most
of them are still running regular,regular fuel or race gas. But we
do a lot of car set upstill on the dirt track guys, And
it's always fun getting them in here. It's horrible cleaning up after them,
you know, after a dirt trackcar has been on your dino. But
they're a lot of fun to messwith. Yeah, even five is a

(39:30):
game changer. You need a lotmore of it normally. I think,
uh I would up like I thinkI would have, even in this altitude
where airs such a factor and playsin the high tuna. I think I
went up six jet sizes when Iput my Barracuda on e eighty five compared
to gas on the carburetor. Nowit's a it's a holly set up.
But I went up, like Iwent from like a seventy six, like

(39:51):
an eighty two or something like that. It's five hundred keeping. I went
up significantly to compare to what whereI would be on a on a gas
set up. You don't want apremium fuel out here set up? Oh
yeah, about twenty seven atmosphere twentyseven to thirty percent more fuel flow for
eighty five and like your car youralcohol, you know, messing all based

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super beat. Yeah, that thingis one hundred and fifty percent more on
top of it. I mean that'swell fuel per run. It's gonna be
it's gonna be fun watching that thingget wrapped up and fired up here shortly.
Yeah, excited about that. Man. My brother has my super be
out of his tuny shop and thiscar. Man, I don't know how

(40:34):
the people out there feel about it, but this is one bad ass car,
man, this car is I'll handit to U. Sean Kennedy.
He built just an ungodly raced carlike this thing ought to be to be
able, honest, Scott, whenyou look at the caast, you look
at the car, how it's built. This thing you ought to be able
to hit it with thirty five hundredhorsepower and it take it and this thing
straight. Have I seen this onlya pictures? I think it's not like

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some of them will roll up herein the bitch is on alcohol. So
it's not it's not a driver,it's a racer. It is. That
car is going to be wicked,wicked fast. Yeah. So we've done
some initial kind of base tuning fileon it. You know, like what
I would normally call a bench teamon it just to get it fired up

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and still testing on a on anew coal But uh, my brother there
put a really wicked system in ata Holly Dominator system. So I was
running through some screen setups for himand made him like a scramble button and
uh, you know, whites andblinkers all through this digital screen that he's
got. So screen you grab ahold of different things, how mady some
different backgrounds for it. So it'sgonna be cool. He's I think,

(41:45):
really gonna like it. So whenyou're talking about a system like this,
nowadays people can buy these, youknow. Later today I'm doing a sniper
system, different annual throttle body typeset up and you get a handheld tinor
and that's where people a lot oftimes start out with when it comes to
tuning cars. Now nowadays, HollyFi Tech, if you other companies had

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these, you know these setups thatlook similar to a carburetor. It mounts
right where a carburetor does. Ithas some of the linkage to it,
but it's a fairly robust fuel injectionsystem. When you agree, oh absolutely
that they're honestly terrific. If you'restill looking for the old school look of
a carburetor, but the modern dayefficiency and ease of use of a because

(42:28):
you know, carburetors you gotta resetperiodically, you gotta win a win,
and you take them in the summer. You don't have to do that with
fuel injection, and it still givesyou that old field look of a carburetor.
But they work great. We doa lot of them. The Sniper
and the Sneiper versions two are probablythe most popular systems around. How Tech's
got one similar to it as well. But they're you know, they're honestly
fantastic. You set air fuels.Their Wizard Functions does a lot of stuff

(42:52):
on that self tuning. Yeah,that self tuning stuff, That Wizards stuff
is amazing because I remember early onthe first to adapters, you would have
to put in a lot more youknow, parameters, and that learning curve
wasn't nearly as fast and as efficientas it is right now. You you
know, you'd have it and setit up. Used to be driving a

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day day and a half later.The thing would have rough idols, rough
starts and whatnots. Still learning,still learning, But nowadays, man,
they've you know, they've added alot more, you know, just technology
in it, the learning curve,it's ability, it's self tune and learn
much quicker nowadays. And that's importantbecause a lot of people get these these
setups and they forget about the altitudeissue we have out here. My you

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know, like my house, myhouse is sitting you know, seven thousand
feet, man, that's significant,seventy you know, sixty eight hundred and
seventy feet whatever it is, like, it's significant. And that plays hell
because most of these setups tend tobe a little heavy on the fuel and
overfuel initially because that's just safer,right. Oh, absolutely, the default
for a sniper set up out ofthe box when you use the wizard to

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thirteen point five to one air fuelratio, which is really fat here with
with the atmosphere let alone, ifyou do a wizard function up there in
Colorado where you're you know, amile plus up, you know, alchemy
wise, so you've got to tweakthat stuff and make sure it works for
where you're at. But once youset the baseline and go through the Wizard,

(44:19):
it's about six questions on that wizardthen it lets you into it gets
the thing alive. And kicking.You know, you can start the car,
you can generally do some some idlefunctionality with it. Then it doesn't
take long at all for that learningfeature to build you a decent fuel map
and air fuel curve and a sparkmap. I mean, some of that
stuff is just great right out ofthe box. And they've done a lot
of research on that. So I'ma proponent of the Holly systems and again

(44:44):
some of the Hawtech systems. There'ssome Acius systems. There's a lot of
these office shelf systems that work reallygood these days. Yeah, man,
And as a guy who's you know, been tuning these for not long time,
that technology and the ability to getin there and really real you know,
you could dial in per cylinder andyou could dial in you know,
through the RPM ramp and through theboost ramp. It's amazing how much more

(45:07):
you can get out of it,or at least you had the capability of
really fine tuning your car throughout.You know, all that power under the
curve, you know, it's it'sall there for you to take advantage of.
Yeah. Absolutely so. My buddyRob Wilson, who's a big Grand
National guy on his grand half andhe runs. He runs a high seven

(45:28):
in a quarter mile, low eightand a quarter mile in a six cylinder
Grand National setup. He's got adominator system, a seventh Wait you say
it's a low seven second quarter mile, high seven second quarter mile behind seven
eight in a six cylinder. Yeah, and this is a full body car,

(45:50):
full interior, you know everything else. I mean it is. You
could drive this thing on the streetif you wanted to. But so he
has Egt's exhaust gas temperatures on thereevery cylinder so that the domain in air
can go and look as you're doinga pool, as you're doing a race,
every cylinder as it's going down thetrack, it can monitor, it
can adjust so stealing camps. Ithas safety features on a personinder. Basis

(46:13):
a lot of cool technology that's outthere today in some of these systems where
you basically just sit back and youknow, drink your soda pop and drive
down the quarter mile while the carand the computer system does everything for you.
It's really cool. Well man,that ability is too. It's so
different now. And what really iscool is it's fairly I say easy,

(46:36):
you know, I say that withair quotes, but at the same time,
fairly easy to tap into and youknow, get the most out of
all the effort of your engine asfar as performance goes. Yeah, it
really is. I mean the systemstoday makes things just where the average user
has all the benefits and features andfunctions of modern day technology and whatever race

(46:58):
platform that they're working with. Ifif, maybe these systems will attach to
anything and let them, let themreally reach their full potential. If people
are doing an ls WOP on anorder you know me, I got a
I got that white ta trying toget through an ls WOP now. And
uh, for people like us,if they don't have, if they don't

(47:19):
have say, uh you know computer, maybe they you know, just LS
just fail in their laugh. Hejust woke up the LS ferry dropped a
crate off of the front portion.Uh. The only problem is it's complete
intake, the oil pen, exhaust, headers and all. But there's not
a wire on it, not acomputer with it. How do people start
out trying to fix that hurdle andor get through that scenario? Because nowadays

(47:44):
that computer and what that computer isis feeding everything is crucial. It's critical.
That's the go to part. It'slike the distributor on your your old
card, right, So it reallydepends if they want to go with a
factory based wiring harness and a factorybased computer. It does you know,
the factory GM computer has a lotof flexibility to it can do a lot

(48:07):
of functionality and features for the enduser, the driver. But if they
really want to get into what Iconsider the true benefits of fuel injection,
the aftermarket systems are the way togo. I mean, you can buy
a complete drop in system from Hollylike their Terminator line, or from haw
Tech with the how Tech Rebel actuallybuilt some of the hal Tech Rebel fuel

(48:30):
maps off Jackson's BMW the one thirtyfive with that turbols platform that we did
so some of those maps. Andthe one thing that I say how Tech
has above the Holly is when youneed help. If you know, let's
say, bro, you're out thereworking one of your cars and you're like,
man, I got this thing isjust not doing what I expect to
do. If you want to callme up and say, hey, can

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you take a look at this,the how Tech Rebel system allows them to
remote in just that computer that laptopnative in the software, so they don't.
They don't have to run any thirdparty system. The how tech allows
them to remote control into that vehicle, into that laptop, connect up to
it, and really dial in thattune with a professional tuner if it's needed.

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And if I built into the hightech Rebel platform, what significant for
a lot of people that don't necessarilyknow how to go to that next level
or what their car may be doing, and to have how to have you
know, a hal tech dude therejust looking over everything as here's your problem.
Like I sent my brother one timethe screenshot or something my kamara was
doing. He's like, oh,well, there's your problem right there.

(49:37):
Boom, And I was just soldon the graph and you know we were
able to isolate. Okay, nowI can attack that issue. So it's
interesting how, you know, howthe technology that's out there, especially with
somebody that can read it and interpretit, you know, as quickly as
somebody like yourself or the HOWT techperson, how they could fix you know

(49:58):
quickly any issue us you're having outthere and get you back on the racetrack.
A SAP absolutely, I mean,little things like a map sensor can
throw off an entire fueling model ona car. So if something happens to
your map sensor in a car,you go to the local you know,
auto park store, you pick oneup, you put it in. It
can have a different scaling model thanwhat's in the car to begin with,

(50:21):
and to be able to quickly justturn the keyon, don't don't start to
end and turn the keyon. Lookat just a sensor data with the engine
off but the keyon and electricity kindof flowing and getting some speedback into those
sensors. You can quickly tell,Okay, well there's something wrong with this
map sensor. It's scaling is off, so it's going to change the fuel
curve for the car. You know, it's little things like that that you

(50:42):
have to be cognizant of. Youknow, when you're when you're especially building
a kind of a new ride thathasn't been fired up, or something that
deviates from a factory set up.You know, you're doing engine swaps into
old platforms. Some of theres thatyou you know, you just need to
be aware of what they're doing.So it's easy to tell when you know
what you're looking for right right,and you know when you're thinking about these

(51:06):
particular setups that handheld again is agreat way to start. You put in
your parameters, you get a basetuned does help you in that self learning
curve to you know, get youat least started out. But it's always
good, you know, then toput your system on you know, like
a dinos something like you have andreally let somebody who can fine tune in

(51:27):
tweak it to get all the powerthat you want to get out of it,
because there's there's a lot there.People don't realize just from the factory
how much is left on the table. And when you go in and start
you know, pulling out, theypull out so much timing during a shift
and so much spark during a shift, and all these margins are left in
play because the end user for mostof these platforms want a smooth shifting car.

(51:51):
They don't want something it's like everytime I get the second gear or
you know it's a little aggressive runsup in RPMs before it you know it
hits a shift point. And soso all these margins are in there to
make the ride more enjoyable and morecomfortable for the you know, the original
end user. But when you getyou know, really dialing up this engine
and you know, talking performance,dude, those margins are there for the

(52:15):
taking and you can make it.It's it's wild how fast you can beef
up at ls, especially with factoryyou know, in this factory dressings.
Those things are you know, they'relegit. You didn't get a you know,
well, you know what's you know, just the factory ls. What
can you pull out of them nowadays? Just in tunes, bolt ons and

(52:36):
more, and we'll trade a littlebit of that smoothness for the more horsepower.
Yeah. Absolutely, And honestly,the factory tune is fairly rich,
fairly fat from from the factory againjust to yeah, you know, locations,
atmosphere levels, everything else. Butnormally you'll see on a five three,

(52:57):
you'll pick up right at thirty thirtytwo horse power two or three miles
to the gallon and about thirty fivepounds of torque just just off the factory.
Even some of the newer engines,that LT style engines you'll pick up,
especially if it's like a six totwo, when those sixty two and
hpet combinations, you can pick upalmost forty horse power just off the factory

(53:17):
base tune on those things. Wow, and I got to give a shout
out to Dodge, because Dodges whatmy brother is, my flesh and blood.
I love this. I gotta givea shout out to Dodge. They
those transmissions that eight and tenth freeset up, they really handicapped those things

(53:38):
from a factory configuration. I meanthey pulled so much torque and power out
of it on shifts, and theylet a lot of slip in there just
to give it that smooth, comfortablefeel. But man, with a little
tune and adjustment on the settings onboth the transmission side and the engine sides
of those Dodges, you can pickup just stupid of power on a baseline

(54:01):
hemming engines. You're talking forty tofifty sixty horse power. You can watch
some of the healthcats. You canpick up one hundred hundred and twenty horse
power off a factory tune, justfreaking dude. Yeah, just by tweaking
it so just I mean not putting, not putting a bolt on thing on
it. This is just getting nonein your laptop and changing parameters and margins

(54:25):
and taking some of that stuff theyleave on the table out. And what's
what's even crazier is if you justare concerned as to the overall health of
your transmission. For example, itlikes higher line pressure, It likes harder
shifts much more than the slippage.It hates the slippage, like that's terrible
for it. Yep, and thedots. You know, being a doge,

(54:46):
they do everything a little bit backwardsand their tables are inverse. So
they'll tell you, hey, we'regoing to pull this much power out of
it, and they're sitting there whenyou look at it, they're pulling you
know, two hundred and three hundredfoot pounds of torque out of it on
a heavy shift on a high youknow rpm, high throttle, high load.
Shit, that's crazy. And you'relike, well, I'm just gonna

(55:07):
cut this down to seventy five percentor fifty percent of what's in the factory.
Oh, and it makes it anentirely different animal, entirely different animal.
And that's not changing the horse power. That's simply manipulating the power you
have already there in a way thatprovides you, you know, more of
the rich and robust fuel. Youknow, that fuel curve, that mapping

(55:29):
of where that power is made at. You know, you gotta imagine as
much as they're cutting and taking awayfrom it. God, it raises that
RPM, the ship points. Iimagine that car just wakes up so much
more so than what it is fromthe factory when you just remove those those
parameters, those governors on all theshifts, red points and so forth.

(55:52):
Yeah, and just a little camto it you can throw like a BTR.
Brian Tilley Racing now makes a truckNorse style cam for those five seven
himmis so you can get you knowagain, factory versus factory can versus aftermarket
cam. You can put one ofthose little truck Norse cams in there,
not an aggressive cam, it's nothard on parts or anything else, and

(56:14):
pick up just above and beyond thethirty forty to fifty horse power you get
from a tune. So one ofthose things in and you're talking now one
hundred and seven, one hundred andten horsepower in addition to what your tune
provided, you can wake any ofthose things up. Those dogs one hundred
and ten on top of the thirtyto forty you put on it with a

(56:34):
two. So you look at thatone hundred and fifty horse power plus with
a cam swap and a tune yeah, shut up, man, it's pretty
darn and pressive. I mean,I give them a lot of credit.
They've done well in those platforms.Now, have you guys done that's a
that's a five to seven, that'sa that's the that's a small one,
that's the seven. Yeah, youcan do it five to seven, the

(56:58):
six forwards. I mean, there'sall kind of them that work well with
it pick up quite as much,but they'll pick up darn close to that.
Well. The six to four pickup much more than that. I
mean probably you know, again,replacement for displacement here that you know,
there's no replacement, sure, becausethey're they're a little bit bigger engine.

(57:22):
But honestly, I like the fivesevens, the five sevens. I've got
three Dodge rams here you know,on property right now that have had camuswaps
them tuned. They do good.I mean, they really do. They's
kind of the next up and comingwhat I would call the LS. Now,
there is a challenge with them though, Dodge. For some reason,
Dodge they make it a little bitmore get access. Yeah, to get

(57:46):
access to the ECUs you got tosend them off. You gotta get an
unlocked service. They're a little tighteron what you can do without actually taking
the computer out. And if it'sseventeen and up, you have to send
that computer off to to HP tunersand get them to mess with it to
break it. Huh interesting, Soif it's seventeen and up, you have

(58:09):
to do that extra layer. However, if it's a that what's crazy is
that's just kind of the the ascendof the the HMMI too, those first
generations, the and the six ones, and maybe some of the some of
the bigger ones. But really ifit's twenty seventeen, if it's pre twenty

(58:30):
seventeen, like at twenty fifteen,you've not even got into some of the
better hmmis yet. So that's interestingto find that much power in some of
the older five sevens, meaning thatprobably more power out of some of the
newer ones. Once you're able tobreak into a three ninety two, for
example, you know those scat packsand those SRTs that are so common out

(58:51):
there, imagine they they're leaving alot on the table as well. That's
a pretty fast car because it's alreadyin that thing already like four hundred and
fifty or know what the rear tirejust from the factory. They're they're up
there. I forget and I don'tknow the horsepower numbers off the top of
my head for them. But Ialways do baseline pools, you know,
the first pool in the Dino willbe Hey, I'm not touching this thing.

(59:14):
I just want to do a baselinepool. See how the car does
on the Dino. Make sure everything'ssafe, stable, I'm not getting weird
codes, no vibrations, that kindof thing. So I'll do that first
and establish a baseline, and theneverything I'll do, I'll do it,
you know, real methodically and say, Okay, I'm gonna do a pool
with you know, three or fourchanges to the tune and then save it.
Then do another pool. And ifI'm not working my way up,

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if it's you know, horsepower andtorch not increasing with every every pool,
then I know to you know,kind of see what happened to it and
what's going on. So I tryto approach it as methodical as possible.
All right, man, can youhang through the break? Couple more questions
on it. Tuning nowadays compared totuning of yesterday, but you have a
little bit of a surprise to goingon the Dino later. We'll take a

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couple of guesses as to how that'sgoing to break out. Uh, whether
you're tuning in that last week,you're tuning in, you know a new
Hitmy we're leaving one category off thetable. I'm not sure why, but
maybe we'll come back and I dothrow up talk forward. I'm just kidding
forward. People shut up, allright, it's Willy Be's garage. Just
wanted to seve a nine KVPI Willyb'sgarage. Welcome to the Sino Show.

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Sino Show and start listening. Feelback in Willyb's garage. Did we just
want to have a hasn't it fora casino podcast? Like damn? You
listen to a casino that seems likethey'd be terrible. I think that's what
his name was. Okay, theguy's name was Casino sounded. We had

(01:01:14):
a story yesterday about a couple thatnamed their kid Anally. What yeah,
yeah, welcome their world Anally andhad her weight And I'm like, it's
not supposed to be done that way. It's been in the southern part of
the United States. What you're sayingwhat I'm just asking Believe it or not.

(01:01:37):
It was in Michigan. Okay,there you go. What racist?
These racist it's supposed to be anyspelled it though, was inappropriate? Okay,
I got you all right now thatmakes sense. Handy a little bit

(01:01:58):
of information there, hey, inlike I think a N N A L
L Y or a N A LL Y late like straight up anally?
Uh? Anyway? Uh well,speaking of anally? Uh. Ford came
up before we went to break one. We could joke, we could joke.

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So, okay, this pays meto say Ford they suck. No
Ford. Ford has a honest God, that little stupid coyote enginees legit.
I've seen I've seen those with athree point zero whipple on there making like
twelve hundo and not even flex anddoing so. I mean it was a

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GT. Bly of GT. There'sa flat cran, flat plane crank block
and had outs and bells and whistleson it. But that engine is only
three hundred and two cubic inches,y'all. And even with a stroker they
get three fourteen three eighteens you knowsomewhere that ball. But they're nothing.
They're tiny, but they don't haveany vouch which allows you to just spin
the everlasting poop out of them.And they know they go on the road

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course tracks as well. Can wejust all, can we just agree though
Mustangs have the worst sound of anycar out there. They sound like somebody
with a horrible gas. Somebody's gotlike I gotta say, the old school,
old school thing back, you know, eighties and nineties, you know,

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Mustang fabos were some of the bestsound in. These new Mustangs sound
like the new Shelby. Shelby.They sound good. Yeah we're not talking
Shelbies. We're talking to normal whateverJoe Blow got out here in his little
Mustang GT that makes all that racketbut doesn't go anywhere. They all sound
like like some like large mammal likehurling some kind of like I don't know,

(01:03:55):
feta cheese, alfredo gone wrong dinner. Like. They sound terrible.
Yeah, and don't get me startedon the new ones. What the new
ones sound rough? I mean theysound terrible. Oh yeah, I don't
know why they're so loud. Yeah. I like the older you know,

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the fox body muss things back inthe day. Yeah, they sounded wicked.
Man, they did cool. Yeah, they sounded good. Some old
magna flows under there. For whateverreason, they sounded really good in their
car. Uh anyway, that threeh two. Honestly, God, when
you remove the vowel train and youyou take out you know, push rods,
man, it allows you. Peopledon't realize what push rods are doing

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at eight thousand rpm. Man,they look like licorice. Y'all. I've
seen crazy video of this NASCAR motorand you wouldn't believe inside internally what these
push rods with the springs, whatthat vowelchrain is doing at like nine thousand
rpm is maddening to watch. Andhow they stay together, it's just it's
a miracle, to be honest,But man, push rod well, honestly,

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God, there'll be waves moving throughthat metal. You know, crazy
high RPMs, push rides. Theyare a point of failure and limitation when
it comes to you know, ls'sand you know the Gen four himis and
things like that. When you removethat, you know, like they've done
in the Coyote, all of asudden, you get a whole nother range

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of rpm that doesn't the cable doingit and therefore allows you, you know,
move more air and that equates morepower. Yeah, that's that's true.
I mean, when you think aboutit, at eight thousand rpm,
the piston's going up and down onehundred and thirty three hundred and thirty four
times a second a second. Itmoves that fast. So shut up,

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god, wait, really hold onit. Eight yeah, eight thousand rpm
in a V eight that piston ismoving on one hundred thirty four times a
second. I mean, doesn't seemtough at all, right, And what
I can't even picture back. Damn, that's crazy. I mean I think

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I just did that map of myhead, so I think it's right.
But but I mean, certainly checkit. But yeah, eight thousand rotations
per minute divided about sixty seconds andshould give you, you know, roughly
one hundred and thirty three times asecond. So that's insane. So when
you're when you're looking at it,this engine, this sort of blueprint,

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it does allow some of these Mustangsto rip, especially when you start shoving
air. It's one thing you knowto do it in a it's another thing
when you start boosting these little guys, because you know air and the ability
to move it and move it fastmakes all the difference in the world.
It really does. And these headscan move some air. Man, they

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are good at it. Yeah,they're have to dag on engine, but
absolutely so. Then you stick alittle whipple, which for some reason,
Ford and Whipples have a have aheck of a partnership. Yeah, do
a lot of it from Ralph andwhatnot. But you stick a little supercharger
on top of those things that movesmore air, and man, they make
a powerful combination act. They hada little truck around here that a dealership

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was offering that was seven hundred andfifty horse power for like thirty eight thousand
dollars. It was a F onefifty stripped down, looked like an old
one of those that omera. Lookedlike a word truck, just the white
but it had whiter tires on it, a hopped up suspension package and it
was a straight up F one fiftysleeper, had a Whipple supercharger on it,

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all kinds of suspension and and youknow, computer assisted traction control.
And that sum bitch was like sevenseven I want to say, it was
like seven to seventy. Yeah,it's crazy what that package is. And
it was it was more than thirtyeight thousand. I'm gout, dude,
it was. So they have thewhite it's a roush truck. They had

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the white rat, the white Roushaddition with all the fancy spoilers and whatnot.
And then they have a other liketotal sleeper F one fifty package that
I mean, it's got all thebells and whistles, suspension, but it
looks it looks like a fleet truck. Yeah it's And it's also a damn

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cop truck around here too. Someof these cops have them, and some
of the cops have GT five hundredshere. Yes, I want an E
four seventy the other day a GT. Yeah, and in a state trooper
that's not right. I know whathappens when we don't have a drag facility
cops get attitudes and fast cars.When you're not even you're not even talking

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about the Godzilla. There's gonna beanother platform they're selling crazy create combos with
that. Godzilla is just a biggerLS. It's a four hundred and forty
keeping in LS. Yeah that's agood motor. Yeah that things will be
legit too. Stupid Godzilla anyway,all right, so later today, tell
everybody what you have coming in.So I have a really cool nineteen seventy

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Dodge Challenger with a HEMI in it, a factory all original setup HEMI powered.
You know, soon makes some goodpower. This guy, it's got
maybe thirty thousand miles on the cartotal. It's a it's a collector car.
Guys bringing it just wants to knowwhat kind of power it puts down.
So I'm like, all right,this is gonna be really sick.

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So do you know if it's across ram Hemi, if it's got two
fours on it, or it's justa single four barrel nineteen seventy four to
twenty six HEMI. I I don'tknow. I just know it's a hemy
I think it's a single carb setup. Okay, single carb for twenty six
HEMI probably you know, bone stock, so even stock exhaust and everything else.

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Yep, Okay, those were estimatedback in the day at four hundred
and twenty five horse power, andI believe that was I want to say
that was flywheel horsepower rating. Soobviously parasitic gloss through the drive train.
Somebody would guess, nan, No, the factory said four to twenty five.

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I know, parasit gloss seventeen twentypercent, Maybee. So you're looking
at that three you know, threefifty three, three fifty range, I
would say, give or take ten? Well, yeah, what do you
what do you think? What doyou think? Bro? I think it's
gonna so it's it's a little warmtoday, it's already eighty degrees, it's

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a little humid out so I thinkwith the air conditions you know currently out
here right now, it's going tomake three thirty to three forty What what
does humidity? How does humidity affectyou know, your air fuel ratios?
That's a good question. A lotof people don't necessarily know, because we're
always out here, humidity is nevera factor. However, if you go

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to sea level, if you gosomeplace, you know, Kentucky, you
know, even you know, yougo to Kansas or Florida. Yeah,
oh god, Florida horrible. Well, how does humidity play into the tuning
of your car and how do youtune against humidity? So humidity works a
little bit against you. The lowerthis humidity, So if your humidity outside

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is you know, sixty seventy percent, the lower it is, the more
oxygen that's available in the air thatyou're pulling into the chamber. The higher
humidity, if you get up eightypercent, like it's about to rain,
the less oxygen is in the air. So you want those kind of cooler
lower humidity days. So it goesfor the timper. The cooler the air

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is, the more dense that aircharge can be. The hotter it is,
the more that air is spread out. Right, when you add heat
to something that swells up much similarto air, that air gets a lot
less dent. So similar to that, right, humidity tends to have that
effect. Yeah. Interesting, Yeah, So higher higher humidity, you know,

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if you get higher yeah power,So on cool night, you know,
the less kind of water you havein the air, the cooler it
is, the better off you are. So yep. Interesting, So you
think it's going to take that much, almost one hundred horsepower off the off
the number that's a lot, Well, it's it's a I believe it's a
seven twenty seven tors like transmission.So that's a that's kind of a heavy

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transmission, big transmission move three speed, A lot of fluid in there,
man if stock converter, that bitchis holding a lot. So I think,
you know, most draft train lossesyou'll see twelve to fifteen on a
you know, on a on adecent performing automatic. I think that sevens
are going to take about seventeen percent. Yeah, that's the whole thing.

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I think those seven twenty seven aremore like you know that seventeen to twenty
percent range. Yeah, so Ithink you'll see that at place. So
I'm gonna say, and honestly,my Dino is a little stingy. So,
yeah, what kind of diyno doyou have? Talking Mustang Dino?
It's an MD five hundred XL.So do people cry when they put their

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car on their Dino and then numbershalf of what they think it should have
been. It's funny. You'll getpeople in here that are expecting some serious
all this thing's gonna make five hundredhorse power? You remember, like an
old school Mustang when I first gotit, came in and he's he's a
friend of mine. He's like,a it should put down like four point

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fifty five hundred horse power. Andmy girl Amy was was sitting here,
and she kind of she did notlet it. So she kind of,
you know, did that chuckle andlaugh saying, ended up putting down like
two eighty two dollars. Whoa aheartbreaker for the guy. I was like,

(01:14:03):
bro, that's not gonna put downfive hundred. You may think it
is, oh, and that justruins the guy. Dude leaves that point
and he's like, who's gonna sellit? Let's go sell it? Like
that's not even like you can't evenwork with two eighty, Like you can't
even like that's not even a goodenough ground game to start out with nowadays
in the hot riding world. Didhe did he think it felt like five

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hundred? Always, dude, that'sthe that's the thing. He made like
three or so, So it wasyou know, those old school Mustangs are
great about frying tires. Three seventythree gear you five speed transmission, I
get three gears, bitch, I'llget three gears. Watch get passed by,

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get passed by, Ki Stinger.You got drug back North Korean car
all right. So look when itcomes to when it comes to making power
now days, obviously, you knowit's great to have all of these dinos
and see what his numbers at mostcars, just just on an average.

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This is funny comparison because back inthe day, a legit four to five
hundred number was pretty significant. Thatwas if you rolled into a you know,
into a the cars and coffee ora late night meetup and you had,
you know, four fifty to fivefifty at the rear tire, I
would say you were a fairly fastcar. You would looked at as a

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fast car. Now now that wasyou know, that's that's two thousand.
That's up to you to take thatup to two thousand, two thousand and
three, two thousand and four.You know, I'd say if you had
five hundred, you know, intwo thousand and four, two thousand and
five, even you were still ayou know, your respected car, like
damn, that's pretty fast for eventhe street meetups and where you would expect

(01:15:54):
to see performance cars. Right,bro, what do you see on the
average, just on the average,now, like not talking, you know,
on any side of it. Youjust mentioned a low end obviously,
but on the each side of it, you're gonna have you know, the
high end guys for sure. Butwhere where do most people settle out at?

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And regardless of brand loyalty, where'sthe average if you had to put
a mean on it, what's theaverage number off your Dino in Kentucky?
This is eastern Kentucky. I justwant to point up the car game there.
Yeah, the car game here isnuts first off, So I mean,
but I honestly I tuned more trucksthan anything. But it's the car.

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And I've had some seven under horsepower naturally aspirated trucks on the Dino.
But I'll say four cars and I'mgonna get have an Asia, Yeah,
a Chevy Silverado. The dude thatput a four to twenty seven LS
in it, you know, fabricatednine inserer end everything else, anything made

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almost it was like six thirty sixforty seventy two PM in a trunk,
I mean, had old school wheelson it. Everything else. You'd line
up to this thing. Other thanthe way it was chopping wood at idle
you never know what was in it. A naturally asp rated pickup truck and
it made what seven almost seven hundred, almost seven hundred, God at the

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tire, at the tire, naturallyaspray like nothing but an LS in there?
Yep, nothing wow d that isa big effie number for in a
car. But the but the idolgave it away, didn't it. Oh,
the I was just you know,it was chopping wood. Man.

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It was like, oh, oh, this is not your ordinary Grandpa pickup.
No, yeah, yeah, youlook at her. It's got like
some you know, yeah, bigladder bars, set ups or a four
leak slightly system or something under it. You know, you're like, oh
what you got under there? Soall right, but I would say naturally
aspirated if you could have, youknow, four fifty to five hundred is

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about an average naturally aspirated car,four fifty to five hundred. Right.
Most people around here nowadays are runningsome sort of you know, some sort
of power adder, and most ofthem are a lot of turbos and a
lot of factory superchargers, a lotof LSAs. So I'm gonna say naturally

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aspirated four fifty five is the mostcommon boosted. You're gonna see seven fifty
to eight hundred almost everywhere you go. Isn't that a scene? Like eight
hundred at the rear tire? Youguys, is such a fast car.
It is so stupid fast. Peoplehave no idea. People talk about like,

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you know, oh, thousand norsepower. Man, you can't drive
a thousand norths powder on the caror on the street. People, most
people would lose their ass. Yeah, I mean, yeah you can't.
But here's what I would tell you. Sure, even the most righteous driver
could probably drive. Yeah, youcan drive a thousand horsepower car on the

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street, but most people will befaster in a six or seven hundred horse
power car, especially agree especially onthe root words. Yeah, yeah,
just you know out on the street. After that, no prep drag race
stuff is big here still, sothat there's a lot of people that try
to do these no prep races oneight hundred nine hundred horse power and only

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thing they're doing is spinning, right, is not so exactly? You can
get a five fifty to six fiftyto hook in a lot of ways easier,
you know, way easier than youcan some of these eight nine hundred
horse power cars now prep surface,yeah, give me more power. But
some of these non prep you know, the road on a Saturday night,

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a couple of guys, you know, just lining them up and running them
off. The five fifties, sixto fifty seven cars are going to do
a little better there unless you gota really good driver. Now, let's
some drivers around here that man,then they can drive whatever you stick underneath
it, and then they can makeit work. Sure, But you know
when you're just out, you know, rolling the streets picking fights a lot

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of times, man right around that, you know, right around that six
fifty to eight hundred number at therear tires depending on the setup, and
you know where your tor curve is, and one of the numbers really play
and live at. You know,that tends to be, you know,
as much as you can get outof a car on the street without you
know, obviously, you know,there's the guys, like I've done so
many times. You know, yougot a nice street, lay down some

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stripes, you you back over yourstripes, put down some tire prep haze
him again, you know, andmake your lick and you guys rinse and
repeat, and all of a sudden. You got a mini drag strip launch,
We've done that, But I'm talkingof just being able to roll off,
you know, roll off a lineand there's a nasty Camaro Mustang challenge
or whatever that may be beside you, or know to hot rod street rode

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whatever, and you guys want toget down, dude. That's about all
there is to to get out ofa car nowadays on the street. And
you gotta you got a lot tohandle and doing that so well, and
a lot of people they skimp onthe tires. You know, you get
a five hundred Treadwaard tire and yougot horsepower, you got nothing? Oh
God forget. I can imagine there'sa lot of bakery racing still going on,

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you know, roll racing where youwhere you start off of like a
forty or fifty and you know,do a roll race that's up. And
that's for honestly, the modern daycars with the six eight ten street transmissions,
God, those things us so wellon roll races. It's just nuts
broke. I went ninety to oneninety my Buddy's Autie in less than three

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seconds, uh in a in aV ten twin turbo OUTI bros. The
fastest street car I've ever been in. But understand even at this out too,
this cat Sean, he'll when Vandamiris open, he would go there,
run like a low seven of seventeen'sright, and then drive it home
just to prove a point. Yeahthat's cool, that's stupid. Yeah,

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all we'll drive. They're like rollingaround with four drag radios. Just I
mean, I mean ballooned out tothe max. And you know he had
a hal Tech system on it,all this crazy management fuel system eight yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that V tenis god. It puts down some
big power when you're sending a lotof boots to it. The other I
mean, look the guy he justgot done paying off an eighty thousand dollars

(01:22:35):
transmission. So it tells you themoney behind it. But you got a
car run sevens and you could driveit to Vegas? Isn't that nuts?
Yeah? And it's all will driveyeah yeah, beautiful car. Well,
it's got all kinds of engine,the turbles hanging out of the back of
it. But it's awesome. It'ssick man. So, I mean,

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there are those upper echelon people outthere. However, those people out on
the street. You know, dude, the six to eight hundred cars right
where the you know, the battestof the bat are gonna live and be
dominant, you know, and reallyhave fun and you know what, and
fun factor. God, that's that'sso money. That's such a fun It's
such a fun area to live inbecause you won't find a lot that could

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handle you A and B if youknow how to wheel it. It is
just stupid smiles for miles. It'sjust there's nothing like I used to roll
in that Corvette when it was eighthundred and eighty three at the rear tire
and you could just smash it.I could just smash it four gear and
like watch this, and as soonas it would hit the boost, I
had a little bit of lag.As soon as it would get into the

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boost, it would just smash,obliviate the tires right off of it.
I wouldn't even have to hit thebrake. But if I did, if
I break boosted it and just letit go, I could leave. I
could leave one hundred foot stripe youknow stripes at a one hundred miles an
hour. I could just be like, what's this and leave stripe two stripes,
you know, at one hundred footlong at a hundred miles an hour,
and it was hilarious. And dude, I can't tell you the number

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of cars that are around this areathat have four digit power that are I
mean, the average is probably thatthat eight hundred mark, you know,
the lower boost setting, but thereis I can think of twelve to fifteen
guys just off the top of myhead, you know, within this areas
that are that are driving cars thatmake four digit power and not not like

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one thousand and fifty but like twelvethirteen, fifteen hundred horse powers driving them
around. That's the same, man, crazy world we're living in. But
that's what you need nowadays is togo spank Tesla's Yeah. Absolutely, I
mean you know they they're making ithard, all right man? Well great

(01:24:49):
catching up. People can see yourtuning in your dinal shot where just hop
on Facebook and look at Warlock Warlock. I know, yeah, Warlock,
Dino and tuning. Oh we're likedining and tuning, all right, Yeah,

(01:25:10):
okay, we're like Dino and tuning. My buddy Louis he wants to
chime in on the four to twentysixth Ami Challenger Uh, he's not automatic,
so he's guessing a little high ofit. He's like, ah,
those things were under Now remember theydid underrate those those that number for insurance

(01:25:30):
purposes. But you know, takingback this automatic, he builds them seven
twenty seven a lot too. He'slike, all right, I'm gonna he's
gonna put down three sixty five andsay it's a high number because the automatical.
Still he's guessing three sixty five.All right, we'll find out two
o'clock when he gets here. Allright, man anxious to uh to hear
let us know. We gotta takea break. One more person to catch

(01:25:53):
up with. Next, Joe Barry, Joe Berry Motorsports. He's got Steel
City. We'll talk about that ina second. Tilly Be's garage. That's
my brother. He's awesome. WarlockDinah and tuney and check him out online
and give him a follow. Checkout some cool rides. He's doing more
power, more tuning. That's allit is nowadays. Back out of the
break, Tilly Be's garage on BPI, Willy Be's garage. You're back in

(01:26:20):
Willyb's garage. So seven nine kppI will be his garage. Welcome to
it, the one the only fanfair. Joe Berry, Joe Berry Motorsports,
George's Show. Now, Joe Berry, what up a man? How's life?
How you been? I'm good,I'm good. Just living life,

(01:26:43):
you know, Yeah, as wetend to do because the other option sucks.
So Joe Man, tell us whatyou got going on with Steele's City.
This is gonna be a blast,It's gonna be wicked. Explain what's
happen for people up here on thenorth side who may not be aware what
you all got going on down onthe south. Well, what we have

(01:27:06):
going at the Pueblo Track, it'sback of that track, no prep racing,
So basically we have a racetrack setup at the end of the track,
racing towards the finish line, noprep, dumn and mimics something like

(01:27:26):
what they used to see at bandof Mere. No prep kings right with
small tire cars. Okay, soare we talking eighth mile? And how's
the runout? Give us a littlebit of details on that. And when
you say you know, no prep, that means we gets a little slick
out there. So really, youknow tires, you know they matter so

(01:27:48):
significantly. Ass and stuff like this, and your suspension. You have to
not overpower the track. That's alwaysa dialing in of you know, your
power, how you apply it,how far you can carry it. You
know. Uh, for a lotof people, it's just managing booze or
you know, turning things down alittle bit on your progressing con stroulers.
You're still eating nitrous whatever it maybe. It adds a little leveling to

(01:28:12):
the playing field so that you're justnot getting you know, out shocked meeting
the guy with a bigger budget.You know, it doesn't always win this.
It could be you know, itcould be a guy with you know,
uh, there's a badass set up. Is maybe underpower compared to you
know a lot of guys in theupper echelon of the fast cars. Yeah.

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Absolutely, And I think that's thehardest thing that folks can grasp is
it doesn't take a million dollars,you know, some fancy race car to
get down this surface. It's theguy that can power, manage and set
up his car the right way.I mean, we watch cars upset all

(01:28:55):
the time. I mean, II love watching a race car pull up
to the line. You know he'sgonna get gapped by the guy that built
the part in his garage. Iremember when I got I pulled. It
was a green light raised that Donnieput on back of the day and my
damn sixty nine charge to beat TrentDiaz, and I was like, I'm
gonna get so smoke because I gotlike nine hundred horsebower he had a couple
of thousand. I'm like, I'mgonna get eating a live you know what.

(01:29:16):
That was my day because he blewthe tires off and guess what,
I hooked and I was like,get out. But it is one of
those things you never know what's gonnahappen when his heads up. You never
know who's gonna mess up, who'sgonna be a little too aggressive. A
lot of it comes down to thedriver and how they put and plant that
power. But that's that's what's sogreat about something like this is everybody's got

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a chance, and you really gotto understand and know your machine, your
equipment, because you know you're leaningon it. When when you do have
tracks and you're feeding it, man, you're letting that sucker eat correct And
it's it's definitely obviously as the eveningsgo on, the track does come around.
We only allow water burnounce, sowe're not getting a bunch of glue

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on the track. After the waterand water only flashlights start. I start
everyone nice, and it's a quartermile right, No, it is an
eighth mile road and we have sixteenhundred and sixty feet up shutdown. Folks
were concerned. They said, oh, there's no way you can do that.

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They assume we are going to runtowards the starting line. Well,
that is so unsafe because tracks aredesigned for cars to be going one way.
You don't run them back the wrongway. So Donnie and Dave Gagor
went out, measured everything out,and sixteen hundred feet is more than enough
to shut these cars down. It'swe've had some very fast cars on the

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track and we haven't had any issuesregarding that. You know, obviously there's
equipment failure and things like that,but in regards to cars being able to
stop at speed, there's no issue. So give us the ins and out.
When is it? How do peopleget plugged into it? Are you
still allowing people get signed up?Tell us about the tire restrictions and whatnot.

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Okay, it's still city. Theycan find us on Facebook for Still
City, No Prep race. It'sin Pueblo. Our next race is the
twenty seventh, which is next Saturday. It is an evening race. We
Donnie allows the It is open registrationthrough Friday night. The great part about

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if you pre register, Donnie providesfree passes starting line passes, which I
believe on race they are thirty fivedollars apiece. So if you're pre registered,
you get these free passes, andthat's a good incentive. Yeah,
man, as racing goes, that'ssmart. That's a good way to get
Yeah, because that's always a challenge, that's always challenged. Can people to

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sign up and get there early ifyou know, you don't know what's gonna
show up or who's gonna show up, but get a pre register to get
up start line pass. You needthat. Everybody's gonna get that day of
so better to get signed up early, you know, and get those covered.
And we really stress it because obviouslywe want to see what we're gonna
have for race day, and youknow, it gives back to the racer's

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crew and spectators. You know thatmay be helping want a person with their
car or multiple cars to get downon their starting line and see the action,
you know, right there close enoughto touch the car? Really Yeah,
yeah, slick man, that's acool little event. Uh again,
it's next Saturday, you said,yes, their next Saturday? When,

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uh, when is everybody expected toshow up? And obviously I think he's
gonna open that up for for everybodycome and check out. When's the best
time to get there? When's thebest time? Uh, maybe make a
hit on the car. I'm surethere's uh some times to uh to make
a lick or two on the carto get it all set up before you
guys pair up. And how manypeople are you expecting? Generally speaking,

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we have, I mean we've hadupwards of over one hundred plus cars for
the four categories. We gates openat noon. For the racers, we
do a drive roughly two to twothirty. For the one of the street
or the two street car classes smallDollar and Grocery Getter, we may we

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do have them do a drive toprove that they are street What give us
the breakdown to those classes? Grocerygetter, what's that? Grocery getter is
basically your your grocerygeter, your everydaydriver. It's it's what you drive to
work every day. We don't thatclass. If you have a roll cage,

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you're not getting in that class becausewe want true grocery getters, not
some guy that can mask his racecar because you know, he says he
drove it once to work last year. It's a really good class, I
mean, and there's true just youknow, and it's a lot of late
model cars because of the technology wehave these days, right right, Yeah,
imagine load dollar is a fit betweengrocery getter and the small tire where

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all the sharks are grocery getter.We have certain rules that for like beginners
when we're young and we're starting tobuild our cars, you know, and
we can both on parts and thingslike that. That that's that class.
And then we go to small tire, which is a twenty eight small tire.
Anything goes longs you have twenty eight'son it, you run it.

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And then we have unlimited which basicallyanything you want, any tire size,
any chassis whatever. Obviously it's gotto be a door car. We don't
want dragsters or roadsters and things likethat. But that's unlimited class. Nice
coolah one thing you mentioned and Iwant to make sure because this is a

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big deal with our race or therace in Pueblo. Is we there is
no practice, hits sweet so raw. So you show up at noon,
you don't get to make it tested. No test is and you run.
I mean and uh that's so thedraw how you drop because we chip draw.

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I mean it is potential. Youknow, if you got a fast
guy and a slow guy, thatfast guy may not have his act together.
That's the best time to take outthese fast guys. You know,
I watched the guys get all them. Oh I gotta raise so and so.
No, you've already lost if you'rein that mindset. Yeah, yeah
up there and and you know,make a run. But it's just and

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everybody knows if you got a fastcar, when it's gonna mess up is
right off the trailer. I knowwhat it is sometimes that you put your
car in the trailer and that's somebits his own point runs great, you
pull it out the next day.It's got some weird like ghost problem,
like where where does miss come from? Why all of a sudden the cylinder?
Why it's wild? Man? Youjust yay, you never know,

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You just never know? And canyou win it? Now money in this
Yeah, and you'll have to forgiveme because I don't know what the payouts
are. I can tell you thesmall tire because that is our elite group
of cars. I know last yearat our last rates, it paid seventy
five dollars to win at the lastrace. Now I know, I know

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this first race. I don't knowwhere it's at. It's seventy five hundred,
but I know it's it's up there. I can tell you it's more
money than the brackt guys will makemikeson on a weekend, I assure you.
And then one other thing I wantto make sure that everyone realizes is
when you go out and you lose, we allow grudg racing the whole night

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so you can come back, findyour buddy or whoever. It doesn't matter,
whoever. Guys you don't like,Let's go make a you know the
spend some money on it and goup there and make a hit. Hell
yeah, yeah, that's my bestcall out. Hey man, I love
that game. I gotta go forCome on down, pack your lunch and

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I will stand up there. Imean the entire time. If you guys
come up there, and you guyswant to go. I will be there.
I will make sure you go.It's a flashlights start, the flashlights
start. That's old school, that'scool. That's cool as hell. All
right. So again, how dothey get signed up? Just go to
the Still City Facebook page and youthere will be links in there to get

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you to the registration. Through outyour registration, put in your money,
and uh, you're good to go. Cool man said, this is the
first one. How many more ofthese you have? Well, we have
this one. There's a possibility we'regoing to do one in August if the
day's aligned, and then we haveone I leave the end of September beginning

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October. Dude, I got aI got a Hokle Bear the racing there
too, all right, blue bigguys holding my open because I do drive
my car on the street, andI mean there's come down and check it
out. I mean we got youknow, Uh, they've changed the food
menu there at Pueblo Motorsports Park.I mean they have a really good food

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and them menu that wasn't left before, you know. So if your spectators,
we have Matt Frost from Rocky MountainRace Week bringing his bus down there
to sell the parallel. It's justit's it's a cool deal. We I
mean, we've there's so many peopleinvolved. You know, I'm trying to
make this work and and not Ishouldn't say making it work. They are

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making it work, you know,and we just just want to support the
track. Yeah back there us too. We definitely want to want to cause,
you know, because that's uh,you know, come back. I
love Hey, I love sport racesand what they do. It's a communal
thing. It's and anytime we getpeople out there, more the better,
more the marrior love love. That'sgoing down. So check that out.

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Steal City jump on Facebook. StealCity on Facebook. That'll gets you the
links where it's at time and allthe actions steal City on Facebook. Man,
can't wait to uh check that out. Joe, thanks for the time,
brother, We love you, man, Thanks man, Thank you.
All right, take care buddy.There it is, Steel City. Yeah,

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that'd be fun. Man. Probablyhit that up on Public Motorsports Park
on p and I's a little dealtoo, way cool. What a race
that'd be. Oh man, Iwish my charger was on. I haven't
racing so long, miss it.God. All right, that's it for
today. Thank goodness, we aredone. We would go out playing our
rides. Mike Petterford, go forit services, go the number four its

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services tuning people up behind the wheelas well. Right, yeah, yeah
yeah, seven days a week,year round. Come on down. Look
if you want to go faster.Hey, he's a good way to do
it. Yeah, he really can'ttune you up. All right for Mike
pet for room. Will it beyou guys, have a blast. We'll
see you not next week but theweek following. All right, call it

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