Willie Bs Garage - Terry Fair and Vorshlag Motors

Willie Bs Garage - Terry Fair and Vorshlag Motors

Episode Transcript

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Garage. Willie Bees Garage is nowopening. Man, what is up?
Welcome to you guys with the Beesgarage food. It's been a minute,
all kinds of stuff. Catch upon all kinds of stuff too. I
don't know. Let's go there,man, fired up. We got Mike
Pedaphord up in the house with someMike house. Many car looks really clean

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for the weather we have out there. You know how some people show up
the work and they're like, damn, how your car looks so good because
it's just ice and sludge and crap, mud and everywhere, Like, how
do you? I mean, Iknow it's some miles to get here in
your cars just s in pinp mode. I'm like that man, it was
just so fast when you saw it, you couldn't see the dirt. That's
what it was. I saw apart cuz I was like, damn,

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how did you keep that thing soclean? I'm rolling up in here in
the mud trap. It's really notthat clean, but thank you. I'm
glad must color color. But youknow, a couple months back on the
dark road, so there's that.Yeah, yeah, I live. I
live in the city, buddy,I'm not out there in the hinter lands.
Like, Hey, like my buddies, you just call it hinterlands.

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You know what I call it?No emissions? Oh well yeah yeah yeah,
Now who won no emissions? Man, big time bonus. That's the
whole reason I shows that place.I'll have to register some cars with you.
Yeah, man, joined the pileof my friends. That's crazy.

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I've been getting my registrations in becausefor cars to Christmas, we get all
these these you know titles, andI have to go and I got one
more round. We got one moreround of cars and Christmas, we and
the guys be rich and working oncars. Uh. Today we got I
gotta tell you, we've got somenew tire equipment. Man, I'll tell
you how this this came back,just to say a little later the show.
If yo, if you're a BPIfamily member, hey, I got

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you covered on tires at least amountof balances and stuff. Man, I
got the coolest. Yeah, sojust set that aside. We'll come back
to that in just a minute.But dude, I'm stoked about some of
the tires stuff. However, whereit's kind of going, it's just see
now I've already forgotten. Oh wegot this dude, Terry Fairy joined the

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show here just a little bit,which I'm super stoked about from Vorsck Motorsports.
He's gonna be catching us up onstuff this Christmas slash holiday break for
a lot of people, and Christmasalways is it is sort of that coin
toss of you know, how muchof your gifts and gift related purchases can

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be you know, for your projectcar, race car, for your hot
ride or whatever, you know,and how much has to be dedicated to
you know, to the rest ofstuff. But man, oh man,
I know a lot of people gotsome toys back in the day when I
used to get carburetors for Christmas,unwrapped that and say yeah, we'll put

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this on the back. Then itwas in Chevy Vega. You know,
I just got a Vega, didyou really? Yeah? Seventy four really?
Yeah, manual tudor Vega? Yeahfor nothing? Well, I mean
not for nothing, I mean,but seven hundred bucks. Are you gonna

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put a V eight in it anddo all that? I'm thinking about?
So me and the guys were kindof throwing the idea around about dropping like
a five to three in it,Okay, putting some some steering in it
and giving it away, raffling itoff as a Willie b Foundation giveaway car.
Okay, all right, so it'sgot pretty cool patina, it's got

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you know, it's all busted andrusted, you know, like a Vega.
Ye, but it's you know,it's you know what's weird? Isn't
that that you're older cars used tojust clown hammer like you know, I
mean I still clown hammer a Pacer, don't get me wrong, But if
you roll up in like a comment, you know, I used to be
like that piece of jump Tech,remember an as Tech, a Pontiac as

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Tech. You can't get an ugliercar than that, though, I don't
know, I think that Pacer ispretty pretty. I don't know. So
I used to clown on some ofthose cars, but now you see them,
and you know what, the caris pretty cool. I don't know
what this dude I was. Iwas a Vega dude. I had a
couple of cause wors. I hadhad a world record in the drag race

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Cosworth Vega called gold Rush. Itwas pretty pretty badass for the time.
Yeah, they they're a wild carbecause you can put a pretty decent intinet.
Uh, and you get a lotof suspensions to slap on stuff out
there, so you don't let anybodymake a go card out of it.
We gotta take a break, we'llcome back. We'll have Terry on from
Vorkslog Motorsports. Dude, you wantto go fast around the track and this

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guy can you know, make thathappen. Well, a couple guys make
that happen. Honestly, Mike Campwill go for it. Uh, Terry
has been doing so much R andD. He has blown up this year,
man, Like this dude has beenjust he has exploded this year.
And we'll talk a little bit aboutwhat's going on and how much that world
is is becoming like kind of thehot ticket. So if you need your

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you know, your card punchs,maybe pay attention. There's some great,
you know, great ways to tuneup the car, regardless of the of
the platform. We believe the suspensionsout there and available nowadays and what they're
doing with them. Add that tosome knowledge of how to wheel that thing,
and man, you got a wickedcool combo. So we'll dive into
it here in just a second.It's what to beat his garage. Mike

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Pettiford me. That's the Willie bpart scoop behind the wheel. If you
can imagine that, WHOA, allright, we're gonna die. He's not
even looking. It's want of another KVP I Willybe's garage. You're back
in Willybee's garage. What up youall be his garage? Man spen a

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minute first garage show of twenty twentyfour, and we got some big ones
lined up. We're gonna be doingit from the colorade of Motorcycle Expo.
This canna be kind of cool.It's brought to you by our friends at
Writer Justice. A man Mike Pettiford, and I will be out there.
A lot of people don't know manMike Pediford. He is a bad man.
Not only the carbody knows. He'sa wheeler. And he runs a

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school, a driving school here calledGo for It Services. You can find
that with a letter the number fourGo for Its Services dot com schools CDLs
uh. How a wheel round thetrack? Man, he'll he'll bust your
balls at high planes. That's homecourt. So he better not show up
at that term of the attitude.But the man can wheel in a motorcycle

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too. Back in the day.I used to always see him at the
MRA events when when I was twistingthe grip racing rode bikes and stuff,
and the man can straight fly.I think I could out I think I
could out wheeliham though, well,you know what, I don't know,
man, I don't know really reallyalways thinks he can out whatever me until
we get to the actual place.Nah man, I knew for the fact

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that it wasn't gonna beat you atat the Central City Hill Climb, but
you got met. I wouldn't lotfast at what you thought. I said
that up there many Hey, dude, I believe in you. I never
doubt that you can go. Heyman, this dude just set a time.
We'll get Terry hanging there. Thisdude just set a time high planes

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in there in a Volkswagon scorching someporches. And I just want to tell
you he made so many rich peoplemad, and I gotta I gotta handed
to to my man Pedaphord for that. He pisces rich people off in a
Volkswagon and it's awesome. But meand me, no, Petterford the wheeled

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a lot, and uh, we'vealways had fun. No, you know,
I never wheeled against you, man, because you were in a different
class, homie. You were alittle faster class I was. I was
a b rider. Uh no,you were not, weren't you. Now
I made it. I made itto be in the m r A.
I made it to pro pro statusin motocross. Motocross was kind of my

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jam. But you know, Iwant I want that route backwards. Most
people go from dirt to m rA. I always been on sports bikes
and and loved the m r A, and then I went and found an
addiction in dirt, so I went. I went back with Yeah, kind
of weird. I was the olddude out there racing. Uh, you

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know, the fourteen year olds andyuy in the amateur class and you know,
went to the beginning. Now Iwas amateur and then in the prow
that was a blast though, youknow. So the man could wheel both,
uh, the Cove boys. Sowe got this cool ride a motorcycle
Expo. Dude. It's like ait's just really cool vintage bikes and you
can see old school cafe racers andyou know, just just really cool bikes,

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man, and they have them fromall over. So it's a cool
event. We'll be broadcasting from thatone on January twenty seventh as well.
We got Terry Fair. This cathas been killing it. It's VORs Sock
Motorsports. I gotta tell you,man, Terry you know how I know,
man, what's a great litmus sortof a good indicator is I see

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and hear your name and conversations inthe industry and racers and you know,
just local, local people. Iknow, they're big in the time attacks
and the road course stuff and justlooking to upgrade into a really nasty suspension
setup, you know. And yoursocial media presence has popped like crazy with

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the silly as memes you got going. I laugh every time I see one
of them. And congratulations on whatI imagine has been a really really just
throttling year for you, the team, the company and everything involved with Voorslag
Motorsports. Yeah, twenty twenty threewas nuts, man. It's you know,
explosive growth again. Another record year, a lot of suspension sales,

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a lot of success on track,you know. Finally got my twenty fifteen
Mustang l swap car we called Trigger. Oh yeah, I got it on
track. Yeah, it's been ontrack since June. Big you know,
to talk to you. I knowyou were you were doing that thing,
you getting excited about it. We'rereally looking at kind of yeah, and
so tell us what how that evolutioncame about? What what happened when you

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first put it on the track towhere it is currently. There were some
challenges. We tried to test sometheories of you know, the LS engine
everybody knows has some oiling issues ontrack definitely can wet stamp has had some
challenges, so we built it asan LS seven drive up. Well,
the factory L seven dry sump hasits limits too, as we quickly found

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long left hand turns at one pointfive g it'll just suck the pan dry
and then there's no oil in theengine. And we had our tuner put
a trigger in the eu FI systemto so this is something notally happens.
And the curves. If you're intothis world and they're out there trying to
knock it down, trying to figureout the best way to attack it,

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Yeah, yeah, exactly, andyou turn all sorts of tricks. Did
you find out the hard way?We you know, we kind of knew
this would be a limitation, butwe're like, you know, we've got
an external dry sump tank, athree gallon tank that'll feed everything. It
won't run out of oil. Notit's still run in a wall. It's
an amazing amount of oil. Itgoes through that engine with even the LS
seven, a K Tech pump likewe had, and it takes about five

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or six seconds and it's ot ooil. Yeah, it starts sucking the
pan dry. And because it's justthe L seven, the factory dry sump
is not as good as an aftermarketdry sump. The pickups on the rightlong
side of the engine, and theway that the engine spins and and and
left hand turns, it'll just ata g and a half. And we're
doing that with tuning treadword tires.So we fought that for probably Harbor six

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events, and our tuner had uson like a red lumber essentially every time
it would get below thirty PSI.He said, he's doing that on two
hundred. My you're a wheeler.He's doing a g and a half on
two hundred. And I got toask the question, you gotta have arrow,
am I right? No? Soone no, no, no,

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we do now, we do now, And that just made it a lot
worse. We went from it didn'thell, Yeah, we were. We
were trying all sorts of band aids, and my genius self said, hey,
let's put a giant wing it splitteron the car. And it made
it way worse a car. You'regetting one and a half g on level

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ground without arrow on two hundred treadwaretires. Yeah, there's bringers out there.
It's a twenty fifteen Mustang in eighteentwelve with the three fifteen big LS,
seven and a half liter LS,good suspension. We've got everything kind
of dialed in a lot of camber. And yeah, I was seeing you

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know one five one five five peakslateral before we did arrow, and uh,
you know Yokohama A fifty two.I got a pest. This is
year four. That that card.That tire has been dominant in the two
hundred tread ware wars. It's nutsand everybody keeps saying, oh, this
brand, this tire, Yeah,nothing seems to touch it. It's it's
amazing tire. But I would itwould put arrow. It got it worse.

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I would suggest, I would suggestthe Hoosier would be stickier. Yeah
it is. But the classes werun, we run some classes that are
limited to hundred and we run werun some series where we run Hoosier,
so we're gonna run both. Intwenty twenty four, I did some Hoosier
R sevens. Yeah, we're aboutthe same as the as the Yokohama.

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So we're gonna go to an Aseven. We're gonna go to bigger,
like A three forty five. It'sa big yeah, big enough. Yeah,
that's what we use. Yeah,yeah, oh for sure. So
all right, man, so youdid this in an ls Watt twenty fifteen
Mustang. Yeah, so obviously somesuspension where when you when you put it,

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when you put on the track.Those were some of the first big
problems you had as the car evolvedand you started attacking some of these oiling
issues and things like that. Whatwhat what was the starting point? Where'd
she growth that? And walked usthrough the through the end game or at
least where you're at now. Yeah. So we do a lot of testing

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at Motorsport Ranch Crescing one point sevenmile track. It's about a ninety second
track for most cars, and westarted out in like the one nineteen range
and we were still having these oldpressure issues before we did arrow and we
were winning some events, surprisingly,but we knew that. You know,
I was probably riding the red lumbereight ten seconds a lap because it was
you had no oil pressure. Sowe try to nac youse up. We

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tried bigger hoses, We tried allthese fixes, and it was just came
down to talk to a lot ofpeople in the industry that dry sump suppliers,
Garriott are and some others, andthey're like, You're just never gonna
it's that pan, it's that pump. They just can't move enough oil.
It's not picking up right. Sowent to an external dry four stage and
a real pan, and instantly allthe problems on the way and the car
dropped about four seconds a lap.Whoa before and a half seconds? Yeah,

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a big, big change and shockedpeople came out to one event and
just people are like, whoa,what changed? You just got a lot
faster, Like this is the potentialthe car has always had. We just
finally fixed a handicap and it wasyou know, I knew the L seven
boiling system had limitations, I justdidn't know it was this bad. It
was worse than our car we ranthe year before. We had a wet

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sump LS two C six that didwell and never saw a brush as slow.
The LS seven was just a reallybig limitation. So yeah, it
was. It was game changing.And now we're seeing you know, one
seven to five lateral with arrow ontwo hundred treadware. So geez, one
seven five lateral g on a twohundred tread Where is Banana? If you

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saw the arrow, you would belike, oh, yeah, it's got
a giant splitter, a dual plaincarbon wing. It's it's a lot of
arrow tricks. We've been throwing atthe car in the latter half of the
season and just it kept knocking downfastest time of day at event after an
event after event, and all theseguys on Hoosiers are like, what and
the heck is going on with thisMonthdang not light. It's a big car.

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Yeah, that's what's crazy about it. Especially you know that's a big
wheelbase. That's a lot of cars, that's a lot of a lot of
ways hanging over the area. Yeah, you know that big thing. That's
that's a lot of stuff working againstwhat you're trying to get to do.
And I would be one of theI would be one of the Hoosier guys
with that look on my face likewho is this guy? Yeah, it's

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you know, and it just comesdown to the six and we just put
the biggest tier on we could fortwo hundred treadwear and some of the series
where we're running against Hoozier people,I was at a disadvantage, but we
just had, you know, sixhundred and twenty the wheels, super reliable,
naturally aspirated power. It just justpushed through the air with as much
drag as you could ever want andall the down force in the world.

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And you're running like a three twentyfive tire three fifteen. But it's a
big tire. It's it's a twelveinch wide tire. It's it's kind of
large for three fifteen square or you'vegot bigger in the back all the way.
Okay, No, that's that's asbig as a Yokohama makes. Nobody
makes a really big two hundred treadweartire. It's something that a lot of

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Corvette guys are like, hey,we can fit more tire guys, you
got to give us something. There'sjust nothing fast that's bigger. Yet.
Yeah, it seems like that wouldbe an attack you know, well versed
and handled by the you know,the Toyo's, the yobohamas, the who's
your people that you know, Yeah, well maybe it's right, but they

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can't Oh yeah, yeah yeah,Who's You's the only company that makes really
really big tires like three forty fiveto three thirty five. Yeah, And
that's what we would go to assoon as we run a series where we
don't have to use to it ortry to work. If that's the two
sideses, I'm going to a bigdifferent sight. Vorcelag Motorsports. We gotta
take a break more Terry, it'sa second because look, if you're thinking
about you know, throwing suspended,this work gets fun because time attacks out

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a cross is you know, waisingget out of enjoy your ride for us?
I mean, you know, inthe mountains right there, man,
anybody can get what they like tocall spirited drive. You know, having
on so many opportunity type roads outthere, you want something to handle,
you want something feel like you're attasked to the road. It just makes
it more enjoyable, more fun.Uh and definitely you know smiles for miles.

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It gives you a little bump.So how do you get that,
how do you get that done onyour car? Chances are Terry's got something
worked out for you. And ifyou're looking to go fast, like real
fast, you don't be that guy. Everybody's like, what's going on?
M hey man, come back withthis. Terry Fair Vorcelog Motorsports. Willy
Bee's garage just one of seven nineKVPI Willy B's garage. You're back in

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Willybe's garage. I posted into thisprogram. They're not pre recording whatever you
guys, will Be's garage. We'llgo to it. Happy Saturday. Hope
we're doing well. Man, It'scrazy we're cracking off twenty twenty four.
As we look back, I knowtwenty three was a big year from a
man. Terry Fair to the shownow from Vorcelag Motorsports. Check them out

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on line, man, they arejust absolutely crushing all things. When you're
thinking ls WAPs, when you're thinkingyou know, Camberg castor plates, when
you're thinking of suspension, when you'rethinking about going fast around any time,
attack auto cross road course, justbumping a notch or two up on your
street driven you know Rod, youknow nowadays where it's at Man is suspended

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big horsepower. Big horsepower is easyobtained planting it is is where the trick
comes in. And these guys,man, these guys are significant in helping
you do that. Terry, welcomeback. Always cool to have you on.
Man, how much has your LSworld exploded over the last you know,
three to four five years and you'veseen the slow down and people want

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to take that platform and just throwingit in all things old school. Yeah,
Man, LS is not going anywhere. It's it's crazy. You know,
about two or three years ago,everyone's talking EV this EV that we're
like, man, should we tacklea Tesla swamp? And we've been just
swamped. We've never been busier withthe LS swap business. We have a

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nine different chassis and we have troublekeeping up with supply. I've got a
bunch of headers in stock. We'remaking all our mounts and cross members and
touch and it's you know, itwas kind of a joke and initially as
I did this L swap thing onthe side of a suspension business, and
it's just never slowed down. It'sjust crazy. Everybody wants to put an
LS and everything all problems. Ithink you should put an ls in a

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tesla. People that people put inand roll up in the EV line cars
and coffee right in the EV spots. But here's the problem with that.
You're not gonna go faster, You'reprobably gonna go slow. I mean that.
The brutal reality is the evs arejust ridiculously fast and on the all

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wheel drive and the torque vectoring theycan do and the and the one thing
people don't realize is the battery matAll the mass in the car is in
the bottom eight ches of the car, like a Formula car because the CG
is so low. There's no gasengine car that's ever had a CG as
low as that, you know,this oute of a Formula one car.
It's it's ridiculous how well they work, even heavy, even with short ranges.

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You know, different racing groups arehaving to put them in their own
classes because they're really really fat.Yeah, they can do some things.
They can update them over the airand like oh now it's Slalom's like an
F one card. It's like whatso well, yeah, but yeah,
that's a discussion. Hey. Youknow what though, man, it was
very interesting as Seema being to,you know, talk to a lot of

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industry people out of Detroit, Man. What you're seeing is kind of wild.
The Big Three because of so manyrags and rules pushed down from the
government. The Big Three are really, you know, coming off of the
internal combustion engine. But what you'reseeing from the likes of BMW and all
these Germany European cars, they're notcoming off the internal combustion engine at all.

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Matter of fact, they're ramping itup. And there's been a big
been There's been a big swell andthe number of companies, people, organizations,
even people that you know, lookat how green certain things are.
There's been a big pushback on theelectric vehicles just due to you know,

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the sales, the movement, someof the things found out about you know,
about how not green you know itmay end up being. There's there's
some things that are questionable these nowadays, and I'm starting to see a lot
of the industry question moves and directivesthat have been kind of forced down their

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throat lately. Yeah, now Iagree one hundred percent. You know,
I know people that work in theindustry, and I have some friends that
own a Ford dealership, and theamount that they had to pay to be
able to sell an EV vehicle wasastronomical and the ROI was like eight years,
like, hey, we're never goingto make money. And there's Lightnings.
You know, the Ford sold alot of Lightnings. There was a

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number two selling electric vehicle and companybehind Tesla in the country. But I
think they're sitting on lots. They'rejust not moving like they were. The
government incentives, the tax breaks theygot kind of disappeared. I know,
GM just announced the big you knowrebate their having it to get people to
buy them because they were had abuilt in seventy five hundred dollars discount that
just kind of went away because ofsome new rules they you know, the

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administration wanted to make sure they weregiving rebates for stuff that was built here,
batteries built here, and there wasa big push to build battery plants.
I just drove through Alabama and sawthis massive, massive plant. It's
bigger than I've ever seen, andit's to build batteries because they don't get
the credits. If the battery comesfrom China, they don't get the credit.

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If the cobalt comes from another country, they don't get the credit.
If the COBALT's processed in another country, so they're trying to bring all that
stuff here. I get why theymade the changes because they were given all
these incentives for people to buy stuffthat was imported from people that don't like
us. So I could kind ofagree with how they made the changes.
And it's made some of those rebatesjust kind of disappear. And the industry

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is scrambling hundreds of millions of dollars, flying around, billions of dollars to
build some of these plants, becauseI mean, it's inevitable fifty years from
now, we're probably we all gonnabe an EV's. It's not gonna happen
by twenty thirty. It's not gonnahappen my twenty thirty five, Like GM
thing right and Volvo said we madeour last guest engineer. I think some
of those are premature. I thinkit's a bigger hill to climb. There's

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more logistical problems. People realize.I work in the power generation industry for
a long time, and our gridsjust not set up for some of this
stuff. Bro The people don't havingmoney, that money that Ford has lost,
and the and the the pullback thatis going through right now on it

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is enormous. They let all theirice engine guys go, the whole everybody
deal with internal combustion. They letgo all those people hit the market.
Other industry people absorbed them. Well, now now for is like what we
need ice? We need we needtonical bus more than what we thought.
So now and worse as general motors. I mean, they they killed the

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Camaro crazy. The Mustang is theonly pony car left because because you know,
uh Stellanus, you know, Chryslerkilled the Challenger. Now you got
joint government killed that because the damntax You know, they had a billion
dollars just in fine fees and taxesbecause they're building everything over seven hundred and
seven words power. So they weregetting mocked up from taxes and find so

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they they had to pivot. So, I mean, obviously you see what
happened. It's this big sort ofsort of agenda push down and and some
of us good, some of it, however, premature, and unfortunately other
companies are gonna relish because like BMW, you think they're gonna turn away from
the it's not a chance, man, They are murdering it. Yeah,

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the M two three four cars arefast as hell. On track and they're
really responsive to boost and they're showingup in classes with Mustangs and Camarials.
I'm like, guys, we gottawe gotta really turn it up because these
guys can you know, change aprogram. And they got five to six
hundred the wheels. So yeah,it's uh, there's some companies that are
going to clean up. I mean, they're all playing the EV game on

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the side. But you know,GM went a little too far. They
killed gim performance. They said we'renever coming back to SEMA or p r
I and I'm like, never though, I mean, because that's a big
that's strange. Damn Man Corvette.Corvette still lives, though it does.
You know, they got the Eray coming. But hopefully they don't mess

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with the gasoline because that's that's wherethe fund's at. It's just not on
in a car that doesn't make anynoises or have any you know that that
missing that whole element of the thesmell and the sound. It's just it
just takes the fun out of it. To me, Yeah, yeah,
exactly. And on top of that, Man gas has a lot more left
in it. It's gonna be surprisingwhere the technology will end up leading in

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how far we can go with it. I feel like the combination that we're
all gonna be plugged into another generationor two is the hybrid a battery to
get to move in and motivate intoa certain mile an hour, and then
the gas is going to take overbecause you know, much, yeah,
much over forty fifty, the gasjust becomes the most efficient way versus the

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battery because the mass moving, hey, the battery, the torque curve,
you can't beat it. But thenafter a certain speed, gas is still
king. And I feel like energydensity, it's all energy, yeah,
exactly. Look at what the what'sthe hummer weighs nine thousand pounds and the
range is like two hundred and fiftymiles. It's nuts. It's the batteries
have to weigh so much and theydon't lose any mass as you burn off

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fuel because it's not fuel, it'sjust electrons. So we're not gonna have
electric planes probably in our lifetimes.We're not gonna have you know, a
long range four five hundred mile eveekuntil they have some major major breakthroughs because
the energy density is like fifty timesworse than you know, the chemical energy
within gasoline. So let's talk aboutthose gas cars. How much faster you've

(28:57):
been making them? Tell us yourservicing This is vorcelag Motorsports Courage. You
look it up online, follow themon social media because he has some hilarious
memes and social media stuff. Butthey really man just making so many people
just faster, so many cars faster. What's been your biggest sort of uptick

(29:18):
and skews. What platforms are yousee, you know, as as huge
growth for you and your company,And tell me some of some of these
kids and some of these upgrades you'rethrowing at people. Yeah, so this
is our twentieth year in business,twenty twenty four, and you know,
we started out with suspension for BMW'sand it kind of grew from there and
eventually we got in a little bitof everything. We started getting in the

(29:41):
pony cars and that's really taken offin the last few years. The Mustang
is just our number one seller forsuspension shocks and top mounts. The Camaro
still a strong seller section Camaro inall the generation Mustangs. In the last
twenty years, it's just been big, big sellers for us. But we
still do a lot of BMW Westill do a lot of Corvette and in

(30:02):
the eighty six chassis. The bR z uh and the eighty six are
just huge, So you know,there's there's a lot that's going on.
But shocks. We're selling a lotof dampers from all in Motion Control bill
Stein. And then our top mounts. You know, we make spherical top
mounts or camera plays for struck carsand shock mounts for non struck cars and

(30:23):
we make all that in house andthat's just been huge. Well, something
else they're doing for us muscle carguys. How difficult is it to get
added like breaks on a muscle car? You know? Oh yeah, We've
talked about that on two guys andit's it's tough, but we're making it
work. We've learned a lot thisyear on this Mustang. It was a
twenty fifteen Mustang. So the Sfive to fifty generation has a really good

(30:45):
factory and it like break system.But the car I bought had been completely
stripped of warrant. It wasn't ashred of wire on the car, so
the CAN network was gone and wehaven't been able to make that modern SF
I fifty abs work the standalone,but we have with the previous generation Mustang
one ninety seven and the eleven tofourteen Mustang ABS is really good. It's

(31:07):
better than what Cam has. Ihate to say that, but it is.
And we've swapped them onto some Cfives and C six's and it's amazing
how much better it is. Sowe swapped that into this SY fifty.
We made it work with just junkyard parts, which is amazing because it's
only a few hundred dollars. Andthen we had a four racing ABS and
we worked with another shop here inDecember of last year and they were able

(31:30):
to crack into that can network tosteal the wheel speeds and brake pressures and
they have a functional traction control.So that was something we just added to
my my Mustang. And it's amazingwhen you've got you know, six twenty
to the wheels with admittedly limited grip, having some tracks control in second third
gear's been really amazing. Yeah,it is shockingly good. It's crazy the

(31:55):
tracks and control because let's be honest, that is such such a game chance.
I mean unlock. It's a cheatman, It's it's big time cheat
code and I love it. Ican't yeah to do some of the like
ls fasts and some of the eventswhere we have a standing start second year
stuff. Before it was just unusablein this car with you know, six

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twenty wheel. Now I'm like,okay, let's find another hundred horsepower because
if we can control it. Wegot computers doing some tricks for us.
Now, just like with the abs, the tracks control is huge unlocked and
I'm super excited. The shop RepScalion Motorsports here at the track. They
just celebrated their one year anniversary yesterdayand they did this tractor control force and

(32:36):
it is amazing. It's really cool. It's it's crazy to think how much
faster and how much more controlled youcan be with these things. Oh yeah
in your muscle car. Are youseeing the growth in some of these platforms
at least some of the ways todo because man, it was such a
it was such a I wish sortof scenario for guys with older cars to

(32:58):
be able to have any of this, such a you know just a straight
years ago. Yeah, yeah,ten years ago, none of this existed.
I mean, the technology was there, but the ability to put it
on a different platform and older chassis, which just was it was an immeasurable
amount of work, and people justgot I said, I can't do it.
I can't do it. Well.Through social media and forums, we've

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all kind of had some information sharing, and I've hooked up with some guys
that are just can gurus and they'vehelped us and have figured this out,
and they're like, well, wecan do the physical, you know,
putting the tone ring on and thesensor, and you guys make the ones
the hero's work, And it's reallyexciting and stuff's coming together, like really
the last two years, stuff's justkind of falling into place to make you

(33:42):
don't have to spend ten thousand dollarson a Bosh Motorsport ABS, which is
really good, but you have tohave an engineer to help you program it.
This stuff is just junk yard swapstuff. And you know, I
can do an ABS swap for liketwo hundred dollars in parts that you know,
that's just that's a whole lot differentthan ten thousand and flying in it.
Yeah, so it's exciting seeing thatstuff kind of happen, and you

(34:02):
know, we're trying to share itwith a couple of Facebook groups. We
have one for ABS swaps and hacks. We've got one for electric power assisted
steering, which is the new thing. We've been really pushing getting hydraulic you
know, high pressure hydraulic fluid outfrom under the hood of a car.
Because it's very flammable and that's undera lot of pressure, it's really easy
to get a leak and then poof. So we're doing electric steering racks,

(34:24):
electric steering column lighter. You don'thave that parasitic drag. You don't have
that, and it works and youcan touch it. Does it give you
a feedback? Does? Do youhave everything that you I can't tell all
the modern cars in the last fifteenyears, you know, they're all electrics

(34:44):
heering, and you can't tell peoplethat think you can. I'm like,
man, show me it's I havea twenty four dark Horse Mustang we just
bought. It's all electric steering,electric dry by wire brakes, electric boost
on the brakes. You can't tell. It's amazingly fast and the feedback is
great. So all the Doom andGloom book, Oh no, it's electric.
It's really good. So wow,when will you have So I'm you

(35:12):
know, I maybe prying too far, but when will you have kitch or
when will you us on this side? For example? Here here I am.
I'm an old most of the carguy. I got me, you
know, I got me a sixtynine Chavelle and a first gen Camaro on
the Chevy side and a couple youknow, Dodge chargers at second gen stuff.
I'm on the mopar side. Sowhen will guys like myself be able

(35:36):
to call up Vorsck Motorsports and go, hey, man, give me that
there track to control and abs systembecause I need it, Like I know,
yeah, I keep I hate makingpromises. I know you and Bird
have been pushing me for like twoyears, like when are you gonna have
this? When are you gonna havethis? It comes down to manpower.
I'm two men short right now,and it's a it's a crazy market trying
to get people to, you know, come take a job in motorsports.

(36:00):
So I've got job listings out becauseI need help. We have, you
know, multiple cars sitting here readyfor this exact work. I got a
sixty nine Camaro. I told youabout my Fox Mustang at eighty eight Fox.
I got an eighty nine Camaro.All of those cars are gonna get
electric steering. They're gonna get aps, they're gonna get e fi, they're
gonna get modern suspension. To getall that together, I need help.

(36:21):
I need manpower. So we've gotthe facilities, we've got the engineering skill.
I just need a fabricator. Ineed a machinist. I need some
people. And the job market isso strong right now it's hard to it's
hard to find the right people.So it is I predict that because I've
been down two men for more thana minute. So I got got to

(36:43):
get two people. You mentioned acouple of cars right there that I've seen
just explode over the last couple ofyears. Thirgeon Camaros all of a sudden
became the w they're weighting gold whenI could you know, I bought one
for five hundred bus that had aoriginal set of old school like torque thrust
from like the late sixties, thrownin the trunk like there, doll,
here you go. Man, Ijust got four hundred and fifty bucks I

(37:05):
paid for this car, and thedamn thing had like seven thousand miles.
Dude didn't start it for like years, and I've got that car for like
four hundred bucks. Now a suddenthose that's saying car be worth thousands.
They put them up, blown up. Yeah, it's tough, and that's
you know, that's the cars Igrew up with. I'm a gen X
guy. I grew up with FoxMustang. Yeah, Barrows in high school

(37:25):
and college had a bunch of them. You know, you go drive one
today, you know, thirty yearsforty years later, like Clapper, Terrible,
too, Terrible, Yardbird, laddas hell. That that that that've
always squeaked in. Yeah, whatyour heart wants, though, you know,
you get used to that kind ofboxy eighties nineties look, that rad

(37:45):
you know, rad fast kind oflook. And so that's kind of what
I'm attacking. Yeah, you know, we still we still have some you
know, sixties and seventies cars inthe shop that will always be doing.
But there are shops that you know, there's so many Detroit Speeds and Ring
Brothers. Those guys are just killingit. We're never going to make a
dent in that market. So Iwant to attack the eighties and nineties cars.

(38:07):
And I know well that I've owneddozens of and I know better.
I can spot, you know,an eighty seven to eighty eight Mustang from
one hundred yards. I can't dothat with a sixty eight to a sixty
nine Camaro. You know, Ijust don't have that pedigree and that skill
set. But I want to doall this modern cool stuff with an LS
power maybe coyote power, and putit in these cars. So that's kind

(38:30):
of what we're attacking in twenty twentyfour. Again, if I can just
get a couple more people on board, just just beef up our crew a
little bit, Yeah, it wouldmove things forward, no doubt. Vorcelog
Motorsports, y'all hear that they're hiring. They're in Texas, man, living
a good life. How many tracksyou say you have in the Dallas area
or four road courses in Dallas FortWorth? It's nuts. It's like,

(38:53):
I can't think of a metroplex thathas this many racetracks quality level. We
just lost our big like quarter mileband Mere speedway tracking course. We've got
one road course way out of east, but not a lot here anymore.
Man. We got Pueblo way downsouth, but there's not a lot of
road courses and stuff here anymore.Yeah, it's it's you know, we've

(39:15):
got Motorsport Ranch, Eagles Canyon,Raceway. Texas Motor Speedway has an infield
road course. There's a new trackcalled G two that just opened up.
Spoiled. We can do stuff everyweekend of the year. We got four
still yeah Hunter p p I R. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, p
p I R. I forgot howthey do that road course there, but

(39:36):
Pueblo p p I R. Butit's it's not a true true road course
like high planes. Pueblo. Yeah, I know, I haven't been a
little Hunt. Yeah. So interesting, but still at the same time,
you know, hungry for more speedways, more road courses, and obviously the

(39:57):
track ship here and you know,just every day driving where you get that
little excitement out of your car andyou whip your ride. You know that,
dude, that's what suspension, that'swhat you know, a little bit
of power up grade and tuning cando to your car. And it's just
it's wild because everything's fast nowadays.It really is. Yeah, there's so

(40:19):
many things fast crazy. Yeah.Yeah. This dark Horse we got is
is ridiculously fast right out of thebox for a thirty eight and fifty pound
car. It's faster than a Ceight on track. It shouldn't be.
I can't figure it out. It'sgot amazing tires and just ridiculous breaks,
pretty good Magne ride and it's justI don't know if it's that Magne ride

(40:40):
and it's that and is that good? Yeah, it's really good. I'm
of course pulling all that off andputting coil overs on it next week.
That's just what we do. ButI've gotten a lot of really good baseline
times out of it. And Iwas a second. I was half a
second quicker than a fifty one.And to be to be fair, Z
fifty one are not that fast.I can say that one. Yeah,

(41:04):
Z six is z R one arethe big Yeah sure, sure, yeah,
no, no, that's you know, that's a different tax bracket altogether,
but for sure compared to it darkbut a dark horse and a regular
eight Z fifty one package are ye'scompared dark horse and eighty for fifty one.
It's it's not, you know,too far apart, so you get

(41:27):
people cross up and both they don'tweigh that very different. The s the
C eight is not exactly a lightweight, so yeah, it's it's a valid
comparison. Yeah, thirty six toyou know, and that's what the outgoing
Mustang weight. I don't know howthis one got so fat and heavy,
But it's quicker than the outgoing car. It's all I know. I've I've
tested it five times now and I'mjust like, holy crap, this is
shockingly good. Yeah, I hadthe power in that thing is pretty uh

(41:51):
presentable what it is. It's likea good band wide usage. Yeah,
yeah, which is uh, youknow, crazy for that small of an
engine. Yeah, a little fiveliter it. You know, it pulls
to seventy eight hundred and it's justgot power everywhere. I can't complain about
that. Yeah, dude, it'sa whip and wow little engine on top

(42:15):
of it. Like he said,a lot of breaks. Big tires they
you know, the darker stuff islegit. It's three point fifteen. You
know this special Pirelli Trafeo RS tirethey only make for this car. Yeah,
it's sticky, it's it's as quickas the Yokohama Super tire. I
just did a tire test back toback and it was like so close I
couldn't call it. I'm gonna haveto redo the test. Yeah, So

(42:37):
we bought a brand new set,put them on and drove that. Me
and my wife both drove it multiplestints, and then we put the Yokohama's
on. I'm like, man,these are really really close OEM tire that's
legit fast and forg' not messing around. Yeah, so what else are you
still messing around with? Bunch ofBMW stuff? Because really that's where everybody,

(42:57):
I think probably first heard about you. Yeah we got the German name.
Yeah, No, we still haveBMWs littered through the shop and and
and out. A lot of bmdo suspension that the new F series BMWs
and knew that the new G seriesthe M cars are ridiculously fast. They
have some really good electronics. Uh, they've gone to automatic transmissions and a

(43:19):
lot of these and they're really goodeight speed transmissions. You don't have to
think about shifting anymore because the computerdoes a really good job of It's like
the ten speed in the Camaro andthe Mustang. They're really really good.
And the of course, I wisheverything had the Tremick, like the C
eight and the g T five hundredhad that sequential. I've driven those on
track and I'm just shocked at howgood they are. And Trimick may never

(43:42):
make another one again because everyone's goingto automatics or evs. So it's a
great technology that might sunset. Althoughthat t k O five speed they got
whatever it is, Yeah, it'sreally good and really like to ninety five
pounds. We put those bunch ofcars. We've got uh swap kits for
those. You don't have to doany tunnel work for your old car right

(44:06):
in like a force muscle car.Yeah, it's really easy. Yeah,
we're we're moving away from the bigT fifty six because it's just you got
to do so much butchery in sixtiesand seventies muscle cars that make them fit.
The tk AX just falls right in. Yeah, it's it's an incredible
transmission, all right. Man,So tell me about Audi So do you
do you ever mess with them?And why are they they becoming such a

(44:29):
force. I don't know, youknow what that Audi A eight is the
fastest. Like these things. There'sthere's several of them that can that can
drive the vand mirror did so thislast year. Click off a low seven
second quarter mile and turn around anddrive the Salt Lake like it's it's unreal
what they what they're doing out ofthem beat in Yeah, Yeah, the

(44:52):
the ra you know that is mostlya Lamborghini. And there's some big shops,
you know, Dallas Performance here doesa lot of wind turbos, and
you've got the the there's a coupleother shops that pro line and some of
those that do some crazy stuff withthose engine takes a lot of boost,
you know. Yeah, but rigorAudi cars seems to get a lot faster.

(45:14):
People are hot riding those people areseeing those on the road course,
we don't They're kind of heavy fora road course. They're good for straight
line stuff, but on a roadcourse we just don't see as many.
Yeah, they're kind of they're kindof heavy. They just and you don't
have enough tire under them, andyou don't want to own the crazy.
Yeah, they do have a lotof understeer and you don't want to own

(45:37):
one out of warranty. I knowthat for a fact. Like most German
cars, the more the newer theyare, the shorter the lifespan they seem
to have. But but brand newout of the box. Yeah, they're
they're beautiful cars too, the greatwhat else? What else from over the
pond or across the pond? Uh, I got a buddy who's got a
mini Cooper who's like, man,you talk to your Vorslag guy. He's

(46:00):
all about a lot of that,dude. Yeah, because you guys are
leading leading the charge on many Cooperstuff. Yeah, we do a lot
of camera plates for the all fourgenerations, three generations. Yeah, we
sell a ton for that chassis.We have one coming here the other day.
One of our customers who's got aC eight. We call him Scottish
Joe. He's from scottl and he'shilarious and he just he just got one

(46:22):
and he loves it. He goes, yeah, my wife really liked it.
I can't do his accent. It'sokay over the top, but but
yeah, we we weighed. Itwas way lighter than we thought it'd be.
It was like twenty seven hundred pounds. I was like, man,
I thought these would be a bigfat pig. It was a brand new
one and they've got a good transmissionand it makes good power. And he's
like, yeah, I'm gonna getthe Cooper works breaks and we're gonna put

(46:43):
you know, coil overs on it, and yeahda yadayah. He's going to
start tracking that thing. And sohe's had a little golf bar and loved
it. Oh yeah, his wasnot a GP Mini. No, I've
got pictures of it here. It'sI forgot what what models they have.
I can't keep up with him becausethey're you know, time speeds up as
you get older, you know,and I can't keep up with all the

(47:06):
models. Yeah, keep coming out. It's a Mini Cooper S is a
twenty four Mini Cooper S. Butit's it wasn't the John Cooper works,
right, But that's the break upgrade that everyone does. And he's like,
yeah, I'm going to do theCooper breaks because they're much better break
package. And he's already putting bigcarestock for stock. Yeah, golf Ours
is quicker, but I think it'squite you know, a chunk more money

(47:29):
wise, but but yeah, hisis a DCT transmission, so dual clutch
sequential, So that's pretty cool.That's not many people are still doing that.
I know some of the golf oersA are DCTs and BMW Mini did
it for this one, and it'she says, it's you know, every
time you drive that on track,he chove to C eight and he's like,
I found out that Mini had whenI had to get that, you

(47:49):
know, because it's just such agood transmission. I'm sure Petiford knows this
too. It's so just addictive ontrack. You feel like an F one
driver as it's blipping and rev matching. Yeah, and it's so easy that
you feel guilty for the first lap. Well, look at the dark course
is the same way that it hasa rev matching feature with this Trumic six

(48:13):
speeds And I was like, oh, this game, how do I turn
it off? And I drove itfor a lap I'm like, oh no,
yeah, man, the new zealsix has that same thing. Yeah,
that's sick. I drove one theother day and I was like,
you got to kid me. Therev matches bananas on that thing. It's
like, whoa, computers are greatwhen they work, They're really cool.

(48:36):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt man. All right, Well as always man,
it's uh, it's just awesome catchingup with you. Uh. And
just see what you guys at WORSELGMotorsports are doing. Uh, how you're
always constantly kind of pushing and changingthe game a little bit. If look,
if you guys want to go fastand want to do so, whether
it's a road course or a flattrack, time attack that's where you really
have a lot of fun or justget out there and do that. What

(49:00):
it's called spirity driving. It's justspirity driving. Has the bone with that.
Man. These guys can probably helpyou make their car stick and get
just exponentially. Man. They havesomething for just about every platform and application
out there. Continue to do more. And what's great about Terry is he's
not afraid to dive in and helpyou solve problems. They really they pride

(49:22):
themselves and making sure you know thepeople in their world community and use their
products. Have all the problems solvingthat these guys can bring to the table,
and they just crush it. Soif you have any questions concerns,
you can always put up phone andtalk to him because they're always there.
Yeah. Yeah, it's it's crazyhow much time you end up spending on
social media just answer questions. Andsometimes it has nothing to do with shock.

(49:45):
We didn't talk about shocks all thiswhole last hour, but there's so
much stuff going on in the industry. It's like, you know, the
technology changing so fast, you justgot to be ready to answer questions and
dive in. Do you have aquick I gotta take a break. Can
I hold you for one second?And maybe maybe you can give us a
quick couple of easy things when itcomes to shocks, like how do you
measure shocks? I don't know.I know a lot of people don't don't

(50:07):
know how to measure shocks. Whatdo you measure from when you're ordering shocks?
Maybe talk to us about spring rateand what you should be looking at
and things like that. Do youhave time to educate us a little bit?
All right, hang on one second, man, we'll come back Willy's
garage. Want step nine KVP IWillibe's garage. You're back in Willybe's garage.

(50:34):
He'll be guys with these garage.Welcome to a sweet little Saturday.
As see, it looks freaking awesome. We're supposed to know anything day.
It looks way too warm for thatout of there tonight tonight, maybe man,
good day to get the hot rodsout house cars and coffee. This
morning it was cold. Yeah,more on the coffee than because there was

(50:54):
still There were still fifty cars outthere at seven am this morning. That's
cz yeah, man, it's gettingit. We got Terry Farrell and Vorsak
Motor Sports. They're out of Texas. But man, they're doing so many
things right, Like, you shoulddefinitely follow them on social media because some
of the social media stuff is justhysterical. I know who you got doing

(51:15):
your memes because but they kill me. But Facebook, I'm the meme lord.
They're hilarious anyway, Man, Whatwhat I tell you, man,
is check these guys out. They'rehelping a lot of people up their times.
Be it a time attack, ottocross, you know, a spirited
drive the mountains, some road corpsestuff, and they're excus the number of

(51:39):
of you know, sort of thingsthat they're attacking, be it Mustang's ls
WAPs, you know, all kindsstuff for BMW. We were just talking
man to go about Mini Cooper.They really have a lot of excus out
there and a lot of ways toupgrade whatever it is you're pushing around town.
You know, before we left,we kind of stumbled in the shocks.
I meant to ask you this earliershocks. Are you know there's such

(52:00):
a there's such a way to tuneand dial your your car in that A
lot of people I think are skepticalor at least they don't know where to
to really start and how to doa lot of that. So maybe if
you got a little bit of time, you know, let's start with you
got a car, you're you know, hanging some suspension part to you got

(52:22):
to order new shocks? Where shouldyou be looking at? What's you know,
what do they talk about when theytalk about spring rate? I know
a lot of people get confused onthat or just the length of a shock.
Where do you measure to even startthat off with? So so that's
a really good question, and that'swhat we do. Eighty percent of our
days. We talk to shocks andsuspension to people on the phone, and

(52:45):
it's it's such a big subject thatit's hard to boil it down into a
thirty second, you know, easyto digest thing. We typically say,
we'd rather people call us and spendyou know, budget thirty forty five minutes
on the phone and I'll have themtalk with you know, me or my
head engineer Jason, who's been herea dozen years, and we can talk
you through, you know, whatyour goals are. What are you doing?

(53:06):
That's a canyon carver. I'm justdriving the mountains. Cool. We're
gonna not sell you a full onracistmnson that's going to knock your teeth out
because you're not chasing tents on aroad course. But we're going to sell
you something that's gonna corner flat ornot have as much a brake dive,
not have much much roll or squatand to get all that sloppy movement because
all the whims put the softest springsin the cars to meet the lowest common

(53:28):
denominator driver, you know, grannythat drives on a back road with snow
chains, and so everyone else hasto suffer with that soft spring rate because
they have those kind of people.Well, comfort is wild because people don't
want to it's funny. They wantto give it up. They made cars
so smooth so that you couldn't feelthe transmission shift, you couldn't feel the
road. They have soft shocks onthere to dampen everything so that the ride

(53:52):
is cozy and comfortable and you don'tknow that your tax dollars aren't going off
with potholes and cracks in the road, you know, because suspictures are so
much better, so they really andelectronic electronic shocks have made a lot of
that work better. So you know, electronic damping and control BMW does a

(54:12):
lot of that, and Chevy andFord have the Magna ride where they can
choose the damp AMW bring right toa little bit can pause that thought,
BMW. I don't know if theystill have it, but I just got
a car donated for the foundation thatwe're redoing right now. How about that
stupid hydraulic like active swaybar that theyhad working man, Dude, I got

(54:36):
that on a seven fifty l Idude, my god. What It's just
leaks everywhere and when you go toforums online, they're like, yeah,
there's somebody's leaks, but it's anactive swaybar. I'm like, who cares?
And it pisses all over your car, But apparently it's it's big.
With a lot of those bigger cars, they love the act of waybar and

(55:00):
it's done by break. Yeah,it's wild, it's crazy. Yeah.
I think the new Ford Bronco wejust got a twenty three. Some of
those models having an electronic swaybar disconnect, which is good for wheeling, especially
up in your way. That works, but at an expensive piece of technology.

(55:20):
I can get some disconnects for liketwenty dollars. Yeah, they are
pretty quick, but you know,BMW BMW Mercedes are really bad about putting
really really super advanced technology and theirhighest in cars, and they depreciate the
absolute worst compared to their you know, their low end cars, their c
Clasher, their three series hold theirvalue longer because they don't have all that

(55:45):
crazy stuff, you know, doublepane windows and electronic everything and air right
that all that stuff breaks within fiveyears and it's a nightmare in a fix.
It's just a throwaway car. Soyeah, I agree, some of
that technology gets a little silly.The Magna ride when it breaks, it's
really expensive to replace the shocks,the Z one to one l E Camaro

(56:05):
and some DSSV shocks that were fourthousand dollars. An axle broke, and
so you can't own those cars outof warranty and keep that technology going.
And so we're getting a lot ofsix gen Camaro guys because that came out
in twenty sixteen model that are outof warranty, and we're selling coil overs
for those guys left and right.They're like, man, I really thought
that Magnari was good, But Iput your coilovers on. It rides better.

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It's way better on track. I'mlike, yet, You can't fake
spring rate. Spring rate physics isreal. It's if you have to have
a spring stiff enough to resist onethousand pounds per corner these big fat cars
have. You can't do it withone hundred pound print springs that I can
squeeze together with my hand. Ittakes real spring rates. So we typical
rip right. The tires are puttingon these things are nuts, so you

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can't. You can't put a supercarthree R tire on a car. And
just like I'm going to fake itwith spring you know the shocks. I
mean, it kind of works.It's amazing how good it works on track,
but they kind of ride not sogreat on the street. And we
can give them a little bit betterride and a whole lot better performance once
we triple or quadruple the front springrate and start getting some real dampers that

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you can adjust with a knob.It's not that hard to do. So
people, you know, they gotthe dild up there, all right,
the bull goes in here, theygot down here on the bottom. What
so walk we can take all thatout of the equation. We don't.
We don't, you know, selljust random shocks. If I have to
have a customer measure shock for me. Oh, I'm in trouble. It's

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just impossible. No, we makea suspension kit and we'll work with you
know, a company like Motion Controlsout of Atlanta. They build everything here
in the US, and they'll youknow, sometimes we'll send them the drawings
and they'll make the initial stuff.We'll send them an OEM strut and like,
hey, this is the only struckwhen shortened at fifty millimeters. We
want to do this, you know, Well, we'll measure droop, travel,

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bump, trouble. We'll take allthe engineering away from the customer because
it's way too confusing. And that'swhat you know, that's what engineers are
supposed to do. And we've beenin this for twenty years. So we
do that and other dealers and inmotion control in house or Olands or whatever
shock company we're working with, they'llfigure out the spring link, the shock
length to give you a right heightrange. It's usually an inch to two

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and a half inches lower than stockbecause nobody wants stock right heights. You
know, sometimes in the snow andpeople want them pretty high. But generally
we're going to how them at leastan edge to get the center of gravity
down a little bit, but wedon't want to get the geometry out of
wax. And we measure all that. We measure the camera curves. We
do all that in house. Ittakes us days of work before we even
send a drawing to the shock manufacturer, like, hey, this is what

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we want to do for the SIfifty Mustang. We did that for that
chassis. We've done it for anumber of chassis. And then we get
on track and we take the boxof springs with us and that the big
three do the same thing. Everybodycan do all the calculations and oh,
let's talk about you know, ridefrequencies and all that's great field test.
Everybody takes the testing seriously. Andyou take a box of springs and we

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go to the track and we figuredout that almost all cars like a certain
amount of wheel rate at the wheel. They want this spring rate. And
as we go up and grip levelfrom the tire and arrow and things like
that, we start going up inspring rate. And at a certain point
it gets to be like this isnot fun on the street, and we
tell people that we generally have threeor four spring packages and we name them

(59:27):
in such a way like this isyour GT rate, This is your I
drive it to work every day.I do four track events a year.
This is going to be your setup. And then you guys could get more
seriously like I do ten track eventshere. I'm like, okay, let's
move you up. And then yougot the guys like I'm on Hoosiers.
I've got a little bit of arrowand I don't drive it. This is
trailer or it stays the track.Okay, I have your spring rate,
So we up with that. Thatit's all a conversation with the customer of

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like you got to be honest withyou and tell me the truth when I
ask you these questions. How muchtime do you spend on the street?
Where do you live? Oh,you're in You've got some really bad roads
in your area. You're in Washington, d c. O. We're gonna
change the spring rates. It's notlike you're living in LA or somewhere where
the roads are smooth. So itcomes down to what the customer does with
the car, what their plans are, and we try not to over sell

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them. You know, I'm notgonna do a four way adjustable shock if
they're they're really a one way adjustableguy, you know, right, but
look, you gotta grow you intoit. What about for the guy out
there who doesn't want to look likea dumb dumb and uh, he's afraid
of Kyle up, Like, isthere a thing? Is there like something
he can go and be like,I can measure it. I could do
it with his shop, like youknow, from complicated from the pinpoint dumb

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dumb. You know when it's whenit's something custom, when it's a chassis.
We don't know. Yeah, we'veworked with people and again I want
to talk to him on the phoneto make sure they know which end of
the measuring tape to even use,because sometimes I have to explain how tork
wrench works to people. Yeah,you can't assume anything. And I tell
people that up front. I'm nottrying to insult your intelligence. But have

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you ever used a torque rench?Have you ever checked your tar person?
And you know most of those guysget beaten on the track, right,
Yeah, I mean, And itcomes down to It's one of the things
I ask online a lot. Whenpeople give opinions, Not every opinion has
the same amount of weight, andthere's not a nice way to say that,
and when somebody starts saying, ohyeah, my supercharge, most thing

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works great on track. It neveroverheats, I'm like, okay, I
need to see your laptops because Ican look a laptime in a hurry.
And if you're not being smct meout and your supercharge most thank your opinion
doesn't mean anything. You're driving likemister Magoo and you're going slow. I
can make breaks on a Model Twork if I drive slow now and they
ain't got breaks on the front rightright, I take a bicycle time stop.

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So it just comes down to havingthat conversation. It's hard to do
that over email because you end upwith like thirty emails back and forth.
Save so much time if you justcall me and I can kind of,
you know, gauge how much Ican push you to give me the right
answer so that I get you inthe right thing and not under sell you,
overseell you and get you something that'stoo complicated or too simplified. And
sometimes people like, hey, Idon't know if I'm going to get into

(01:02:06):
track events. I want to doit. I'm going to do two events
and see if I like it.I'm gonna put you in a real basic
setup. But here's an upgrade path, And don't buy all this crap,
because all this crap is the shiny, blingy stuff that everybody wants to buy
because it's easy and I can stickit on the car and like look I
put this brace on and it's shiny, right, Yeah, you just made
the car heavier. It's already atank. Modern cars don't need any of

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those Bolton braces. They are superrigid. It's not like we're dealing with
the seventies and eighties cars here.So there's a lot of that back and
forth, and I'd rather do onthe phone. And and people appreciate that
when you're honest with them and youdon't know something something they don't need,
and they come back. I've gotcustomers from twenty years ago that's bought stuff
for five or six cars because theyknow I'm not gonna be a s So

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what's most important to get a car? You're looking at upgradeness, suspension?
Ye, do you think what's howto if a kids try to lay out
a plan of attack? You know, do some time attacks? Would you
address shocks first, sway bars,tires? Usually usually I will tell people

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you know, if you still gotthe stock tires, they're pretty terrible.
Almost almost everything needs more camera AndI'm not just because I sell camera plates.
That's why I sell camera plates,because it's so important. That's usually
the first mod on a Vic Fearsonstruck car, or if it's a car
like a Corvette that has proper suspension, is let's get you a performance alignment.
I've got a pre written alignment specfor twenty cars. Go get this

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alignment. Go to the track,see if you have fun. Maybe put
some brake pads on it so theydon't catch on fire. It depends on
the cars. Some cars come withreal terrible brakes, right, and like
a Corvette has pretty good breaks,put some pads and fluid in it.
Go do an event. See ifyou like it. And if it's a
guy that I've been doing this fortwo years, I'm tired of getting beat.
My buddy's just just embarrassing me onevery corner. He's breaking later and

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he's going, I'm like, okay, you need coil overs. Let's get
you into something proper. And itjust depends on what your goals are.
I want to do a time attack. That's a little bit more serious.
You're chasing tenths on track. We'renot doing single adjustments. We're going with
at least doubles. And what tireyou on. I need to know the
model. I need to know thesize of wheel. I need to know
all of that stuff. So that'swhy I do so much tire testing.

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I don't sell tires. I don'teven sell wheels, but I know what
about tires and wheels. Two hundredtread where one hundred tread? Where you
know who's your I've done all thatso I can get people in the right
shock and spring package. That's whyI do all the tires testing I do.
Sure, I want to win eventsand show that our products work,
but I need to know the tiresbecause that drives so much up because that's

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the only thing is keeping that carattached to the ground, the difference in
tires and what the car feels like. I have to get a real,
you know, real set of tireson it. You get your cash and
camera set, you get just alittle bit of stuff dialed in. Oh
said, man, you're for you. I remember the first time, one
of the first times I rode wasMike Petterford here in studio with me.

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I was like, it was thefirst time I rode with Kenny Anderson,
remember the uh Kenny Straighter Kenny Strader, the NASCAR driver, So the first
time I rode with him some ofone of the first times I rode UH
with Mike back in the day.With Kenny Strader, We're going into it.
It's a dirt track and he's headedright towards this wall, and I'm
like, we're going and this isthis is me not too many years ago,

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you know, like a decade,a decade and a half. I
learned how to wheel a lot sinceto them, but not you know,
not too many years ago. Butwe had straight to his wall. I'm
like, we're going way too fast. We're now gonna make the turn.
I want to die, you know, I wouldn't say that, but that's
what I'm thinking. I'm like,oh, we're going way, he's got
ways. We're done. We're done, We're dead any minute. I'm gonna
go right in that wall. Andman, he hung it out and just

(01:05:48):
railed that whole thing. Somehow gotthat thing to stick. And I was
like, what the just happened?You know, first time going to turn
it high planes. I remember thebottleneck of the straight away. I'm like,
we're going way too fast, allright, never mind, we got
it. We got it. Soyeah, man, it's it's amazing when
you put a tire on a littlebit of castle camber and some shocks all

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of a sudden. You know,I'm like, oh, oh yeah,
I'm making other people feel that wayin my car. Yeah yeah. And
that's, you know, one ofthe reasons I do all the testing I
do. Every time we get acar like the dark Horse, I put
it out there, the dealer deliveredit to the track. I drove it
for the very first time from paddockto grid and on the track at five

(01:06:34):
miles on o'clock, and I gota good baseline time for that car.
And I've gone back four times since. And the first time we went back
with just camber plants, and thenwe went back with some control arms to
get more camera and then we changedthe brake paths, and then we changed
entires. And I can show peoplefor dozens of cars, this is what
they run on this ninety second roadcourse where I've got eight hundred laps.

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I can drive it my sleep.I mean, I'd be good anywhere other
track, but I know that trackand this is what it ran stock and
this is what coil overs do.It's worth two and a half seconds.
What is two and a half secondsequate two to Pueblo or how big is
your track. Let's let's do themath and it's worth three seconds there.
So that I can tell people confidentlyon that spring rate, with this shop

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and that car and this kind oftire, this is what you can see.
And there's not a lot of shopsthat test as much as we do,
twenty nine days at the track lastyear to do all of this testing,
to do competition, so I cangive people, and I drive a
lot of cars. Some days I'lldrive three four cars in the same day,
and people like, hey, drivemy GT five hundred, drive my
three fifty. You put a lapin and I could say, oh,

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I've got a video of that.I drove that C eight at this track
on that day, or this Cseven, and I can give people,
you know, here's what I feltlike it did in stock form and it
needs X, Y and Z,or the pads were terrible. I can
give them that information and give,you know, give them the confidence to
know that I'm going to go fromstock to what this guy's selling me.

(01:07:58):
And I'm probably gonna drop about threesecond if I don't completely say, you
know, I w wasn't the samething I was. Where's the uh?
I went to the the course outof in Vegas. What's the road?
The driving school? No Radford ratrat for Racing. I went out to
rad for Racing out there, andyou know, they were changing all the

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brakes and brake pads on the cars. And there's another game changer, you
know, like you said, ifyou see these steps, you know you're
clicking off, you know, threetints here, four or five tenths there.
Brakes are another way that just dynamicallychanged the ability of the car and
how it can you know, getaround the track. It's like that thing

(01:08:44):
we always had motocross. You know, if you're not on the break or
on the gas, you're wasting time. You need to either be on one
of those because everything else you're justwasting time. There shouldn't be a period
or a point on the track you'renot either on the gas or on the
breaking and break. Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. Well, and it's
so much, it so much dependson the car itself, Like the c

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a Corvette. Breaks are perfect.You don't have to do you can't wear
it out of breaks, you can'toverheat it even at high altitude up here
on a hot day. So thoseare perfect. Other cars, you're gonna
have to change that right away becauseit's not gonna work. Yeah. And
when you get that combination right,man, that's when things get fun and

(01:09:30):
lethal. And obviously you know toget that right combo. Anybody's got that
much time, that much you know, prep, work, R and D.
You know, little moves make bigchanges. And when you can document
each of those little moves, putit all together in a package, then
you got something really really worthwhile.And really it's gonna be a game changer

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for you, your car, yourplatform, how you drive, and how
you can handle it. So bigmoves there, man, check them out.
Vorsock Motorsports As always, Terry's abadass avenue on man. Sorry,
so much time and uh I justlove it. Vorcechlog Motorsports. Spell that
for everybody who has trouble women fancyinto the alphabet words man, Yeah,

(01:10:13):
yeah, yeah, B O,R, S H L A G vorcelog
just like it sounds. Vorschlog MotorSports there you go. Man, way
cool, Terry, Thanks for thetime, brother, always cool having you
on Man many will good talking toyou guys, Ahi Man later, bro
dude, just chilling it. It'ssuch a fun and honest to god,
it's such a fun, fun upgradeon your car when when you go from

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it's shocking to see how you know, a factory suspension is on a Camaro
and a Mustang on any of that, and how just a little upgrade in
in that world in realm can significantlychange just how the car rides, feels
and performs. Uh. Because youknow, regardless if it's a performance car,
especially those big boats on the mopartsman, challengers and chargers are heavy

(01:11:01):
betties man, and they're plush.You know, they're really soft in the
track, you know. So whenyou can take that and take some of
that you know, softness that they'veengineered in the car to make it smooth
to the groove like sandwich bread,you take that out. Yeah, you
take that stuff out and get alittle feedback, You get to feel the
road a little bit, upgrade thatperformance and tighten it up. Man,

(01:11:25):
the car just loves it. Yeah, I love it. I'm loving I'm
loving the golf our buddy, andwe just did the same thing. We
researched it gave it a little morepower, a little more traction, five
and a half seconds faster out athot that's crazy. Oh yeah, big
moves and small increments, man,So it's cool to document that way.

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Vorslock Motorsports. Check that out.We gotta break coming back out and swinging
for the fence. Will he Behis garage, wanted to sit with nine
KVP I Willy Be's garage. You'reback in Willie B's garage. Yeah,
man, we to it to begarages. Ay a shout out my man.

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Jim Hull, he runs this companycalled Janis Polishing in Carra Springs.
He just sent me to text.He's like, hey, I finally found
out how to get you on myapp. Man. Uh, because you
know we have k if you hadany springs, but they don't. They
don't carry the garage show, whichyou know in which kind of sucks.
But he runs an amazing polishing likestain of seal lunum anything like that.

(01:12:30):
Oh my god, he's he's thebest, look hands down the state,
like getting that survivor uh chrome andstainless. Back to a showroom. Look
is is just amazing. He's he'sunbelievable. It got a super fast car,
Cup Cars, and he's bringing backa Vega, a Vega wagon that

(01:12:50):
was just bad ass out on thestreet. It was. It was a
killer down south of those I hadlike I had liked. I had a
seventy two Vega Wagon. Man,I had a and it was like canary
yellow. I had the same exactcar and a four speed and they were
geared so tall. Yeah remember yeahspeed, uh huh yeah, yeah,

(01:13:14):
I love that car. Ye.I put a little roller three fifty and
fed that thing so much nitrous likea one to twenty five dry kit.
I clovered the pistons like they werefull on, like clovered like the ring
lands were way up and the pistonssunk down like a diesel piston when I
took that thing apart. But it'sthe very first introduction to the nitrosus,
and that was the car I put. I put my nitrous tank on full

(01:13:34):
display right in the back of poltof the seats down and had that platform.
I mounted the bottle right there soeverybody can see it like a big
fu It's a big ass bottle.And I'd run, I'd run a full
ass twenty pound bottle every weekend,just burn it up. But yeah,
man, I love that little Vegawagon. But he's got a real legit

(01:13:55):
Vega that he's uh, he's bringingback this summer. I can't I can't
wait to see it. But youguys ever need any stainless or chrome or
anything like redone like that, checkout Jay and S Polishing from Karl springs'
kay is he's nuts with it.I gotta tell you what else. So
the Foundations we're doing wrapping up carsto Christmas. I God, I've yet

(01:14:17):
to reach reach out to a fewpeople, so hopefully they won't spoil their
surprise. But there's a few carsand a few give aoys still to uh
to go down. We're finishing upa few cars this weekend. And we
were lucky man for the last numberof years. This is why I tell
people take this as a good lifelesson. This has happened. This has

(01:14:39):
happened more times in my life thanthat I could damn your account. Well,
not that, not quite that many, but it's happened a lot.
Whenever, whenever I've been approached aboutdoing things, and and there's things in
my life related to things I'm superpassionate about. For example, I back

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I don't know when I first startedhosting the Thursday night block party event for
the my High Nationals. I didso for no fee, for nothing.
Mopart approached me and say, hey, you're a big Mopart guy. They
hooked me up. I think Sportywas the guy, and they're like,
you know what, you'd be agreat host to have, just host this
event. And I would always whenthey say what do you want to do

(01:15:23):
this, I'd be like, don'tworry about it, man, give me
a couple tickets if something really easy. I never like outpriced what I thought
I was worth, and I don'tthink I'm worth much. I just said,
you know, I'm gonna average studenton the microphone. But I just
did so because I loved it andI was passionate about it, and that
tended to shine and show through,and they would always have me back.

(01:15:44):
And you know, at one point, after hosting it for like three or
four years, they said, really, we feel bad we got to pay
you something, so we're gonna giveyou like, you know, I think
it was like five hundred bucks ora thousand Bucks to host that event down
there, and I was like,man, I've always thought that was amazing.
Well, fast forward is my CemaCars several years ago. So the
Mopart guys had pivot and remember itwas the Mopart Maha Nationals and became a

(01:16:04):
Dodge Maha Nationals. Well, duringthat pivot, the Mopar team that did
so much marketing and I hosted forthe event for well, they moved to
Dodge. Dodge absorbed them. Oneof the guys became the marketing guy became
the ambassador for Cred Engines. Wellthat that guy that I worked, you
know, for nothing for and justdone favors for for so many years and

(01:16:28):
never asked for anything. He askedme up and says, hey, man,
you know what, I'm the headguy for Mopark Cradit Engines. I'm
gonna get you a nasty Gen threesupercharged red Eye power plant for that you
know, that wide body charger thatyou even spending so much time at.
And so next thing I know,many had me fill out a form online
and that I had honestly got likea hellcat red Eye power plant showed up

(01:16:54):
my garage one day, just boothand I was like, what the flip
flop that was amazing. So that'swhat used for that car. So case
in point. I hosted a toolI got introduced to some people at SIMA
one year and they're like, Willy, we hear you're a great host.
Would you mind doing this event forus where a bunch of tool manufacturers from

(01:17:15):
Snap on Corn Well, you knowMonster, you guys know me, Monster,
Maco, all these people would cometogether and they'd have this massive buying
event and if you're a shop ora truck owner or whatever, you come
down here, you buy all thisstuff and you'll buy it it much cheaper
than what you would even get itfor, you know through your other networking
events, and you would have anopportunity to win cars. And you know,

(01:17:36):
they gave away like ten thousand dollarscash like three or four times and
had a big event just all slingingtools with all these different manufacturers. Well,
when they asked me to host it, I was like, yeah,
I'll host it. They're like,what do you want? And I'm like,
can you bring my family down andlet them enjoy some time on the
beach Because for me, I don'tmind work, but it's the experience and

(01:18:01):
what I get in the connection withmy family, you know, being able
to take the family and put himon the pace that makes me so happy.
So I put the bar there.I'm like, hey man, here's
why I do it for you knownothing, Give me five hundred bucks and
just give me a couple extra nightsat the hotel so me and the family
can have a little experience. Andthey were like, oh, that's so
cool. You thank you so much. Well, guess what happened when I

(01:18:23):
did that a couple of times ina row. I did that a couple
times in a row, and Imet people that were great car enthusiasts,
networking people. So I when Ineeded a scanner a couple of years ago,
I needed a scanner for cars toChristmas, and Bosh, I knew
the guy from Boston just from doingthat tool thing. He's like, Dude,
I love what you do for carsand Christmas. I'll send you a

(01:18:45):
scanner. Dude dropped a seven thousanddollars scanner to the Foundation. I called
a buddy Mike from an Atlas equipmentlast year and I said they might Hey,
man, I bought old tire equipmentthat I've used for the Foundation I've
used personal. I bought this likeold, like nineteen eighties tire balancer and

(01:19:08):
wheel mounting machine. Oh yeah,yeah, you got the wheel mount and
it you know, can clasp thebead on it and blow the tire and
it's worked. It doesn't do tiresover like eighteen inches because it's so old.
So I needed something a little moreupdated. But I bought this,
you know, on my own dimeseveral years ago, for like five hundred
bucks for each machine. So itgot us through. Or reached out to

(01:19:30):
Mike and said, hey, man, all these cars got bigger than eighteen
inch rooms now, so I needsomething and I'll buy it if you're okay
with it. Just cannot get adecent deal. And next thing I know,
man, I had this ungodly cooltire machine and bounce to show up
my house and it was He's like, oh, I'll take care of you.
Oh yeah, And he sent methis stuff for nothing. So the

(01:19:51):
reason I bring all this up andsay it sometimes in the short it may
seem like you're giving something up oryou're not doing it for maybe a fair
person. Maybe you're just doing itbecause you're passionate about it. And I
highly encourage that because a lot oftimes, whether it's life, whether it's
cars of Christmas, whether it's justnetworking or meeting people you're shaking hands with.

(01:20:13):
Man, relationships can go a longway, and sometimes just doing something
because you're passionate about it can openup enough doors where it doesn't matter,
you know, if you're making youknow, your dream fortune, Like,
don't be so short term gold thatyou don't see the benefit of, you
know, doing something for free,or helping out, or commit a little

(01:20:35):
more time than what you probably should, or just doing something because it gives
you a little bit of an experienceand it puts a little notch in the
belt, or you have the opportunityto network with other people that are similar
in the way you think and thingsyou love and enjoy. Because it can
go such a long way, andthere's been such a benefit for the foundation
because relationships are what matter in life, and I really think that's that's the

(01:20:59):
lead things that have taken away fromall these experienced relationships. Man, shaking
somebody's hand, get it out andbeing able to have some one on one
time it goes so far in life. Word, it does. Man,
it's crazy. Couldn't couldn't have saidit better myself. Absolutely, it's just
been a blessing man. So nowlook, if any of the BFI family,
if y'all need look, y'all needtires or tires changed or something.

(01:21:23):
Balance, yo, man, Igot you see so many. Hey,
Scoop just did this the other day. Scoop let his girlfriend's kid do his
breaks because last time Scoop went outgot breaks done. We just had this
show up at Carson Christmas. Lasttime he got breaks done. I think
they just did the front breaks andthey hit him for like fourteen or fifteen

(01:21:45):
hundred dollars. He's doing those.Oh okay, he's doing this afternoon.
So a lot of people, youknow, they just can't absorb a cost
of a repair nowadays, you know, and you know breaks. And I
about flipped when one of the ladiesthat we gave a car to for cars
for Christmas this year sent me herbill on ball joints and breaks that she

(01:22:11):
had on another car. They justthey they hear it for over four thousand
dollars for ball joints and breaks.Labor Labor rates at just about every shop
have gone up like double in thelast five year. You heard Terry from
Vorsock Motorsports say he can't find,you know, find the people. He's
got to work. He just can'tfind the people. There's something you said
about that too. Trade school isgetting out, getting your hands thirty turning

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wrench. There's a lot of moneyin that, man, and you'll always
have a job. Geez. Yeah, some boys, I know, mechanics
are commanding like you know, thinkit was shop rate shop rates now one
hundred and eighty bucks. That's notuncommon for shop rate for an hour.
You got eighty bucks, sixty bucksthat's going to that mechanic. The rest
is going to shop you know,tools supplies the shop, you know,

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making it its share as well.But yeah, there's a reason everything's going
through the roof. There's a reasonyou're getting you know. I saw Bill
the other day for breaks and balljoints four three hundred dollars. She had
to take out a loan and shedid so on the car that wasn't even
running. Like that's how bad ofshape it is. So yeah, if
I could help out the BPF family, Look, man, I'll put some
tires in the cars. I'm notgonna give you a warrant. You so

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suck it. But I'll change sometires, I'll flip some coins for you.
You know, I hope you outanywhere I can, man, because
I've done that a long time,whether it's you know, in some symbol
like oil changes, crap like that. It's just crazy what you have to
pay nowadays. So as much asit's as crazy for what you're paying for

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things, there's something to be saidabout doing things because you're getting experienced,
or you're getting the ability to network, or getting the opportunity to hang around
or be around some like minded individualsbecause sometimes you know, you just never
know where it's gonna take it orwhat doors that's gonna open. You know.
Just had some really and I'm fullyintended on paying. He's like,

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yah, I love what you alldo. You're just you know, it's
been awesome just working with you thelast couple of years. You never asked
for anything. This is where Ican help you. What do you need?
And I'm like, well, Iwas gonna look at a tire changer
and a balancer. I got someunbelievable packages and I said, well,
this is what I looked at online. He's like, oh, that's mid
grade stuff. Let me get you, let me get you the best one.

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We got something called platinum we go, so you just never know.
Man, it's been a blessing.God have a blessing that Carris at the
same time, but no doubt ablessing. All right. Look, Mike
Pettiford, go for it services realquick. What you got working for the
Winner. A lot of people don'tthink the Winner is a good time to
go hit the track, but itmay be the best time because nobody's on
it. That's right. It's aperfect time if you want to get your

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seca full competition license. We're workingwith people now. It's five days through
the school. We can do it, and the tracks are open year round,
so it's perfect most of the time. When we're out there this time
of year, we're the only onesout there. So if you want to
have a really great experience, yourown private racetrack, your own private instructor

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coach, this is the time,so come see us. Go for its
services now. He talked a lotabout you know, suspension, cornering,
breaking, all that pune stuff today. That's kind of what he goes over
and teaches. And he's got alot of cool cars to do so right
now. He just scored a brandnew Corvette. Tell everybody about that.

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Can people take take a lap inthat can? Of course? Yeah?
Score do your class. Yeah.Any of the cars that you see on
the website, go for it servicesdot com. You can rent, you
can drive on the street. Ican give you a ride at speed on
the track. All of those carsare for that purpose. We had a

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we had a fifteen and a halfyear old that his mom got him an
hour ride on the street. Hedidn't even have his life license yet and
he was in the orange Corvette andman, you don't get a bigger smile
than because that's a fast car.Oh yeah yeah. During during the end,
he goes, do you mind ifI launch it? I said,
if we were on the highway,nobody was on there, I said,

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pull it over, launch it.Yeah. Man, that's awesome and big
smiles and big memories. Sure.So yeah, go the number four,
go for it services dot Com andeat anything like that. Anything from that
all the way to a cd L. He will help you out with and
get you a tuned up behind thewheel if you if you just got an

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r V and you just took outyour rear windows, trying to back it
up. We can get squared away. There you go, man, All
right, next week I am out. I'm going down and you know that
experience thing I was just telling youabout going down and hosting a Federated Auto
Parts kind of a kickoff twenty fourdeal. They got new courses and classes

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as certifications, all that type stuff. So I'm gonna be a keynote speaker
on Thursday night, and I'm actuallydoing a few of the classes as certification
stuff and just just wild training coursesthey have available. I'm gonna take advantage
of some of it too, getin some training and then some beach time

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from a kiddos on Saturday and Sunday. So since I'm working on Thursday or
Friday, so know we used garagetomorrow back the week after that, hopefully
we'll be talking some rock and rollcar show. I don't have any updates
for the Rock and Road car Show. I'm trying to do that as we
speak, but a lot of peoplelike me are kind of curious as to
where it's gonna go, where we'regonna end up, what street we're gonna

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have to take over to do so, so hopefully we'll have some answers,
or at least be able to geta sort of a flow chart of where
we can go knock on some doorsand what's the next for the rock and
Roll Car Show and just what whatare we going to do without a dragstrip?
Man, I mean, it's justwild to think we don't have a

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drag strip. Maybe we could teamsomething up with Pueblo where we could take
some high rides from up here onthe north side and go down there and
do a North versus South colorade ofdeal. Yeah, they've got a drag
strip. I mean it's not asglorious it's Spandon here was, of course,
but man graduates there a bunch,and I did cut our Street out

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Laws down there, so it wasa great place to corras Street out Laws.
We had a great home there.So I think the track for quarter
myle racing is legit. I'd liketo do a little daytime road course,
nighttime you know, quarter mile dealor eighth mile deal, just kind of
have a you know, something wherewe could have fun on both spectrums because
it get turned ten nice and slipperyfrom the burnouts. Oh yeah, man,

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But you know it's gotta be alove for both themagine there's a good
car, and you know, findthe ultimate street car. Will be able
to find out somewhere on the upperechelon of the daytime you know trials and
the nighttime trials. Be kind ofcool to see what car staying supreme.
But all things discussed to talk aboutas we moved forward with the Rock and
Roll Car Show ten fifty four.Now time to say goodbye you guys.

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