August 26, 2025 • 28 mins
On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast (08/26/25), Hank answers the following questions:
If you are a loving person, is that enough to get you into heaven? Ryan - Nashville, TN (0:52)
What are your thoughts on bringing Intelligent Design into the classroom alongside evolution? Chad - Kannapolis, NC (6:09)
Is the Yahweh movement cultic? Joe - OH (15:10)
What are your thoughts on Behemoth, and how do we interpret the language used to describe it? What about the canopy theory? Joe - Okarche, OK (21:35)
If you are a loving person, is that enough to get you into heaven? Ryan - Nashville, TN (0:52)
What are your thoughts on bringing Intelligent Design into the classroom alongside evolution? Chad - Kannapolis, NC (6:09)
Is the Yahweh movement cultic? Joe - OH (15:10)
What are your thoughts on Behemoth, and how do we interpret the language used to describe it? What about the canopy theory? Joe - Okarche, OK (21:35)
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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here's Hank Hanagraph.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Thanks, I mush Rendy. We'll go to our callers. First
step Ryan and Nashville, Tennessee. Hi, Ryan, Hi, Hey Hank.
How are you good?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
How are you doing great? Real quick?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Thank you for your ministry. It's been a true blessing
in my life over the past year. So I had
a discussion with a friend today and one of the
things we were talking about was the Bible, as you
like to put it, as the infallible repository for demptive revelation.
The words he used to describe the Bible were a
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I guess a loose guide at best. He says he
believes in the Bible, but he has a hard time
grasping that it was written in such a long time
ago that it can apply to us today. So the
first thing I did was I sent him a copy
of your book has Got Spoken. But then we started
getting into it that that kind of went into talking
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about Jesus a little bit, and his point of view
was is that as long as you have love in
your life, you can go to heaven because Jesus is love.
And when I tried to explain to him and we
talked about what I said, you have to have Jesus
is the way, the truth and the lives you have,
the only way to God is for Jesus. And it
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seems to me that, if I'm correct, he has a
little more of a liberalistic view here, a more worldly view.
Is that a fair assessment to say what he's thinking there?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, Well, you know what he's done is he concocted
a god of his own making. The God that he
believes in is a fictional god. It is true that
the God of the Bible is a god of love,
but it is equally true that the God of the
Bible is a God of justice, and you don't have
a full orbed concept of who God is unless you
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recognize that. And so we need to realize that from
a biblical perspective, and of course we can demonstrate that
the Bible's divine as opposed to merely human in origin.
But from a Biblical perspective, the God of the Bible
is altogether righteous, holy and just. And for sinful human
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beings to be reconciled to an altogether holy God, there
has to be some kind of a bridge from our
unrighteousness to His holiness. And that bridge is ultimately provided
through the person and work of Jesus Christ, who is
God condescended in human flesh to do what we could
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not do. He lived the perfect life which we could
never live, and offers us his perfection as an absolutely
free gift, a gift by which we can be reconciled
to God. And I think it's very important for your
friend to recognize a couple of things. Number One, that
there is no option in an age of scientific enlightenment
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other than God created the universe. Secondly, that Jesus Christ
is demonstratably God, most notably through the immutable fact of
his resurrection. And thirdly, that you can build a credible,
cumulative case for saying that the Bible is divine as
opposed to merely human in origin. Now you sent him
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my book, and that in part communicates these truths so
that he can recognize that your faith is faith in
irrefutable fact. His faith is faith in fiction. In other words,
he's made up a god in his own image, as
opposed to describing the God who has revealed himself not
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only in creation but in the pages of the Bible.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Okay, and so as far as him, you know me trying.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
To get across.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Obviously you'll have the book. But as we have heard
the discussions, I mean, is there is there There's obviously
not a quick way, but is there a couple of
things that you would reel off to him right away?
Just explaining how the Bible can relate to us today
even though it was written so long ago.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, I mean, think about the Book of Proverbs. I
think that anyone reading through the Book of Proverbs will
immediately recognize its wisdom and applicability to everyday life. I
remember doing a message on Proverbs, and I had memorized
the Book of Proverbs in Hawaii many many years ago,
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and I was quoting prolifically from Proverbs in the message,
but I was doing it extemporaneously, and I was doing
it at a major business affair, and business leaders were
coming up to me saying, that is the most brilliant, articulate,
pithy maxim that I've ever heard, referring to one of
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the things that I might have quoted. Then another business
making Oh that was unbelievable. I've never heard anything so profound. Well,
I was able to explain to him that these were
my words, These were the words the wisest man who
ever lived, who literally gave us away by which to
not only have knowledge and understanding, but the app implication
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of that in wisdom.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Oh wow, that's I didn't even think that. That's great.
Thanks so much, take, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Hey, you got to thank you so much for your
call back to the phone lines. We'll talk next to
Chad in North Carolina. Hi, Chad.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I think it's always a privileged to hear your thoughts
on things. You've been a real inspiration to me over
the years. I'm actually a science teacher at a public
school in North Carolina teaching eighth grade science, and right
now we're discussed an evolution in age of the Earth
and all of that. One are the current policies as
far as bringing intelligence design into the classroom alongside evolution, Well.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I mean, I think you ought to be able to
communicate truth. It's unfortunate that in an age and an
epic and a country in which we value free speech,
that free speech is being muzzled and people are commanded,
as it were, to walk lockstep with demagoguery as opposed
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to true science. You know, the reality is that the
evolutionary paradigm, which is now being proliferated prominently in schools
is no longer tenable in an age of scientific enlightenment.
Not only that it is very harmful because it is
teaching racism. Now I'm not suggesting that all that teach
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evolution or races, but the paradigm itself is precisely so,
because it posits that there is an evolution within the races,
not only an evolution from kinds to other kinds, but
there's a gradation of races. And therefore, as Darwin said,
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the Caucasian race beat the Turkish hollow in the struggle
for existence, and he said, at no very future distant date,
an endless number of lower races will have been eliminated
by higher civilized races throughout the world. Not only so,
but if the evolutionary paradigm is true, true, and everything
can be explained through natural processes, then our lives too
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are fatalistically determined by brain chemistry and genetics, and therefore
you don't have any basis for right and wrong anymore.
So I think that it is a horrific thought that
within the public school we ought to lockstep only teach
one paradigm for origins. We think public schools should teach
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the controversy, teach all the evidence for and against neo
Darwinian evolutionary theory, and let the truth lead wherever it may.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
And I'm in full agreement with you there absolutely called
I mean, you know, I mean, I think with other
subjects they say we want to promote critical thinking in
the classroom. But when you have a one sided view
and science, if you're not really promoting critical thinking, it's
like the one subject where they say, Okay, this is
the way it is. We're going to teach global warming.
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We're going to teach evolution and anything else is needs
to be kicked to the wayside because we don't want
to promote thinking on this.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well, that's exactly right, I mean, and you find the
incredible impact of that. Bill Maher in one of his
stand up comitic lines, was talking about the fact that
when he was young, he used to believe in a
five thousand year old earth. But again, the reason he
believed in that was because he's not a thinking individual.
He doesn't think deeply. He simply recapitulates things that he hears.
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I mean, if you look at the universe, you can
look at the night sky and see a star in infancy,
you can see a white dwarf star, a star that's
burned out its nuclear fusion, and you can see a
star in midlife. And so the evidence is there for
any thinking person. And that's precisely what the Bible tells us.
The heavens declared the glory of God. This guy's proclaimed
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the work of his hands, and so we can see
in general revelation a lot about the majesty and the
immensity of the universe that God has created. You think
about the speed of light in and of itself is
a powerful demonstration of just how majestic this universe is.
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I when we're talking about a universe that has one
hundred billion galaxies, each with one hundred billion stars. So
you think that the immensity of this universe, it can't
be pawned off to try clever little cliches. It has
to be looked at from the standpoint of true science.
And the original inventors of sciences or were coming out
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of the Christian universities were men not only of science,
but men of God. So now we have this false
dichotomy between science and scripture. But that false dichotomy shouldn't exist.
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
Thanks very much for Randy. Let's go right back to
our phone callers. Next up is Joe and Ohio. Hi Joe, Hi, Hank.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
I wanted to ask you a question today and then
I'm gonna tell you exactly what prompted it. The Yahweh movement.
Are they a cult?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Well, they certainly can be. Yes, it depends on the permutation.
But buying and large, I would say that this is
a cultic kind of movement.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
I was flipped through some radio stations a while back
and came across the program that you may have have
not heard of, called a Shattering Myths, and the guy
that hosts it, he calls himself YadA He's written such
books as an Introduction to God YadA Ya, and a
Prophet of Doom, and a couple other books. I don't
know all of them, but mainly in the first hour
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of his program he focuses a lot about politics and
stuff and shattering myths of it. And then in the
second hour he turns his focus to religion. And this
is where the red flags go up. And maybe you
can confirm this for me, but basically what he says
is he says that the only true name for God
is Yahwa. That's how they pronounce it. He says that
the cross is a pagan symbol, that Yosha, that's how
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they say it. Died on a pole, not on a cross.
And after he died on the pole, his soul went
to shield was I guess it partook of the unlevened
feast of Bukuda. I think it's how you say it.
I'm having a hard time with some of these words.
And then basically came out of there, peared to the disciples,
and then went back up to Yahwen was reconciled, and
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just as he was, we can also be reconciled. Now
they believe that you have to follow the seven steps
of Mitkra. Are you familiar with that?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah? I mean all of this is just nonsense. I
mean it is from start to finish. First of all,
the whole notion of Yahweh is somewhat contrived in that
the unspeakable four letters don't even have vowels, they only
have consonants. So we arbitrarily add consonants so that we
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can pronounce the unspeakable or the unpronounceable letters. So they are,
by their own definition, coming up with a pronunciation which
they believe to be true, but has no basis in
reality whatsoever. Secondly, let me say this, this whole notion
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that they talk about with respect to the cross and
a pull, the idea of crucifixion was invented by the
Persians and then later popularized by the Romans. And there's
no question whatsoever now as a result of archaeological finds
that Jesus Christ was crucified in the very manner depicted
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in the Word of God. As far as the after
life is concerned, we have a very credible repository of
precisely what happened with respect to Jesus Christ, how he
died and how he rose from the dead, and how
that resurrection is an earnest for our own resurrection. So
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as you talk about groups like this, what they're doing
is they're coming up with their own mis and fables.
But the distinction between that and what we have in
Christianity is that our faith is ordered on the basis
of real history and real evidence, which is to say
that people, the particulars the places that you find in
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scripture are rooted in real history, real evidence, not in
syncretistic beliefs or mythology.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Well, is it true, Hank, that they also believe that
Paul was a false prophet, that he was anti Torah,
anti Yoshan. I mean, do some of them believe that?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Well, yes, and they're absolutely wrong. What Paul recognized is
precisely what Jesus Christ said, that he did not come
to abolish the Torah, but rather to fulfill it. He said,
until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not
the least stroke of a pen, will by any means,
disappear from the law until everything has been accomplished. And
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Paul elucidates that and shows that Jesus Christ is the
only one who could emerge through the doorway of the
Old Testament prophets.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Yeah, and they also believe that if you have a
Christian Bible that that's bad because the word Bible comes
from a Greek god, Biblio or something like that. I mean,
I didn't know it went this far, Hank. I knew
they denied the Trinity, but does it really go this
far with them?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I mean, yeah, it absolutely does. And you know, these
kinds of arguments like Bible and trinity and so forth.
The fact that either there's a genetic fallacy or the
idea that the Trinity, for an example, is not found
in the scripture has nothing to do with what we're
communicating as Christians. All we're doing is using a word
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that modifies what we find in the scripture. What do
we find in scripture? Well, we find that the Bible,
in both Old and New Testaments is fiercely monotheistic. There's
only one God. Further, we find that both Old and
New Testament communicate that God the Father is God, that
Jesus Christ is God, that the Holy Spirit is God,
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and even further that Father's said and Holy Spirit are
eternally distinct. So what we do is we now bow
our need to God's revelation of himself to us, and
of course we have codified that revelation with a word
so that we can communicate, Well, here's what we believe,
and here's what that word actually means.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
And what do they read if they don't believe in
the Bible? Do they have a Bible they read? And
do they meet? Because I know they also believe the
church is a pagan institution.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah. Well what they do is they come up with
their own substitute scriptures and those substitute scriptures are either
supposed revelations or new revelations that they make up as
they go along. I mean, that's the problem. You have
to ultimately have an authority, and that authority has to
be credible. They don't, we do.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Yeah. So do they have churches that they meet in it?
Do they not meet at all?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well? No, they do meet. But again, they have a
completely different organizational structure than what you find an authentic
New Testament Christianity. And you have correctly pointed out some
of the major deviations. And again, and this is exactly
what we're called to do. Use the deviations as springboards
or opportunities to communicate truth. Let's go back to the phone lines.
Talk to Joe in Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Hi, Joe, Oh, I got a question that's been kind
of interesting whenever people bring up age of the earth
kind of questions and you talk to them as for example,
Job and in the Genesis story you kind of relate
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to metaphors. Well, my question is, well, I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Agree with your characterization of what I do, but you
can go on with your question.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Okay. Anyway, you basically say it's a form of literature,
I'll leave with that. And my question is like this
when you talked about Behemoth the other day, and then
I guess I have a canopy theory how the God
divides the water into three different you know, above the earth,
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below the earth, and above the heavens. Anyway, how do
you explain the physical characteristics in the ex for instance,
Behemoth that talks about it, where to actually find one?
And how do you relate that to a literal or
literary Sure.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, well it's crucial to note the literary progression of Job.
What you find in the thirty plus chapters of his speculations.
God answers Job out of the storm, and in essence,
God asked Job if he would like to try his
hand at running the universe for a while, and then
he gets to after asking about who fathers the drops
of dew? Who can tip over the jars of water
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in heaven? Who gives the horse his strength? Does the
ego sore at your command? Then he gets to Behemoth,
who ranks first among the works of God? Or the
sea dragon? Can you pull in Leviathan with a fish hook?
And that, of course is referring to what is chronicled
in Job forty and forty one. So the literary progression
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in Job moves from creation to creatures to the cherub,
who once ranked first in the order of creation, and
in the literary progression of the Bible, the monster is vanquished. So,
interpreting scripture and light to scripture, which is of course
a basic bedrock a biblical interpretation, the literary personification as
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Satan becomes very apparent. Of course, in Genesis he is
presented as an alluring serpent that tempts humanity to fall
into lives of perpetual sin terminated by death. In the
Book of Psalms, he is portrayed as a multi headed
monster opposing the purposes of God. In Isaiah, he's a
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coiling serpent emerging out of the primal waters. In Revelation,
he's a red dragon. And by the way, when the
Book of Revelation communicates that Satan is a red dragon,
no one takes that literally because obviously dragons are the
stuff of mythology, not biblical theology. So this is not
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what Satan looks like. It is what Satan is like.
And he uses that depiction because Satan personifies the extremities
of evil. So in some Leviathan and Behemoth are not dinosaurs.
They're personifications that illustrate a metaphysical reality. And as such,
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the mythology the dragon underscores the reality of the devil.
That's what's going on with respect to Behemoth in the
Book of Job. By the way, I've depicted all of
this in a book called the Creation answer Book. As
far as the canopy theory is concerned, the canopy theory
posits that a blanket of water vapor separated the water
under sky from the waters above it until the time
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of the flood. Well, what is the death knell of
this kind of a theory. It is that the canopy
theory is the waters above the skies and the expanse
holding them back are found in the Biblical text after
Noah's flood, just as they were before it. So as
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aptly noted by some Young Earth creationist literature, a blanket
of water vapor prior to the flood would have made
the surface of the earth intolerably hot, So a vapor
canon could not have been a significant source of the floodwaters.
And I think that we need to just look at
that credibly and carefully and dispense with that kind of mythology.
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We're out of here for today. We'll look forward to
seeing you tomorrow right here on the Bible anser Man Broadcast.
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words of Scripture merely human in origin? Or are they,
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and reflection, Hank Henagraph's monumental book Has God Spoken answers
what is surely the most important question facing our world.
In Has God Spoken? Memorable Proofs of the Bible's Divine inspiration,
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Hank counters the contentions of the Bible attackers and clearly
shows that belief in the Holy Scriptures is not a
guess or wishful thinking. It is the only logical conclusion
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Our desire is to equip you to not only defend
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here's Hank Hanagraph.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Thanks, I mush Rendy. We'll go to our callers. First
step Ryan and Nashville, Tennessee. Hi, Ryan, Hi, Hey Hank.
How are you good?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
How are you doing great? Real quick?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Thank you for your ministry. It's been a true blessing
in my life over the past year. So I had
a discussion with a friend today and one of the
things we were talking about was the Bible, as you
like to put it, as the infallible repository for demptive revelation.
The words he used to describe the Bible were a
(01:24):
I guess a loose guide at best. He says he
believes in the Bible, but he has a hard time
grasping that it was written in such a long time
ago that it can apply to us today. So the
first thing I did was I sent him a copy
of your book has Got Spoken. But then we started
getting into it that that kind of went into talking
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about Jesus a little bit, and his point of view
was is that as long as you have love in
your life, you can go to heaven because Jesus is love.
And when I tried to explain to him and we
talked about what I said, you have to have Jesus
is the way, the truth and the lives you have,
the only way to God is for Jesus. And it
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seems to me that, if I'm correct, he has a
little more of a liberalistic view here, a more worldly view.
Is that a fair assessment to say what he's thinking there?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, Well, you know what he's done is he concocted
a god of his own making. The God that he
believes in is a fictional god. It is true that
the God of the Bible is a god of love,
but it is equally true that the God of the
Bible is a God of justice, and you don't have
a full orbed concept of who God is unless you
(02:44):
recognize that. And so we need to realize that from
a biblical perspective, and of course we can demonstrate that
the Bible's divine as opposed to merely human in origin.
But from a Biblical perspective, the God of the Bible
is altogether righteous, holy and just. And for sinful human
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beings to be reconciled to an altogether holy God, there
has to be some kind of a bridge from our
unrighteousness to His holiness. And that bridge is ultimately provided
through the person and work of Jesus Christ, who is
God condescended in human flesh to do what we could
(03:26):
not do. He lived the perfect life which we could
never live, and offers us his perfection as an absolutely
free gift, a gift by which we can be reconciled
to God. And I think it's very important for your
friend to recognize a couple of things. Number One, that
there is no option in an age of scientific enlightenment
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other than God created the universe. Secondly, that Jesus Christ
is demonstratably God, most notably through the immutable fact of
his resurrection. And thirdly, that you can build a credible,
cumulative case for saying that the Bible is divine as
opposed to merely human in origin. Now you sent him
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my book, and that in part communicates these truths so
that he can recognize that your faith is faith in
irrefutable fact. His faith is faith in fiction. In other words,
he's made up a god in his own image, as
opposed to describing the God who has revealed himself not
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only in creation but in the pages of the Bible.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Okay, and so as far as him, you know me trying.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
To get across.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Obviously you'll have the book. But as we have heard
the discussions, I mean, is there is there There's obviously
not a quick way, but is there a couple of
things that you would reel off to him right away?
Just explaining how the Bible can relate to us today
even though it was written so long ago.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, I mean, think about the Book of Proverbs. I
think that anyone reading through the Book of Proverbs will
immediately recognize its wisdom and applicability to everyday life. I
remember doing a message on Proverbs, and I had memorized
the Book of Proverbs in Hawaii many many years ago,
(05:17):
and I was quoting prolifically from Proverbs in the message,
but I was doing it extemporaneously, and I was doing
it at a major business affair, and business leaders were
coming up to me saying, that is the most brilliant, articulate,
pithy maxim that I've ever heard, referring to one of
(05:40):
the things that I might have quoted. Then another business
making Oh that was unbelievable. I've never heard anything so profound. Well,
I was able to explain to him that these were
my words, These were the words the wisest man who
ever lived, who literally gave us away by which to
not only have knowledge and understanding, but the app implication
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of that in wisdom.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Oh wow, that's I didn't even think that. That's great.
Thanks so much, take, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Hey, you got to thank you so much for your
call back to the phone lines. We'll talk next to
Chad in North Carolina. Hi, Chad.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I think it's always a privileged to hear your thoughts
on things. You've been a real inspiration to me over
the years. I'm actually a science teacher at a public
school in North Carolina teaching eighth grade science, and right
now we're discussed an evolution in age of the Earth
and all of that. One are the current policies as
far as bringing intelligence design into the classroom alongside evolution, Well.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I mean, I think you ought to be able to
communicate truth. It's unfortunate that in an age and an
epic and a country in which we value free speech,
that free speech is being muzzled and people are commanded,
as it were, to walk lockstep with demagoguery as opposed
(06:59):
to true science. You know, the reality is that the
evolutionary paradigm, which is now being proliferated prominently in schools
is no longer tenable in an age of scientific enlightenment.
Not only that it is very harmful because it is
teaching racism. Now I'm not suggesting that all that teach
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evolution or races, but the paradigm itself is precisely so,
because it posits that there is an evolution within the races,
not only an evolution from kinds to other kinds, but
there's a gradation of races. And therefore, as Darwin said,
(07:42):
the Caucasian race beat the Turkish hollow in the struggle
for existence, and he said, at no very future distant date,
an endless number of lower races will have been eliminated
by higher civilized races throughout the world. Not only so,
but if the evolutionary paradigm is true, true, and everything
can be explained through natural processes, then our lives too
(08:04):
are fatalistically determined by brain chemistry and genetics, and therefore
you don't have any basis for right and wrong anymore.
So I think that it is a horrific thought that
within the public school we ought to lockstep only teach
one paradigm for origins. We think public schools should teach
(08:25):
the controversy, teach all the evidence for and against neo
Darwinian evolutionary theory, and let the truth lead wherever it may.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
And I'm in full agreement with you there absolutely called
I mean, you know, I mean, I think with other
subjects they say we want to promote critical thinking in
the classroom. But when you have a one sided view
and science, if you're not really promoting critical thinking, it's
like the one subject where they say, Okay, this is
the way it is. We're going to teach global warming.
(08:57):
We're going to teach evolution and anything else is needs
to be kicked to the wayside because we don't want
to promote thinking on this.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well, that's exactly right, I mean, and you find the
incredible impact of that. Bill Maher in one of his
stand up comitic lines, was talking about the fact that
when he was young, he used to believe in a
five thousand year old earth. But again, the reason he
believed in that was because he's not a thinking individual.
He doesn't think deeply. He simply recapitulates things that he hears.
(09:29):
I mean, if you look at the universe, you can
look at the night sky and see a star in infancy,
you can see a white dwarf star, a star that's
burned out its nuclear fusion, and you can see a
star in midlife. And so the evidence is there for
any thinking person. And that's precisely what the Bible tells us.
The heavens declared the glory of God. This guy's proclaimed
(09:50):
the work of his hands, and so we can see
in general revelation a lot about the majesty and the
immensity of the universe that God has created. You think
about the speed of light in and of itself is
a powerful demonstration of just how majestic this universe is.
(10:14):
I when we're talking about a universe that has one
hundred billion galaxies, each with one hundred billion stars. So
you think that the immensity of this universe, it can't
be pawned off to try clever little cliches. It has
to be looked at from the standpoint of true science.
And the original inventors of sciences or were coming out
(10:37):
of the Christian universities were men not only of science,
but men of God. So now we have this false
dichotomy between science and scripture. But that false dichotomy shouldn't exist.
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
Thanks very much for Randy. Let's go right back to
our phone callers. Next up is Joe and Ohio. Hi Joe, Hi, Hank.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
I wanted to ask you a question today and then
I'm gonna tell you exactly what prompted it. The Yahweh movement.
Are they a cult?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Well, they certainly can be. Yes, it depends on the permutation.
But buying and large, I would say that this is
a cultic kind of movement.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
I was flipped through some radio stations a while back
and came across the program that you may have have
not heard of, called a Shattering Myths, and the guy
that hosts it, he calls himself YadA He's written such
books as an Introduction to God YadA Ya, and a
Prophet of Doom, and a couple other books. I don't
know all of them, but mainly in the first hour
(15:55):
of his program he focuses a lot about politics and
stuff and shattering myths of it. And then in the
second hour he turns his focus to religion. And this
is where the red flags go up. And maybe you
can confirm this for me, but basically what he says
is he says that the only true name for God
is Yahwa. That's how they pronounce it. He says that
the cross is a pagan symbol, that Yosha, that's how
(16:17):
they say it. Died on a pole, not on a cross.
And after he died on the pole, his soul went
to shield was I guess it partook of the unlevened
feast of Bukuda. I think it's how you say it.
I'm having a hard time with some of these words.
And then basically came out of there, peared to the disciples,
and then went back up to Yahwen was reconciled, and
(16:39):
just as he was, we can also be reconciled. Now
they believe that you have to follow the seven steps
of Mitkra. Are you familiar with that?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah? I mean all of this is just nonsense. I
mean it is from start to finish. First of all,
the whole notion of Yahweh is somewhat contrived in that
the unspeakable four letters don't even have vowels, they only
have consonants. So we arbitrarily add consonants so that we
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can pronounce the unspeakable or the unpronounceable letters. So they are,
by their own definition, coming up with a pronunciation which
they believe to be true, but has no basis in
reality whatsoever. Secondly, let me say this, this whole notion
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that they talk about with respect to the cross and
a pull, the idea of crucifixion was invented by the
Persians and then later popularized by the Romans. And there's
no question whatsoever now as a result of archaeological finds
that Jesus Christ was crucified in the very manner depicted
(17:54):
in the Word of God. As far as the after
life is concerned, we have a very credible repository of
precisely what happened with respect to Jesus Christ, how he
died and how he rose from the dead, and how
that resurrection is an earnest for our own resurrection. So
(18:14):
as you talk about groups like this, what they're doing
is they're coming up with their own mis and fables.
But the distinction between that and what we have in
Christianity is that our faith is ordered on the basis
of real history and real evidence, which is to say
that people, the particulars the places that you find in
(18:35):
scripture are rooted in real history, real evidence, not in
syncretistic beliefs or mythology.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Well, is it true, Hank, that they also believe that
Paul was a false prophet, that he was anti Torah,
anti Yoshan. I mean, do some of them believe that?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Well, yes, and they're absolutely wrong. What Paul recognized is
precisely what Jesus Christ said, that he did not come
to abolish the Torah, but rather to fulfill it. He said,
until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not
the least stroke of a pen, will by any means,
disappear from the law until everything has been accomplished. And
(19:15):
Paul elucidates that and shows that Jesus Christ is the
only one who could emerge through the doorway of the
Old Testament prophets.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Yeah, and they also believe that if you have a
Christian Bible that that's bad because the word Bible comes
from a Greek god, Biblio or something like that. I mean,
I didn't know it went this far, Hank. I knew
they denied the Trinity, but does it really go this
far with them?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I mean, yeah, it absolutely does. And you know, these
kinds of arguments like Bible and trinity and so forth.
The fact that either there's a genetic fallacy or the
idea that the Trinity, for an example, is not found
in the scripture has nothing to do with what we're
communicating as Christians. All we're doing is using a word
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that modifies what we find in the scripture. What do
we find in scripture? Well, we find that the Bible,
in both Old and New Testaments is fiercely monotheistic. There's
only one God. Further, we find that both Old and
New Testament communicate that God the Father is God, that
Jesus Christ is God, that the Holy Spirit is God,
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and even further that Father's said and Holy Spirit are
eternally distinct. So what we do is we now bow
our need to God's revelation of himself to us, and
of course we have codified that revelation with a word
so that we can communicate, Well, here's what we believe,
and here's what that word actually means.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
And what do they read if they don't believe in
the Bible? Do they have a Bible they read? And
do they meet? Because I know they also believe the
church is a pagan institution.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah. Well what they do is they come up with
their own substitute scriptures and those substitute scriptures are either
supposed revelations or new revelations that they make up as
they go along. I mean, that's the problem. You have
to ultimately have an authority, and that authority has to
be credible. They don't, we do.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Yeah. So do they have churches that they meet in it?
Do they not meet at all?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well? No, they do meet. But again, they have a
completely different organizational structure than what you find an authentic
New Testament Christianity. And you have correctly pointed out some
of the major deviations. And again, and this is exactly
what we're called to do. Use the deviations as springboards
or opportunities to communicate truth. Let's go back to the phone lines.
Talk to Joe in Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Hi, Joe, Oh, I got a question that's been kind
of interesting whenever people bring up age of the earth
kind of questions and you talk to them as for example,
Job and in the Genesis story you kind of relate
(21:59):
to metaphors. Well, my question is, well, I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Agree with your characterization of what I do, but you
can go on with your question.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Okay. Anyway, you basically say it's a form of literature,
I'll leave with that. And my question is like this
when you talked about Behemoth the other day, and then
I guess I have a canopy theory how the God
divides the water into three different you know, above the earth,
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below the earth, and above the heavens. Anyway, how do
you explain the physical characteristics in the ex for instance,
Behemoth that talks about it, where to actually find one?
And how do you relate that to a literal or
literary Sure.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, well it's crucial to note the literary progression of Job.
What you find in the thirty plus chapters of his speculations.
God answers Job out of the storm, and in essence,
God asked Job if he would like to try his
hand at running the universe for a while, and then
he gets to after asking about who fathers the drops
of dew? Who can tip over the jars of water
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in heaven? Who gives the horse his strength? Does the
ego sore at your command? Then he gets to Behemoth,
who ranks first among the works of God? Or the
sea dragon? Can you pull in Leviathan with a fish hook?
And that, of course is referring to what is chronicled
in Job forty and forty one. So the literary progression
(23:34):
in Job moves from creation to creatures to the cherub,
who once ranked first in the order of creation, and
in the literary progression of the Bible, the monster is vanquished. So,
interpreting scripture and light to scripture, which is of course
a basic bedrock a biblical interpretation, the literary personification as
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Satan becomes very apparent. Of course, in Genesis he is
presented as an alluring serpent that tempts humanity to fall
into lives of perpetual sin terminated by death. In the
Book of Psalms, he is portrayed as a multi headed
monster opposing the purposes of God. In Isaiah, he's a
(24:18):
coiling serpent emerging out of the primal waters. In Revelation,
he's a red dragon. And by the way, when the
Book of Revelation communicates that Satan is a red dragon,
no one takes that literally because obviously dragons are the
stuff of mythology, not biblical theology. So this is not
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what Satan looks like. It is what Satan is like.
And he uses that depiction because Satan personifies the extremities
of evil. So in some Leviathan and Behemoth are not dinosaurs.
They're personifications that illustrate a metaphysical reality. And as such,
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the mythology the dragon underscores the reality of the devil.
That's what's going on with respect to Behemoth in the
Book of Job. By the way, I've depicted all of
this in a book called the Creation answer Book. As
far as the canopy theory is concerned, the canopy theory
posits that a blanket of water vapor separated the water
under sky from the waters above it until the time
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of the flood. Well, what is the death knell of
this kind of a theory. It is that the canopy
theory is the waters above the skies and the expanse
holding them back are found in the Biblical text after
Noah's flood, just as they were before it. So as
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aptly noted by some Young Earth creationist literature, a blanket
of water vapor prior to the flood would have made
the surface of the earth intolerably hot, So a vapor
canon could not have been a significant source of the floodwaters.
And I think that we need to just look at
that credibly and carefully and dispense with that kind of mythology.
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seeing you tomorrow right here on the Bible anser Man Broadcast.
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